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Don't you get it? Rudy, like the rest of Trumps boys, is waiting and stalling. They feel as if Trump wins the election, they get off scott free.

Why wouldn't they? He's well known for giving out pardons to those who worked for him and the rich......

Alex Adjmi: Adjmi was granted a full pardon. The White House said Adjmi was convicted of a financial crime in 1996 and served 5 years in prison.

Michael Ashley: Ashley was convicted for bank fraud over the 2009 collapse of mortgage company Lend America and sentenced to 3 years in prison in 2019. He was the executive vice president and chief business strategist with the company. Ashley was ordered to pay $49 million in restitution and $800,000 in forfeiture. His sentence was commuted.

Stephen K. Bannon: Trump's former chief strategist in the White House was in charge of the final months of his 2016 presidential campaign and was indicted in August along with three others on wire fraud and money laundering conspiracy charges. Prosecutors alleged that Bannon’s crowdfunding “We Build the Wall” campaign raised more than $25 million from Trump supporters and used hundreds of thousands for personal expenses. He was taken into custody by U.S. Postal Inspection Service agents while on board the yacht of Chinese billionaire Guo Wengui. Bannon received a full pardon and now will not have to face a trial.

Dr. Faustino Bernadett: Bernadett, a retired anesthesiologist, was sentenced last year to 15 months in federal prison for taking part in a long-running health care fraud scheme where he authorized sham contracts that concealed over $30 million in illegal kickback payments to physicians, according to the U.S. Attorney’s Office. The overall scheme resulted in more than $900 million in fraudulent bills being submitted, the office said. The White House said Bernadett has spent the past year “devoted to helping protect his community from Covid-19.” He received a full pardon.

Carl Andrews Boggs: Trump granted a full pardon to Carl Andrews Boggs. In 2014, Boggs pleaded guilty to federal charges stemming from a criminal investigation into the illegal use of a disadvantaged business enterprise to obtain government-funded construction contracts. According to the U.S. Attorney’s Office, he pleaded guilty to one count of conspiracy to defraud the department of transportation and one count of money laundering conspiracy.

Todd Boulanger: Trump granted a full pardon to Todd Boulanger, who is a former deputy to disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff. In 2009, he pleaded guilty to conspiring with others to commit honest services fraud, according to the Department of Justice. Boulanger, Abramoff and other lobbyists working with them sought to advance the interests of groups and companies they represented by lobbying federal legislative and executive branch officials, the department said.

Elliott Broidy: Broidy, a former Republican National Committee finance chair and one of Trump's top fundraisers, was pardoned. Broidy pleaded guilty in October to conspiring to violate foreign lobbying laws. Prosecutors said that the scheme aimed to have the Trump administration sink an investigation into the multibillion-dollar looting of a Malaysian state investment fund.

Randall “Duke” Cunningham: Another ex-member of Congress, the California Republican was sentenced to 8 years in prison for bribery and was released in 2013. He received a conditional pardon.

Paul Erickson: Erickson, a conservative operative with ties to the NRA, came under scrutiny during the investigation into Russian election interference. He pleaded guilty to wire fraud and money laundering in an unrelated case.

George Gilmore: This former local GOP chairman was convicted in April 2019 of failing to pay payroll taxes and for making false statements on a bank loan application. In an appeal, Gilmore claimed that a “hoarding” disorder made him spend lavishly on personal expenses rather than make timely payments to the IRS. His pardon was supported by former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie among others.

Here is the complete list which is much longer than those I cited.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...nute-pardons-commuted-sentences-n1254806

Then there are Paul Manafort; Charles Kushner, the father of his son-in-law; his longtime friend and adviser Roger Stone; and his former national security adviser Michael Flynn. Most already know about them. It must be nice to be able to not only run a crime syndicate but have the ability to pardon the members of that crime syndicate who get caught and convicted.

Repulsive.

Nothing he does seems too low for his voters.

So is it the conservative on the left you are accusing of lying?

Kaitlan Collins 'Can't Believe' She Has To Fact-Check Trump On Biden Accusation

CNN’s Kaitlan Collins on Wednesday appeared fed up with the former president’s wild accusation that President Joe Biden has been hopped up on drugs like cocaine.

During a campaign stop in Racine, Wisconsin, the former president predicted Biden will do the same for their debate next week and directly accused the incumbent of being the one who left a baggie of cocaine at the White House last summer. (The Secret Service concluded it could not finger the culprit.)

“He’s gonna be so pumped up, he’s gonna be pumped up,” Trump told the crowd. “You know all that stuff that was missing about a month ago from the White House? What happened? … Somebody didn’t pick up hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of cocaine. I wonder who that could’ve been. I don’t know. Actually, I think it was Joe.”

Collins’ annoyance that she had to bat down Trump’s persistent and baseless claim came through.

“I can’t even believe I have to fact-check that one, I guess if that’s what you’re calling it,” Collins said. “But it was not President Biden.”

Trump, who previously said Biden was “higher than a kite” during his State of the Union address in March, has cynically renewed calls for a debate drug test as the showdown nears. Meanwhile, Republican allies have also harped on Biden’s supposed deficit in mental fitness by using deceptive videos.

The criminally convicted GOP candidate has been accused of his own cognitive shortcomings.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/kaitlan-collins-cant-believe-she-124852860.html

At most it was $100 dollars worth of cocaine and that happened 11 months ago, not 1 month ago. The man simply can't stop lying. But he is their GOP God.

Arizona is sending taxpayer money to religious schools — and billionaires see it as a model for the US

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/19/politics/arizona-private-school-vouchers-invs/index.html

For anyone who may not have known.......

Before he became a politician, House Speaker Mike Johnson partnered with an anti-gay conversion therapy group

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/01/politics/mike-johnson-kfile-invs/index.html

Meanwhile someone said something stupid in a TV drama series that seems to have some type of political meaning for some odd reason. Then said poster claims someone else needs mental help.

Republicans Plan to Cut Free School Lunches

The largest ideological caucus in the House Republican conference is proposing steep cuts to free and reduced school lunch programs nationwide, citing the need to "prevent the widespread fraud present in the program."

https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-plan-cut-free-school-lunches-1807361

Republican governors in 15 states are rejecting a new federally funded program to give food assistance to hungry children during the summer months, denying benefits to 8 million children across the country.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/01/10/republican-governors-summer-lunch-program/

If your politics call for you to take food out of the mouths of children while demanding the Ten Commandments be displayed in schools, we don't follow the same Jesus.

Law and Order leader of the Law and Order Party my Arse. Trump hangs out with Criminals. In some cases, they become criminals in service of Trump. How hard is it to understand. Throw your lot in with Trump, you are likely to end up in Legal Trouble. The proof is out there. Someday, some of these idiots will figure it out, I hope!

...Jesus hung out with criminals.

(No, I didn't intend that as a crucifixion joke)

I feel the same way

But- Jesus didn't wilfully, and with foreknowledge, engage in criminal activity with them.

Two different people/two different results.


just stating the obvious...

Comparing Jesus to Trump in any fashion is blasphemy

Let me ask you this, where in the bible or anywhere you can look did Jesus preach hate?

That's debatable. Assault, battery, and destruction of property are all potential charges from the throwing money lenders out of the Temple event.

There's also the treason/insurrection ("King of the Jews") angle.

Falsely condemned and sentenced by the mob. I can see why religious zealots might draw parallels.

I mean Stormy Daniels/Mary Magdalene same difference, right? The shark or electrocution debate is "obviously" ( ) a parable taken out of context and misunderstood.

....Wait.... Maybe they are the same person with similar results....

/Satire

Maybe the Bible itself is blasphemous.

Psalms 5:4, Proverbs 8:13. That is assuming that the Bible is "God-breathed," and God and Jesus are parts of the same trinity (as the book states.)

Trump probably has people working on a sequel now- "The Bible 2: The Tribulations of Donald Trump, Son of God." He'll probably go with a movie over a book, though. ...Cast Chris Hemsworth as himself?

If Jesus were to come back today with his message of love, understanding and charity to those with less than yourself Christians would call him a libtard and want to hang him like they wanted to hang Mike Pence.

I'm thinking more like Kevin Spacey.

...Well, the left likely would have curb stomped him at a Black Lives Matter rally for wearing an All Lives Matter pin, so both sides have that in common.

You seem to think or suggest that Jesus would have been at a black lives matter rally wearing an all lives matter pin. I on the other hand spoke about what Jesus actually stood for and preached. One again I'm dealing with reality and you're convoluting some made up scenario. But you do you.

Steve Bannon makes longshot request to Supreme Court to avoid prison

Steve Bannon, a conservative podcast host and former strategist for Donald Trump, asked the Supreme Court on Friday to pause his prison sentence while he appeals his conviction for contempt of Congress.

A federal appeals court on Thursday night rejected his bid to delay the start of his sentence.

Bannon’s longshot request comes months after another former Trump adviser, Peter Navarro, failed to receive a similar break from the conservative high court.

A federal judge ruled recently that Bannon must turn himself in by July 1 to begin serving a four-month sentence for contempt of Congress as he appeals his case. Bannon is set to report to the low-security federal prison in Danbury, Connecticut, instead of a minimum-security prison camp he had sought, CNN reported this week.

Bannon was convicted by a federal jury two years ago in Washington, DC, for not complying with a subpoena for an interview and documents in the US House’s January 6, 2021, investigation. He has remained a staunch Trump ally and is a vocal supporter of his presidential reelection bid.

In recent days, Bannon has amped up his rhetoric against the Justice Department, telling a conservative gathering in Detroit this month that they would “purge” the department and “take apart” the FBI if Trump won the election.

The Supreme Court has asked prosecutors to respond to Bannon’s emergency application by Wednesday afternoon.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/21/poli...supreme-court-to-avoid-prison/index.html

Again, I don't think you know what reality is. Faith, hope, and love do not reality make. You may be the one pushing a made up scenario as reality.

The only thing I'm pushing is stating what Jesus taught. If you don't believe in Jesus that's certainly your option.

What Jesus allegedly taught.

Now we're getting somewhere. You're talking about beliefs. It seems you confuse beliefs with reality and facts and knowing quite frequently.

I'm not declaring that your beliefs are outright wrong, just pointing out that they are highly reliant on faith.

Which has nothing to do with the theoretic possibility of "If Jesus were alive today".

I'm explaining what the Bible, which many choose to believe in states. About what the Bible says he taught. Nowhere did I state anything otherwise. It is reliant on faith and nowhere did I state anything to the contrary nor did I state that everyone was supposed to believe it. Once again you are inventing things that have nothing to do with a theoretical possibility.

What I'm considering here is that the majority of people who say they believe in Jesus does not even remotely line up with their actions of today. If that's a concept which escaped you that isn't a me issue.

Gobblelity Gook. Now, can you tell me where Jesus said to hate?

Luke 14:26

Dawn45 excelled on one thing over all others: he had an uncanny knack for surrounding himself with the dumbest criminals he could gather.

How stupid is it to petition the Supreme Court one week, then do something like this in public/on mic, the next:


The smartest choice the Supremes could make is to do nothing. There is nothing to be gained for them by doing anything in this instance.


side thought:
When Bannon gets perp-walked into Riker's (or its equivalent) and goes radio silent for 4 months, a whole lotta internet tough guys are going to start having second thoughts.
Don't break the law.


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Wow, we got a whole political rodeo goin' on here!

Damanshot, you’re talkin’ about Rudy and the Trump crew playin’ the waitin’ game, hopin' for a big win to get off scot-free. It’s like they’re waitin’ for a Hail Mary in the last seconds of the game. Now, I ain’t sayin’ that’s right or wrong, just that it’s a risky play. Kinda like hopin’ the Browns win it all every year – we all got our dreams, don’t we?

PitDAWG, you laid out a laundry list of folks gettin’ pardons like it’s candy on Halloween. I gotta admit, it’s a head-scratcher. On one hand, it’s the president’s right; on the other, it feels like a never-ending soap opera. Not sayin’ I’m for it or against it, just that it makes for some wild TV.

MemphisBrownie, you got a point about tackles bein’ tackles, but these pardons? Whole different kind of game, my friend. But hey, life’s full of surprises, and politics is just one big, messy ball of yarn.

Bull_Dawg, you’re throwin' out some spicy comparisons. Trump to Jesus? That’s a stretch even I can’t wrap my head around. But hey, everyone’s got their view, and I’m just here to watch the show. Jesus was about love and forgiveness, and Trump? Well, he’s got his own playbook, doesn’t he?

Now, about all these Bible quotes and debates – I’m no theologian, but I figure Jesus wouldn’t want us squabblin' like cats in a sack. He’d probably be tellin' us to show some kindness and keep our heads on straight. Whether you’re quotin’ scripture or lookin’ for loopholes, we could all use a bit more neighborly love.

You see, my grandpappy, Old Rusty Ralph, was a sage of the highest order, with more wisdom packed in his noggin than a library full of encyclopedias. And let me tell ya, his thoughts on politicians were pure gold.

So, picture this: it's a warm summer evening in Boardman, Ohio. Grandpappy Ralph is sittin' on the porch, rockin' in his creaky ol' chair, and sippin’ on his homemade lemonade. I sidle up to him and ask, "Grandpappy, what do you think about politicians?"

He lets out a chuckle that sounds like a rusty gate and says, "Randy, let me tell ya somethin’ 'bout them politicians. They’re slicker than a buttered biscuit at a Sunday picnic and twice as hard to trust. Ya see, they promise you the moon and stars, but all they deliver is a bucket of hot air and a map to nowhere!"

Grandpappy always said politicians were like weather vanes – always turnin' whichever way the wind blows. "Them politicians," he’d say, "are like them carnival hucksters, sellin' miracle elixirs and claimin' it'll cure everything from baldness to broken hearts. But all you end up with is an empty wallet and a headache."

He had this theory, too. "You ever notice how politicians always got a big ol' smile plastered on their faces? It's ‘cause they're like them slick salesmen at the county fair, tryin' to sell you a dream. They know the game’s rigged, but they want you to keep playin', thinkin' you got a chance."

Grandpappy Ralph would lean in real close and whisper, "Randy, politicians are like them dandelions in the yard. No matter how many times you try to get rid of 'em, they keep poppin' back up. You just gotta learn to live with 'em and hope they don’t spread too much."

And his advice for dealin' with politicians? "Son, always keep your eyes open and your wits about ya. Don’t believe everything they say, and for the love of all that’s holy, never trust a man who can smile while tellin' a lie. They might talk big, but remember, actions speak louder than words – and politicians’ actions are usually as useful as a screen door on a submarine."

They were supposed to be more ridiculous satire than spicy comparisons. People on the boards on both sides of the aisle like to say the other side is a cult, but their side certainly isn't. I tend to point out instances where both act like cults with a fair bit of hyperbole thrown in.

I can relate to watching the show. It can be hard to stay away from the train wreck. Sometimes I can't resist kicking over the anthills and trying to get them to see the world outside their bubbles. Unfortunately, they don't seem to respond to logic, so I resort to instruments that use more artistic license.

Trump? Not only is he a "bad politician," he's a bad "bad politician." I'm not sure he has a playbook. He might have a doodle pad.

26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple. 27 And whoever does not carry their cross and follow me cannot be my disciple.



Where does it say Jesus preaches hate in that?

He's not telling someone to hate. He's saying IF you hate!

What did you do, do a word search in the on line bible and search for the word HATE?

One first has to present logic in order for people to respond to it.

Religion in politics… Because the pearl clutching faux right FEELZ left behind, so they want to invoke their make believe religion and deity to assume some moral high ground over the sane and leverage that to install a fascist dystopia. Ffs, we need to cull these people from the mainstream American soul.

Lauren Boebert Tells Steve Bannon About The Need For Morals In Jaw-Dropping Chat

“This is something we need all throughout our nation ... because we need morals back in our nation, back in our schools,” she said in a clip surfaced by MeidasTouch Network. “If there’s anything we are going to present in front of our children, it’s going to be, it should be, the word of God. Because this is the one truth that is never going to change and never going to leave them. It’s not some woke fad of the day that you can get canceled for believing in 10 years from now.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/lauren-boebert-tells-steve-bannon-110703150.html



Oh what a tangled web we weave.

Actually, I grew up in a Bible Bowl (trivia competition) family and had to memorize a ton of Bible verses.

Read it again. I'll grant it's an odd sentence construction with a double negative. It says you can't be his disciple if you don't hate. Thus, to be his disciple, one must hate. (Earthly things, including one's self and family, to commit all of one's heart, soul, and mind to God is one interpretation that makes sense to some.)

Yeah, the Bible says lots of things that people like to pretend that it doesn't.

Perhaps hate is a bad translation of the original language, but that carries its own problems with regards to the Bible's infallibility.

What's funny about that is that Pit and Daman, who support Biden, are the ones that keep pointing at Jesus in this thread.

We do. We keep pointing out how hypocritical the very people what wear the Bible as their badge of honor in no way represent what the bible teaches. It's a pretty basic concept.

We are all unworthy--cull these people- some would say you're advocating killing them- interesting. Bible wise- pick and choose your favorite verse to advocate your position- I've done it sadly. Boil it all down and Jesus gave us the answer- love God above all AND love your neighbor as yourself. Only sick folks hurt themselves- detest actions not the sinner.

Republican Cra Cra Again- Newsweek- " California judge has rejected a motion made by former Trump White House aide Garrett Ziegler to dismiss charges alleging that he hacked into Hunter Biden's laptop and posted its contents online." Ain't it interesting a Rep wants to justify breaking into/stealing/using private data for the greater good- his reasoning- my illegally violating your right to privacy is OK cuz I found stuff EVERYONE should know----what BS. Law and Order Party now has a convicted felon as their representative for our Presidency- just WOW.