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Winston has always been a guy with a WOW factor.

Sometimes it is a WOW!! Other times it is a WOW? At least he has been able to move the ball throughout his career. I think I would get him on a nice 3 year deal and keep him as the bridge to someone we draft either this draft or the next. This years draft is pretty deep at QB. We won't have to reach at the position if we don't get fixed on one player. There are some guys further down the list who i think can be solid NFL starters.

I agree. Wish Watson well. Hope he heals fully. Never want to see him in our uniform again

Bone you know what the bottom line is and has been forever? We don't have an elite QB. Not since Bernie have we had consistent above average QB play. When we got some from Baker, Joe and Jamius this past game our Browns looked like a real contender. We could use a position upgrade here or there what team couldn't but with us the main perpetual problem is the QB. If we decide to draft one next April in the 1st round, I would bring in people outside the organization for input. Peyton Manning comes to mind and there are others. It's sad because this team when healthy and with above average QB play can compete with anybody. I question our FO trade for DW with all the baggage but from a talent aspect I can understand why it was done. Everyone, including me, felt that he was an upgrade over Baker. We were wrong. I really feel Jimmy Haslam is doing all he can to bring a winner here. He gambled and made a huge mistake.

I hope we can somehow cut him before the off-season even ramps up. I don't want to have any articles, lingering dialogue, questions, etc. Just rip the bandaid off and go in another direction

I don't think he would splinter it. Oddly, Flacco is the one who splintered it. The team finally saw what they were missing.

If he comes back next year things would only splinter if we started to play the guy and he didn't ball out by the 6th play he ran. If he comes back, he will be like the dunce of the class sitting over in the corner.

The more likely deal is we will PUP him or IR him out for the season, then just cut him the next.....maybe work an injury settlement for that season and just let the guy retire rather than set-up and break down meeting rooms..

Funny thing, I was all set to NOT watch this game. I decided that no way would the Browns have a chance in hell to win.

Four primary differences I wonder about.

1. Winston under center

2 Dorsey calling plays

3. Chubb getting more touches ( I do understand bringing him along slowly)

4. Center of the Oline playing better

Not sure if it was one of those things, all of those things, none of those things or just the thought of winning for Jimmy!

But whatever it was, don't stop... That was a tight game but fun to watch. Give me more of that please.

How can we have looked so bad the first 7 games and completely turn it around in a week? We looked like the way we played last season. IMO it's not just DW's bad play. I don't think the team WANTS to play FOR him.

I'm so sick of mid-season "savior" quarterbacks.

I wish we could just have a proper plan in place at the start of a season for once.

j/c

Haven't logged in since the "issue"

Thoughts: It's amazing what even competent qb play can do for a team.

This year, I haven't seen hardly ANY passes completed over 5-10 yards. Until this game.

Amazing to me how our O line suddenly "improved". I guess when a qb can drop back and fire the ball, it makes the o line look better. When a qb can find an open reciever and throw the ball, instead of stand there and then run into a sack - everyone looks better. Weird.

Our receivers. You know, the ones some people said could never get open? Dang, they got open. (of course, as video shows over the first 6 weeks, those guys were open then, to. But the ball never got to them)

Now, we see what even AVERAGE qb play can do for a team. JW is not some savior. He had some picks that, fortunately, weren't picked. Of course, we could say the same about Lamar - let's just say there were a lot of picks that didn't get picked.

Bottom line, the entire TEAM looked different with JW at qb. Take that for what it's worth.

I'm sorry you had an "issue".

You are a BADDDDD MAN

This game exposed the real problem at the core of our struggles and it's pretty much inarguable at this point.

I'm going to try to get around to rewatching both this game and the previous one. As I've said before, I am so very intrigued by this little experiment we've unintentionally run here.

I'm still trying to get over the fact that some felt that the Watson situation wasn't the main source of the team's woes to this point.

you're new here huh..lol That kinda goes for alot of things with this team. Their motto should be "There's never time to do it right, but always time to do it over"

The rhythm was just so different. The cadence. Everything was just so much better.

There's a tweet that I'll have to go find, but Gregg Williams mentioned how Winston consistently hit his plant foot. It made it easier on the linemen, and the cadence synced up with the route progressions, too. I'm no football expert, but it's something you do notice when you rewatch the game. Watson really struggled with it.

He also got rid of the ball on time. Another issue Watson had. Now, sometimes Jameis got rid of the ball after misreading the coverage, but luckily he escaped without a pick. You could say the same for Jackson though, too.

I just saw the game on NFL channel; only heard the radio broadcast. Great win again! We looked crisp. Still stupid penalties, but overall it looked like intentional football. Not swooning over JW after one very good enough game, but it was a damned sight better than the crap we have put out to this point. Hard to quantify, but were looked crisp. The sideline was engaged, head in the game. We looked eager. We tries harder. The same non-tacklers showed up. The lazy were not as evident as often. We gave up chunks, but overall survived an opponent on our home turf, won for Donovan, scored more, and looked competitive.
This game was fun to watch. I am eager for this Sunday. Couldn't have cared less for the rest of the season. I would have watched out of habit, loyalty, boredom. And been angry probably.
Great win.

j/c

Anyone hear JW's pregame talk? Play for the name on your back. Play for the name on your helmet. Well, we ain't got no decal." https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3Zo2aPBcdpk

j/c

I'll speak in the most general terms I can:

1. This team looked like a team on Sunday.

a. O players on the sidelines boosted up D players as they left the field.
b. Same was true, the other way.

2. Energy was palpable. Positive vibe was evident to anyone watching the game, whether on TV or in the stands.

3. On D, tackling was crisper, more sure (this has been a pain in my backside all season)

4. Special Teams handled their business.

5. Fan gameday experience: Sunday's Browns made me feel the way 2023 Browns did: no matter what happens next, it's worthwhile to watch the entire game. No game is out of reach, and anything might happen.



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After holding back my opinions on the DW acquisition for the last 2 years, I'll speak out now.
I believe that the Deshaun Watson acquisition is about the only thing that could derail a 2024 CLE bid for a deep post-season appearance any more efficiently.

I may not play pro ball, but I do understand 'team psychology.' After all, I've been playing on a 65+ team roster who performs in front of the public for almost 40 years. Players know who helps The Team, and who doesn't. We'll never shirk our professional duties, but we'll prob never give our all for someone who doesn't inspire us to be the best versions of ourselves. Guys who wear NFL uniforms are not so different than guys who wear tuxedoes on Game Day.

On Sunday, I saw a Browns team that looked nothing like the woe begotten bunch that took the field for almost 2 months. A team that looked/played like those 1-15/0-16 years.

All it seemed to take, was one change in the lineup.

I hope the best for Deshaun Watson's health/recovery... but I won't miss him when he's finally off the CLE roster.
After 40 years, I remember guys like him


After all... how can I miss you if you were never really here?

Jameis is a natural born leader and appears to be a great man as well. The type of individual you want at QB representing your team. He is EVERYTHING Watson wishes he could be. You can tell the other guys on the team really care about Jameis and play with an extra effort\zeal when he's in.

I think we should develop him for long term.

"After 40 years, I remember guys like him..." the way I remember players like Braylon Edwards and Kellen Winslow 2: more hype than help.

I don't know if it was not wanting to play for him, but the lack of play at the QB did bring down the level of play at other positions.

I think we need to cool our jets on Winston. It was 1 game (against a sneaky-bad pass defense, allegedly). I'm hoping he can be a marginal improvement over Flacco (age and arm), but we really caught lightning in a bottle with Flacco last year so I'm really trying to temper expectations of doing that again.

He's not someone you hitch your franchise to - as Tampa learned. He does work hard and puts in his best, for sure, but he's not THE guy. However, the difference going from Watson to him has been astounding, and I don't care if we're just talking about one game.

That's quite true. At this point in his career on any given day you may see "the best of Winston" or the "worst of Winston". What we saw last week may not have been the best of Winston but it was neighborhood adjacent.

We need a bridge QB. JW is as good as anyone in that role.

Bone, in everyone's life problems arise. The next step is how you go about solving those problems. If you can't do it yourself and are not sure about it, you look for help. That's where our FO is at now with the QB position. This organization hasn't been able to get it right at QB for over 30 years no matter who was making the decisions. They should step back, be humble and get the some outside help. That would be the prudent way to go at this point. It's a shame because when healthy and with just decent QB play this team could go far.