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https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-elon-musk-doge-treasury-5e26cc80fcb766981cea56afd57ae759

I can understand getting access to what is being paid out.. The amounts.

But why does this guy need access to my personal information

Someone on facebook suggested that he wants this info so he and Zuckerberg can identify those that make negative comments about Trump....

I don't know, seems a little like something that would come from Qanon..

George Orwell is sitting back in his smoking jacket, sipping a nice single malt and laughing his ass off saying he told us so.

Now we know who the real Deep State actors are. Musk and Trump.

It’s a government-wide attack on our democracy. And now they have all the tools they need to carry out dear leaders dystopian agenda to make himself an Authoritarian leader like Putin. He meant it when he said this would be the last election they would have to vote in…

Where the hell are the Dems? Laying down for this ish like a bunch of political cucks… So pissed.

Dems have continued to drop the ball in response. It’s as if they’ve surrendered.

I watched Liz warren and a few others today, they are still playing the consent and advise role in the Senate. And they can’t do squat unless some R’s join them. I think it’ll end up on the people to take their government back from the New Oligarchy. Funny enough, the same people who pulled J6 might lead the attack to take them out of power at this point. When those toothless idiots figure out their check ain’t coming, they’ll lose their bigoted little entitled minds.

Pocket change!

Nothing in that video supports that moronic claim. Back to spamming I see. I suppose when all else fails...

Zelensky is a moron now??

Weird.

Nothing in that video supports that moronic claim. Back to spamming I see. I suppose when all else fails...

So, Zelensky is a moron. Got it. It's not like we didn't already know that though.

Maybe you should actually show where Zelenskyy said that? Or even that the U.S. has given Ukraine 100 billion dollars in cash. I don't actually expect that you will.

Zelensky is not an idiot. There's a lot going on here. DM me if you want to talk about it. Won't be able to say much, but I can say some things.

He couldn’t keep up if you delivered the facts in crayon. Why bother.

I'll always engage. FATE is perhaps the only Trump supporter who actually will engage. Sure, he can be be prickly, but I see far worse on a daily basis from my job (lately from the very top of my chain). Dialogue is always important, even in times of war.

I don’t speak Ukrainian so I don’t know what he is saying. The captions seem to indicate he is saying he has no idea where the 100 million is. I assume it will be reported soon if true.

There is waaaaayyyyyyy more than meets the eye with the whole Ukraine situation.

One of the most important things to remember is that we don't really send Ukraine any money. The money gets spent here and then "things" go to Ukraine. That's just the tip of the ice berg.

That's why I asked FATE to show where the U.S. actually gave Ukraine "100 billion dollars". Now P says it was "100 million dollars". Then of course numerous questions were posed without any evidence of what happened. It's the typical "Let's plant seeds in people's minds with no evidence to base it on."

I mistyped. It is 100 billion in aid is supposedly missing. The original post was insinuating that politicians here were to blame. I did not pass judgment since the only links are from sources I never heard of.

Not completely true. We did send them cash as well. I don't remember how much but I did post it in one of the Ukraine threads. You and I discussed it. I agree most is spent here and equipment is supposedly shipped overseas.

"Supposedly" being the key word in your sentence. Now, can you show anywhere that the United States ever gave Ukraine 100 billion in cash to begin with?

By searching I have found nothing to support that much cash has ever been given to Ukraine. The vast majority of what has been sent to Ukraine has been in military equipment and munitions.

My bad. Yeah you're right. I think we're saying the same thing. I just wanted to combat the notion that we're just sending suitcases of cash over there, which is a lot of the inferences I typically have to push back against.

No, I can't. I nor what I posted claimed that. All it claims is Zelenski says he never received around 100 billion in aid. Nowhere does it say it was in cash. Ialso said that I am not passing judgment until a reliable source reports it.

j/c...

Is the 50 million to send condoms to Gaza "complicated"? Asking for a friend.

It's not complicated. It's a lie.

Fact Check: $50 million for condoms in Gaza? Five big reasons to be skeptical Trump’s story is true
Daniel Dale Alex Marquardt Jennifer Hansler
By Daniel Dale, Alex Marquardt and Jennifer Hansler, CNN
5 minute read
Updated 3:00 PM EST, Wed January 29, 2025

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/29/politics/gaza-condoms-fact-check/index.html

CNN
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During her first official White House briefing as President Donald Trump’s press secretary, Karoline Leavitt announced that Trump had prevented a “preposterous waste of taxpayer money.” Trump’s team, she said, used the president’s pause on foreign aid to thwart a plan in which “there was about to be $50 million taxpayer dollars that went out the door to fund condoms in Gaza.”

Leavitt’s Tuesday comments made headlines around the world. And the president himself told an even more dramatic version of the story in a speech on Wednesday, saying that “we identified and stopped $50 million being sent to Gaza to buy condoms for Hamas.”

But there are at least five big reasons to be skeptical that the story is true.


The White House offered no evidence for the story: Leavitt provided no proof for her claim that there was ever a federal plan to spend $50 million on condoms in Gaza. And when CNN asked Leavitt and her colleagues for any evidence, another White House official instead pointed us to comments from the State Department — comments that, as we’ll discuss below, did not even repeat Leavitt’s claim of a planned $50 million Gaza condom expenditure, let alone prove the claim.

In three previous years under Biden, USAID spent no money on condoms in the entire Middle East: A detailed federal report published last year said USAID did not provide or fund any condoms in the Middle East in the 2021, 2022 and 2023 fiscal years.

The report, noted by The Guardian on Tuesday, said the only Middle East contraceptives provided or funded by USAID during that three-year period went to the country of Jordan in fiscal 2023. This was “a small order of injectables and progestin-only contraceptive pills” totaling about $46,000.

Total worldwide USAID condom spending is far less than $50 million: In the 2023 fiscal year, USAID provided or funded a global total of about $7.1 million worth of male condoms and about $1.1 million worth of female condoms, overwhelmingly to countries in Africa, according to the federal report.

In other words, Leavitt was essentially claiming Tuesday that the Biden administration had decided to provide more than six times the 2023 worldwide value of condoms to a single tiny territory that has about 2.1 million people and that is in a region that usually does not receive condoms from the US.

A former senior Biden official who worked on Gaza aid issues told CNN that Leavitt’s story about a $50 million condom expenditure for Gaza was “imaginary.” The former official said: “It’s a lie, they are making s*** up.”

The State Department would not repeat Leavitt’s claim: The White House official pointed to a series of social media posts from State Department spokesperson Tammy Bruce, who listed specific examples of how Trump’s aid pause had prevented what Bruce called unjustified spending that wouldn’t make the country “safer, stronger, and more prosperous.”

But Bruce did not mention $50 million for condoms in Gaza.

Instead, Bruce was vague about how much condom spending was supposedly stopped. She wrote: “Example 1: Condoms. Prevented $102 million in unjustified funding to a contractor in Gaza, including money for contraception.” She did not specify how much of the $102 million in funding was intended for contraception, let alone for condoms in particular.

In an email to reporters earlier Tuesday, Bruce said the entity that was supposed to get $102 million is the International Medical Corps – a US-based organization that operates two field hospitals in Gaza.

In a statement to CNN on Wednesday, International Medical Corps said that it has received about $68 million from the US Agency for International Development for Gaza operations since October 7, 2023, the day of Hamas’ major attack on Israel. While International Medical Corps has publicly discussed its reproductive and sexual health services in Gaza, among various other services from cardiology to orthopedics, the organization said in the Wednesday statement that “no US government funding was used to procure or distribute condoms.”

The organization said the US funding has paid for the two hospitals’ “lifesaving medical care” for roughly 33,000 civilians per month. Trump’s freeze, the organization said, halts US funding for hospital services like performing about 30 lifesaving surgeries per day, delivering about 20 babies per day, running an emergency room receiving up to 200 patients per day, and operating one of Gaza’s only neonatal intensive care units and only stabilization centers for severely malnourished children.

“If the stop-work order remains in place, we will be unable to sustain these activities beyond the next week or so,” the organization said.

A State Department official issued an additional statement to CNN on Wednesday that asserted that the funding Trump had stopped from going to the International Medical Corps “included” funds for family planning, emergency contraceptives and prevention of sexually transmitted infections. Like Bruce’s Tuesday social media posts and email to reporters, this Wednesday statement did not repeat Leavitt’s claim that there was $50 million in planned funding for condoms in particular; it provided no dollar figure at all for condoms.

Experts expressed doubt about Leavitt’s story — or simply called it wrong: Experts on US aid to Gaza and global health aid were baffled by the claim that the US had been planning to spend $50 million on condoms in Gaza.

“We have asked around, and no one is sure what this is referring to,” said Steve Fake, a spokesperson for Anera, an aid nonprofit that has partnered with USAID on a five-year, $50 million health initiative in Gaza.

Fake said this Anera program has “definitely no purchase of condoms” and added: “Our whole program is $50 (million) and represents a significant portion of total US aid going to Gaza.”

Matthew Kavanagh, director of Georgetown University’s Center for Global Health Policy and Politics, said that after doing some digging into Leavitt’s claim, “It seems clear to me there was no $50 million in condoms going to Gaza. That is, at best, a mischaracterization.”

And Jeremy Konyndyk, president of the advocacy organization Refugees International and a USAID official during the Biden and Obama administrations, said, “This is total garbage. Either fully invented, or someone who doesn’t know how to read a spreadsheet.”

It's not my job to show anything. These are Zelensky's words, not mine. You call him an idiot and then somehow attribute it to my post. Same as it ever was. I don't need to answer stupid questions if you don't have the intellectual integrity to acknowledge facts or do your own research. The fact is: this is what he said.

Here's another fact: If it were a "mere" 10 billion we should all be enraged beyond measure. Unless, of course, you pay no taxes and don't care that your fellow Americans are ripped off at every turn.


If there was proof that we sent 5.7 trillion to Mars, you would spend all day asking for proof that it wasn't just 5.69. It's a tired, tired charade that I (literally) have no desire to even engage in anymore.

Everyone knows government spending is wasteful. That doesn't mean Musk should be given carte blanche to decide where that waste is. You have never shown those were his words. And as per usual, you blame me for you not providing information.

Why don't you send that PM to 05 so he can educate you.

Congress passes the budget, the president signs the budget, and the executive branch is responsible for administration of the budget.

Somehow I foresee a lawsuit. I believe this is pretty settled law. The President can't just decide not to pay people just because he does not like the budget. Just because you inherited Joe's budget (and the continuing resolutions) does not mean that you can stop payments.

I have no idea how Elon became special government employee, if he is indeed one, Elon will be limited to 130 days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Government_employee

I feel that it there will be lawsuits, and as I said elsewhere, Congress needs to get a backbone instead of being walked all over.

You speaking about what the laws say. Since when did trump ever care about what the law says?

That's at the core of my issues with it, and, like I mentioned to FATE, my grave concern about it being a slippery slope, especially giving one person so much power and sway. Capitalize that by that person being an unelected official.

The courts have already ruled against presidential impoundment of funds. Congress has the Constitutional power of the purse and they are the only ones who can authorize and appropriate funds, whether we like it or not.

They've been projecting that for years. Whenever the right contends that the left is doing something, 9 out of 10 tmes it's because the right is doing it.

You have just about the craziest arguments about Z... Man, which would you prefer, for Putin to take over Ukraine.. What the hell are you, and freakin Commie?

I do believe you have no understanding of what fate said. Par for the course, though.

All it would take 4 senators to have a backbone and they would effectively neuter Trump. It is not that hard to figure out.

With the Hegseth nomination, it appears that there are at least 3.

We will see if any spines are grown with RFK, Tulsi, and Kash.

They did manage to keep Gaetz out which was one hell of a dodged bullet. RFK I think will be the next big test.

YOU have the most profound case of poor reading comprehension in the history of this board. And I'm being generous. It's one post in ten that you even have the most general understanding of the subject matter, and one in those ten that you've followed the conversation. Since I'm sure you can't do math either, that means there's a 1% chance that any of us will read anything of substance that adds to the conversation.

Try harder. Just at least try to read along, every post, before you spout off nonsense. And for crying out loud, proofread a post before you click, it takes five seconds. Not a single person here even understands what you just said.

This weeks episode of "As my stomach turns and 'merica burns" is brought to you by Uncle Scrooge aka Elon Musk who has effectively stolen the databases and checkbook of the US Treasury and USAid, two of the bleeding heart liberal parts of the government that need to be shut down... How dare we send out money, you can't save money when you don't spend money, billionaire rules will prevail. Now that Uncle Elon's hands are closer to the cookie jar, it is just a matter of time before a secret transaction is made to Elon's Swiss bank account. "Bye Bye sucker.. I win" bills are in print as the new money.. Who needs dead Presidents when they can have live idols.

Oh, and that shot of the evil dem Jamie Raskin crying on the steps of USAid... its pure media gold.

Meanwhile at the White House, Grandpa Don is running interference, with his "non-Presidential" moment after the first deadly commerical airplane crash in 16 years. "Who gives a rats ass about those dead suckers", and "what do you expect me to do go swimming? Now if they could still vote, I may be interested.." Anyway we found out that it is all Biden and Obama fault cause they had DEI that allowed anyone to apply. Is there any problem that cannot be blamed on DEI, who knows? How long would it take for the dumbasses to figure out that applying for an aircraft controller job and getting one are two different things.

Not to be outdone, and to pivot to the next subject, Grandpa Don announced 25 percent tarriffs against Mexico, 25 percent tarriffs against Canada (excluding oil/gas/electricity (10%) because we need that stuff) and 10 percent against China, because we need their stuff too. Why?? Border crossing and fentanyl. To which Canada responded, "Dude you realize that Canada is to the north, and if you keep things up we will have to protect our boarder from 'meicans that want to leave." In the end it was just a big fooled you!!, case those tarriffs were put off anyway. Another win for the greatest deal maker of the all...

Uncle Bobby is still trying to figure out how he can be for and against vaccines at the same time.
Sister Tulsi appears to have had a romantic encounter with Eddie Snowden before he was sent to his new home in Russia. Man, she in serious love... that drooling was fun to watch.
Sheriff Wannabe Kash is in the same pickle as Uncle Bobby applying for that new job, as he is having a hard time telling people that "There will be no retributions", when there is a book that has the names of his retribution targets...

Just remember, its only my words right now that count and anything you say or did in the past cannot be used against you... New Rule.

Until next week, same Bat time, same Bat channel....

Get your lies straight. Trump said 100 million today. Tomorrow it will probably be another 100 million for tampons

And you have the most profound way of spreading misinformation. What Zelenskyy actually said is the amount of aid Ukraine has been given by the U.S. is much less than has been claimed by some. That they never received 177 billion in aid from the U.s. but only 75 billion. It's not as if it's "missing".

Zelenskyy: Ukraine has received over $75 billion in aid from the US, not $177 billion

The President of Ukraine has stated that the real amount of aid from the United States is over $75 billion, not $177 billion or $200 billion. Most of this aid came in the form of weapons, not money.

Ukraine received more than $75 billion worth of weapons from the United States, not $177 billion. This was stated by President Volodymyr Zelenskyy in an interview with The Associated Press, UNN reports.

"I heard that America gave Ukraine $177 billion. As the President of a country at war, I say that we have received more than $75 billion (in US aid - ed.), which means that we have never received $100 billion of this $177 billion (of US aid - ed.), or even $200 billion, as some have said. This is important because we are talking about specific things, because we received it not in money, but in weapons. We received more than 70 billion dollars worth of weapons" - Zelensky said.

He emphasized that the claims that Ukraine received 200 billion to support the army during the war are not true.

"There is education, training, additional transportation, humanitarian programs, social programs, etc. But when people say that Ukraine received 200 billion to support the army and so on during the war, it is not true. I don't know where all this money is. Maybe it's true from the point of view of paper, maybe there are hundreds of different programs. Maybe there are. We are grateful for everything, but I, as president, am recording that we have received more than 75 billion 76 something, something like that. It's a lot of help, but it's not 200 billion.” Zelensky said.

He said that there is also assistance in the humanitarian sphere, such as support for energy. Zelensky said that in this area, assistance amounted to $200 million. Also, as part of the assistance in the medical sphere, Ukraine received $100 million.

"These 300-400 million are what the state received as a state for these programs. We will close it with the Europeans or with internal resources." - Zelensky said.

In December 2024, Zelenskyy said that the United States had allocated $177 billion to Ukraine, but that part of the aid had not yet arrived.

Zelenskyy also recently commented on the 90-day pause in the provision of international support from the United States and said that military assistance to Ukraine has not been stopped.

https://unn.ua/en/news/zelenskyy-uk...in-aid-from-the-us-not-dollar177-billion

I saw a couple things on the socials last night where they were saying if you have most/all of your time in for social security, you might want to go to the SSA website and print out your information with your yearly earning chart and your page showing when you can retire and what you will make at full retirement and keep a hard copy.
You know, just in case some teenager in charge of all the information just happens to start scrubbing databases