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If it proves out he will be in jail.

I was going to say we have another Perrion Winfrey on our hands. At minimum the league will issue a stiff suspension.

Why is it that some of these bozo's can't handle an ounce of success?

I wouldn't call it a wasted pick unless details come out explaining why he dropped. I would call it a wasted life.

According to the police report the evidence in this case is quite solid. Often time it's not nearly this clear cut. You are right that it will depend on the girlfriend continuing to be a witness to what happened. But without her backing out this thing looks pretty damning simply based on the evidence cited in the police report. It will be a tough case for him to ever beat IMO. And hopefully, if he's guilty he won't beat the case.

That would mean it would have been in their best interest if they never would have reported this in the first place. Obviously they knew once this was reported and headed to the court system the paychecks would stop.


Sadly you may be right but I doubt it. I mean this isn't exactly a watson situation they have on their hands here where damned near anything will be overlooked.

Alright, this is funny.

...and receivers

Can I just say .. what an idiot. I am so diappointed in him. I hope he gets the help he obviously needs, probably while he's in jail.

I am sure it is accurate, but a witness has a way of changing the story once the rubber hits the road.

I'll just let it play out rather than speculate on all the possible outcomes. The case could fall apart for the DA or some or all could stick.

upsetting news to read this afternoon ... I really hope it's not as it appears/reports

What do you have to do to get a felony charge?

Released from jail or released from the Browns?

Released from jail

We'll see what the Browns do

Young and not very bright.

It’s amazing, even after it has happened many, many times, how guys who may have come from bad backgrounds can put themselves in a position to change their lives, then potentially destroy what they worked for.

Charged with a misdemeanor and released, sounds to me like maybe the gun part wasn't accurate. You put a gun to someones head, you're not getting a misdemeanor. Going to have to wait and see.

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I would suggest he get some intense counselling and not keep guns around the house. He is too immature to have a gun handy, if you believe the reports. Geez, can just anybody buy a Glock these days?

I agree. Counseling sounds like a good idea. Being prudent with guns is a good idea also.

Mike Florio is saying that some teams had big enough reservations about the guy they took him off their draft boards. First I’m hearing that, had no idea. I don’t see how he doesn’t get suspended for at least some time. Pointed gun at woman, dragged her down a hall, arrested… oof. Shame to, we need him in rotation this year.

Yea, doesn’t sound like he’s flush with reasonable good ideas

If he’s cut tomorrow I won’t blame the FO. Don’t need an idiot in the building, I don’t care if he’s a “good guy”.

It’s hilarious that he goes from the next Aaron Donald to this.

I'd cut his ass yesterday.

As it is, he'll fit in great with Watson and this org.

Of course the Browns would take a guy with issues like Hall while other teams that value character took him off their boards (per Florio).

Does counselling ever work or is it just a popular buzzword? I would say that everybody needs to have a gun in the house if they are legal.

No, not anybody can buy a handgun. Minors can't and convicted felons can't. Proven lunatics can't. After that, the 2nd Amendment covers everybody else.

I don't like hearing that some teams had taken him off their board - well never know the validity of that, but still

Or did teams think the gold digging "fiancee" who was cheating on him with her ex was a ticking time bomb? Baby mama drama isn't that unusual in the league. "Teams that value character" seem to really only value it for the PR. Name a team that hasn't had a player in the police blotter.

I'm not excusing Hall's alleged actions. They didn't happen in a vacuum, though, and we're only hearing one side. 21 years old with woman troubles and a kid involved is a volatile situation.

Something seems off with the account in the report. His telling them where he was going doesn't seem to fit the rest of the story. I wonder if rather than him trying to drag her out, she was trying to keep him from leaving.

At the risk of getting to boot out of here into PP, this is Ohio so yes.

Personally, I prefer to wait for all the facts to come out. Certainly, one could expect the police report to be accurate however, that report is based upon one side of the altercation.

Pretty much, yes.

What are we putting in the DT's food??

It's like they're all rage, no 'roids.


It's good for him that the stories have changed, because brandishing a firearm during the commission of another crime (even a domestic) is very bad.
If alcohol was in him at all, then it is even worse. We're talking felony territory with mandatory minimum sentences of 3+ years.