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Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie

Assuming they keep Winston, this will be the first time since 2020 that Berry has kept three QBs on the opening 53.


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I think keeping JW and DTR is the prudent way to go. We can't rely on DW after the last 2 years. I'm not saying he won't do well I certainly hope he does but really no one knows for sure.

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Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie

If we trade JW there will be a meltdown (deserved).


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And. . .

If we keep Huntley, there might well be a meltdown. I favor JW as the keeper for that pair. Glad DTR is secured.


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It would b lunacy to trade a guy like JW. A move like that would say we haven't learned from last year. Keep Jw and DTR. We're built to win now and need capable backup QB's.

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Originally Posted by oobernoober
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If we trade JW there will be a meltdown (deserved).
I don't believe a single thing MKC writes..she's a hack. Guess we haven't learned our lesson on DTR.. I'm sorry but Huntley was better than DTR in preseason as a whole. If we get rid of JW then Berry should be fired. Because that would be the stupidest thing he could do. You don't get rid of a guy who's proven to be able to win for the sake of a guy who might have "potential" but was a straight up cluster last year.


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In no way, shape, or form was Huntley better than DTR.

In no way, shape, or form has Huntley been a good pro.

As has been said, you keep Huntley and it’s PJ Walker all over again if he sees the field.


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You keep DTR. He has upside. Huntley has reached his ceiling IMO.

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Originally Posted by Rishuz
As has been said, you keep Huntley and it’s PJ Walker all over again if he sees the field.

It gets rather tiresome debunking this crazy comparison. Yet at the same time it's so ridiculous it's much harder to allow it to be said without pointing out the fallacy of it.....

P.J. Walker threw for 1 td. and 5 int's last year. His completion percentage was 48.6%. His QBR was 52.2.

By contrast Huntley threw for 3 td's and 0 int's. His completion percentage was 58.8% and his QBR was 99.3.

That doesn't make Huntley a great QB. But what it does do is show just how ridiculous it is trying to compare the two as being equal by any measure.


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I actually liked Paden Mitchell


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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As has been said, you keep Huntley and it’s PJ Walker all over again if he sees the field.

It gets rather tiresome debunking this crazy comparison. Yet at the same time it's so ridiculous it's much harder to allow it to be said without pointing out the fallacy of it.....

P.J. Walker threw for 1 td. and 5 int's last year. His completion percentage was 48.6%. His QBR was 52.2.

By contrast Huntley threw for 3 td's and 0 int's. His completion percentage was 58.8% and his QBR was 99.3.

That doesn't make Huntley a great QB. But what it does do is show just how ridiculous it is trying to compare the two as being equal by any measure.

LMAO. He started one game in 2023 and lost.

His other four appearances were mop-up duty in games the Ravens won by a combined 161-31. I bet I could complete a few passes in the 4th, up 37-3.


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Try comparing their career stats and get back to me. The same thing applies. This isn't the Political forum.


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I was a Huntley "fan" if you will. The one year he stepped up during the extended absence of Lamar, he looked fantastic. During that stretch, he made our D look silly (or more likely, our D made him look incredible).

Since then, he's definitely come back down to Earth but has been living off of that stretch in terms of retaining NFL employment.


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I think we all know they aren't going to carry four QB's on the 53 man roster so this certainly isn't a done deal.


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Originally Posted by Pdawg

Keeping four QB's likely means one of them is close to being traded, possibly for a back since we only rostered two. I also thought Heinz would make the cut. Glad to see that Nate Watson made the team. The guy is run stuffing machine.


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Yup, we're calling someone's bluff and one of them will be traded.


I think this might be the highest level of roster stability we've had since the return. For the most part, there are no surprises. There are a handful of new names, but overall each position group largely looks just like it did last year. The closest thing to a complete makeover is probably the linebackers.


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Browns DT Mike Hall Jr. placed on NFL Commissioner’s Exempt List and here’s what’s next: Mary Kay Cabot

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j/c...

New starting LT, Jack Conklin.


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Originally Posted by Milk Man
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New starting LT, Jack Conklin.


I feel way better about that over playing over Hudson. Probably even Wills.

Hudson tries but isn't very good. Wills can be good, but he is slack.


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Foreman is in limbo till they make a decision on the last QB.

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The last time Cleveland had a complete roster set like this one was probably 1987.

I have learned to not have expectations. I have ideas about how we will play but that is all.

Just want to start 1-0. Beat Dallas and then look at the next game.

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I'm not so sure that comment by Conklin actually means anything. Much of that would depend on the question he is addressing. He could have been asked which he would prefer, LT or RT. Which he simply said it didn't matter to him. He could have been asked if he would object to playing LT if asked to do so. His answer would apply well to either of those questions. I'm not so sure there is some cryptic, hidden meaning to his comment.


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Conklin at LT sounds right


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Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life
Conklin at LT sounds right

It does? I thought that experiment was done a while ago and there was a definitive answer. Also, I don't like us disrupting any more positions that we need to. Conklin is a legit RT and Dawand Jones is his backup (which we'll need because Conklin's knees are toast). I get the feeling that Wills (as unexciting as it is) will return in time to be our LT.


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If Wills can't go is it feasible to try Jones at LT so Conklin can stay at RT?

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Andrew Berry drafts DTs as well as he drafts WRs
What was he thinking when he drafted Siaki Ika?
He barely made plays at Baylor and made less
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We can’t keep DJ on the bench unless wills and Conklin can both play. I might even be tempted to start Dawand at LT and Conk at his usual spot. We don’t necessarily HAVE to have Wills at LT at the start of the season.


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Originally Posted by FATE
This is you "debunking a fallacy? đŸ¤£

He’s probably actually never seen him play. You know actually use his eyes. Not that he would know what he’s looking at.

There’s no greater source of comedic value for my day.


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I was just referring to if Wills can't suit up - Conklin is a better LT option than Hudson


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Originally Posted by lampdogg
We can’t keep DJ on the bench unless wills and Conklin can both play. I might even be tempted to start Dawand at LT and Conk at his usual spot. We don’t necessarily HAVE to have Wills at LT at the start of the season.

Conk played LT in college and some in the pro's. I don't see any way they all of a sudden stick Jones at LT.


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I don’t know about that peen. It’s been a lot of time since Conklin played college football. He is slower I assume, with age and an injury history, but if I’m proven wrong that’s ok.

I just want the best OL we can put on the field.


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Originally Posted by Rishuz
In no way, shape, or form was Huntley better than DTR.

In no way, shape, or form has Huntley been a good pro.

As has been said, you keep Huntley and it’s PJ Walker all over again if he sees the field.
By every measurable statistic he was. People love them some DTR, he’s not good, he’s not going to be good. He doesn’t have nfl durability. My point was more about DTR being the number 2 and getting rid of Winston. That would be dumb unless you had another vet lined up. Huntley is a lot better than Walker, that’s a silly comparison. It’s also moot. There’s no way we keep 4. I honest don’t care who qb 3/4 is. But putting your hope in DTR to be the number 2 after last year is silly. You say Huntley hasn’t been a good pro, which is true. But he’s been serviceable, DTR has not. Bottom line is Watson, Winston, insert name here.


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I tend too agree. I won't say he is no good...I see Tyrod Taylor upside. Maybe Colt McCoy.

He is better than Chuck Frye and Speurgon Wynn.


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