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Game on Huntley sack.


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We are really going to miss Callahan this year.


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I want to see Tillman do it in real games.


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37-26 Seahags.


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Crazy that a coach would kick a fg when he has another down to get the yards. What’s the point of scoring points when you can pretend to outsmart them and kick a fg


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Originally Posted by DaveyD
We are really going to miss Callahan this year.
Said this earlier, he’s probably the biggest loss of this regime.


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Woods and Huntley with the play of the preseason


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37-33 after another Michael Woods TD.


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Game Over.


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Originally Posted by Rishuz
I want to see Tillman do it in real games.

I do not see a scenario in which Tillman has more than 35 targets on the season barring injury. He had 44 last year and that was pre-Jeudy trade.

He's so far down down on the depth chart and there are only so many balls to go around. Cooper>Njoku>Jeudy>Moore> RBs>Tillman/Bell/Thrash>Akins

I anticipate 19 receptions for ~200 yards.

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I think a few things might change that could work in Tillman’s favor.

1. We won’t have a running game.
2. There’s a chance he’s actually better than Moore right now so I’d swap those two in your rankings. I’m not high on Moore.
3. There’s a good chance Watson will get hurt. I see Tillman getting more targets from Winston and DTR.
4. Injury to Cooper or Jeudy.


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Moore's biggest problem is we just don't use him. We put him in to run a gadget play. His first sighing of the preseason was running a reverse type play with resulted in no gain at best, probably a loss of 2-3 yards.


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I woke up surprised the game ended that close - although we scored the ultimate garbage TD

Thrash/Woods/Tillman looked good ... the WR room is a strength IMO

Our secondary backups are putrid ... literally a 1999 Browns backup unit

Huntley will never play here again

Our run game is pathetic


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Moore's biggest problem is we just don't use him. We put him in to run a gadget play. His first sighing of the preseason was running a reverse type play with resulted in no gain at best, probably a loss of 2-3 yards.

I think Moore’s biggest problem is his size and skillset. His size screams gadget guy. But his skillset is more of an outside guy. He’s a walking contradiction that doesn’t really have a natural position in the NFL.


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How many of those who started yesterday will be in our starting line up against the Cowboy’s?

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jones, pock, teller, ford, moore on offense


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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j/c:

Our new RB Jacob Saylors looked pretty good, even though it was just preseason.

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Originally Posted by Rishuz
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Moore's biggest problem is we just don't use him. We put him in to run a gadget play. His first sighing of the preseason was running a reverse type play with resulted in no gain at best, probably a loss of 2-3 yards.

I think Moore’s biggest problem is his size and skillset. His size screams gadget guy. But his skillset is more of an outside guy. He’s a walking contradiction that doesn’t really have a natural position in the NFL.

I might not disagree. My only point is if you don't give the guys a chance, and put them in a position to succeed, you don't have any idea what you have.

But in fairness, I would assume he gets some of those looks in practice.


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Originally Posted by leadtheway
Why.. just kick the damn thing

Because it was preseason. The PERFECT time to try things you may NEED to do during the regular season depending on the situation.

Reading this thread was hilarious. Preseason is the time to play players to decide who will be cut from the roster. It's the time to try things you may have to do during the regular season. You try going for it on fourth down. Then you see idiots say "Why didn't we go for the FG?" You practice the 2 point conversion and see people say, "Why didn't we just take the FG?"

Watching such a huge overreaction by those who make this sound like it's our starters on the field and everything is doom and gloom is comedy gold.


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I just watched the first half of the Seattle game and the Browns looked like a rag-tag football team.

I'm especially concerned about the performance of the Browns OLine. I realize most of the guys I'm watching are backups..2nd, 3rd and 4 th rounders..but they are playing against seattle's 2nd,3rd and 4th rounders and their backup team played so much better than the Browns. Seattle was well coached and had better players.

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Both Conklin and Wills will be returning for the regular season. One of a host of reasons that preseason is meaningless.


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In the 2nd half, the Browns offense looked more composed with Huntley at QB than they did with DTR at QB. Can't be sure if it was planned or an optional choice by our QBs, but it looked as though DTR was changing the play at the LOS more often than Huntley.

DTR was trying to communicate those plays to the other players and the offensive line seemed to have difficulty communicating those changes with the other OLinemen. In short, the Browns offense looked unprepared and confused more when DTR changed plays at the LOS.

Huntley seemed to go with the called play and the OLine seemed less confused with Huntley playing QB.

Overall, the Browns offense seems to be be less prepared than the defense. New OC and new OLine coaches are likely part of the reason. Stefanski and his offensive coaching staff have a ton of work to do if they expect to win against the Cowboys.

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I like that DTR changes plays at the line. He also goes through progressions and understands where pressure is coming from and where to get rid of the ball. Huntley is a one read QB, even against third stringers.

I will be pretty frustrated if DTR is traded.


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If you were GM, what would you consider an acceptable trade offer?


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For DTR? I don’t know.

Everyone has a price but in the context of the big picture of this season I think we will need him at some point. You cannot underscore how not good Huntley is. It’s like running PJ Walker back.

Probably my floor would be a 2nd and pray he doesn’t become a starter for the team I am trading him to.

I think I said this in a previous post, and this is not true for every late round pick, but in DTRs case the big difference between him and early round guys are those guys get more chances and more benefit of the doubt.


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I would not trade DTR either. He has upside.


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Originally Posted by WooferDawg
I would not trade DTR either. He has upside.

I wouldn't trade him either, He shows promise and we still don't really know what we have in Watson. Who knows next year DTR may be our starting QB.


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Pretty much agree with all that. My current floor would be a second as well, especially with Watson still being a big, fat unknown.


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Probably my floor would be a 2nd and pray he doesn’t become a starter for the team I am trading him to.

If a team had offered a 2nd for DTR, Berry would have accepted that deal in a heartbeat. Probably the same for a 3rd.


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Everyone knows that nobody would ever offer a 2nd round pick for DTR. Probably not even a third. I mean the kid does show some tangibles that give hope for the future. But that's about it at this juncture. We've watched how the promise of potential has worked out here, or not worked out here as the case has been for the most part, far too often. And that's all it is at this point.

But when setting up an impossible scenario it leaves the door wide open to bash this FO if they take what most would consider a reasonable offer for DTR.

I would hope they hang on to DTR as well. But if the right option to trade him comes along It's not like they would be giving some proven starter away for peanuts.


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Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
If a team had offered a 2nd for DTR, Berry would have accepted that deal in a heartbeat. Probably the same for a 3rd.

And that teams GM would have probably been fired immediately.


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No doubt. I said a couple days ago that Berry would probably budge for a 3rd. That would fall firmly between the guardrails of good business sense.

My real point is that a trade was never happening. Too many unknowns with Watson and the fact that we just value DTR differently. Other teams just look at the black and white and don't care about our gray. Our gray is that we're starting year three of a failed experiment and if things go further south, DTR could be the only way the window doesn't get slammed shut right in our face.

When this bs talk started that the Browns were "willing to trade" I read a few articles from other cities that may be interested. The cut-and-dried sentiment was "meh, why not, DTR hasn't really shown anything but nothing wrong with sending a late round pick for a flyer".


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Probably my floor would be a 2nd and pray he doesn’t become a starter for the team I am trading him to.

If a team had offered a 2nd for DTR, Berry would have accepted that deal in a heartbeat. Probably the same for a 3rd.

I agree with this but the question was what I would do.

But I would love to be a fly on the wall when they were discussing it.

I think you would be surprised by the conversation.


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I'd be surprised if the story holds any validity and that such a conversation ever occurred.


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If a team were to offer a 2nd round pick or even a 3rd why wouldn't they just keep the pick and draft their own guy in the next draft? Possibly a QB that's physically more gifted?

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Because they buy into the hype and upside and want a QB now -- not the chance at a QB next year.


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