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Trump knows both of the men who are most responsible for this. I have a hard time believing that he doesn’t know they are responsible for this. I seriously doubt Trump came up with this since he isn’t all that bright and is declining.

Come up with it himself, no,, I seriously doubt he's capable. But to deny he knows anything about it, that's gotta be a lie. His VP supported it. So he knows about it and most probably agrees with what little he read of it.




Project 2025 is a multi-pronged effort spearheaded by the Heritage Foundation, with help from other conservative organizations, aimed at preparing for the next conservative administration—namely a second Trump administration—which has primarily garnered criticism for its 900-page policy blueprint proposing a total overhaul of the executive branch, which was first released last year.

Trump decried Project 2025 on Truth Social in July, saying he has “nothing to do with them” and calling some of its ideas “absolutely ridiculous and abysmal,” and his campaign advisor Chris LaCivita has also slammed the group and called the operation “a pain in the ass” to the Trump campaign—even as ties have emerged between the ex-president, his running mate Sen. JD Vance, R-Ohio, and the Heritage Foundation.

Russell Vought: The left-wing Centre for Climate Reporting published secret footage Thursday of two people posing as donors and speaking with Vought—a former Trump administration staffer who runs a right-wing group and authored a chapter of Project 2025—who said he’s “not worried” about Trump distancing himself from Project 2025, claiming the ex-president “blessed” the project and “is very supportive of what we do.”

Kevin Roberts: Trump flew on a private jet with Heritage Foundation President Kevin Roberts in 2022, the Washington Post reported, before speaking at a Heritage Foundation event, and he also praised Roberts in a February speech as “doing an unbelievable job.”

Public Comments: Trump publicly cheered the Heritage Foundation’s policy work in the past, saying in 2022—before Project 2025’s agenda was released—that the organization was “going to lay the groundwork and detail plans for exactly what our movement will do … when the American people give us a colossal mandate.”

Project 2025 Briefing: Roberts told the Post in April he had briefed Trump on Project 2025, saying he “personally [has] talked to President Trump about Project 2025 … because my role in the project has been to make sure that all of the candidates who have responded to our offer for a briefing on Project 2025 get one from me.”

JD Vance: Roberts has even closer ties to Vance, with the Heritage leader telling Politico in March the senator was “absolutely going to be one of the leaders—if not the leader—of our movement” and saying after Vance was named as Trump’s running mate that the Heritage Foundation had been privately “really rooting” for him to be the pick.

Kevin Roberts’ Book: Vance also wrote the foreword to Roberts’ forthcoming book outlining “a peaceful ‘Second American Revolution’” for conservative voters, in which Vance reportedly quotes Roberts as saying, “It’s time to circle the wagons and load the muskets” and praises the Heritage Foundation as “the most influential engine of ideas for Republicans from Ronald Reagan to Donald Trump.”

Project 2025 Authors: More than 140 former members of the Trump administration are involved with Project 2025, according to CNN, including six of his former Cabinet secretaries—and several people authored chapters whom the Post reports Trump has suggested could be in his second administration, including former advisor Peter Navarro, former Housing Secretary Ben Carson and former acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller.


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Yea, but trump said ...

The purple kinda works both ways...

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Trump knows both of the men who are most responsible for this. I have a hard time believing that he doesn’t know they are responsible for this. I seriously doubt Trump came up with this since he isn’t all that bright and is declining.

Come up with it himself, no,, I seriously doubt he's capable. But to deny he knows anything about it, that's gotta be a lie. His VP supported it. So he knows about it and most probably agrees with what little he read of it.

Agree with that.

Want to ask the question, if he knows nothing about it, how can he disagree with some of the things they are saying?

It would simply be impossible. He has to know what's in it to disagree with it. Then again, It's trump. He knows it's not popular,.. He is aware of that. So whatever P2025 is, it's not popular. If it was reported tomorrow that Fuzzy Dice hanging from the rear view mirror was the most popular auto add on, he'd be for it.


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Plausible deniability.

Just like emails. No paper trail.


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Plausible deniability.

Just like emails. No paper trail.

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Kind of like Kamala with fracking huh?🤣

If he claims not to know what’s in it that would explain him not endorsing it because of course he wouldn’t endorse something that he doesn’t know what’s in it.

I don’t believe the clowns that told people that Trump told people to inject bleach. What an incredibly STUPID, BALD FACED lie. Or series of lies, to be more accurate.

Take a look at the anatomy of a BS story.

a. Trump never told anyone to ingest or digest or inject bleach the word bleach was never used

b. Some claim that Trump meant bleach when he said disinfectant This is obviously false and a lie because in the same press Conference Trump said he was talking about a disinfectant that kills the virus or knocks the virus out In about a minute. Since the media partial quoted and left a bunch of stuff out deceptively, people don’t realize That in the same press conference the expert, I think Bryan was his last name), clearly Said that bleach takes five minutes to knock the virus out. Seeing that Trump was responding to what he had been told by Mr. Bryan, It is unlikely that he was talking about bleach, because once again Trump mentioned a disinfectant that takes about a minute after it was said that bleach takes five minutes. So the second claim was a bald face lie too.

C. Thirdly, the deceptive, demonic, deceitful, Deplorable, media claimed that Trump suggested that people ingest or inject things. But he did not say that. He said can will there be tests run or conducted on that So the third claim is a bald face, gaslighting, lie

d. Fourth, The fact checkers said that it would be impossible to treat patients with Covid with you light which is what Trump was talking about. They were wrong.

https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsro...ovid-19-patients-treated-with-uva-light/

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Kind of like Kamala with fracking huh?🤣

If he claims not to know what’s in it that would explain him not endorsing it because of course he wouldn’t endorse something that he doesn’t know what’s in it.

I don’t believe the clowns that told people that Trump told people to inject bleach. What an incredibly STUPID, BALD FACED lie. Or series of lies, to be more accurate.

Take a look at the anatomy of a BS story.

a. Trump never told anyone to ingest or digest or inject bleach the word bleach was never used

b. Some claim that Trump meant bleach when he said disinfectant This is obviously false and a lie because in the same press Conference Trump said he was talking about a disinfectant that kills the virus or knocks the virus out In about a minute. Since the media partial quoted and left a bunch of stuff out deceptively, people don’t realize That in the same press conference the expert, I think Bryan was his last name), clearly Said that bleach takes five minutes to knock the virus out. Seeing that Trump was responding to what he had been told by Mr. Bryan, It is unlikely that he was talking about bleach, because once again Trump mentioned a disinfectant that takes about a minute after it was said that bleach takes five minutes. So the second claim was a bald face lie too.

C. Thirdly, the deceptive, demonic, deceitful, Deplorable, media claimed that Trump suggested that people ingest or inject things. But he did not say that. He said can will there be tests run or conducted on that So the third claim is a bald face, gaslighting, lie

d. Fourth, The fact checkers said that it would be impossible to treat patients with Covid with you light which is what Trump was talking about. They were wrong.

https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsro...ovid-19-patients-treated-with-uva-light/

And he didn't say he'd use the military to go after his opponents. (he did say that by the way) Ya Know what, I think it's time you expanded where you get your news.


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Where I get my news? Transcripts mostly. You know, those WORD FOR WORD manuscripts that you can get online. I get my manuscripts from mainstream media, which is hilarious, because the transcripts they provide debunk their own lies. But they know most people are too lazy to read.

I don’t let other people chew my food for me, like you Dawgs. 😉

You should think for yourself once in a while. There are transcripts available online for most speeches/press conferences.

So with that said, I’ll do us both a favor and peruse the transcript where Trump allegedly said he’d use the military to go after opponents. Check you later.

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Here’s the quote you referred to in immediate context. I will need to look at it in deeper context later. In immediate context (preceding question), he was asked about outside AGITATORS. So the question that prompted the quote was regarding outside agitators, but Trump said the bigger problem was domestic agitators on the left, it seems.

But I will review other data and give a more complete
Answer later.

Here’s the immediete context though.

BARTIROMO: I'm just wondering if these outside agitators will start up on Election Day. Let's say you win, I mean let's remember, you've got 50,000 Chinese nationals in this country in the last couple of years, you have people on the terrorist watchlist, 350 in the last couple of years. You've got — like you said — 13,000 murderers and 15,000 rapists. What are you expecting? Joe Biden said he doesn't think it's going to be a peaceful Election Day.

TRUMP: Well, he doesn't have any idea what's happening in all fairness. He spends most of his day sleeping. I think the bigger problem is the enemy from within, not even the people that have come and… and destroying our country and, by the way, totally destroying our country. The towns and villages, they're being inundated. But I don't think they're the problem in terms of Election Day. I think the bigger problem are the people from within. We have some very bad people. We have some sick people, radical-left lunatics. And I think… and it should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard or if really necessary by the military, because they can't let that happen.

Addendum. Enemies from within. When asked for additional clarification about what Trump meant in his interview, campaign spokesman Steven Cheung equated the prospect of unspecified efforts by the left during the elections with the recent arrest of an Afghan man in Oklahoma, who is accused of plotting an Election Day attack in the United States in the name of the Islamic State group.

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Ps. Besides the context I provided above, I have a question for you that will show how either DUMB or Dishonest Kamala and the media is.

How do you propose that Trump would be able to use the military against enemies on ELECTION DAY when he’s not president yet?🤣 riddle me this Batman.

And the question was not about opponents, it was about election day agitators.

Do you see how thoroughly incompetent Kamala is to even think logically. Leftism robs people of the ability to reason or think logically.

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It's pretty much useless at this point. They still take a man at his word whose first thing he told them when he came down that elevator in 2015 and said he was running for president was that he was going to build a border wall and Mexico was going to pay for it. Out of over 1400 miles of open border he built a fence on 52 miles of it and Mexico didn't pay for a dime of it.

They're as easily duped as the students at trump university were.


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It's pretty much useless at this point. They still take a man at his word whose first thing he told them when he came down that elevator in 2015 and said he was running for president was that he was going to build a border wall and Mexico was going to pay for it. Out of over 1400 miles of open border he built a fence on 52 miles of it and Mexico didn't pay for a dime of it.

They're as easily duped as the students at trump university were.

I know but I keep trying.. The level of Stupid is insane. Chaney said it best, if you won't let this guy babysit your kid, why would you want him to lead your country.

But that's ok, he'll talk about Arnold Palmers Penis and get Cheers. That demonstrated the dumb....


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I saw him pretending to work at McDonald's too. I don't want fries with that.


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I’ll ask again. When did Trump say that he would send the military to go after opponents? What I read is that The military National Guard can take care of a problem with VIOLENT agitators on election day. Antifa pretty much got away with everything literally for years. You would have no authority to use the military against anyone. He never said he would send a military after someone He never used the word opponents, Contextually the context was about violent agitators (read the context). Etc

No one told me this. It is the conclusion I came to by reading the data. I think for myself. I don’t let mama Kamala or daddy Biden tell me what to think.

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I saw him pretending to work at McDonald's too. I don't want fries with that.

I ordered a McFib Sandwich,,,,,


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I predict that whatever the outcome of the election is, you guys are going to look really silly in 4 years. When Democrats call people “ a cult”, they’re only projecting.

You’ll see.

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We've already seen trump since 2015. Nothing we could get from anyone else could be worse. I've seen a lot of people like you try to make crazy predictions. They're usually referred to as Nostradumbass.


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Honest Question for professed Christians who are Democrats.

Do you think that Jesus was wrong when he believed in two genders and monogamous heterosexual sex only. Or do you say or hold that Jesus was correct, but But people have freedom to choose to do what is contrary to his teachings and his clear view of old Testament scripture?

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What Christians do and don't believe has nothing to do with our government. It has nothing to do with the fact that all humans are people and deserve to be treated as decently as every other human does. And since you brought Jesus into it, Jesus said to love thy neighbor. He didn't say to only love thy neighbor if they aren't gay or Transsexual. He also said this.....

Leviticus 19:33-34 “When a stranger sojourns with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong. You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.”

Are you sure you want to bring Jesus into this?


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When Democrats call people “ a cult”, they’re only projecting.

You’ll see.

"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?" -DJT


You are part of the slice of America that has made this quote true. Today.

... but please, tell us more about cults and who's projecting what.


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Some people get hit with the stupid stick, some get the whole damn forrest. You can’t save em all and deprogramming will take decades.

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When Democrats call people “ a cult”, they’re only projecting.

You’ll see.

"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?" -DJT


You are part of the slice of America that has made this quote true. Today.

... but please, tell us more about cults and who's projecting what.


No, sorry to rain on your argument, but I would not vote for Trump if he shot somebody. In addition, I know Hyperbole and humour when I hear it. I mean, not here, the laughter that Followed when he said that, Or did you just read the news clippings?

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… But at least our side knows that to primary someone is not an an act of violence, we also know that if we watched the exchange or read the transcript we also know regarding the bleach lie, that bleach takes five hours to kill Covid not one hour like the thing that Trump was talking about. And we also know that UV light is currently being used to treat Covid patients, when they said it was impossible and I believe it was already been tested around the time that press conference happened. I could be wrong. Nevertheless, it was a baldface lie to say that Trump told people to inject bleach. 😀

Appears people are ready to believe anything

Oh, and by the way our side is smart enough to know that Trump cannot use the national guard or the military on election day before he’s prez. And he never said that he would send National Guard or military after his opponents. He said that if there is a problem with violent agitators the The military or National Guard and take care of it. Since the Context was VIoLENT AGITATORS on election day, it is impossible that Trump would be the one to call the military or National Guard because he would not be president yet And he never said “go after” and he never mentioned opponents. These kind of facts are lost on people like Kamala Harris and the people that support her. 😀.

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No, no many of them do not know that. Or did you forget that trump loves the uneducated? And many certainly couldn't ignore an entire list of speakers that were presented on stage before trump. A rally trump called for and speakers he approved to rile up that crowd. It seems you believe that somehow you can rile up a crowd by sending people out there for that very purpose and some caveat at the end absolves you from everything that preceded it. That only works in trumplandia.


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I think you missed the fact that I was speaking of the CLEAR things your side misses.

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We didn't miss anything. We're not the ones who are trying to make the excuse that because of one or two lines trump spoke that somehow excuses the mountain of hate and lying rhetoric spoke on that stage which riled these people up into the actions they took that day. And we didn't miss who it was the sent them there either.


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After Trump's reelection, conservatives promote Project 2025
"Can we admit now that we're going to implement Project 2025?" right-wing YouTuber Benny Johnson said.

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With Donald Trump reelected as president, a policy agenda that was written up by a conservative think tank is back at the forefront of conversations over what a second Trump term could look like.

Know as Project 2025, the 922-page document was crafted by the Heritage Foundation as a blueprint for the next Republican administration that would radically reshape how the American government works. Democrats repeatedly tried to link Trump to Project 2025, but Trump had said he had “no idea who is behind it” and had “nothing to do with” the plan. (Project 2025 was spearheaded by two former Trump officials: Paul Dans and Spencer Chretien; Vice President-elect JD Vance also wrote the forward to Heritage Foundation president Kevin Roberts’s book.)

One of the first groups to congratulate Trump on his presidential win was the Heritage Foundation. In a statement Wednesday morning, Roberts wrote, “The entire conservative movement stands united behind him.”

Since Wednesday morning, multiple Trump supporters have come out to throw their support behind Project 2025.

Conservative activist Matt Walsh posted on X, “Now that the election is over I think we can finally say that yeah actually Project 2025 is the agenda. Lol.” Reacting to Walsh’s post, Steve Bannon, Trump’s former White House chief strategist, said on his podcast War Room Wednesday that “Project 2025 is the agenda.”

Texas’s Tarrant County GOP chair Bo French also posted on X, writing, “So can we admit now that we are going to implement Project 2025?” Conservative YouTuber Benny Johnson chimed in with, “It is my honor to inform you all that Project 2025 was real the whole time.”

The Trump campaign has not commented on Project 2025 as of Thursday afternoon

What is Project 2025 and what is it proposing?

Project 2025 describes itself as “a policy agenda, personnel, training and a 180-day playbook” to be initiated on “day one” of the next Republican presidency. It outlines several agenda items including law proposals, laws to revoke and government agency restructuring.

While the Trump campaign separated itself from Project 2025, Trump’s name is mentioned over 300 times throughout the document.

Some of its specific directives include:

An overhaul of the Department of Justice and FBI, the former of which it labels “a bloated bureaucracy” with employees “who are infatuated with the perpetuation of a radical liberal agenda.”

Implement Schedule F, a Trump-era executive order that the Biden administration repealed that would allow the reclassification — and potential replacement — of thousands of government workers.

Eliminate the Department of Education.

Shut down the EPA’s Office of Environmental Justice and External Civil Rights.

Impose wide restrictions on abortion access, including reversing federal approval of the abortion pill mifepristone.

Allocate funding for “construction of additional border wall systems.”

Ban pornography and imprison anyone who produces or distributes it.

Promote “Sabbath Rest” by encouraging Congress to amend the Fair Labor Standards Act to require people who work these days to be paid time and a half.

Have the federal government promote “biblically based, social science reinforced” heterosexual marriages.

Call on the new Health and Human Services secretary to “reverse the Biden Administration’s focus on ‘LGBTQ+ equity’” and “subsidizing single-motherhood.”

Remove sexual orientation, gender identity, diversity, equity, inclusion and gender equality from any federal rule, regulation or legislation.

Revive Trump’s plan to open most of the National Petroleum Reserve of Alaska to leasing and development.

Read more from Yahoo News: Project 2025 takes center stage at the DNC. What to know about the conservative policy plan Kamala Harris and other Dems keep attacking.

What to know about the Heritage Foundation

Since its founding in 1973, the Heritage Foundation has been ranked by the University of Pennsylvania as one of the most influential public policy organizations in the U.S. The think tank also advised the administrations of George W. Bush and Trump.

Numerous people involved in Project 2025 worked in the Trump administration or have helped with Trump’s reelection campaign. Dans, the former director of Project 2025 at the Heritage Foundation, was chief of staff at the Office of Personnel Management under Trump. Associate directors Chretien and Troup Hemenway worked for the Trump administration as well.

Of the 34 authors and two editors listed on the project, at least 25 have served Trump in some capacity, several in senior positions in his presidential administration.


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Well, I guess now (or next year) will be the time where we'll see how much of that actually will be introduced into legislation. Assuming the House goes red, theoretically, they'd have 2 years minimum to try and get something passed, although there is the filibuster. Hopefully whoever McConnell's heir is will see fit to leave it in place.

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Well, I guess now (or next year) will be the time where we'll see how much of that actually will be introduced into legislation. Assuming the House goes red, theoretically, they'd have 2 years minimum to try and get something passed, although there is the filibuster. Hopefully whoever McConnell's heir is will see fit to leave it in place.

I very much hope they leave the filibuster in place. I would like to see them roll back what was done by Reid as well, but much like taxes, once the their hands on it it won't be going away.

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Oh, we’re going to go into a cycle of Dems undo, REpTARDS undo, dems undo, etc…. That is wise… Y’all keep forgetting, you WILL NOT be in power forever. You now have 2 years tops to get crap done. Then the braindead masses will vote your asses out too. This ain’t politics, it’s a circle smirk, being led by a clowns.

Trump will grift, his plebs will grift, and the peoples needs will be as important to trump as social distancing was when he realized he might not get re-elected. And since Trump denied knowing anything about 2025, we can bet that’s the agenda just like the plebs are saying today.

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I don't agree with everything, but agree with most.

As for being in power forever....I agree, we won't, forever is a long time. I am thinking at least 12 years. Four under President Trump before he hands off to VP Vance. After that, who knows?

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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
I don't agree with everything, but agree with most.

As for being in power forever....I agree, we won't, forever is a long time. I am thinking at least 12 years. Four under President Trump before he hands off to VP Vance. After that, who knows?

Have a good day.

I don't think Trump will last 4 years - his mental decline over the last 12 months has been real. If it continues at the same rate then we'll be lucky to get 2 1/2 years out of him.

And clearly you've forgotten what a train wreck Trump's first term was. Hopefully the MSM will stop making fake noise and outcry over the silly stuff - and every time Trump says something simply stupid or lies don't focus on that - focus on the big stuff. Move away from politics of personality and look at some of the substance. Take into account the world view of America and whether we get ostracized because Trump is acting like a spoiled child instead of an ally.

Another one to watch is Musk and what he does with his new found political influence. Another douchebag who I wouldn't trust with anything but his on self adulation.


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Factor in the pot shots people will probably be taking at him/them and it could be a lot shorter. This is what happens when you elect the most hated man in the world, or as JD Vance said, “America’s Hitler”. Boy, I can’t wait to see the look in their eyes when he takes their social security, insurance, groceries, gas, and whatever else he makes unaffordable or unattainable. Imagine the damage an unrestrained idiot could do in a blown glass store… Y’all just unleashed the worlds biggest idiot on the more fragile than glassworks US economy. Lmao, you have no idea what you just did.

And what kind of betas willingly hand over protection of their women and their wife’s, daughter’s, and mother’s bodily autonomy to a rapist? Or to a cult of misogynists? I’m not sure beta is the best descriptor for what you’ve done… braindead might be a better fit. When your female kin can’t get the medical care they need until they’re on deaths door, they will surely thank you for voting for the guy who did it to them. And I hope none of you lose a loved one, like many did due to his ineptness in his first term.

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Well, I guess now (or next year) will be the time where we'll see how much of that actually will be introduced into legislation. Assuming the House goes red, theoretically, they'd have 2 years minimum to try and get something passed, although there is the filibuster. Hopefully whoever McConnell's heir is will see fit to leave it in place.

I very much hope they leave the filibuster in place. I would like to see them roll back what was done by Reid as well, but much like taxes, once the their hands on it it won't be going away.

It seems odd for me to say this, but I would actually trust McConnell to leave it in place. He won't be in charge though, not only because of age, but because I think he actually abhors Trump more than some Democrats and didn't want the possibility of working with him.

With that being said, it seems like his successors want to widely depart from his leadership style. I don't think they will get rid of it because of the slippery slope like you mentioned, but I can't say my confidence in that is over 51%.


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Originally Posted by OldColdDawg
Oh, we’re going to go into a cycle of Dems undo, REpTARDS undo, dems undo, etc…. That is wise… Y’all keep forgetting, you WILL NOT be in power forever. You now have 2 years tops to get crap done. Then the braindead masses will vote your asses out too. This ain’t politics, it’s a circle smirk, being led by a clowns.

Trump will grift, his plebs will grift, and the peoples needs will be as important to trump as social distancing was when he realized he might not get re-elected. And since Trump denied knowing anything about 2025, we can bet that’s the agenda just like the plebs are saying today.

Per what Johnson was saying, if he undoes CHIPS or ACA without any viable replacement, I think that will bring trouble in 2026.


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Originally Posted by mgh888
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
I don't agree with everything, but agree with most.

As for being in power forever....I agree, we won't, forever is a long time. I am thinking at least 12 years. Four under President Trump before he hands off to VP Vance. After that, who knows?

Have a good day.

I don't think Trump will last 4 years - his mental decline over the last 12 months has been real. If it continues at the same rate then we'll be lucky to get 2 1/2 years out of him.

And clearly you've forgotten what a train wreck Trump's first term was. Hopefully the MSM will stop making fake noise and outcry over the silly stuff - and every time Trump says something simply stupid or lies don't focus on that - focus on the big stuff. Move away from politics of personality and look at some of the substance. Take into account the world view of America and whether we get ostracized because Trump is acting like a spoiled child instead of an ally.

Another one to watch is Musk and what he does with his new found political influence. Another douchebag who I wouldn't trust with anything but his on self adulation.

I'm curious to see how he implements RFK Jr and Musk into political office. He hated Musk and then loved him because Musk sucked up to him. He seemed to promise them roles for their endorsements. I'm not sure if he'll actually follow through. If Musk leans out the Government like he says he's going to do, I think that would cause a lot of people to leave Trump, because it would certainly involve cuts to healthcare or social security. Both parties have avoided that for a long time now because it's political suicide.


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I'm curious to see how he implements RFK Jr and Musk into political office. He hated Musk and then loved him because Musk sucked up to him. He seemed to promise them roles for their endorsements.

I totally agree with you in terms of RFK Jr. but that was to win over the RFK Jr. voting block. When he got RFK Jr. he also got his voters.

In the case of Musk I disagree with you. Sure the endorsement of Musk was what he wanted because Musk has so many followers on social media. But even more importantly it was that 100 million dollars that came along with Musk. Musk bought and paid for his right to have a say. That used to be illegal in politics but we both know that rules and laws no longer apply.


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Originally Posted by dawglover05
I'm curious to see how he implements RFK Jr and Musk into political office. He hated Musk and then loved him because Musk sucked up to him. He seemed to promise them roles for their endorsements. I'm not sure if he'll actually follow through. If Musk leans out the Government like he says he's going to do, I think that would cause a lot of people to leave Trump, because it would certainly involve cuts to healthcare or social security. Both parties have avoided that for a long time now because it's political suicide.


Not to mention, Musk is nowhere near as smart and effective as he thinks he is. This is the guy that "leaned out" Twitter... and we saw how well that went. People were losing their mind over how tumultuous that went and that was just a social media platform.


There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.

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I actually think we agree on both. One thing I left out of my first part is that even though they both endorsed him, that does not ensure that he will follow through on his end either. I think there's enough blanket evidence out there demonstrating he doesn't always hold up to his end of the bargain.


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