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Could be the new system we're running.

...is becoming almost as popular as "waiting for next year".

Losing Callahan was amongst my biggest fears, and I'm worried there is fallout on that front. I hope the O is just getting its kinks out.

Based only on my experience it seems obvious to me that there are coaches that have the ability to get more out of a group of players as a whole than the sum of the groups parts. Each player has their own particular skills and weaknesses. Making the most of their skills while mitigating their weaknesses is an art form not every coach has. Based on my observations that's an ingredient Callahan had. We'll see if Dickerson has that same ability. But to be fair we'll have to wait until he has a similar lineup to work with. As of now the injuries make that hard to determine. But it's certainly a concern I share with others.

I'd be fine with holding out everyone from anything too taxing until the Seattle game .. and then again for the opener

Ski’s presser today he said no starters will be playing Saturday

Coach of the Vikings talking about Myles

There is nothing for those guys to prove. Those guys are set, and pretty much have been since the start of camp. The competition now is to see who is going to be 2nd and 3rd team players.

Building the bottom of the roster is what this is all about. Winning isn't always about who has the best starters. Sometimes it is about who has the best reserves. It's a rare season where a started isn't knocked out of a game or two, if not a season. The teams that have reserves who can at least hold their own and do a respectable job are the teams with the best chance to win.

Building the bottom of the roster is just as important as building the top.

Important for PS as well. We need to weed out some fodder. I still feel this may best roster in years potentially.
Avoid other injuries as much as possible obviously.

I'm just really concerned about our OL ... we need to get that squared away (LT especially)

I'd take this next game and give all of the possibilities a look

Obviously there is luck involved with injuries ... but the contrast to the KC Chiefs is stark here. Didn't the KC starters all play the first quarter of the first preseason game? Just makes you wonder ... or it makes me wonder.

The Chiefs starters on O played 6 snaps. (They also lost Hollywood Brown to injury.)



I'm pretty sure missing starting OL and having a starting QB coming back from injury were factors in Stefanski's decision.

Ideally, everyone would be healthy and would see some snaps. Unfortunately, that's not where we find ourselves.

Bingo.

Third option: both are true.

Two really dang good defenses, and two really trashy offenses.

If our 0-line is healthy I still believe it’s a very good unit and by that I mean top10. Of course Wills and Conklin have to be well.

I will die on this hill, but not getting your starters meaningful reps in preseason is putting you behind all the teams that do. They need to get used to taking contact and running their playbooks when the games aren't against your teammates.. I get it, injuries.. they happen whether you play them or not. If you rest your starters and someone goes down first game.. what did you really gain. I know some of the better teams in the league play their starters some during preseason. Not sure if there's correlation or not, but I think there is

j/c...

I'm all for opinion and I'm probably in the middle as far as preseason "work". But there is simply no real evidence to say we've been ill prepared for the season.

Stefanski era:

2020: The only season to even make a measly argument -- stomped by the Ravens in week 1 -- but then won the next 4
2021: Lost an instant classic to the Chiefs -- won the next 3
2022: Only the 17 points by the Jets in the 4th of week two kept us from 3-0 to start
2023: Wind taken from our sails in week two, Chubb's devastating injury and lost a close game in Pittsburgh. Beat week 1 and week 3 opponents by a combined 51-6

What am I missing besides "an ode to tradition"?


What I think:

We've become an org that players want to come play at. Even after they're gone they say we're a cut above. I think one of our commitments to players, especially starters, is that we're not going to put their careers in jeopardy during meaningless preseason games unless they're not getting it done in practice and in the classroom. Period. I could be wrong, but I really think this is one of the "guardrails" that doesn't show up on the sheet. You can yell and scream that it's soft or wrong, but I think starters get work because starters want work.

In general, I agree with you. This year, though... if you don't have a healthy o-line, then you can't send out your starting QB. If you're not sending out your starting QB, then does it make sense to send out your starting pass-catchers?

Browns sign S Tyler Coyle and LS Rex Sunahara
The Browns also waived LB Brandon Bouyer-Randle and S Brady Breeze

Aug 16, 2024 at 02:15 PM
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The Cleveland Browns have made the following roster moves:
Signed:
S Tyler Coyle
LS Rex Sunahara
Waived:
LB Brandon Bouyer-Randle
S Brady Breeze (injury designation)
Coyle (6-1, 210) is officially in his first NFL season out of Purdue. Originally signed by Dallas as an undrafted free agent in 2021, Coyle has appeared in three career games. He spent time on the Cowboys and Packers practice squad last season. Coyle will wear No. 39.

Sunahara (pronounced soon-uh-HAR-uh) is 6-6, 242 lbs. and officially in his first NFL season out of West Virginia. Originally signed by Miami as an undrafted free agent in 2020, he has spent time on the practice squads in Miami and Pittsburgh. Sunahara spent time with the Browns earlier this year and appeared in the team's first preseason game. He will wear No. 50.

fate makes a good point - we certainly make it a priority to put players in the best possible situation

they are give great facilities, treatment, scouting etc (above and beyond)
they are given great care when it comes to managing injuries
they aren't overused so they can prolong their careers

j/c...

With the recent injuries in yesterday's game, I wonder if the Browns will re-think starting Watson against Seattle.

we may be forced to sit any body of consequence again - maybe not worth the risk

j/c...

Allright Lorenzo!!! Good luck!!! A university of Rhode Island Ram!!!!

Jack Conklin, Nyheim Hines, D’Anthony Bell & Jedrick Wills all did work w trainers on field. Roster status deadline looming Tuesday. PUP or no PUP?

I do not think we'll see Watson in the final preseason game.

He should probably get used to playing a little sore with the state of the OL appearing as it does.

What is he sore from? Signing his check? Please. Dude needs to show up and put up.

We as Browns fans should feel very fortunate that we have a capable backup like JW. I'm starting to get the feeling we may see him early in the season. I don't have much confidence in DW staying healthy especially with our LT situation.

Gotta agree with this.

Arm soreness? Sounds more like igotpaidanddontwanttoplayitis.

Maybe his elbow is sore, or his coccyx, ankle or big toe. Try to think positive for a change. I’m more worried about our starting OTs.