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#Browns are closing in on a deal with Jameis Winston. No Joe Flacco.

No Flacco apparently

While the specific name of Jameis Winston wasn't on my radar, not getting Flacco back was. I guess the Browns couldn't work out a deal, or didn't try to work out a deal after Flacco made it clear coming back and playing for the Browns was his #1 choice.

Tampa signed our first overall QB and we signed theirs.

Meh. Maybe even meh squared.

decent backup if watson gets hurt

I wasn't expecting to get Flacco back, and I wasn't convinced at all with the recent reports of Flacco pushing to come back (I was chalking that up to pre-FA posturing).

Famous Jameis is a strong signing as far getting a guy in here that SHOULD be able to come in and keep the offense rolling, if needed (hopefully not).


What I find interesting about bringing in (and the success he had) Flacco and now Winston when our starter is Watson. I acknowledge that beggars can't be choosers (talented QBs don't fall from trees), but I would think they would try to get a guy that maybe matches Watson's skillset a little better than a Flacco or Jameis.

Wonder what the backstory is on not bringing back Flacco.

I don't know, a backup got the Browns to the playoffs this year. If a backup has to fill in for four or five games his performance may very well make the difference whether your team makes the playoffs or not no matter when that five game stretch happens. If you're speaking in terms of expecting your backup to play through the playoffs and in the SB I agree with you. But not so much during the regular season.

He's going to be 40. I think that's pretty much it. His last game didn't help.

Winston is an interesting choice. We'll see how it goes.

It's an assumption, but I have had a hard time believing Flacco actually wants to come back on the cheap to be a backup.

Probably didn't help that Winston is younger and (I assume) cheaper.

well atleast we have someone who can turn it over like Joe did, but Winston has proven he can sling it, def better than the other two scrubs we had last year

It's a good signing for us. I wouldn't want JW to be our #1 but as a backup it's a good choice. If DW gets hurt JW is more than capable. He's younger more mobile and has a strong arm.

If Flacco goes unsigned or somewhere else for peanuts, then I'll question this move more.

I for one am glad it’s not Flacco. That’s a QB controversy in the making. A couple bad games and people calling for the backup. Used to be annual tradition in Cleveland. Its Much less likely with Winston than after the love affair Cleveland had with Flacco.

That said, if Watson goes down long term or for the season, I selfishly hope Flacco is still sitting on the scrap pile ready to collect comeback player of the year #2. I just don’t want him sitting on the bench and Watson hearing the calls and looking over his shoulder.

This is Watson’s make-break year. This is it. Not that we’ll be done with him after this year but we’ll know with high confidence by this time next year whether we’re solid or we’re screwed. They need to do everything possible to help him be successful. Maybe even getting him some regular massages? 👿 What, too soon?

Zegura, on CBD, intimated that a contributing factor may have been the love fans have for Flacco and the concern that is Watson struggled early, the calls for Flacco to replace Watson would be loud. The Browns wanting to avoid any QB controversy, decided to go in another direction.

The new offense and Flacco's age were also discussed as possible factors.

I would venture there is actually a priority above win at all costs this year, or any year for that matter and that is you can’t trash your biggest investments in the process. As I said in my last post, it’s the franchises highest interest to make sure Watson succeeds, as well as humanly possible. And that means not making him look over his shoulder and hear chants and read articles calling for the backup. Truth is, if Watson flames out, the odds of getting to promised land are beyond remote with a backup. Therefore.. your best chance to “win now” is to nurture Watson.

Also, Flacco is turnover machine. I love the guy and the city sure loves him. But I encourage people to be real. He will keep us in games but eventually he will give it away. Other teams have confidence now that they can jump his passes and force errors and they’re not wrong. Maybe we get further with him than another backup but the big prize ain’t happening either way. Don’t piss in your own well trying to win consolation prizes.

Flacco was great story- last year.....how'd Texans do second time against Flacco---- I dislike Winslow pickup- his character is less than stellar- free King Crab Legs while at FSU and dirty mouth-- I'd pass on him EVERY time-- Watson is the man, we sink or swim with him.....GO Browns!!!!

Well if the goal was to find a QB bad enough to ensure the fans never want to see him play, regardless of how crappy Watson is, then Winston was a home run.

Neither of these guys could hold Joe Flacco's jock strap.

I've read a handful of places that Winston has grown up considerably after having eaten some humble pie after his stint with the Bucs.

Pretty much sums up my feelings... not a fan of Jamies... have really never liked him much... hope he never sees the field...

Would rather have Flacco as back up

It could have been a 2 way deal. Not to mention is it isn't a good situation that your back-up QB is a fan favorite, but we don't need to get in to those dynamics.

I like Winston. I think he is a perfect choice to be the back-up.

Cheap.

10yr...I find it absolutely NUTS, that those running this franchise would invest in losing by signing a QB as Watson's backup, who has done next to nothing on the football field over the last 4 seasons.


The last season that Winston played as a starter (2019), he threw 30 interceptions and had 12 fumbles...and you call Flacco a turnover machine...

This is entirely about the fact that you have to go cheap when you're paying Watson $230M. You also can't bench him, regardless of how bad he's playing, with that salary so you CAN'T have a backup worth a damn (heaven forbid fans hurt his precious ego, he might need to unwind and get another massage).

Nothing about this has anything to do with winning. If it was, we'd have signed Flacco and benched Watson's sorry ass. Same old Browns.

I think you're overlooking 2021. His stats (and record, 5-2) were pretty good (as shown in the tweet Memphis linked.) The Saints leading receiver that season was Marquez Callaway (I.e, it was an ...underwhelming... group.) Thomas missed that entire season. Winston was starting before getting injured on one of those hip drop/"horse collar" tackles from behind.

Not too soon. Just a llittle sick, twisted and tasteless.

Compared to Sam Darnold and his one year, $10MM doozy.

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I think you're overlooking 2021. His stats (and record, 5-2) were pretty good (as shown in the tweet Memphis linked.) The Saints leading receiver that season was Marquez Callaway (I.e, it was an ...underwhelming... group.) Thomas missed that entire season. Winston was starting before getting injured on one of those hip drop/"horse collar" tackles from behind.[/quote]


Bull...I just posted a summary of Winston's NFL career and it is obvious that his ability to remain healthy and on the field has been a major challenge for him...especially the last 4 seasons.

Winston's durability has to be a concern for the Browns, though I doubt they would ever acknowledge it.

Combine that with the Browns strength and conditioning staff, and we are in big trouble.

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Joe Flacco’s Reason For Not Resigning With The Cleveland Browns Is Stunning

Daniel FisherBy Daniel FisherMarch 13, 2024
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Many Cleveland Browns fans were hit with the reality on Tuesday that Joe Flacco will not be back on the team after they signed New Orleans Saints backup quarterback Jameis Winston.

All Cleveland Browns Fans loved Joe Flacco


Flacco led the Cleveland Browns to the playoffs after starting quarterback Deshaun Watson was lost for the season in November with an injury. One time, Flacco was one of Brown’s biggest rivals, being the starting quarterback with the Baltimore Ravens, but now he is the hero they never saw coming.

Browns fans wanted Flacco to return to the team as a backup, and some even wanted him to start since they weren’t fans of Watson, but that would never have been possible unless Watson wasn’t ready to start the season because of his injured shoulder

The Cleveland Browns made Flacco’s decision very easy if he wanted to return to Cleveland because they never even offered him a contract.

Flacco Never Saw A Deal

According to Joe Flacco’s agent, Joe Linta, the Browns never offered Flacco a contract. It seemed like the Browns had no interest in bringing back the 39-year-old quarterback to any deal, and Winston was their number one guy to be their backup quarterback this season.


The reality is that Flacco is 39, and even though he played well for the Browns in the second half of last year’s season, there was still a reason he was sitting on his couch so late into the season.

Sadly, Flacco’s run had to end in a playoff loss against the Houston Texans, where he threw back-to-back pick-sixes. Still, every Browns fan is very grateful he was able to step in at a time when many people were losing hope when injury after injury kept happening for the team.