I still want that report though. How could it be "inappropriate" to release those findings? I think we all know the answer...
I understood it was SOP to not release it if they aren't members of the House. Is that incorrect?
I honestly don't know. Assuming I understand your quesion correctly, it could create a murky situation considering he was a member when the investigation commenced.
I believe it was said when he resigned it meant the investigation stopped. My guess he realized once he got in front of the Senate everything is back on the table.
Yeah I know it meant the investigation itself stopped, but I don't know what the SOP is in terms of disclosures and releases of what has already been done, especially for something where there is already a record.
I'm with you on the second part. I also think he realized he wouldn't get the job when Senators told him in the back room that they would vote "no." That seemed pretty apparent just from some of their reactions to the news of the appointment.
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I was talking to a trump supporter today and she said Trump will fix everything that’s wrong with America especially education. I said “we’ll see.” And sarcastically said. “shutting down the department of education should fix it real good.” She agreed. This is where we’re at. Murica.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
Yeah I know it meant the investigation itself stopped, but I don't know what the SOP is in terms of disclosures and releases of what has already been done, especially for something where there is already a record.
I'm with you on the second part. I also think he realized he wouldn't get the job when Senators told him in the back room that they would vote "no." That seemed pretty apparent just from some of their reactions to the news of the appointment.
There's rumors there were 4 that said they would not confirm, so unless you had a Dem defector to cover....
Gaetz with an ethics investigation in the House is offered a job that causes him to resign then withdraws from consideration for that job.
So Trump got Gaetz out of the House and DeSantis will now pick a replacement for him and the investigation details still won't be released.
Very interesting move.
It’s sketchy as hell. No more info on him being with and trafficking under age girls. And we’ll probably never see it, just like the Epstein tapes and Diddy tapes. Way too many uber rich elites involved. DJT is rumored to be on those tapes, so we’ll never see those either. Then when you realize that Trump, Hegseth, Gaetz, and RFK all have sexual allegations against them in their past, it seems to be a thing with MAGA under Trump. It’s disgusting to me, but almost 50% voted for Trump knowing he lost his case against EJC, knowing about his going into girls dressing rooms on TEEN pageants, knowing he was a close associate of Epstein, knowing how he talked about his own daughter on Stern’s show, knowing how he thinks he can do whatever he wants to women because he’s an elite, and knowing he’s had many allegations against him over the years just dismissed ot of hand by his followers as “Fake News”…
While it sounds like a recipe for putting a deviant in the oval, who then surrounds himself with other deviants, might be off putting for the “moral majority”, “the party of law and order”, “this is a Christian country” advocates, and just general “decent good people”, it seems like they put those values aside to pwn the libs.
With MAGA’s acceptance of that crap, the love of dictators crap, and all the hate speech against anyone who doesn’t fall in line for Trump crap; it’s no wonder the country is so divided. Half of America can’t believe how far we’re falling. Then a few years ago, MAGA started calling all dems pedophiles. Trump and his associates have a tendency to project whatever they fear you finding out about them on onto their rivals… things that make you say “Hmm?”
FAFO karma will decide how this works out in the long run, but I for one NEVER thought I’d see trash like this in our highest offices, or that they’d get there on a mountain of lies and deceit, to inflict another billionaire tax break with it’s financial fallout hitting the poorest of us the hardest, and try to install their sickening hand maid’s tale fascist government agenda. I hope it works out for all those good decent and honest Christian folk…
When I served under Reagan, if you had told me this is where we’d be going into 2024, there is zero way I would have believed it.
Christian nation- are you kidding me. We lead the world in porn production- don't know what percentage of our population WORK in sex industries, but got to be "above average" and we have high numbers in unwed births, cohabitation isn't even considered indecent, and societal norms are so liberal as to be NON- existent. And some claim we are a Christian nation-- really.
PS- check the happiness index of nations of world......we are not among the happiest.....wonder why?
"You've never lived till you've almost died, life has a flavor the protected will never know" A vet or cop
He signed a trade agreement with Canada and Mexico. He bragged about how great that trade agreement was. Now he has threatened to break the very agreement with them that he himself made. And then you wonder why the world can't take America at their word. If you have an agreement in place with us it's worth no more than the paper it's written on.
But then again with as much lumber as we import from Canada, the price of paper will cost more soon. So will the cost of building new homes. So there's that.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
He signed a trade agreement with Canada and Mexico. He bragged about how great that trade agreement was. Now he has threatened to break the very agreement with them that he himself made. And then you wonder why the world can't take America at their word. If you have an agreement in place with us it's worth no more than the paper it's written on.
But then again with as much lumber as we import from Canada, the price of paper will cost more soon. So will the cost of building new homes. So there's that.
I find it very interesting that this new report on Trump’s case being dismissed does not mention that it was dismissed without prejudice. This means it can be brought again when Trump leaves office! Smith for the W, unless the cheeto takes a dirt nap.
He signed a trade agreement with Canada and Mexico. He bragged about how great that trade agreement was. Now he has threatened to break the very agreement with them that he himself made. And then you wonder why the world can't take America at their word. If you have an agreement in place with us it's worth no more than the paper it's written on.
But then again with as much lumber as we import from Canada, the price of paper will cost more soon. So will the cost of building new homes. So there's that.
MAGA FAFO NATION: Enjoy them tariffs! Peen enjoy that stock market! Enjoy losing your Christmas bonuses to corps needing to prepare for massive cost increases! Auto industry, enjoy those EV cutback layoffs! Oh and when he deports 40% of agricultural workers, the majority of hospitality service workers enjoy the collapse of our economy. Can’t wait to see the price of gas and eggs in 25!
Team Blue, buy gold. Swish, you might want to consider selling those rentals while the market is still up, because if he lands any of this, the housing bubble will burst and property prices will fall. Why? The economy is going to tank, people will lose their homes, housing affordability will have to be addressed, and Trump doesn’t care about housing affordability. And that’s only the bits we know so far, no telling how bad we will tank… If those 2 trillion in cuts include the proposed $512 Billion that congress failed to reauthorize, then veterans benefits will cease being funded including VA medical (not sure where disability will fall, but seems safe for now). Here is a list and a link to what they propose to cut:
Programs with expired funding in 2024* The federal government last year spent about $516 billion on programs whose Congressional authorization has expired. Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy say they want to cut unauthorized spending through their Department of Government Efficiency.
Program How much $ in $Billions
Veterans' health care $113 Opioid treatment and drug development $48 State department, foreign affairs programs $38 Housing assistance $37 Justice Department, domestic violence $35 Education Department, K-12 funding $29 NASA $25 Health care and student loan programs $23 International security programs $14 Head Start $12 National defense programs $11 Workforce development $10 PACT Act $9 Child care funding $9 Higher education funding $8 FAA $7 Immigration and Nationality Act $7 Energy policy $7 National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration $6 State housing grants $6 Helping Families Save Their Homes Act $4 Other spending, including water infrastructure and health care $53
And one of the most worrying things is that all of this does not have to happen to kill our economy, anyone of those will cause a HUGE recession, possibly a depression, the likes we’ve never seen before… as T dog might put it… smh.
He signed a trade agreement with Canada and Mexico. He bragged about how great that trade agreement was. Now he has threatened to break the very agreement with them that he himself made. And then you wonder why the world can't take America at their word. If you have an agreement in place with us it's worth no more than the paper it's written on.
But then again with as much lumber as we import from Canada, the price of paper will cost more soon. So will the cost of building new homes. So there's that.
Let's see if they actually come to pass. Most of the time that hammer is used to get what you really want. I am sure if Mexico and to whatever extent Canada start to reform the cause for this threat, we get what we really want.
We want to stop the influx of drugs and illegals from entering the country.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
What is this new "threat" that the Canadian border poses? This must be some new fear tactic the GOP has created. For years it's always been the southern border for you guys. So now instead of America strengthening their borders trump is threatening our neighbors to do the job for him? I never heard a word about the northern border until trump just made an excuse to target Canada as well.
Maybe it's to keep seniors from getting their prescriptions in Canada to save money? I mean after all, somebody has to protect big pharma.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
So you don't think that over 60% of the vegetables and over 50% of the fruit Americans eat that come from Mexico having a 25% tariff placed on them will effect their prices? Can you explain what would cause you to think that?
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
My recollection is that we did have tariffs on things like steel coming from Canada. IIRC, the price of steel shot up over 30% until he and Trudeau reached some type of negotiation and then they dropped again.
Happy Thanksgiving, Keith.
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We had tariffs virtually his entire first term. How did they hurt the inflation numbers then??
Ask the farmers who had to get bailed out. And the tax dollars that were used to do so.
Prices for food rose during his term until CoVid slammed the economy. And, of course, pent-up demand is the excuse for food prices rising during Biden’s term. Some of that is true. More of it is, imo, because producers wanted to clawback “lost” revenue and so the middlemen aka large grocery companies engaged in the same behavior. In addition, if producers, meaning big AG, maintain gross margin percentage then and cost increases will automatically resort in higher dollar levels of gross profit.
The difference this time is that Canada and Mexico are our largest trading partners. There are a lot of products imported that will hit consumers that voted thinking the orange imbecile would lower food prices.
Thanks 05!! I hope you and your family have an enjoyable thanksgiving as well. The end of your answer says, in the end there was no inflationary impact. We know this because even though Biden said inflation was over 9% when he took office, we know it was 1-2% during trumps time in office.
05, I don’t think Trump used tariffs solely for economic reasons. He uses them to “persuade” someone to do something he wants. For example, while there are contradictory reports, it will not be surprising if negotiations with Mexico go something like this. Ok madam President, there is gonna be a 25% tariff on your goods crossing our border, but, if you cut off the flow of illegals crossing your southern border I think we can let that tariff slide. What do you say??
Watching the lions play and I have a sneaking suspicion they are gonna beat us to the Super Bowl.
Sorry but if you pick and choose sectors there will be inflation in something all the time. Facts are that year over year Trump inflation was 2.1%, 1.9%, 2.3% and 1.4%. To compare while I do not know the inflation for current year Biden’s best previously was 3.4%. So clearly the tariffs did not push overall inflation to excessive levels.
It is interesting that tariffs are one of the few departures from republican orthodoxy Trump has. As I said early er it will not surprise me if he accomplishes a number of other goals with the tariff threat. It would be great to see most of our manufacturing needs brought back on shore. Using tariffs to affect products coming from overseas, reducing taxes for companies bringing production back and eliminating some of the needless regulatory burden can help accomplish that. During Covid when we realized many of our needed meds come from a country that wants to defeat us, that got my attention. We need to change that.
He signed a trade agreement with Canada and Mexico. He bragged about how great that trade agreement was. Now he has threatened to break the very agreement with them that he himself made. And then you wonder why the world can't take America at their word. If you have an agreement in place with us it's worth no more than the paper it's written on.
But then again with as much lumber as we import from Canada, the price of paper will cost more soon. So will the cost of building new homes. So there's that.
Let's see if they actually come to pass. Most of the time that hammer is used to get what you really want. I am sure if Mexico and to whatever extent Canada start to reform the cause for this threat, we get what we really want.
We want to stop the influx of drugs and illegals from entering the country.
While that's true, I mean that we want to stop the influx of Drugs and Illegals, I guess you hadn't heard that both have dropped pretty well. That from the President of Mexico. Who by the way, Trump lied about the other day after their call. Go on X, Find the Mexico presidents account and read for your self what she wrote to Trump after their phone call., Don't believe me, go read it for yourself.
And if Trump is using Tariffs as a Hammer to the head of other countries, why would he and his admin say that out loud. That's stupid. Now they know it.. and they know they can ignore it., Like I said, stupid
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Sorry but if you pick and choose sectors there will be inflation in something all the time. Facts are that year over year Trump inflation was 2.1%, 1.9%, 2.3% and 1.4%. To compare while I do not know the inflation for current year Biden’s best previously was 3.4%. So clearly the tariffs did not push overall inflation to excessive levels.
Yet none of you ever thanked Obama for the wonderful economy trump inherited from him when he came into office.
Just like you refuse to mention that post covid inflation was global. That 179 nations suffered from the post covid economy. It had nothing to do with Bidenomics. And now that inflation is below 3% none of you will ever admit that once trump gets it below 2% he only improved inflation 1% while Biden took it from 9% down to below 3%. That's because facts are not your friend.
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It is nice that Jimmy Carter's 2nd term is about to end.
Romans 10:9 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and believe in thy heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."
Romans 10:9 "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and believe in thy heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."
He signed a trade agreement with Canada and Mexico. He bragged about how great that trade agreement was. Now he has threatened to break the very agreement with them that he himself made. And then you wonder why the world can't take America at their word. If you have an agreement in place with us it's worth no more than the paper it's written on.
But then again with as much lumber as we import from Canada, the price of paper will cost more soon. So will the cost of building new homes. So there's that.
Biden just doubled the tariff on soft lumber from Canada. This is the second time.
The first time was mid-2021 during the pandemic. Supply chains were already choked, everything was in short supply. The tariffs caused prices to escalate beyond anything ever seen. Shortages and price increases devastated the homebuilding industry, everybody just chalked it up to "because COVID".
Less than a year later, Biden lowered the tariff to less than what it was in the first place. Go figure. The talking heads presented a story that he was working hard to lower homebuilding costs and came up with this genius idea all on his own. Fact was, the National Association of Home Builders was applying constant pressure and making sure it made it to the parts of the media that actually reported news.
This past August, Biden doubled them again. The talking heads said it will create American jobs.
Part of this is some fascination Biden obviously has with making Trudeau his b*tch. He also banned PEI (Prince Edward Island) potatoes during the pandemic. Trudeau begged and begged and even made a rare trip to Washington. Biden pimp-slapped him and sent him back to Canada. Farmers in Canada were forced to destroy hundreds of millions of pounds of potatoes because they couldn't find trade partners... with food prices soaring... in the middle of a pandemic.
The panic-porn over tariffs definitely doesn't match some of the crazy that nobody seemed top care about over the past four years.
My recollection is that we did have tariffs on things like steel coming from Canada. IIRC, the price of steel shot up over 30% until he and Trudeau reached some type of negotiation and then they dropped again.
Happy Thanksgiving, Keith.
Yep. Prices rose as much as 33%. This led to an agreement between Trump and Trudeau that ending the tariffs would be a win for both countries. Later Canada imposed a 25% tariff on steel from China, which was also a win for both countries. This paved the way for USMCA, which was obviously a win for all three countries.
He signed a trade agreement with Canada and Mexico. He bragged about how great that trade agreement was. Now he has threatened to break the very agreement with them that he himself made. And then you wonder why the world can't take America at their word. If you have an agreement in place with us it's worth no more than the paper it's written on.
But then again with as much lumber as we import from Canada, the price of paper will cost more soon. So will the cost of building new homes. So there's that.
Let's see if they actually come to pass. Most of the time that hammer is used to get what you really want. I am sure if Mexico and to whatever extent Canada start to reform the cause for this threat, we get what we really want.
We want to stop the influx of drugs and illegals from entering the country.
While that's true, I mean that we want to stop the influx of Drugs and Illegals, I guess you hadn't heard that both have dropped pretty well. That from the President of Mexico. Who by the way, Trump lied about the other day after their call. Go on X, Find the Mexico presidents account and read for your self what she wrote to Trump after their phone call., Don't believe me, go read it for yourself.
And if Trump is using Tariffs as a Hammer to the head of other countries, why would he and his admin say that out loud. That's stupid. Now they know it.. and they know they can ignore it., Like I said, stupid
His hope is that the negotiations start now and things don't have to wait until he is actually in office. Trudeau was in Florida to meet with the President a few days ago. It wasn't just to get some sun and attend one of the dinners. As long as the dialogue has started and heading to a fair settlement, I doubt that sanctions start day one.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
And trump plans to increase those tariffs 25% more. He'll see Biden's increase and raise him 25% more. And your point is?
And in doing so will break the very USMCA trade agreement you just touted. That's how the world is learning you can never trust a grifter. Their word isn't worth the paper it's written on.
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And trump plans to increase those tariffs 25% more. He'll see Biden's increase and raise him 25% more. And your point is?
And in doing so will break the very USMCA trade agreement you just touted. That's how the world is learning you can never trust a grifter. Their word isn't worth the paper it's written on.
Wanna bet?
Name the price.
Pretty much everything you've posted is that Trump will tack on 25 to everything from lumber to Canada Dry ginger ale. You know it's not true, the media you consume knows it isn't true, everyone reading knows it isn't true. But speaking with any semblance of discernment doesn't sell papers. Daddy's back so it's full-on panic in every blurb.
So he is just lying again? I can't say that would surprise me and it's nice to see you admit it for a change. So trump says this is all about a secure border. Can you tell me exactly how that applies to Canada or is it just more BS trump made up again?
I love how you call reporting what trump actually said he was going to do as "panic". He is the one who claimed he was going to do this. But that's the lame method some of you try to use on the weak minded to shut them up. Nothing he could do would panic me. I'm an old white guy that lives in a red state. He's not after me. So are you admitting he's a liar then?
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Yes, he's just lying. Lying like when Biden said he would end fossil fuels.
It's called negotiation, and tariffs are a strong tactic. I know you don't want to talk about that though, that's not #orangemanbad enough. That deals with reality instead of forecasting the future with an imaginary crystal ball. That's a nuanced conversation -- we'll have none of that here. Which is obvious, since 'Peen has mentioned it several times and been mocked and ridiculed.
How wouldn't this apply to Canada? They've been a sanctuary country.
Why has Trudeau said they have an immigration problem over the past few weeks?
Why has Trudeau admitted he's "made mistakes"?
Why has the Canadian government announced plans to cut immigration via its permanent residency stream by 20% and impose restrictions on employers seeking temporary worker permits?
Part of the effort to find solidarity in North America is eliminating the welcome mat to the north as well as the south.
You're making this way harder than this needs to be, but I think we all know why.
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