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The only things that seem clear and obvious to you are things that aren't clear and obvious. Who I vote for is important. Voting your conscience is always important. As a matter of fact having been raised by a former Master Sergeant it was drilled into my head the importance of voting. How many people had died to preserve and protect that right for me and all of us. That is was my patriotic duty to vote. So it not only matters that I vote but who I vote for.

The fact that it has no bearing on who wins the election is a totally different matter. Hopefully that helps clear up any confusion you may have had.

I'm not going to chase after your follies all day. You asked a basic question and I answered it. This isn't a game of 20 questions. At some point one would think people had outgrow that game. If there are specific questions from your link you would like answered, post them.

You have been responding all day. Your characterization of my posts as follies is another example of gaslighting.


As usual, you took one thing from a post out of context and pretended it was everything to address. The question was intended to be rhetorical with the link that followed providing a different framework for looking at the question. As you never looked at the link, you missed my intent. In your rush to contradict me, you didn't receive the message I was sending. Unfortunately, communication isn't a one way process. I can't make you participate.


I don't know. Games can be fun. Would you answer all the questions if we were playing 20 questions?

The "games" you like to play on the forums are the opposite of fun. I wish you would outgrow those.


The whole article goes together. Individual questions would lack the associated context. I would like your (and others') feedback on the entirety. I know you tend to cherry pick individual things and ignore the rest, but could you try reading everything before jumping to a conclusion?

edit: Re-link for ease of access: https://www.lowimpact.org/categories/the-democracy-problem

No. You are mistaken.

In the primary, I did not vote for trump.

In the general, I DID vote for Trump because he wasn't Hillary.

But, what's it matter anyway?

nothing, it was just a memory that got brought up since Bull is....well, now he's saying he doesnt vote ballot candidates, so now he just writes everyone's name in?

https://civileats.com/2024/03/26/in...st-powerful-families-in-the-food-system/


Interesting read. Formatting doesn't translate well, so went with just the excerpt.

It does matter who we vote for. I don't care that you somehow think anything you posted would change that. Your question was answered. Just because it didn't focus on your reasoning doesn't matter.

Yep…proving the point that your vote matters more than ever before.

Except, in a lot of ways, it doesn't because the people you vote for aren't actually the ones making the decisions. Or perhaps they are only allowed to make certain decisions within a limited span. Non-elected officials set things like interest rates. Elected officials are funded by corporate interests and are constrained by those interested parties desires if they want to be re-elected.

The article explains/explores these ideas a lot better than I'm going to be able to while pecking at my phone.

There are certainly things you can point to that may not change or make a huge difference according to who you vote for. There are also many things people can point to that shows there's a vast difference in who you vote for. Putting some things in a vacuum while failing to address the other things only paints a portion of the picture.

Thanks for coming around to what I've been saying for awhile.

It wasn't me suggesting people ignore everything about your question except the the topics covered in your link.

No, but it was you ignoring everything in the link and addressing the question in a vacuum.

Actually quite the opposite. Looking at something in a vacuum is what happens when you only look at specific things while ignoring everything else. Looking at something in its totality is the opposite of looking at things in a vacuum.

How does one look at the totality while ignoring things?

Definitely feels like some tail wagging the 'dawg logic.

You pointed out specific things with which your question was based on. Your assertion was that we look at the topics you wished to use while ignoring others. Which is why I and Spiral both answered, yes it matters who you vote for and your claim was that we didn't look at the specific topics in the link you posted. That's because we were addressing the question in its totality. At this point the only logical explanation I can come up with for all of your double talk is that you are purposefully being obtuse.

Oh no! Not again!

Actually I did but I expect this type of behavior from the trump squad. The whole birds of a feather thing.

What's a "Trump Squad"?

Anyone that doesn't agree with you??

What "others" did I want you to ignore?

I wanted you not to ignore things. How can you address a totality while ignoring aspects of the question and its context?

You not being able to come up with a logical explanation has no bearing on anything outside of you. I'll refrain from jumping to conclusions about your mental capabilities.

Do you care to expand on this that you said earlier?:

Who doesn't actually agree with me here? You nor Memphis actually stated anything about that. What part about the actual topic is it that you disagree with?

If I asked you does it matter who you vote for would you isolate that into certain topics or look at everything in considering your answer to that question?

The only thing a couple of you have done is come in and take a cheap shot without addressing the topic at all. So I have no idea whether you do or don't agree with me nor the reasoning of why. I mean if you're going to come here and step in it, step all the way into it.

From you reaction and your words everything that wasn't covered in your link.


I'll certainly comment on a couple of them. Campaign financing. They all want the big money corporate donors. The influence corporations have over domestic policies. That money gets rewarded.

We'll try color by numbers:





What. makes. them. the. "Trump Squad"???

None of you are voting for Biden are you?

Is that any of your business?

And how does that pertain to the discussion?

What discussion? Since when does someone staring off with a personal bard constitute a discussion? I gave what I got and of course you chose to confront the respondent. Typical.

You've asked 18 questions and given no answers.

AKA... "Tuesday".

I answered your question. Neither you nor Memphis addressed any part of the topic or discussion. Instead you are now attempting to make that a discussion. I actually invited you to join in the actual topic of the discussion which you refused to do. So no, averting the topic by trying to turn the persona barbs into a discussion isn't going to work. So let's try this again if you actually wish to join the discussion....

Let me make it as clear as possible for those who have a comprehension problem. It was nothing more than a barb in retaliation to a previous barb. It seems you are having a problem understanding that.

And still nothing that addresses the actual discussion at the time.

Well there is a way to fix this. I mean, if you REALLY want your vote to count.. If you really mean it. There is a way.

Dump the elector college. Don't need it.

Our voting systems are so damn good Everybody can make a difference now. (regardless of what the liars and other MAGA sacks of crap keep yelling about like little whiny babies) Putting electors in the mix just gives those with "Misdeeds in mind", another opportunity to screw with the WILL OF THE PEOPLE!

...our systems are so damn good... that Trump got elected....


You didn't read the article, either, did you? I'm not a huge fan of the electoral college, but I'm not sure how you got there. I don't think getting rid of it would solve the problems mentioned in the article.

The "WILL OF THE PEOPLE," to me, would require better options on the ballot. The people that have been on there have definitely been against my will.

Unfortunately, Trump was such a goblin (...gremlin? ...ogre?) that the "will of the people" will support apparently literally anyone else.

The trump apologists here. “The trump squad”

“The "WILL OF THE PEOPLE," to me, would require better options on the ballot. The people that have been on there have definitely been against my will. “



All the more reason that makes your vote count. “We the people” select who’s on the ballot by voting in the primaries.

Yes, one tenth of one percent higher than expected.

On tenth? Time to start sacrificing children in the volcanos.

No. You're missing the "fun with math" ideology of Pit's post. Up one tenth means up 4 tenths, but we already expected it to be up 3 tenths. It would be like if Buckeyes were favored by 21, beat the Hoosiers 24-0, and their fans saying "we only really lost by three"

And 4 tenths is on top of the outrageous increase in prices (in case you live in a cave), still going up, and still higher than anytime since 1984.

NOT that any of that matters.

So despite all of your rhetoric, it increased a total of one tenth of one percent above expectations. Because no matter how much to twist it that's what I said.