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 Tonight. 7 pm PST, 10 pm EST. I doubt the starters will play much. Move if a new forum is started..
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Do we know who is going to be the Browns starting QB yet..?
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We do not know officially.
I expect DW to start. Maybe play two series.
I expect any fully healthy starters to play some except for Myles, Cooper, Bitonio and maybe a few more guys.
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We need reps with the starters - even if it is just handing off and going through the process
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Personally, I'd be quite surprised if Watson starts.
Especially, after the media caught Watson off guard when they asked about him about starting after Stefanski revealed earlier he was going to start Watson and Watson responded by saying, "that's news to me." It was the next day Watson came out of practice with "general soreness." Stefanski has been wishy washy about Watson starting since his initial comments that Watson would play in the third preseason game. They weren't on the same page last year either regarding Watson's status to play.
We'll see.
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Personally, I'd be quite surprised if Watson starts. Same.
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Personally, I'd be quite surprised if Watson starts.
Especially, after the media caught Watson off guard when they asked about him about starting after Stefanski revealed earlier he was going to start Watson and Watson responded by saying, "that's news to me." It was the next day Watson came out of practice with "general soreness." Stefanski has been wishy washy about Watson starting since his initial comments that Watson would play in the third preseason game. They weren't on the same page last year either regarding Watson's status to play.
We'll see. For someone as intelligent as Stefanski, how does this happen?
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Personally, I'd be quite surprised if Watson starts.
Especially, after the media caught Watson off guard when they asked about him about starting after Stefanski revealed earlier he was going to start Watson and Watson responded by saying, "that's news to me." It was the next day Watson came out of practice with "general soreness." Stefanski has been wishy washy about Watson starting since his initial comments that Watson would play in the third preseason game. They weren't on the same page last year either regarding Watson's status to play.
We'll see. For someone as intelligent as Stefanski, how does this happen? He sticks to a schedule. Perhaps, the media asked the question between the time he made the decision/plan and he formally told the team the plan. Stefanski probably asked Watson something along the lines of "are you ready to play on Saturday?" Stefanski could have been being literal while Watson just took it as a question about his health. There's the plan and then there's adjusting the plan based on player health and other factors. Things happen. People change their minds. Watching other teams' projected starters get injured in games that don't count can add some doubt into the equation. In Cleveland, mountains seem to be made out of mole hills at times.
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That’s not an explanation. The answer is it should never happen. You don’t share things with outsiders you don’t first discuss internally. This applies to all jobs, walks of life, etc.
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So you have found yet another nit to pick.
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I am disappointed. I wanted to see him play.
However, I defer to the head coach. He has the pulse and the full picture to make a decision from.
I don't think it is fair for someone like myself to pretend to know more than KS.
With that now being the case my interest in the game goes way down. Something to watch but little to gain from.
Two weeks and it all gets very real.
Overall I am uneasy about where the team is. Given what is available to fans. I have no clue. They have had the time to get ready. I can only hope they are ready.
I feel the defense will be really good. I have no idea about the offense.
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I don't know what's going on with DW. I'm sure KS has a good reason not to play him, but I think by not playing tonight there is more pressure on DW to perform once the season starts. I wanted to see him play a game in our new O and see how it's working but that won't be happening. 1st game national TV at home against Dallas, Tom Brady's 1st game as an analyst. The whole country will be watching. Hope he's both physically AND mentally up to the task!! If not, there will be very heavy criticism by everyone. I wish DW well.
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Overall I am uneasy about where the team is. This.
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I don't know what's going on with DW. I'm sure KS has a good reason not to play him To me, I think it is pretty simple. There is no way this team was going to play DW the way this OL is built for the last preseason game. I don't think it needs to be more complicated than that.
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You could be right and I hope that's all there is to it.
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All well and good. But my butt is going to the home opener. I'm giving him NO room for "rust", "getting back into the groove of things" His ass needs to show up and show out. PROVE the contract.........not some "Oh, my arm is sore" b.s.
Dude needs to earn his contract in SOME way. Being suspended, then being hurt? Give some damn money back if you can't be an all star this year.
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He’s never going to earn his contract. That ship has sailed. He was vastly overrated with the Texans.
The best the Browns can hope for is he stays healthy and is above average. Or is below average and gets hurt.
We have to count on Stefanski coaching his butt off and a strong defense and Watson just not screwing it up.
Who’s excited for the season!?
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Oh, he's "sore", don't play me coach. I'm getting my money no matter what.
Dude better put up. As I said, I don't want to hear "rusty". Nah. Be a good quarterback, or don't. No excuses. You're getting your money, but there's a team involved as well, and a fan base. Sit you ass out all you want IF that's what you want. You go in? Be good. Don't suck.
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I don't think he was overrated with the Texans.
My expectations are not the same as yours.
I am excited for the season. I believe we have a good roster and we are coming off an 11 win season.
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Tonight. 7 pm PST, 10 pm EST. I doubt the starters will play much. Move if a new forum is started.. 10 pm is a little late for me. Since DW isn't playing, maybe I'll just watch a bit of the game, record the rest, then go to bed and watch the rest of the game on Sunday.
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Let's see... our opponents in week one...
With Trey Lance at QB.
The last time Dak took a preseason snap? 2019.
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I don't think he was overrated with the Texans. That may have been true four years ago. He didn't even play during his last season as a Texan. He hasn't played a significant portion of any season since 2020. That's not me trying to predict what he will or won't do this season. It's simply to provide some context and that what you are basing your evaluation of him as a Texan is based on something he accomplished four seasons ago. One would hope you could understand why many are not quite as convinced he is the same now as he was four years ago.
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yeah, this whole training camp/preseason has been shaky IMO. Nobody should feel comfortable going into week 1
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100% fair to question what he has done as a Brown.
I still do not think when he played for the Texans he was overrated.
He was a top five quarterback.
Led the NFL in passing yards with 4,823 in 2020. Set Texans franchise record with 33 passing touchdowns in 2020. That is not overrated.
Both in college and with the Texans DW was a really good quarterback.
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Do we know who is going to be the Browns starting QB yet..? Several articles say that Watson will NOT start. What is wrong with him
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LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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For those of you out of market, it looks like NFL Network will show this game live.
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we have 30 guys not dressing tonight
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This not playing any starters is just plain dumb. We will be behind everyone that did. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a rash of injuries week one since that will be the first time any starters have taken contact
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Maybe, maybe not. Our guys faced contact in the shared practice with the Vikings. Only QB's were exempt from hitting.
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I would imagine having our first live reps against the Cowboys isn't ideal but there's nothing to do about it now
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I hope they turn off this Jets game soon
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I hope they turn off this Jets game soon Did you download the Chrome browser with Ad Block or no?
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oh yes! it worked ... hoping it sticks this way!
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Man we look like straight garbage. I have a feeling we are going to miss Callahan ALOT
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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So much for the third game tune up.
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Every single game this preseason we look like an expansion team
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we've never looked worse in the preseason than the last two weeks
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Are these even professional athletes? Winston only seems to want to throw into triple coverage…
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Outclassed every game . Especially at coaching position
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If this is the dress rehearsal, 0-17
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even though it's a mix of 1/2 stringers, it just seems like our team needs a kick in the butt
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Browns defense was exposed by houston in playoff loss. Dorsey offensive system is based around throwing the ball unfortunately
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our OL has as many penalties as any unit ive watched this preseason
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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we can do without any more Moore runs
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and we go for it on 4th , pass up the FG, and don't get it
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we can do without any more Moore runs Should have been cancelled after last season. Somehow being brought back for a second season. The results were the same in training camp videos.
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At least that series on O was a lot better than the other one.
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Stefanski playcalling in mid season form. Guess the fd kicker doesn’t need the reps live either
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Moore should strictly be a route runner -- he's pretty good at it. Not a gadget guy at all
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I would have liked Hopkins to get a make under his belt
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Proche appears to be our returner
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Seahawks started their starting QB and WR and went straight down for a TD. Ours have sore muscles.
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This offense is going to suck
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DTR seems to get better each time
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Has anyone heard if Conklin and wills are even close to being back? I feel like we’ve heard nothing
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and I've liked Thrash's ability to get open
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Thrash should make the 53.
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I think both OTs are a stretch to play the first game or two ... just my guess
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Just looked at the list of players not expected to play.
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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I feel bad for the guy - he's been banged up
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"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Hopkins puts us on the board .. 7-3
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Man our skill plays lack just that
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tough to be a receiving position if you can't catch
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31 with one of the worst tackles I've seen in a long time
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This team is embarrassing. The whole preseason. Stop with the mouth pieces and fluff pieces and feel good stories. Super Bowl or clean house. It’s time
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31 smells like burnt toast. Stiffed armed. 14-3 Seahags.
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I refuse to watch this embarrassment .. hoping for the best in a few weeks
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Hawks with only 1 3rd down so far. Wow.
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DTR to Thrash for a TD. Hell of a pass!
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Thrash with the TD Beautiful throw by DTR. 14-10
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Finally some life. Thrash has been good, he could get moores reps
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j/c...
Jamari Thrash is approaching Hollywood Higgins level excitement.
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Worst defensive backfield I’ve ever seen
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That was not worthy of an ejection.
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Sure looked like a crap penalty, and an even crappier ejection.
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Wanna beat the Browns? Run screen plays every down. They can’t stop it.
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Sure looked like a crap penalty, and an even crappier ejection. Couldn't agree with you more.
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Is there a worse team than the browns this preseason
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Ventrone should have never been brought back
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We have looked likeno one has read the playbook at all the whole preseason. Sounds like stefanski runs a soft ass camp
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Now Special Teams gives up a TD. Failures in all 3 aspects of the game.
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Browns on pace to give up 40+
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24-10 Seahags after the punt return for a TD. Browns driving at 2 min.
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DTR is horrible on the run. wtf was that
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That was a plus level throw there to Darden
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DTR looks good. Thrash looks good.
24-13. At half. Seahags.
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I bet Eotab is crying cause Metcalf pushed off a tad I bet not. He passed away several months ago.
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DTR should be getting Winston’s reps. He has special moments and pedestrian moments. The pedestrian moments can be cleaned up with more/better reps. I’d rather DTR come in than Winston if Watson goes down.
In terms of the preseason, I don’t think anyone should care about what goes on in the game or the results when mostly backups are playing. The issue is the over babying in camp and the over protecting of starters from preseason games. I don’t really understand the philosophy.
Btw, the Seahawks announcers are insufferable.
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27-13 after a opening drive FG by the Seahags.
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Whoever the RT 61 is, he needs to pack his bags.
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Can Zegura tone down his Fandom and Homer takes
Good gosh he can be over bearing He’s the biggest one, hate hate hate listening to him. There isn’t a single good thing this team has done whole preseason. But guess we can can look forward to Watson first pass pick 6 like last year because preseason is worthless supposedly
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PJ Walker sighting for the Seahags.
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PJ Walker sighting for the Seahags. Walker and Huntley are the same player.
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35 is better than anything else I have seen.
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27-20 Seahags after the TD to Proche. Short field
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I still see same defensive issues in game 3 as game 1
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Ika is a wasted draft pick.
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They ran right thru Ika. 34-20 Seahags.
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Browns on pace to give up 40+ Almost there.
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Ika is a wasted draft pick. Berry seems unable to draft DTs or WRs.
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Darden with a good catch from a nice pass from Huntley. 37 yards. End of 3.
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Ika is a wasted draft pick. He's comically bad. He's a blob.
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Michael Woods with the TD on a nice pass from Huntley, failed 2 pt. Wtf.
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Why.. just kick the damn thing
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Still watching because I have my entire life savings on the Browns to pass for 250+ yards at +140.
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What a pathetic effort on 3rd down
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Ika is a wasted draft pick. Berry seems unable to draft DTs or WRs. Agreed. Ika is very bad. Tillman and Thrash show promise though
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We are really going to miss Callahan this year.
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I want to see Tillman do it in real games.
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Crazy that a coach would kick a fg when he has another down to get the yards. What’s the point of scoring points when you can pretend to outsmart them and kick a fg
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We are really going to miss Callahan this year. Said this earlier, he’s probably the biggest loss of this regime.
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Woods and Huntley with the play of the preseason
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37-33 after another Michael Woods TD.
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I want to see Tillman do it in real games. I do not see a scenario in which Tillman has more than 35 targets on the season barring injury. He had 44 last year and that was pre-Jeudy trade. He's so far down down on the depth chart and there are only so many balls to go around. Cooper>Njoku>Jeudy>Moore> RBs>Tillman/Bell/Thrash>Akins I anticipate 19 receptions for ~200 yards.
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I think a few things might change that could work in Tillman’s favor.
1. We won’t have a running game.
2. There’s a chance he’s actually better than Moore right now so I’d swap those two in your rankings. I’m not high on Moore.
3. There’s a good chance Watson will get hurt. I see Tillman getting more targets from Winston and DTR.
4. Injury to Cooper or Jeudy.
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Moore's biggest problem is we just don't use him. We put him in to run a gadget play. His first sighing of the preseason was running a reverse type play with resulted in no gain at best, probably a loss of 2-3 yards.
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I woke up surprised the game ended that close - although we scored the ultimate garbage TD
Thrash/Woods/Tillman looked good ... the WR room is a strength IMO
Our secondary backups are putrid ... literally a 1999 Browns backup unit
Huntley will never play here again
Our run game is pathetic
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Moore's biggest problem is we just don't use him. We put him in to run a gadget play. His first sighing of the preseason was running a reverse type play with resulted in no gain at best, probably a loss of 2-3 yards. I think Moore’s biggest problem is his size and skillset. His size screams gadget guy. But his skillset is more of an outside guy. He’s a walking contradiction that doesn’t really have a natural position in the NFL.
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How many of those who started yesterday will be in our starting line up against the Cowboy’s?
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Moore's biggest problem is we just don't use him. We put him in to run a gadget play. His first sighing of the preseason was running a reverse type play with resulted in no gain at best, probably a loss of 2-3 yards. I think Moore’s biggest problem is his size and skillset. His size screams gadget guy. But his skillset is more of an outside guy. He’s a walking contradiction that doesn’t really have a natural position in the NFL. I might not disagree. My only point is if you don't give the guys a chance, and put them in a position to succeed, you don't have any idea what you have. But in fairness, I would assume he gets some of those looks in practice.
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Why.. just kick the damn thing Because it was preseason. The PERFECT time to try things you may NEED to do during the regular season depending on the situation. Reading this thread was hilarious. Preseason is the time to play players to decide who will be cut from the roster. It's the time to try things you may have to do during the regular season. You try going for it on fourth down. Then you see idiots say "Why didn't we go for the FG?" You practice the 2 point conversion and see people say, "Why didn't we just take the FG?" Watching such a huge overreaction by those who make this sound like it's our starters on the field and everything is doom and gloom is comedy gold.
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I just watched the first half of the Seattle game and the Browns looked like a rag-tag football team.
I'm especially concerned about the performance of the Browns OLine. I realize most of the guys I'm watching are backups..2nd, 3rd and 4 th rounders..but they are playing against seattle's 2nd,3rd and 4th rounders and their backup team played so much better than the Browns. Seattle was well coached and had better players.
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Both Conklin and Wills will be returning for the regular season. One of a host of reasons that preseason is meaningless.
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In the 2nd half, the Browns offense looked more composed with Huntley at QB than they did with DTR at QB. Can't be sure if it was planned or an optional choice by our QBs, but it looked as though DTR was changing the play at the LOS more often than Huntley.
DTR was trying to communicate those plays to the other players and the offensive line seemed to have difficulty communicating those changes with the other OLinemen. In short, the Browns offense looked unprepared and confused more when DTR changed plays at the LOS.
Huntley seemed to go with the called play and the OLine seemed less confused with Huntley playing QB.
Overall, the Browns offense seems to be be less prepared than the defense. New OC and new OLine coaches are likely part of the reason. Stefanski and his offensive coaching staff have a ton of work to do if they expect to win against the Cowboys.
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I like that DTR changes plays at the line. He also goes through progressions and understands where pressure is coming from and where to get rid of the ball. Huntley is a one read QB, even against third stringers.
I will be pretty frustrated if DTR is traded.
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If you were GM, what would you consider an acceptable trade offer?
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For DTR? I don’t know.
Everyone has a price but in the context of the big picture of this season I think we will need him at some point. You cannot underscore how not good Huntley is. It’s like running PJ Walker back.
Probably my floor would be a 2nd and pray he doesn’t become a starter for the team I am trading him to.
I think I said this in a previous post, and this is not true for every late round pick, but in DTRs case the big difference between him and early round guys are those guys get more chances and more benefit of the doubt.
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I would not trade DTR either. He has upside.
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I would not trade DTR either. He has upside. I wouldn't trade him either, He shows promise and we still don't really know what we have in Watson. Who knows next year DTR may be our starting QB.
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Pretty much agree with all that. My current floor would be a second as well, especially with Watson still being a big, fat unknown.
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Probably my floor would be a 2nd and pray he doesn’t become a starter for the team I am trading him to. If a team had offered a 2nd for DTR, Berry would have accepted that deal in a heartbeat. Probably the same for a 3rd.
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Everyone knows that nobody would ever offer a 2nd round pick for DTR. Probably not even a third. I mean the kid does show some tangibles that give hope for the future. But that's about it at this juncture. We've watched how the promise of potential has worked out here, or not worked out here as the case has been for the most part, far too often. And that's all it is at this point.
But when setting up an impossible scenario it leaves the door wide open to bash this FO if they take what most would consider a reasonable offer for DTR.
I would hope they hang on to DTR as well. But if the right option to trade him comes along It's not like they would be giving some proven starter away for peanuts.
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If a team had offered a 2nd for DTR, Berry would have accepted that deal in a heartbeat. Probably the same for a 3rd. And that teams GM would have probably been fired immediately.
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No doubt. I said a couple days ago that Berry would probably budge for a 3rd. That would fall firmly between the guardrails of good business sense.
My real point is that a trade was never happening. Too many unknowns with Watson and the fact that we just value DTR differently. Other teams just look at the black and white and don't care about our gray. Our gray is that we're starting year three of a failed experiment and if things go further south, DTR could be the only way the window doesn't get slammed shut right in our face.
When this bs talk started that the Browns were "willing to trade" I read a few articles from other cities that may be interested. The cut-and-dried sentiment was "meh, why not, DTR hasn't really shown anything but nothing wrong with sending a late round pick for a flyer".
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Probably my floor would be a 2nd and pray he doesn’t become a starter for the team I am trading him to. If a team had offered a 2nd for DTR, Berry would have accepted that deal in a heartbeat. Probably the same for a 3rd. I agree with this but the question was what I would do. But I would love to be a fly on the wall when they were discussing it. I think you would be surprised by the conversation.
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I'd be surprised if the story holds any validity and that such a conversation ever occurred.
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If a team were to offer a 2nd round pick or even a 3rd why wouldn't they just keep the pick and draft their own guy in the next draft? Possibly a QB that's physically more gifted?
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Because they buy into the hype and upside and want a QB now -- not the chance at a QB next year.
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