They can cost nearly 100,000 a piece to manufacture. Does the Ford EV you where referring to cost that? I thought that number was around 77k a piece. But moving the goal posts is your specialty here.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
They can cost nearly 100,000 a piece to manufacture. Does the Ford EV you where referring to cost that? I thought that number was around 77k a piece. But moving the goal posts is your specialty here.
I didn't move anything. 🤣 You suck at reading.
I posted the article, commented on the article, explained it to you, and you're still talking gibberish.
Talk to OCD, you two are experts in mindless rhetoric and may actually understand each other.
Sometimes hard to tell. EVs fall under climate change talk, which is definitely a "toe the line" subject. You can endorse them 100 times, as soon as you say "hey, what about battery waste?" you're a conspiracy-theorist-climate-denier.
I love EVs. I don't love 10 BILLION dollar gov't contracts for EVs, especially when the contractor has never built a truck before and, as expected, fails epically. If you've read some comments above, you already know why I'm typing this now.
Yeah the wording is everything. Saying that trump raped her when a jury made no such determination of rape left the door wide open for a defamation suit.
However had Stephanopoulos’ have stated that the judge in the case said that what trump did to her was rape under many definitions of the law and was substantially true it would have been accurate.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
They can cost nearly 100,000 a piece to manufacture. Does the Ford EV you where referring to cost that? I thought that number was around 77k a piece. But moving the goal posts is your specialty here.
I didn't move anything. 🤣 You suck at reading.
I posted the article, commented on the article, explained it to you, and you're still talking gibberish.
Talk to OCD, you two are experts in mindless rhetoric and may actually understand each other.
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Originally Posted by PerfectSpiral
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Does a F1 piston cost $32 million?
They can cost nearly 100,000 a piece to manufacture. Does the Ford EV you where referring to cost that? I thought that number was around 77k a piece. But moving the goal posts is your specialty here.
I didn't move anything. 🤣 You suck at reading.
I posted the article, commented on the article, explained it to you, and you're still talking gibberish.
Talk to OCD, you two are experts in mindless rhetoric and may actually understand each other.
It's an opinion piece, but I heartily agree with it. Dems are probably poised now to have their own version of the 2016 MAGA Revolution. If that happens, I hope it goes the right way, although pissed off voters usually don't do that, as we've seen...
Opinion - Democrats have learned nothing from their election loss Max Burns, opinion contributor
For the better part of two years, Democrats told voters that their country was on the precipice of disaster. Winning in November was imperative, party leaders insisted. Failure would bring catastrophe, not only for America’s democratic institutions but for the economy and working-class people as well.
In normal circumstances, a party that fell short of preventing a crisis like that would be expected to engage in real introspection about what went wrong. Leadership changes would be expected. Like Republicans in the aftermath of 1960 or even 2008, the party would radically re-evaluate the decisions that led to this moment.
Not so in this Democratic Party, where long-time leaders are trudging forward as if nothing happened. From former Harris campaign staffers dissociating in the press to Capitol Hill leadership elections that reject even the premise that anything should change, Democrats are choosing to close their eyes to structural problems at the top of their party. Accountability, it seems, is for other people.
That won’t fix anything.
Recent media interviews reveal party elites who see themselves more as passive observers than as the Democratic Party’s change agents. That’s hardly reassuring to voters who are depending on Democrats to get it together and mount a focused campaign to take back Congress in 2026.
On Monday, Kamala Harris deputy campaign manager Rob Flaherty lamented to Semafor that Democrats were “losing hold of culture.” In other words, Democrats had no response to Donald Trump’s nonstop digital and alternative media blitz — especially his appearance on Joe Rogan’s hugely influential podcast. Flaherty acknowledged that “the institutions by which Democrats have historically had the ability to influence culture are losing relevance.” So long, cable news.
But as Harris’s digital guru, shouldn’t Flaherty have acted on these insights during the campaign? The men and women at the top of the VP’s doomed campaign understood that Trump was making inroads into the Democratic coalition by leveraging YouTube influencers like Theo Von and podcasters like Rogan. Yet they deliver their post-mortem explanations for Harris’s inaction in the passive voice, as if they were not the decision-makers in the room.
I’m not trying to beat up on Flaherty personally. He seems like a thoughtful and introspective guy, and arguably more influential advisers like Jennifer Palmieri also seemed inert in the moment. And at least Flaherty and Palmieri seem self-aware; the same can’t be said for Democrats’ elected leaders, who have largely brushed off any sense of responsibility for the party’s failed efforts to hold the House and Senate. The last few weeks have offered plenty of examples of how divorced Washington reality is from that of the angry voters they serve.
The same Democrats who oversaw last month’s bruising electoral loss have not only returned to their leadership positions, they are more firmly embedded than ever. Just ask Sen. Chuck Schumer, who was unanimously (!) reelected to his role as Democratic leader despite helping author a Senate campaign strategy that cost his party the majority. Or don’t ask him: Schumer has so far avoided answering any tough questions from the press about what went wrong, what he’s learned or what he plans to change going forward.
Things aren’t much better in the House, where Nancy Pelosi and the Democratic Old Guard is leading the charge to stop the next generation of party lawmakers from claiming committee leadership roles. That’s most visible in the battle to become the Oversight Committee’s ranking Democrat, which spilled out into the open after Pelosi began organizing votes against Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Ocasio-Cortez, 35, lost on Tuesday against 74-year-old Gerry Connolly, by a vote of 131-84.
The result has been yet another schism between the base and the elites, with rank-and-file voters left to wonder why the party’s most visible young voices are once again being kicked to the side in favor of the same crop of stalwart septuagenarians. Democrats’ status quo leadership elections would be understandable for a party that outperformed expectations. But this is a party that just lost the White House, the Senate and blew a real opportunity to reclaim the House.
Instead of listening to demoralized and frustrated Democratic voters, the party elders chose to protect leadership that has lost the confidence of the people. If the party has learned a lesson from the debacle of Nov. 5, it sure isn’t acting like it.
Last month’s elections proved that voters aren’t willing to wait around while Democrats get the message that it’s time for a change. The sooner Democrats realize that, the better for the party — and our democracy.
Blue ostriches on crack float on milkshakes between the sidewalk titans of gurglefitz. --YTown
That's a much more eloquent version of what I've been saying ever since the election. Democrats are very poor at messaging or understanding the message people care most about which they should be sending.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
If I had a dog in the race, I'd probably be more annoyed about them calling it a cover-up. If they were trying to cover up his mental decline... wow.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
Aside from the main stream media, the the liberals.................is anyone surprised by this "revelation"?
It was obvious.
It was fairly obvious they (they being the democratic leadership and media) were trying to hide the fact Biden was clearly on the decline. They didn't do a good job hiding that fact.
At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
Biden was definitely losing it. There’s no doubt. No doubt whatsoever. The debate proved that. The fallout after the debate proved it even more so.
Trump is also showing clear signs of mental decline. I have no doubt we’re going to see that out on display within the next four years. I guess it will come down to whether there will be the same acknowledgement/denial once the script is flipped.
Blue ostriches on crack float on milkshakes between the sidewalk titans of gurglefitz. --YTown
Biden was definitely losing it. There’s no doubt. No doubt whatsoever. The debate proved that. The fallout after the debate proved it even more so.
Trump is also showing clear signs of mental decline. I have no doubt we’re going to see that out on display within the next four years. I guess it will come down to whether there will be the same acknowledgement/denial once the script is flipped.
no chance.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson.
I do not recall it that way. At all. Unless you break it down to liberals vs. conservatives. And trust me, most conservatives that used to post on here have just quit posting - due to about 4 posters, if you want to get into it.
No, most liberals on here defended lisping, slurring biden. "That's just Joe being Joe. He's always had a speech impediment." Although video showed he didn't.
Course, even when he had his right mind, he lied. Popcorn. His uncle being eaten by cannibals, his home fire, his wife being killed by a drunk, his son being killed in Iraq, being in the top 10% of his college class, playing football in college, etc.
He made up stories, constantly. Yet some want to talk about Trump lying while ignoring biden?
Dude never had a job other than being a "public servant leech"
Had a discussion recently on facebook. Guy made a note of all the billionaires that could/will be serving in trumps second term. Someone else mention "If they made their money in the private sector, who cares? What bothers me is those that made their money in 'public service'.
I clearly remember posting that the choice between Biden and Trump was dementia vs demented
I recall you saying that. Portland too said something similar, and so did Swish. Pit, oober and I also said the same, but to arch's points, I don't think we fall under "liberal."
There are a lot of posters who don't post in this forum anymore. Some of whom I am grateful don't post in the PP forum anymore, but others of whom I do miss. Hell, I take a break from this place from time to time for my own personal sanity. Deleted Twitter as well. Never had Facebook. I only follow health/exercise influencers on instagram and don't have any followers of my own. Getting that stuff out of my life has been helpful.
Blue ostriches on crack float on milkshakes between the sidewalk titans of gurglefitz. --YTown
If we wish to talk about mental decline, does the fact that some on this board have selective recall count? Biden certainly has a speech problem which explains having a speech therapist. But the issues go beyond that and have for a while. Sometimes when he speaks he seems to have a clear thought process but at other times the problem is evident. But to pretend some of the ramblings and things we witness from trump are no less troubling and those who wish to make this sound one sided are only fooling themselves. That is if they even believe what they're posting.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
And trust me, most conservatives that used to post on here have just quit posting - due to about 4 posters, if you want to get into it.
Sure, let's get into that. Some Republicans know who and what trump is and refuse to defend him like 05. Some conservatives know there is nothing fiscally conservative about trump and refuse to continue pretending otherwise. But of course there are still others who wish to play the victim and blame others because they can't defend their own BS. Sound familiar?
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No, most liberals on here defended lisping, slurring biden. "That's just Joe being Joe. He's always had a speech impediment." Although video showed he didn't.
05 pointed out your issue. You're one of those who has selective recall.
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Course, even when he had his right mind, he lied. Popcorn. His uncle being eaten by cannibals, his home fire, his wife being killed by a drunk, his son being killed in Iraq, being in the top 10% of his college class, playing football in college, etc.
He made up stories, constantly. Yet some want to talk about Trump lying while ignoring biden?
Sure all politicians lie. Name one who doesn't. But are you really trying to compare the two? I mean really? I can show you where trump lied 40 times on two campaign stops. Would you like to see that? And you should really pick one story and stick to it. Is Biden mental or is he a liar?
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Dude never had a job other than being a "public servant leech"
Then we have the Bible/Shoe salesman enriching himself any way he can grifting the public.
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Had a discussion recently on facebook. Guy made a note of all the billionaires that could/will be serving in trumps second term. Someone else mention "If they made their money in the private sector, who cares? What bothers me is those that made their money in 'public service'.
I agree with that.
How many multi billionaires made those billions in public service? There are none. If you haven't seen that these billionaires only care about themselves yet you soon will. Well then again it's you, so maybe not.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
I clearly remember posting that the choice between Biden and Trump was dementia vs demented
This right here.
The Dems were trying to convince everyone that Biden was sharp as a tack while MAGA was trying to convince everyone that Jan6 was just normal rational debate (Tucker Carlson used a phrase when they made a special out of cherry-picked footage).
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
