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I wonder if we promote Rees and draft Milroe. Milroe's numbers were a lot better in 2023 when Rees was his OC and QB coach. I think it could potentially ease his transition.

Might have to go back and watch those games.

None of the proposed OC replacements did a ton for me, but that looks like the most interesting potential angle.

More rearranging chairs on the titanic. People seem to forget KS couldn’t call plays or adapt anything this year either. Dorsey was a scapegoat nothing more. Funny between the two of them, one has led a team to a top 5 offense and it’s not the guy who didn’t get fired. So I don’t expect much to change. Dickerson I have said from get go was the worst hire in my lifetime. Never has a unit taken such a drastic step back with literally the same players. But Berry is still here and I think he’s the single greatest impediment to this teams success. I think as long as we have Berry and stefanski will keep this up and down in perpetuity. 5 years is enough to show something and they haven’t, other than horrible coaching, drafting, and take talent evaluation. Def not excited about next season. Thank god for the Cavs

Bubba Ventrone HAS TO GO! Are we keeping him? IMO ST has gone down hill since he got the job. How he survived this season is beyond me.

Thanks Patriots!

I think this may end up being more a detriment than a help
This almost assure that we take a Qb in the 1st round
Most feel these Qb's are not worth it
Hopefully either I am wrong or the "most" are wrong

We’re in a great spot for a trade IMO.

kinda like you posting like you have clue.. you don't, have some horrible takes..any of your posts on the cap are a testament to that.

Yea, there does not look like any Franchise QBs in this year's draft. I sure hope they stay far, far away from Sanders.

I agree. A garden spot.

At least one of the QBs will be there, maybe both. Maybe Travis Hunter. Several D line prospects and a corner and running back.

If we don't use just use the #2 pick we need to identify the top 5-6 players we would be thrilled to have, or however many that number is, then don't trade any lower to ensure we get one of them.

If offers come lower than that, we should consider it only if the offer blows us away. As is said, if the price is right, anything is for sale.

J/C

I guess I didn't understand the reason for the OC change from Van Pelt to Dorsey, but I trusted Stefanski. Doesn't look like a good move using hindsight.

But, for what it's worth, we didn't have good line play which makes any OC's job tougher.

As for who we pick with the #2. It's just a guess, but I think they'll take something other than a QB or will drop down to snag more picks. Just a guess. And I guess a Hope as well. No QB looks worthy

The change to Dorsey was to craft an offense more in line with what Watson wanted. Hard to argue with that (without the benefit of hindsight).

Unfortunately, the offense that came out of the Dorsey-KS hybridization was a dumpster fire. Also, the QB we keep bending over backward for couldn't do anything. Also, our Oline came into the season injured (most Browns thing ever). In hindsight, the only unit that came in strong (with the benefit of a QB change) was the WR group... which is kinda hilarious considering the preseason chatter on here.


The change to Winston yielded immediate benefits, so you have a root cause right there, but I'm also convinced there were elements of the offense itself that caused issues. We seemed so extremely disjointed on offense. I have a hard time attributing all of that to one single player (even one as important as QB).

This is what I think will be the most likely scenario-- we take Hunter or a QB.

No doubt the bill comes due. It's just that there are mechanisms available to where it doesn't hit like a hammer. The only way for it to really hurt is if the cap starts to go down. Eventually that might happen, but I don't see it happening over the next few years

I do agree it can hamper us in the free agent market. We can't go out a buy a $45 mil QB. We will need to look for a cheaper vet to be a bridge for the next 2 season or draft a rookie QB to take over at some point in the near future.

The Browns have said that Watson isn't out of the question as the starter. The difference is that he isn't going to go in to the season as the starter. I don't like the idea of Watson based on everything that has happened over the last 3 years, but I understand the thinking. As long as we are paying him it makes no sense to not give him every chance to see if he can turn it around.

Plus, given his injury Watson might not be ready to play until late Oct/early Nov. That opens the possibility we just put him on IR which at least prevents us from having to use a roster spot to keep him around next season.

The only sense I can make out of it is that AVP wanted to be released. To me the position he was in was more or less a no mans land. I can't see any avenue where he could advance his career as an NFL football coach. Being a O coordinator without play calling responsibility seems like a position in name but has no teeth.

I wouldn't want to be in that position. Would you? It just seems to be a middling position that wasn't going to garner any interest from teams seeking a new head coach.

Trade Myles for two No. 1s and flip one (preferably next year’s) for McCarthy if you can. If not, get Howard or Allard on Day 2 and sign Rodgers or Cousins as a bridge. Draft OL and DL early.

I'd be more than glad with McCown. Darnold is night and day.

I wouldn't mind McCown either

This for the most part. The main mechanism being essentially that you have a zero interest credit card where your balance continues to go up, your revenue continues to come in to pay, and you can structure (and routinely restructure) how much, or little and when, you choose to pay each player so your "bill" is different based on how you manage it.

And yes, if the cap would dramatically go down (like a year after Covid or something similar) many teams not only the Browns would be in trouble.

This is not to say players won't get cut to save money, recognize decline of performance, or younger/cheaper player usurps another player, but we've heard this song and dance about cap trouble for at least three years now re: this FO and they have been wrong at every turn so far.

But then again, a broken clock is right twice a day.