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bonefish #2066028 04/18/24 10:22 AM
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The Browns have brought two TE's for visits.

One is JA'Tavion Sanders. PFF has him as a top fifty prospect.

BOTTOM LINE FROM PFF'S 2024 NFL DRAFT GUIDE
Sanders is a Tier 1 athlete for the tight end position. He is still mastering the nuances of tight end play, and he needs more of a mean streak consistently as a blocker.

However, even with those concerns, what he brings to the table as a vertical threat is worth a top-50 pick.

I could see the Browns drafting a TE.

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2024-nfl-draft-scouting-report-texas-te-jatavion-sanders

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I like this dude. He looks good. Very similar to Njoku.


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7 days to go. Even with the lack of first rounders, I still get more amped up for the Draft than Christmas.
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The draft is fun because every team views the players differently. Each team has different needs and are in a different state of development.

There are always surprises. The trades that go down can turn the whole thing on a different path.

I love the draft.

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I agree wholeheartedly. We have been doing better in the 2nd and 3rd rounds, most of the time better than we've done in the 1st round. I think we'll draft a couple of good solid players. I have faith in AB.

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3rd Rd draft picks under Berry:

Jordan Elliott & Jacob Phillips

Anthony Schwartz

Martin Emerson & Alex Wright & David Bell

Cedric Tillman & Siaki Ika


2nd Rd draft picks under Berry:

Grant Delpit

JOK

N/A

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Berry's drafts have been largely so-so. Elliott and Schwartz are gone and were given waaaaaay too much rope for their production. Bell looks to have been over-drafted and we may move on from Ika after (1) very non-de script season (if they draft another DT rather early). More bothersome to me is the apparent "smarter than everyone else" drafting of guys like Schwartz and Ika so early when better prospects were available.

When you don't have a #1 pick for (3) straight years you shouldn't be getting cute with your Day 2 picks like that.

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...darn you PFF. Posting top 10 lists that include next year's prospects. (Link)

How much influence do you all think future draft classes play on what happens with the current one?

Both these guys look good to me, and we might actually have a 1st round pick next draft. ...Yes, I'm a draft degenerate.





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https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/arti...end_up_with_the_browns/s1_17313_40256329

I believe in Franklin and I would rather have him than Worthy.

We need a guy like him because we do not have a guy like him on the roster. This guy can track the ball deep and he is precise in his routes. I know he is slim but that does mean much because he is not the type of receiver who will be taking hard shots.

He has the unique ability to separate with his long stride. He is really fluid. When he runs his routes he knows how to set guys up like Cooper does.

I think he is a really good fit for the offense that the Browns want to run.

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I want the team to continue to be feared in the run game. My mid-round RB target is Issac Guerrendo, Louisville. 6' 225lbs, 4.3 combine 40. Turned heads at the combine. He has skills to run power, catch the ball, pass protect, and return kicks. Might have to get to round 4 to draft him. Productive out of shotgun.


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I like him guard.

When I watch RB's I have to hit mute. I look for vision, balance, quickness, power, and speed in that order.

Guerendo measures up well.

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This a good breakdown of the 30 players the Browns have brought in for a visit.

https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland...ker-prospects-updated-4-15-24-230485548/

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Thanks for an interesting read. Some scary looking gambles on the list for draft days. Fingers crossed!


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Hi Mac excellent point
Dorsey’s draft
Chubb probably hof
Teller all pro
Landry all pro
Berry no all pros in 4 years.

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LOL - Dorsey did not draft Teller or Landry - he traded for them.

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I think the prevailing thought is that when a FO uses draft picks in making trades it's actually the use of draft assets. By trading draft assets it shows a good investment in the draft capital. But I don't think either of those compare to trading a fifth round pick to get Cooper.


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And then easily ignored by many (not saying you) is that Dorsey started with the most draft capital in the history of the NFL. Aaaand the most cap space in the history of the NFL.


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Those are most certainly huge factors that should be included in the equation.


Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.

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Good ole Doofus Dorsey.
Good enough person I suppose, but a missing link no doubt.


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Being serious for just a minute, I think Dorsey was a good GM. He brought a lot of talent onto the roster that's still here... but seeing what we have today, it takes more than just an all-star coach or GM. Both have to be good and both have to be on the same page and rowing in the same direction.

Dorsey yielded us Freddie Kitchens and only listened to himself in terms of roster-building. Was antagonistic even, to others in the building that thought differently. Through the lens of what's been built these past few years, Dorsey's flaws are suddenly VERY clear.


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If true, perhaps for a WR if Tee Higgins has one foot out the door.


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I was just reminded by a friend that the Draft is tomorrow. I have to admit that I don't know what picks we have, except that we definitely don't have a 1st, or even what we view as team needs. WR? RB? DT? DE? LB?

It's crazy; I haven't felt this disconnected from the team since 2001. Literally.

Still, it's the Draft and as such my interest is turning toward it and I will tune in even though I will have absolutely no clue whatsoever about who we pick or what they can do for us.


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I still keep up to some extent. i want to see what our division rivals do. I have a very close friend that is a Lions fan so I keep up with that. Here are our picks....

Round 2: No. 54
Round 3: No. 85
Round 5: No. 156 (from PHI through AZ)
Round 6: No. 206
Round 7: No. 227 (from TEN)
Round 7: No. 243

Ravens picks

Round 1: No. 30
Round 2: No. 62
Round 3: No. 93
Round 4: No. 113 (from DEN through NYJ)
Round 4: No. 130
Round 5: No. 165
Round 6: No. 218 (Compensatory - from NYJ)
Round 7: No. 228 (from NYJ)
Round 7: No. 250

Steelers picks

Round 1: No. 20
Round 2: No. 51
Round 3: No. 84
Round 3: No. 98 (Compensatory - from PHI)
Round 4: No. 119
Round 6: No. 178 (from AZ through CAR)
Round 6: No. 195

Bengals picks

Round 1: No. 18
Round 2: No. 49
Round 3: No. 80
Round 3: No 97 (Compensatory)
Round 4: No. 115
Round 5: No. 149
Round 6: No. 194
Round 6: No. 214 (Compensatory)
Round 7: No. 224 (from AZ through HOU)
Round 7: No. 237

The Bengals and the Steelers both have 2 picks before the Browns are even on the board. So yeah, it's a little difficult to get too excited about the draft if you're a "Browns fan only". As for myself I watch a lot of games and have more than a few teams I like so it is a little more interesting for me.

My only problem is trying to figure out who we may pick at #54. Berry has shored up most of the glaring holes which is a good thing. But that does make it harder to predict which direction he will go from a position standpoint and no matter what people say at #54 people really have no idea who will be left on the board.

More power to the people that think that's a worthwhile path to walk down but as for myself I'm going to wait until they pick and then try to evaluate the players after they're selected. So yeah, without a first round pick it takes an edge off the intensity of the draft for me.


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Shoulder surgery tomorrow ....... I'll probably be in a fog for day 1 of the draft tomorrow. crazy


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Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
If true, perhaps for a WR if Tee Higgins has one foot out the door.

Could the Bengals move up by trading Higgins and picks to get one of the top three receivers?

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That is hysterical.

I remember watching the first game of the season with Cody starting. I was with my son when we were on a fishing trip in BC.

I looked at him and said the Browns may not win a single game. This is one of the worst teams I have ever seen.

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Originally Posted by PrplPplEater
I was just reminded by a friend that the Draft is tomorrow. I have to admit that I don't know what picks we have, except that we definitely don't have a 1st, or even what we view as team needs. WR? RB? DT? DE? LB?

It's crazy; I haven't felt this disconnected from the team since 2001. Literally.

Still, it's the Draft and as such my interest is turning toward it and I will tune in even though I will have absolutely no clue whatsoever about who we pick or what they can do for us.

prp...I've had similar feelings about the Browns 2024 draft...it's almost like.."what's the use".. there is nothing about this Browns draft that excites me..no feeling like there is the one player in this draft that the Browns need to help push them over the top..someone to improve the team's chances of making the playoffs or possibly winning a Super Bowl.

It seems that all I can do is reflect on the mistakes the franchise has made that put us in the present position. It sure would help if just one of the plans worked out...maybe Watson's shoulder will heal and and Watson will have a career year this season, leading the Browns to the playoffs and a chance to play in the next Super Bowl.

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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
I have a very close friend that is a Lions fan

Apparently you keep good company....


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Y-town, good luck with the surgery! But you may need the painkillers for the SECOND day of the draft. Maybe they will give you little extra if you make it known you are die-hard Browns rooter. Fingers crossed,


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It's tough to believe anything that clown says.


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That face.... rofl


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Originally Posted by Hammer
LOL - Dorsey did not draft Teller or Landry - he traded for them.

Yep, you can't just list the successes. Dorsey had the 1st and 4th pick of that draft, not to mention the 33 and 35 in round2. The #1 overall QB did not make his second contract and he is on his 4th team. Chubb is a stud, Ward a pro bowler at CB. The guy he picked before Chubb (Corbett) was traded mid-season for a 5th round draft pick.

Also, the HC you hired wouldn't play Chubb. Dorsey had to trade Carlos Hyde, the starter, to force Hue to play him.

Yes, Berry has had no pro bowlers, but he also hasn't had a draft with 4 of the first 35.

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Originally Posted by jacksondawg
Hi Mac excellent point
Dorsey’s draft
Chubb probably hof
Teller all pro
Landry all pro
Berry no all pros in 4 years.

Something is missing. Oh wait, I know, The first overall picks in round and 2 that year. Also, why not list Ward, he has been very good.

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Originally Posted by oobernoober
Being serious for just a minute, I think Dorsey was a good GM. He brought a lot of talent onto the roster that's still here... but seeing what we have today, it takes more than just an all-star coach or GM. Both have to be good and both have to be on the same page and rowing in the same direction.

Dorsey yielded us Freddie Kitchens and only listened to himself in terms of roster-building. Was antagonistic even, to others in the building that thought differently. Through the lens of what's been built these past few years, Dorsey's flaws are suddenly VERY clear.

I thought things just weren't right with his leadership and after he was fired, I researched info as to why he was let go at KC. Confirmed what I was thinking.

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Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie

If true, perhaps for a WR if Tee Higgins has one foot out the door.

Why would a team, searching for a WR, trade for Higgins, who is not signed and asked to be traded? Bengal's fans on their MB thinking they can get a mid-high 1st round pick for a 1 year wr like Higgins,

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j/c...


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That's weird.


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j/c...


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