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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Thanks for addressing the question. rofl

But then I'm not surprised by that.

I addressed the question four times.

This is your sidestep around admitting you were wrong.

In the words of Vers, take a hike.


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So you are then saying fake documents were not planted? If they were placed in the photos by the FBI and the photos were taken by the FBI and the documents were fake, your assertion is the FBI planted fake documents. Here is what you posted.....

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I said all the documents that say "Secret" and "Top Secret" are fake.

So who other than the FBI are you saying displayed those documents and took those photos?

Blaming me for what you posted doesn't change it.


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It is way beyond anything you have posted.

His record is public from his actions, recordings, inaction, incompetence, and criminality.

His disgusting view of women. His making fun of disabled people. His comments to gold star families. His stated view that those who have served as "suckers."
Not wanting to take photos with disabled veterans. The fact that every person he has appointed want nothing to do with him now.

The fact that all those listed in this thread who played their parts for him are now convicted criminals.

What the hell is wrong with you?

How can you continue to make excuses for all trump has done wrong?

How blind to the truth can you be?

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Jeez... talk about triggered.

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Crickets about a crime? lol Whatever dude. Explain the crime so we all know. Please also explain how it was resurrected from an expired statute into 34 felonies that this particular court would then have no business prosecuting.

You keep asking this, and it keeps getting answered. You're doing one of things you harp on Pit for.
My understanding is that the campaign finance angle to this whole situation is what gave the prosecutor the ability to resurrect an old crime. To your point, I would agree that this is a (ahem) creative method of getting the case in court, but I argue that when you take a step back I really don't understand the hand-wringing over this. It reeks of handwaving away clear examples of the man's obvious deficiencies as a presidential candidate. So while his supporters want to argue legal minutiae, I say that if he didn't commit the crime then we wouldn't be having this argument at all. And that's what had me bring up Hillary. She didn't get punished as much as she should have (and neither will Trump), but the whole "we are re-opening the investigation because we found more of her emails on Anthony Weiner's laptop" comedy was the final nail in the coffin of her campaign... and while she was ultimately cleared, she lost the election. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes... I see that phrase being just as applicable now as it was then.

Garland was the one that said the word 'conspiracy', but the only one screaming was Gaetz. That guys' shtick is consistent and transparent. He's a lapdog for Trump, and he's trying to distract from the (many) wrongs that are now biting his leash-holder in the butt. He's trying to convince us he's all worked up over DOJ meetings while he ignores boxes of 'Top Secret' documents being paraded around to any and all visitors are Mar a Lago around the time the son-in-law got a windfall of money from the Saudis. Gaetz act is just that... and as a poster that I generally respect and (to a certain extent) agree with I do find it grating when a video of this slimeball gets posted as if it's worthy of attention.


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You and your boys sound, well, adolescent, when you keep responding to every post by saying I'm triggered.

Have you read any of Bone's posts lately. That's #triggered. Nothing I said in our exchange points to me being triggered. Your response points to you #melting.


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My posts?

When a fish swallows the hook nothing can be done.

That is where you are. Your denials are beyond reason.

Waste of time responding to you any further.

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Originally Posted by bonefish
Waste of time responding to you any further.

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I had no idea you danced like that at church.


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You should see me at the YMCA.


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I'm not that kind of guy. Not that there's anything wrong with that.


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I see MAGA is in full on Whaa Whaa mode. Their dumbass leader stepped in 4 big piles of his own crap, and MAGA can’t find a way to swallow that pill. I say, “Let ‘em gag on it”.

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MAGA!
MAGA!
MAGA!

Fascist, fascist, fascist!

Trump, Trump, Trump!

Amateur hour starts early today. The dupe got out of bed before 6pm!


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lol unhinged… fits you well.


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You’re posts are becoming more and more inane displays of pure ignorance. They said brains not trains that day you were built.

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You're posteses are less and less uneditable. I'll give you're an A for effort though.


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MAGA Marching Orders Today: Go forth and be WickDeeds.

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The very essence of unhinged. His Royal Highness is convicted of a felony and …..

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You two make a great couple!


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Please explain how this was "the best border deal in DECADES".

Geez, it's been explained a million times.

The fact that it was a Bi Partisan bill should tell you something. But IDIOT trump didn't want it done. he wanted trouble on the border because he thinks that will help him get elected.

Cool. Explain it one more time without using the word "bipartisan" since that has been the single, solitary battlecry by your ilk. "It must all be good since there was one republican involved!"

Try harder Daman, I mean, it's the best in decades, there has got to be more than one word to explain it.

I'll wait.

*Bump*

I see you're online Daman, thought maybe you missed the opportunity to tell us why this was "the best border deal in DECADES"?

Whatchu got?


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(video is in the tweet)

oh boy...


Trump might get out of this because of Thomas Massie...


Garland just said Jack Smith wasn't nominated by a POTUS or confirmed by the Senate and his special council statute wasn't passed.


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The convicted felon you support is not getting out of anything. Karma my boy. Karma.


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Beauty queen who confessed married Trump kissed her now admits he went further than that

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The new book Apprentice in Wonderland by Ramin Setoodeh is set to be published later this month, but shocking excerpts are already being released.

Among the details from former "Apprentice" winner Randall Pinkett is that the married Donald Trump wouldn't stop talking about how much he wanted to have sex with another contestant, Jennifer Murphy, The Nation reported.



Season 4 began on Sept. 22, 2005, eight months to the day that Trump married his third wife, Melania, and six months before she gave birth to their son.

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Trump filmed the infamous "Access Hollywood" interview prior to the season's start. Trump was appearing as a guest star in an episode of "Days of Our Lives" at the time.

Murphy was a 26-year-old beauty queen at the time of the taping, and she spoke out about Trump's affection for her.

The new book reveals that Trump did more than give her the "little kiss" she previously talked about.

When she first met Trump, she felt that he was treating her like a protégée.

“I think he looked at me in a way like he does his daughter,” Murphy told the book's author. “But also, I did think he had the hots for me a bit.”



While she previously spoke about the "little kiss," now she says Trump also "invited her to his room at the Beverly Hills Hotel. She declined the invitation because he was married to his current wife, Melania," The Nation wrote.

“I have a conscience,” Murphy explained to Setoodeh, implying that the invitation was for sex. “I have integrity. I made up a reason I was busy."

However, Murphy's kiss with Trump happened when he was married.

A week after the infamous "Access Hollywood" tape was released, Murphy went on CNN to say that Trump kissed her without asking and she loved it.

Erin Burnett asked whether the kiss happened at Trump Tower, and Murphy attacked the media, saying it bothers her that she confessed, "I mentioned once, yes, he kissed me on the lips, but that's all they want to focus on. It was a small kiss. It was after he had fired me on The Apprentice."



She revealed in the interview that despite her string of losses on the show, Trump still wanted to hire her in his office.

"He called me the next day and said, 'I still want to give you an opportunity to work with me. I was very impressed with you," she said. "So, after several meetings and getting to know him more, he walked me to the elevator at one point and he did reach in and give me a little kiss. And I was a little surprised, but I wasn't offended. And I could have turned away..."

She went on to attack the media, saying that she gave long interviews where she sang Trump's praises, but after the Access Hollywood tape, all reporters wanted to know about was whether he kissed her.

Trump said in the hot-mic moment with "Access Hollywood" that he couldn't control himself and he would grab women and kiss them.

"And if you're a celebrity, they let you do it!" he bragged at the time.


It has been only a few weeks since actress and director Stormy Daniels described the moment that she had with Trump in a hotel room after he similarly asked her to "dinner" to talk about her appearance on The Apprentice.

She testified under oath in Trump's New York criminal trial that after using the bathroom, she came out to find Trump in his underwear, posing on the bed.

“I thought we were getting somewhere, we were talking, and I thought you were serious about what you wanted. If you ever want to get out of that trailer park," Trump told her, according to the testimony.

Still, Murphy told the author that she never considered Trump a predator.

“I think, if anything, he likes beautiful women too much—if that’s a flaw," she said.

She remained friends with Trump, she said, and when she got married, he gave her a discount so she could have the wedding at one of his properties.


Ironically, Trump joined her when she filmed a segment about her wedding for "Access Hollywood."

During the filming, Trump pulled her away and asked her why she was marrying the fiancé.

“He put his arm around me,” Murphy described to Setoodeh. “It was off camera. I think he smacked my butt a little. I was like, ‘Goodness gracious!’"

The book will be released on June 18, and Raw Story will have full coverage.


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All these women trump forced himself on are coming forward once again. Sounds like he’s a sexual predator to me.


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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/ju...-bannon-begin-prison-sentence-rcna155209


June 6, 2024, 11:15 AM EDT / Updated June 6, 2024, 12:38 PM EDT
By Ryan J. Reilly and Victoria Ebner
WASHINGTON — A federal judge on Thursday ordered former Trump adviser Steve Bannon to report to prison on July 1 to begin a four-month prison sentence for defying subpoenas from the Jan. 6 Committee after a higher court rejected his appeal.

Bannon was found guilty on two counts of contempt of Congress in July 2022 for defying the committee’s subpoenas, but his sentence had been put on hold while he appealed the case. U.S. District Judge Carl said Thursday he did not believe that the “original basis” for his stay of the imposition of Bannon's sentence existed any longer after an appeals court upheld Bannon's conviction. Bannon could still appeal Nichol’s ruling that he must report to prison.

Bannon was sentenced more than a year and a half ago, in October 2022, to four months behind bars, the same sentence currently being served by former Trump adviser Peter Navarro, who also refused to comply with a Jan. 6 Committee subpoena.

“The defendant chose allegiance to Donald Trump over compliance with the law," Assistant U.S. Attorney Molly Gaston, who now serves on special counsel Jack Smith's team, told jurors during closing arguments in 2022.

Bannon's sentence was put on hold pending appeal, and his lawyers made their case to a three-judge federal appeals court panel in November. The appeals court upheld Bannon's conviction in May, and federal prosecutors soon filed a motion asking Nichols to order Bannon to report to prison. Federal prosecutors told Nichols there was "no legal basis" for the continued stay of the sentence after the federal appeals court rejected the appeal.

Bannon’s lawyers argued that the sentence should be stayed until they appeal it to the full appeals court and the Supreme Court. Any delay, of course, would benefit Bannon if Trump is elected president in November and decides — just as he did on the last day of his presidency on Jan. 20, 2021 — to pardon Bannon on federal criminal charges.

Bannon smiled as he went through security to enter the courthouse Thursday morning. A person nearby said “Trump ‘24!” to him and Bannon smiled and shook his hand.

Following the judge’s decision, he looked calm and stayed smiling. Bannon's lawyer, David Schoen, sprung into action, becoming much more passionate than he’d been during the rest of the hearing.

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Judge Nichols told him: “One thing you have to learn as a lawyer is that when the judge has made his decision, you don’t stand up and start yelling,” adding through Schoen’s protests: “I’ve had enough.”

“I’m not yelling,” Schoen retorted, saying he was “passionate.”

“You’re sending a man to prison who thought he was complying with the law, we don’t do that in my system,” Schoen said, calling the decision “contrary to our system of justice.”

“I think you should sit down,” Nichols responded.

Nichols, a Trump appointee, has overseen a number of Jan. 6 cases. He's the judge who rejected the government's use of an obstruction of an official proceeding charge, which has been used against hundreds of Jan. 6 defendants, as well as Trump himself. That case ultimately bubbled up to the Supreme Court, which heard oral arguments on the use of the statute in April. On Wednesday, Nichols sentenced a Jan. 6 defendant who assaulted law enforcement officers with bear spray — and who was caught thanks to a sting operation that a woman launched on the dating app Bumble — to more than six years in federal prison.

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Originally Posted by FATE
And as far as Gaetz' questions you all are so triggered by...

This is what I responded to. If you don't like the word, don't use it yourself.

I get that you've got a handful of people coming at you, but there's one person triggered in this convo between you and me... and it ain't me.


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And as far as Gaetz' questions you all are so triggered by...

This is what I responded to. If you don't like the word, don't use it yourself.

I get that you've got a handful of people coming at you, but there's one person triggered in this convo between you and me... and it ain't me.

Fair enough. I apologize.

Although I'm definitely not triggered by Garland looking like a fool while he lies through his teeth or refuses to answer questions.


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And you have just now decided to be offended by what you claim are lies? Odd timing.


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You know how the old song goes.... "Cry Me a River"

#triggered

You've sat back and watched trump lie since at least 2015 and never said a word. Now suddenly your claim of someone lying seems to be an issue for you. I know someone pointing out how selective and bias that is bothers you. But that's not an issue I care about.


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Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
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I encourage everyone to watch the entire thing (knowing many here don't have the bandwidth) but 1:27:00 starts the Trump legal decision.

Chris Cuomo vs Dave Smith Debate: COVID 19, Mandates & Trump's Guilty Verdict

That was really, really good. The entire thing. The COVID discussion had Dave being maybe a little more douchey than he needed to be, but he's obviously very passionate about it... and I'm definitely in his corner with most of what was discussed. A lot happening on with the COVID front that people aren't really talking about (and most people here at DT aren't really interested in discussing).

As far as the things brought to light during the Trump discussion, I think it's really hard to be emotionally honest with yourself and not have an opinion that lies somewhere in the middle of both of these guys. Either that, or you're part of the same fringe you keep complaining about but think your side can do no / say no wrong. And of the two discussing it, neither supports or even likes Trump.

Nice to see two (three, really) intelligent people hash things out without being idiots.

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Please explain how this was "the best border deal in DECADES".

Geez, it's been explained a million times.

The fact that it was a Bi Partisan bill should tell you something. But IDIOT trump didn't want it done. he wanted trouble on the border because he thinks that will help him get elected.

Cool. Explain it one more time without using the word "bipartisan" since that has been the single, solitary battlecry by your ilk. "It must all be good since there was one republican involved!"

Try harder Daman, I mean, it's the best in decades, there has got to be more than one word to explain it.

I'll wait.

*Bump*

I see you're online Daman, thought maybe you missed the opportunity to tell us why this was "the best border deal in DECADES"?

Whatchu got?

You know you do this all the time. It may say I'm on line, but that doesn't mean I'm sitting in front of a computer. I never log out.,

Some of us have lives away from the Browns board, so come up off the silly comments like " I see you are on line"!



Like I said, it's been explained a million times to people that don't have a clue and I see no reason to explain it again.


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You had just posted in another thread. I'm assuming you were "online" for that event. Although I've debated the fact that you may be AI a few times.


Good answer. Exactly what I was expecting. No answer at all, but others don't have a clue. crazy


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Well for starters it the only bi partisan deal in decades. Bi partisan = good


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Well for starters it the only bi partisan deal in decades. Bi partisan = good

Not if the far right Freedumb Caucus doesn't like it.


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Why is it the best border deal in decades?

"Bi partisan!"


Yeah, I get that but what makes it a good deal?

"Bi partisan!"


Cool, cool, cool... But what does this deal do to secure the border??

"Bi partisan!"


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Good lord... 3 hours!?

I'm going to have to break this up into chunks and listen over multiple days/weeks


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Here is a synopsis of the final senate bill as negotiated by Lankford and others. And this is from Lankford's website. Read and see if it is better than status quo.


BORDER SECURITY
POLICY PROPOSAL
The new border security authorities will put powerful new tools in the border security toolbox of any
administration willing to secure the border. It will also set real limits on the current administration to
stop the abuse of parole and prevent our nation from ever having 10,000 people a day crossing
illegally or a record month like December 2023 again.

ENDS PAROLE CATCH-AND-RELEASE FIASCO AT THE BORDER
Ends Biden’s use of catch-and-release through the CBP One app to hand out work permits for free along the
southwest border.
The definition of humanitarian parole is clarified to stop the daily flagrant abuse of the authority at the border.
This change alone will stop over half-a-million border crossings every year.
MANDATES A COMPLETE SHUTDOWN OF THE BORDER
Creates a new mandatory Border Emergency Authority that will protect our nation from having another
month like September, October,November or December 2023, when more than 10,000 people a day
crossed the southern border.
The new Border Emergency Authority is even stronger than the Title 42Authority used during the Trump
Administration because it also includes new legal consequences for anyone who tries to return after
deported.
No more massive caravans of migrants flowing over the border day after day.
Allows law enforcement in America to control the border, not the criminal cartels in Mexico.
Changes the default when the border is overrun from releasing everyone into the country to deporting
everyone out of the country. When the average number of crossings exceeds 5,000 people a week (which it
has every week but one in the past four months) everyone crossing illegally everyday is rapidly deported out
of the country without an asylum screening. In the past four months almost a million people have crossed our
border. If this law had been in place four months ago, all of them would have been deported out of the country,
rather than released into the country.
When the border closes, it stays closed and everyone is deported every day until the number of people
crossing illegally drops. Once the number of encounters drop, the border continues to stay closed for up to
an additional two weeks to continue to drive the numbers down; It closes the border when we exceed our
capacity to detain and deport so no one is released into the US because of the crowd.

THE CURRENT SYSTEM: CATCH & RELEASE
THE NEW SYSTEM: DETAIN & DEPORT
D E T A I N & D E P O R T 1
IMPOSES IMMEDIATE CONSEQUENCES FOR
ILLEGAL CROSSING
Removal is carried out in days or weeks, not years.
Prevents the administration from handing out work permits for simply crossing at a port of entry.
Provides 50,000 detention beds,more ICE agents,more deportation flights, and more asylum officers to
keep more people in custody while processing.
If 50,000 beds is not enough to hold people during their processing, a new expedited removal authority is
created which allows for faster processing and fewer appeals outside of custody in weeks, not years.No
more 10 year releases in the US before their hearing.
REVOLUTIONARY CHANGE IN THE ASYLUM SCREENING
Prohibits illegal migrants who could have relocated within their home country from being eligible for asylum in
the US.
Bars criminal aliens from getting through the first asylum screening at the border.
Bars any alien that re-settled or could have re-settled in another country on the way to the United States.
Raises the standard for evidence of persecution to the higher Trump Administration’s “reasonable possibility”
standard. This alone will dramatically reduce the number of people allowed through the asylum screening
process.
Combines three separate screenings to make the process faster at the border: Credible Fear(asylum),
Convention Against Torture (CAT), and Withholding of Removal. This will quickly send illegal migrants who do
not qualify for asylum back to their home country, instead of being released into the US for seemingly endless
appeals and hearings.
Each of these changes would reduce dramatically the number of people eligible to even apply for asylum, but
together they will be a powerful tool for any administration willing to enforce the law.
PROVIDES NEW EXPEDITED REMOVAL AUTHORITY TO
ENSURE ILLEGAL MIGRANTS ARE REMOVED WITHIN 90 DAYS
Currently,most illegal migrants are processed without screening,released into the interior for10 or more
years, and placed into a 3million case backlog—that ends with this bill.
The new expedited removal authority ensures that every illegal alien who crosses the borde ris either
detained or tracked. Some family groups are hard to detain, so those groups will have alternative to
detention, fast hearings and one limited appeal.
Those who do not qualify will be removed.

D E T A I N & D E P O R T 2
BUILDS THE WALL
Provides $650million to build and reinforce miles and miles of new border wall.
It also withholds the majority of the wall money to be used during the next administration.
RADICAL CHANGE FROM CATCH AND RELEASE
TO ENFORCE AND DEPORT
Increases Border Patrol recruitment and streamlines hiring.
Funding for more ICE Agents and ICE detention beds.
Funding for effective mandatory monitoring.
Funding for ICE removal operations (flights and buses back home).
Uses direct hire procedures to increase ICE deportation officers and enforcement and removal
personnel to ensure that illegal migrants can be quickly repatriated to their home countries.

PROHIBITS CRIMINALS FROM OBTAINING ASYLUM
Under current law, a criminal alien could wait 10 or more years in the asylum backlog before being denied
and sent home.
Rather than allowing these criminal aliens to be caught,released, and remain at large in the US this bill
will deny and deport these criminal aliens immediately after they cross the border.

THE NEW BORDER SECURITY BILL DOES
NOT INCLUDE AMNESTY OF ANY KIND.
D E T A I N & D E P O R T

https://www.lankford.senate.gov/new...-with-huge-wins-for-securing-the-border/


https://www.lankford.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/FINAL-GENERAL-ONE-PAGER.pdf

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It's long, but it's time stamped.

If you just want a quick laugh, just watch the host's video compilation of Fauci going door to door in Baltimore trying to talk people into the vaccine. The last dude is HILARIOUS!

It's only about three minutes at 2:12:40 wink


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I'm really curious about some of the specifics. I'm assuming the language in that link is specific to illegal crossings (sometimes the wording seems to be more general and could include legal crossings... as someone who used to cross this border each day, I may be reading too much into this).

We all know that this intended to address the southern border, but does it also apply to northern border and folks coming in from overseas illegally?


What's summarized in that link sounds pretty good to me. I can't imaging being so opposed to what's laid out there to not even want to discuss it.


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