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Trump hints that DEI may be to blame for the crash in DC.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-challenged-blaming-dei-dc-200820669.html

Man, that’s low…

You don’t actually think Trump will take responsibility for anything that happens under his watch, do you?

What’s low is this. Trump was challenged on his claim that the FAA under Democratic presidents had promoted the hiring of people with disabilities. The fact-checking website Snopes found that the policy Trump referenced has existed for a decade, including his first term.

Fact Checking Trump is kind of a waste of time. He says something or does something, when it blows up, he denies it. But when he does it, his supporters love it and praise it... when it blows up and he denies it, his supporters forget he did or said it in the first place.

Stupidity in motion. I don't blame trump for this.. He's the culprit for sure, but in the end, the fools that believe him are in it for themselves or they are too stupid to see what he's up to.

Of course, it's JMO, but I believe I'm 100% correct


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
A stale thread....the same crew using this as a chat room.

Stale thread? It's impossible to keep up with all the tweets/EAs.

Dude... the willful ignorance just you are putting on display is astounding. Someone asked you a question about what you think about Trump's PC regarding the plane/heli crash. You don't have anything to say about the guy that froze FAA funding/hiring blaming DEI and Obama?


I'm going to start calling you mac pretty soon.


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
A stale thread....the same crew using this as a chat room.

Yet you can't refute a damned word of it.


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Wow, if my POTUS that I supported and loved so deeply were making hundreds of GREAT MOVES in just two short weeks of his term, I would be rubbing that in the hardcore oppositions face, wouldn’t you? Seems like none of them can be proud of this felonious foolish bizarre idiocy coming from their golden boy… crickets, or lame stale thread comments.

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Trump tariffs on Canada, Mexico and China begin Saturday, White House says


https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/31/tru...ina-begin-saturday-white-house-says.html

We all knew this was coming.


So from a different perspective, that's a whole lot of different policies/EO's that are gonna require active management simultaneously. Hope they dont overload themselves.


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60% of America's fruits and 40% of our vegetables are imported from Mexico.

All those tariffs are going to overload are American consumers. Either the products we buy themselves or components of them are imported from China.


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We’ll find out if he thought that far ahead.


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Canada, Mexico, and China and are the largest importers of American goods. If he thinks they won't retaliate in kind he's only fooling himself. This will cost American businesses a fortune as well.


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DJI is down -300 already. It going to cost us all. This is how big businesses make a money grab. Stocks drop while 401 k’s drop twice as fast and have never recovered from pre-COVID numbers. But the DJI has.

It’s another money grab by greedy politicians and billionaires. We’ve seen this before and nobody should be surprised to see this again.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
60% of America's fruits and 40% of our vegetables are imported from Mexico.

All those tariffs are going to overload are American consumers. Either the products we buy themselves or components of them are imported from China.

Combine this with the deportation efforts, i dont see how this decreases prices. We'll see, i guess. the consumer wanted these tariffs, so it shouldn't be a big deal to handle, apparently.

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We’ll find out if he thought that far ahead.

based on the likely assumption that he didn't, It's gonna be interesting watching him try to tackle a near future problem: another trade war that ends with another agriculture bailout, as well as the extreme labor shortage coming to that sector and others. What i'm worried about is this being another reason for the increase in prison labor, as well as the conservative wet dream of building new private prisons.

Because you and I both know there will not be a enthusiastic wave of white, black, or latino americans rushing to fill all those vacant jobs left by illegals. somebody is gonna be "volun-told" to do the work.


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Well, there is an anomaly behind such bailouts.

Right now the Republicans are fighting over how to implement the directions that have been given to them. Trump is basically saying you have to reduce the deficit, but you also can’t touch social security or Medicare. But you also have to implement/extend tax cuts. If you still try to do all that and then bail out agriculture, that’s like trying to say “Build a sturdy house but don’t use wood, bricks or metal.”


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“Small” plane just crashed in Philly with fatalities. It crashed into a shopping center

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News mentioned an FBI purge happening now. No more details. Captain Chaos is at it on Friday night again.

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He also had this to say about us. What a stellar guy.


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been saying this for years, if it's not making money, conservatives don't view it as important. everything needs to be privatized. well, except the losses. that needs to be socialized.


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Pentagon strips travel reimbursement for troops seeking abortions, fertility treatment


https://www.yahoo.com/news/pentagon-strips-travel-reimbursement-troops-190629314.html


There's literally no reason to do something like this, unless you despise women in the military.


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Interesting timing.


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I suppose now that Canada is the 51st state this is somehow relevant?


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A top-ranking official in the U.S. Department of the Treasury is resigning after a fight with Elon Musk over a sensitive payment system.

The Washington Post reports that David Lebryk, who has worked in the department for decades and is its longest-serving career official, will depart soon, after conflicting with Musk’s deputies over access to the government’s payment system used to distribute trillions of dollars every year. Until Scott Bessent’s confirmation as treasury secretary on Monday, Lebryk served as acting head of the department.


Musk’s people at his “Department of Government Efficiency” have sought access to the system since the election, the Post reports, and their requests continued after Donald Trump’s inauguration. However, the Treasury’s payment systems have usually only been accessed by a small number of career officials.

The Bureau of Fiscal Service operates the systems, controlling $6 trillion of money disbursement around the country. Tens, and possibly hundreds, of millions of people rely on the systems, which distribute Social Security and Medicare benefits, federal salaries, payments to government contractors, grants, and tax refunds, as well as thousands of other things.

Lebryk joined the department in 1989 as an intern, and has worked for three decades under 11 different treasury secretaries. His departure at this time doesn’t bode well, especially since he served in the previous Trump administration and was praised by Trump’s current deputy treasury secretary, Michael Faulkender, in 2023.


“I could not, to this day, tell you his politics,” said Faulkender, who worked with Lebryk in sending out stimulus payments during the Covid-19 pandemic, an effort Lebryk led. “He always seemed to be relaxed and under control.”

It appears that Musk, while upending the lives of federal workers, is now causing chaos with the U.S. government’s money flow. If federal officials who have served for decades under different presidents, including Trump, see a need to quit, that’s not a good sign for the country.

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Hedge funds bet billions on market crash in Trump’s America
Goldman Sachs reports a surge in short bets against US stocks

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‘Trump trades’ fuelled market growth in the wake of the US election in November Credit: Alex Brandon/AP
Hedge funds have bet billions of dollars against Donald Trump’s America amid fears of a market crash.

Data from Goldman Sachs show there has been a surge in “short” bets against US stocks, meaning traders will make money when they fall in value, in a sign of growing concerns about the market.

In January, investors have placed 10 times more bets on US stocks falling than equivalent bets that shares in leading American companies would rise, the investment bank said. It suggests many traders are sitting on huge profits from the chaos earlier this week, when shares in big tech stocks slumped following a panic over the success of rival Chinese AI DeepSeek.

The increase in short bets marks a major turnaround in sentiment from November, when hedge funds piled into long bets on US stocks, predicting they would rise.

Hedge funds ploughed billions into so-called “Trump trades” in the immediate wake of the US election in November, on expectations the new president’s tax cuts and tariff policies would boost America’s economy.

A surge in clients giving their money to the funds in the wake of Mr Trump’s victory helped lift the amount of money managed by the industry to all-time highs of over $4.5 trillion (£3.6 trillion).

Mr Trump has also received significant support from high profile fund chiefs, including Bill Ackman, who has become a major opponent to diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) initiatives since the Oct 7 2023 attacks on Israel.

In the run-up to the elections, Mr Ackman, who founded Pershing Square Capital Management in 2004, publicly endorsed Mr Trump. The billionaire hedge fund manager had previously donated millions to Super PAC organisations supportive of the Democratic Party.

Mr Trump subsequently appointed hedge fund manager and Republican Party donor Scott Bessent as his treasury secretary. Mr Bessent started his career at George Soros’s hedge fund in the 1990s before launching his own investment fund Key Square Group in 2015.

Ken Griffin, who founded Citadel in 1990, later also came out in support of Mr Trump in December, having held back from financially supporting the Republican candidate’s campaign. Mr Griffin, who has donated millions to various Republican candidates and political, had earlier described Mr Trump as a “three-time loser.”

Speaking at the DealBook summit in December, Mr Griffin said Trump’s victory posed an opportunity to end the “regulatory and litigation-induced paralysis” of the Biden era and “bring America back to a nation of principles, of strength, of prosperity and possibility,” according to Politico.

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Individual hedge funds do not typically make their positions public, so it is not known if any of the above are shorting the US market.

Bruno Schneller, managing partner at asset manager Erlen Capital Management, said the increase in short bets against US stocks likely reflect concerns about “macroeconomic uncertainty.”

Analysts at Swiss bank UBS, led by Karim Cherif, head of alternative investments, said: “As the new year unfolds, uncertainties persist regarding Trump’s policies, the global economic trajectory, and central bank actions.”

Separately, Elliott Management, which controls more than $70bn worth of investments, this week warned that Mr Trump’s presidency was fuelling speculative bubbles in markets that threaten to “wreak havoc” if markets crash, according to the Financial Times.

The concerns come as the “magnificent seven” tech companies – Alphabet, Amazon, Apple, Meta, Microsoft, Nvidia and Tesla – have seen their stock prices surge over the past two years on excitement surrounding artificial intelligence (AI).

Investors have become increasingly concerned about over-investment in leading technology companies. The launch of DeepSeek’s new chatbot earlier this month has heightened those concerns.

This week, concerns surrounding DeepSeek led a major sell-off of stocks in top American tech companies, including computer chip maker Nvidia, which saw almost $600bn knocked off its valuation.

DeepSeek itself is owned by Chinese hedge fund High Flyer, which uses algorithmic trading techniques to place bets on market movements. Liang Wenfeng, High Flyer’s chief executive, is also DeepSeek’s chief executive.

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I find it more than slightly odd that trump has decided to punish our allies, Canada and Mexico with a 25% tariff while at the same time only placing a 10% tariff on our biggest enemy, China.


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Originally Posted by Swish
been saying this for years, if it's not making money, conservatives don't view it as important. everything needs to be privatized. well, except the losses. that needs to be socialized.

Only elite or big corp losses. Working class losses require bootstraps.

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Interesting timing.

Because Canadians want the fox in the hen house too. Smh.

Posts like this remind me of the old saying, dumb as the day is long.

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David Lebryk

A top-ranking official in the U.S. Department of the Treasury is resigning after a fight with Elon Musk over a sensitive payment system.

The Washington Post reports that David Lebryk, who has worked in the department for decades and is its longest-serving career official, will depart soon, after conflicting with Musk’s deputies over access to the government’s payment system used to distribute trillions of dollars every year. Until Scott Bessent’s confirmation as treasury secretary on Monday, Lebryk served as acting head of the department.


Musk’s people at his “Department of Government Efficiency” have sought access to the system since the election, the Post reports, and their requests continued after Donald Trump’s inauguration. However, the Treasury’s payment systems have usually only been accessed by a small number of career officials.

The Bureau of Fiscal Service operates the systems, controlling $6 trillion of money disbursement around the country. Tens, and possibly hundreds, of millions of people rely on the systems, which distribute Social Security and Medicare benefits, federal salaries, payments to government contractors, grants, and tax refunds, as well as thousands of other things.

Lebryk joined the department in 1989 as an intern, and has worked for three decades under 11 different treasury secretaries. His departure at this time doesn’t bode well, especially since he served in the previous Trump administration and was praised by Trump’s current deputy treasury secretary, Michael Faulkender, in 2023.


“I could not, to this day, tell you his politics,” said Faulkender, who worked with Lebryk in sending out stimulus payments during the Covid-19 pandemic, an effort Lebryk led. “He always seemed to be relaxed and under control.”

It appears that Musk, while upending the lives of federal workers, is now causing chaos with the U.S. government’s money flow. If federal officials who have served for decades under different presidents, including Trump, see a need to quit, that’s not a good sign for the country.

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What could possibly happen if you let a couple greedy billionaires get their hands on the payment faucet for Social Security, Disability, and welfare payments? Let alone payments for contractors, payroll, grants, EDU, etc. This has always been a power grab and a heist, with control of all things tech as an added bonus for Elon. Imagine not knowing how much money Trump and Elon could divert to their own interests. This is it.

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Safe bet. Wish I had billions to follow suit.

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I find it more than slightly odd that trump has decided to punish our allies, Canada and Mexico with a 25% tariff while at the same time only placing a 10% tariff on our biggest enemy, China.

When policy comes from the drivel of a petulant man-child with dementia that man-crushes on dictators, what did you expect?

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I find it more than slightly odd that trump has decided to punish our allies, Canada and Mexico with a 25% tariff while at the same time only placing a 10% tariff on our biggest enemy, China.
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I find it more than slightly odd that trump has decided to punish our allies, Canada and Mexico with a 25% tariff while at the same time only placing a 10% tariff on our biggest enemy, China.

When policy comes from the drivel of a petulant man-child with dementia that man-crushes on dictators, what did you expect?

I thought the USMCA solved that, according to him and MAGA?


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So the idiot-n-chief just put the 25% tariff on Canada.



Edit: In retaliation to Trump’s BS, I’m formally announcing a 50% dumbass tax for any Trump voter I do work for.

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So unelected people not authorized by congress just pulled a coup in the treasury office. Elon now controls every payment the government makes without checks and balances… what could go wrong?


Hooverville’s Trump version 2.0 coming to a place near you in 3, 2, 1… Funny how a bunch of billionaire hedge-fund owners just placed extremely large bets that Trump would tank the economy like they had insider info. The fascist oligarchy is here folks.

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Canada to impose 25% retaliatory tariffs on US imports


https://www.yahoo.com/news/canada-impose-25-retaliatory-tariffs-063019585.html


another trade war!! let's go!!!


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Hopefully the consolation prize is a bourbon supply glut here in the states.


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If I still drank I would have stocked up on Crown Royal.


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You’ll need a loan to buy it. He’s going to hit the EU too. Hyper-inflation is coming.

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Here’s what will get more expensive from Trump’s tariffs on Mexico, Canada and China

On Saturday, President Donald Trump made good on his promise to impose steep tariffs on America’s three largest trading partners — Canada, China and Mexico — citing a national emergency on the flow of fentanyl and undocumented immigrants into the United States.

The action, which is expected to take effect on Tuesday, includes a 25% duty on all imports from Mexico and most goods from Canada (there’s a 10% carve-out for energy-related items such as crude oil), and an additional 10% tariff on Chinese goods imported into the United States.

Trump has used and promised to employ tariffs for three primary purposes: to raise revenue, to bring trade into balance and to bring rival countries to the negotiating table.

However, economists warn that these moves negatively impact American businesses and consumers, many of whom are still reeling from the sharp rise in inflation in recent years.

The US Chamber of Commerce warned Saturday that tariffs won’t solve the yearslong issues at the borders and instead threaten to “upend supply chains” and raise prices for American families.

“Consumers are going to be clearly worse off,” Sung Won Sohn, professor of finance and economics at Loyola Marymount University and chief economist at SS Economics, told CNN on Saturday.

“When you talk about a tariff, it’s an economic war; and in war, everybody loses,” he added. “But hopefully we will come to some better results and conclusions as a result of the pain and suffering that we will go through.”

About one-third of US imports come from the three countries Trump targeted Saturday. Their products are among some of the most commonplace and critical items used by Americans, including fruits and vegetables, meat, gas, automobiles, electronics, toys, clothing, lumber, and beer and spirits.

Food

Mexico and Canada supply a significant share of several key food categories. For example, Mexico is the largest supplier of fruit and vegetables to the US, while Canada leads in exports of grain, livestock and meats, poultry and more.

Agricultural products from Mexico and Canada, in particular, could become more expensive for consumers, as grocery retailers operate on thinner profit margins than most industries. With little room to absorb higher tariff costs, the grocers may have to pass them on to shoppers.

Although the US typically exports more agricultural goods than it imports, the value of imports has increased faster than that of exports in the past decade, according to the US Department of Agriculture. Additionally, climate change has increased US reliance on countries like Mexico, where growing conditions are more favorable.

Last year, the US imported $46 billion of agricultural products from Mexico, according to USDA data. That includes $8.3 billion worth of fresh vegetables, $5.9 billion of beer and $5 billion of distilled spirits.

But the biggest category of agricultural imports from Mexico last year was fresh fruits, of which the US imported $9 billion worth, with avocados accounting for $3.1 billion of that total.

Fuel and energy

The US imported $97 billion worth of oil and gas from Canada last year, that country’s top export to the US. The US has become more reliant on Canadian oil since the expansion of Canada’s Trans Mountain pipeline, according to data from the US Energy Information Administration.

The tariff on Canadian energy products is only 10%, not the 25% tariff announced on other Canadian exports.

That’ll limit the impact on gasoline prices, said Tom Kloza, global head of energy analysis for OPIS.

Another factor is the time of year. Gas prices are typically near a low for the year in February due to weak demand. If the tariffs stay in place through summer, the impact will be greater, he said.

And while the impact isn’t expected to be felt equally nationwide, it likely will hit America’s Heartland the hardest.

Most Canadian oil is shipped to Midwest refineries via pipeline, Kloza said. The states most likely to be affected are Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Dakota and Wisconsin, he said.

“Interestingly, 12 of those 16 states begin February with an average retail gasoline price under $3 a gallon,” he said. “That probably won’t last.”

Cars and car parts

The US imported $87 billion worth of motor vehicles and $64 billion worth of vehicle parts from Mexico last year, not accounting for December, the top two goods imported from there that year, according to Commerce Department data. (December trade data is due out next week.)

Motor vehicles were also the second-largest good the US imported from Canada last year through November, for a total of $34 billion.

The auto sector is likely “apoplectic” about the new potential tariffs, said Mary Lovely, a senior fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics. US car companies have been able to keep production costs down by hiring lower-wage workers, particularly in Mexico, where much of their production has shifted to in recent years.

But that cost saving will essentially be erased if there’s a 25% tariff, she said. Car manufacturers are unlikely to move their production elsewhere, given they’ve made sizable investments in existing plants in both countries and it is difficult to source all the raw materials to build cars and their parts from other places.

Steel

While the United States is not the manufacturing-focused economy it once was, it still consumes tens of millions of tons of steel a year, feeding industries such as automaking, oil production, construction and infrastructure.

Canada and Mexico are the largest and third-largest exporters of steel to the United States, respectively. In his first term, President Trump imposed tariffs of 25% on steel imports from most nations worldwide effective June 2018. But Mexico and Canada, under their free trade deals with the United States, were exempt from those tariffs.

Canada now accounts for nearly a quarter of steel imported by American businesses by weight, while Mexico accounts for about 12%, according to government data provided by the American Iron and Steel Institute, an industry trade group.

However, there is empirical evidence showing that the 2018 tariffs on steel and aluminum did raise prices, Won Sohn said, noting a 2020 Federal Reserve study that found an increase in producer prices, which eventually were passed along to consumers.

Beer and alcohol

Beer and liquor may be recession-proof, but they’re certainly not tariff-proof.

The result would be a stiff penalty on some of America’s favorite libations, including tequila, which can be made only in Mexico and the No. 1 beer brand in the nation, Modelo.

Constellation Brands, which imports Modelo and Corona beer as well as Casa Noble tequila from Mexico, could see its costs leap 16% under Trump’s proposed tariff and would likely have to raise prices by about 4.5%, Chris Carey, a Wells Fargo equity analyst, wrote in a November note.

In 2023, the US imported $5.69 billion of beer and $4.81 billion of alcohol from Mexico, according to International Trade Administration data. When combined, the two categories were the 10th-biggest import from Mexico last year and mark a sharp 126% increase from 2017, International Trade Administration data shows.

While the tariffs could cause further increases in key materials (such as steel, aluminum and grain) for US beer and spirits businesses, the industry is also bracing for the potential of retaliatory tariffs.

Home construction and furniture

Softwood lumber, which is sourced from the likes of pine, spruce, firs and other conifers is prized for its light weight, workability and strength.

As such, its applications are vast, but it’s a critical ingredient in the US homebuilding industry: Commonly, the skeleton and skin of homes — the framing, roof and siding — consist of softwood lumber.

And 30% of what the US uses annually comes from Canada.

Economists and homebuilders caution that America does not currently have the industrial capacity to meet the demand and that taxing — or worse, cutting off — Canadian lumber imports could further exacerbate the ongoing housing affordability crisis.

“Whether it’s lumber tariffs or tariffs on any other import, these can impact the supply chain,” said Nick Erickson, senior director of housing policy for Housing First Minnesota, a trade organization that represents builders, remodelers and other businesses in the North Star State. “And we’ve seen in the past that tariffs on lumber, these are paid for by new homebuyers in the cost of their home.”

And it’s not just lumber at risk for tariffs: 71% of the imported $456 million of lime and gypsum (which are used for drywall) came from Mexico in 2023, according to the National Association of Home Builders.

Factoring in the other raw materials and components imported from Canada, Mexico, as well as China (notably the steel, aluminum and home appliances already subject to tariffs), Trump’s new tariffs could raise the cost of imported construction materials by $3 billion to $4 billion, the NAHB noted.

Electronics, toys, appliances

Consumer electronics are among the top goods the US imported from China last year, according to federal trade data. That includes cellphones, TVs, laptops, video game consoles, monitors and all the components that power them.

China also is a major supplier of home appliances. Those along with toys and footwear are particularly exposed to Trump’s tariff threats.

A staggering 99% of shoes sold in the United States are imported, according to the Footwear Distributors & Retailers of America, a trade group that represents Nike, Steve Madden, Cole Haan and other footwear brands.

More than half (56%) of shoes sold in the United States are made in China, the trade group said.

The United States is also reliant on China for toys and sporting equipment, including items such as footballs, soccer balls and baseballs. The United States gets 75% of its imported toys and sports equipment from China.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/01/economy/trump-tariffs-mexico-canada-china-increased-costs/index.html


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Wow, the orangatang toned MAGA furher now says Canadian tariffs will remain in place until we annex them and make them the 51st state. Straight PUTIN moves.





Shameful rhetoric and posturing??? Trump is going full on authoritarian. Telling Americans to brace for pain. Who the hell voted for pain? Eggs and gas my ass, this is just hate and fascism.

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I saw something yesterday that if any of these countries retaliate, he would again raise the tariffs. One of the things i looked up after is about that is Canada has a few more steps it could take including turning off power to some of the northern states- and then i found this.

Tariffs on Canadian electricity and advanced energy exports might hamstring the US artificial intelligence (AI) development complex and military capabilities. In 2023, the United States imported 33 terawatt hours of electricity from Canada, helping power US data centers needed for AI. If domestic electricity prices rise, then US AI capabilities would suffer. Additionally, Canada is a significant exporter of lithium-ion (Li-ion) batteries to the United States, and these batteries often have dual-use implications, including for drones. If the United States places tariffs on Canadian Li-ion imports, then it could diminish US and allied military capabilities.

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/tariffs-on-canada-and-mexico-could-hurt-trumps-quest-for-us-energy-dominance/#:~:text=In%202023%2C%20the%20United%20States,US%20AI%20capabilities%20would%20suffer.

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I saw something yesterday that if any of these countries retaliate, he would again raise the tariffs. One of the things i looked up after is about that is Canada has a few more steps it could take including turning off power to some of the northern states- and then i found this.

Tariffs on Canadian electricity and advanced energy exports might hamstring the US artificial intelligence (AI) development complex and military capabilities. In 2023, the United States imported 33 terawatt hours of electricity from Canada, helping power US data centers needed for AI. If domestic electricity prices rise, then US AI capabilities would suffer. Additionally, Canada is a significant exporter of lithium-ion (Li-ion) batteries to the United States, and these batteries often have dual-use implications, including for drones. If the United States places tariffs on Canadian Li-ion imports, then it could diminish US and allied military capabilities.

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/tariffs-on-canada-and-mexico-could-hurt-trumps-quest-for-us-energy-dominance/#:~:text=In%202023%2C%20the%20United%20States,US%20AI%20capabilities%20would%20suffer.

This is exactly what Putin tried. Invade Ukraine, then claim anybody trying to aid Ukraine will "force" him to escalate the war.


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Trump and Elon want to build nuclear and coal plants. Besides, they will control the electrical grid. If they need power for critical AI dev, they’ll shut ours off sporadically. Like they do in countries like Pakistan and Afghanistan. They lose power in peak hours daily. Working with their devs is a horrible experience.

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Quote from Trump:

“WILL THERE BE SOME PAIN? YES, MAYBE (AND MAYBE NOT!),” Trump said in a social media post. “BUT WE WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, AND IT WILL ALL BE WORTH THE PRICE THAT MUST BE PAID.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-americans-could-feel-155950434.html


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Talk about moving goal post… eggs and gas my ass. I hate these people with a passion.

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