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Trump said we will own Gaza. Then he said they will temporarily be moved to Arizona. Hey if the president can just say s on the world stage I can say it on a message board.

Build a big airstrip, put a garrison of 20,000 Marines and Army troops, and another 10,000 of NATO troops on a rotational basis and end this crap of the last 50 years.

It's just a negotiating ploy right? Pffft. What a dildo.

Build a based and 20,000 US troops? That'll be nice and cheap. And no - the UN wouldn't have anything to do with the disiplacement of a nation of people. But good to see you still just drinking down the Trump Loolaid without thinking for yourself.

So you don't want to send a couple tanks we were going to mothball anyway to NATO's doorstep, but you want to drop 20k troops BACK into the black hole that is the Middle East?

Are you only 5 years old? If you're under 10, then I can understand having not seen what we were able to accomplish with troops in the Middle East.

Trump is really trying to be our generation's Andrew Jackson.

So Canada is going to be the 51st state. Does that mean Gaza will now be state #52?

What an idiot this MF'er is.

So, lukewarm response to aiding Ukraine against one of our top adversaries, but now we want to have boots on the ground and occupy a place in the Middle East? That always works out well...


Also, I don't think Trump vetted that claim through his Chief of Staff. The look on her eyes when he made the statement was priceless. If anyone can post the picture, it's worth sharing.

Why is Trump threatening war with Iran?

Because people who were bullied as children feel a need to try to be a tough guy when they grow up. Now he wants to be the bully. Then there's the little hands thing but I won't go into that right now.

What's starting to form is Trump's actual intent beyond the obvious populist motives. Him talking about rebuilding Gaza, plus the timing of the "sovereign wealth fund" announcement, looks like a legal way for him and his allies to cypher off billions of taxpayer money under the guise of nation building.

Trump said Gaza could be the "Rivera of the middle east". I wonder how many trump properties he plans to build there? So the American people will foot the bill to actually build Trumplandia. Sadly I can actually picture him naming it that.

What I still don't get about the sovereign wealth fund idea is that it's about saying "Hey, we paid all our bills and now we have X amount of money left over. Let's put it in an investment fund." Not unlike real life.

In our scenario, though, it would be like "Hey, I'm up to my eyeballs in crippling debt. I still am making less than I'm spending, but let me also find a way to spend money on an investment strategy."

How Trump’s Gaza real estate dream took shape
President’s billionaire property developer friend and son-in-law are at centre of ‘deal of a lifetime’ to transform Gaza Strip

Memphis Barker
Senior Foreign Correspondent
Related Topics
Donald Trump, Jared Kushner, Gaza, Property and construction industry, Middle East
05 February 2025 3:12pm GMT

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It all seemed clear to Jared Kushner as he discussed the future of Gaza in an interview at Harvard University last February.

“I’m sitting in Miami Beach right now,” he said, referring to the offices of his new investment firm, Affinity Partners, in the coastal Florida city that has witnessed an eruption of skyscrapers and deluxe hotels over the last decade.

Mr Kushner’s 11,000 sq ft headquarters boasts floor-to-ceiling windows, looking out over the waves of the Atlantic Ocean.

Like Miami, Mr Kushner mused that Gaza possessed “very valuable” waterfront property and could become a hub for tourism – if the Gazan people were relocated, at least temporarily, out of the area.

Prof Tarek Masoud, the interview’s host, appeared shocked at the apparently off-hand remarks by Donald Trump’s son-in-law.

“Is there anyone talking about this in Israel?” asked the chairman of the Middle East Initiative, which was hosting the talk. “I don’t know,” Mr Kushner replied, shrugging his shoulders.

On Tuesday morning, after Mr Trump announced strikingly similar plans to turn Gaza into the “Riviera of the Middle East”, the world was barely talking about anything else.

Flabbergasted analysts wondered whether Mr Trump, a braggadocious real estate developer who cut his teeth in 1980s New York, was simply dreaming of the deal of a lifetime, or proffering a madcap scheme to distract the attention of the world’s media.

But Mr Trump’s own words – and his choice of key Middle East advisers – suggest months, if not years, of forethought. A cat may have been thrown on the table, but this one is alive and clawing.

On Sunday, before he boarded the flight that would take him to Washington, Benjamin Netanyahu, Israel’s prime minister, praised his army for “redrawing the map” of Gaza, adding: “But I believe working with President Trump, we can redraw it even further and for the better.”

On Monday morning, as he waited for the arrival of Mr Netanyahu, White House aides told Mr Trump that rebuilding Gaza would take at least 15 years.

Then began a day in which the president’s blue-sky thinking started to show through the clouds. Signing a number of executive orders in the afternoon, Mr Trump said Palestinians had “no alternative” to moving out of Gaza, which was a “demolition site”.


As he welcomed Mr Netanyahu for a one-on-one chat, he added that the population should be “thrilled” to live somewhere better than in a disaster zone, claiming Jordan and Egypt would be happy to go along with his plan.

In the meeting, Mr Netanyahu reportedly gifted the president a golden pager, a nod towards the detonation of thousands of the devices in the hands of Hezbollah operatives last year.

It was evening when Mr Trump dropped his bombshell, speaking to reporters alongside Mr Netanyahu in a formal press conference at the White House.

The US would take a “long-term ownership position” of the Gaza Strip after relocating the Palestinian people, he said, rebuilding it into a glitzy destination not just for them, “for a specific group of people, but for everybody”.

“This was not a decision made lightly. I don’t mean to be cute, I don’t mean to be a wise guy,” he added, but said Gaza would become the “Riviera of the Middle East”.

According to the Wall Street Journal, Mr Trump told Mr Netanyahu in late summer that the Gaza Strip was a prime piece of real estate, and he should think about what kind of hotels could be constructed there.

Donald Trump reportedly told Benjamin Netanyahu that he should consider what kinds of hotels could be constructed on the Gaza Strip
Donald Trump reportedly told Benjamin Netanyahu that he should consider what kinds of hotels could be constructed on the Gaza Strip Credit: Jewel Samad/Getty Images

However, the plan for the US to take control of the strip and handle the transformation itself was only formed in recent days, the paper reported.

US officials briefed other insiders that Mr Trump’s plans appeared to be based loosely on ideas he floated to some staff privately in recent days.

Throughout, Mr Trump has lent on the counsel of Steve Witkoff, a close family friend and billionaire property developer. The 67-year-old succeeded Mr Kushner as Middle East envoy, promising to “speak with, collaborate and download with” the younger man, according to friends.

Mr Witkoff first met Mr Trump in 1986 as a real estate attorney at a law firm whose clients included the loud-mouthed party boy whose every move transfixed New York’s gossip columns.

It was a fateful moment: the encounter reportedly inspired him to ditch his corporate job and enter real estate himself.

In 2023, Mr Witkoff completed the sale of Manhattan’s Park Lane Hotel to the Qatari Investment Authority for $623 million (£497 million), a deal sure to have caught the eye of the president.

Steve Witkoff travelled to Gaza last week to assess damage in the territory
Steve Witkoff travelled to Gaza last week to assess damage in the territory Credit: Shir Torem/Reuters
The pair were golfing earlier on the day that Thomas Matthew Crooks tried to assassinate Mr Trump with an AR 15-style rifle, and it was Mr Trump’s golf partner who was dispatched to get a first-hand view of Gaza last week.

Ahead of the visit, he met Prince Faisal bin Farhan al-Saud, Saudi Arabia’s foreign minister, and the secretary general of the Palestine Liberation Organisation in Riyadh.

Key to the discussion was Mr Trump’s plan to secure a normalisation deal between Israel and Saudi Arabia, a capstone prize he was unable to secure in the Abraham Accords of his first term.

Inside the Strip, Mr Witkoff travelled to the Netzarim Corridor, in central Gaza, and the Philadelphi Corridor on the southern border with Egypt, making him one of the only Western officials to have witnessed the devastation at ground level.

He described the challenges facing Gaza from the perspective of a troubled American real estate impresario in a press conference outside the White House on Tuesday.

“In any city in the USA, if you had damage that was one hundredth of what I saw in Gaza… nobody would be allowed to go back to their homes,” he said. “That’s how dangerous it is.”

“There are 30,000 unexploded munitions; there are buildings that could tip over at any moment; there are no utilities there whatsoever; no working water, electric, gas – nothing. God knows what kind of disease might be festering there.”


The president’s plan to “clean out” Gaza referred to making it a habitable place for people, he said, claiming the effort would take up to 15 years, rather than the five proposed by the Biden administration.

“They dug tunnels underneath there that degraded the stone that would form foundations. We have to examine that… You do it with subterranean surveys,” he said.

Like Mr Kushner, Mr Witkoff views the interminable problems of the Middle East as “one giant real estate deal”, friends told the Wall Street Journal last year.

While the husband of Ivanka Trump will hold no formal role in the new Trump administration, he recently said: “I’ll give them my advice, I’ll help them in any way they need.”

Affinity Partners, the investment firm Mr Kushner set up in 2021, certainly has experience with five-star real estate projects on sites hit by war. It is constructing luxury villas on the Albanian island of Sazan, once given over to the military and home to a Soviet submarine base.

Affinity Partners has secured a 99-year-lease to develop the former Yugoslav army headquarters in Belgrade. To secure the deal, Mr Kushner agreed to construct a memorial to Serbian “victims of Nato aggression” in the war of 1999, sparking howls of protest from US officials.

But to say that Gaza will prove more difficult ground for Mr Trump and his band of property tycoons is putting it lightly.

Palestinians return to their homes through Al-Rashid Street following the ceasefire deal
Palestinians return to their homes through Al-Rashid Street following the ceasefire deal Credit: Getty Images
The Biden administration’s construction of a pier to deliver humanitarian aid off the coast cost $320 million, before it broke in a storm and took the life of a US army soldier on its way to the depths.

On Tuesday morning, the foreign ministers of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Jordan condemned the plans to resettle Gaza’s two million-strong population. At 4am local time, Riyadh put out a statement saying it would not normalise relations with Israel without the creation of a Palestinian state.

Allies of Mr Trump have stressed that he is “deadly serious” about his expansionist plans to seize Greenland, the Panama Canal and now apparently occupy the Gaza Strip.

But the president was also dead-set on applying swingeing tariffs on Canada and Mexico, two of America’s largest trading partners. Economists greeted these moves with the same wide-eyed befuddlement exhibited by Middle East analysts on Wednesday morning – and Mr Trump dropped them at the last minute, having won somewhat cosmetic concessions.

Could the president’s Gaza plans be a similar MacGuffin, intended to be dropped at a later point and secure the passage of a normalisation deal?

At the very least, there is more chance of such a win for the Trump administration than of seeing a Trump Tower looking out over the oceans from Gaza in 15 years’ time.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-n...viera-real-estate-jared-kushner-witkoff/

Mar-A-Gaza

Trumplandia.

You're an idiot...in a good way.

Look, we have been trying to sort this out for 60 years. Nothing has worked. I think a stabilizing force in the mid-east is needed. Gaza is in ruins. Those people have nowhere to go, they have to go somewhere, but it isn't there. At least not now.

I see it as being the study hall monitor to keep the kids from running amuck.

So you DO want the USA to to be the Policeman of the world and spend USA tax dollars on trying to keep order everywhere. Got it.

I won't even get into a discussion about how unlikely it is to happen. Just want to know you are all about spending a lot of money overseas in order to seek peace and police other nations.

why is it unlikely?

Where do they intend to get he money to accomplish this?

Elon!

This makes perfect sense. They just shut down USAID to stop feeding starving people in third world countries. Now they plan to build the Riviera of the Middle East. Only in Trumplandia.

Its the republican way. Do things for rich people. forget the poor

Was our involvement in Iraq post-Saddam as well as our involvement in Afghanistan NOT intended as a "stabilizing force"? You're right, nothing has worked... and you want to do more of that.

That is asinine on its own, and is 10x worse when you put it next to what you're saying we should do with Ukraine (spend no money)... there's just no adjective for it. We don't want to send a (relatively) small amount of equipment ($) to defend NATO's doorstep, but we want to send equipment, money, and troops ($$$) to the black hole that is the middle east... to try and do the same thing that hasn't worked in that area in the past... because the guy that negotiated the pull-out from Afghanistan randomly said so.

Gaza will be a "gift" from Israel....

Israel backs Trump plan and orders military to prepare for Palestinians to leave Gaza

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/06/middleeast/netanyahu-endorses-trump-gaza-plan-intl-hnk/index.html

Because Gaza doesn't belong to Israel so they can't gift it to the USA, the rest of the world is not going to stand by and let it happen. I know the MAGA boys don't like to hear about the rest of the world, but in this case they're going to have an opinion and it's going to matter. The sort of idiotic speech that Trump gave the other day, that republicans are busy Trying to walk back today, is going to galvanise the rest of the world into resisting and standing up to Trump.

There's a lot of territory that isn't supposed to belong to Israel. like bro, come on. You've been paying attention to the same things I have.

Sheesh, Trump is a land grabber of historical note. This could have been a Babylon Bee or Onion article, but the sad thing is that it is true.

Gaza does belong to Israel. The 2-state solution does not work. Israel is a sovereign nation. Gaza is the modern-day Judea and Somaria. It is part of Israel.

According to the Bible?

One could argue that Israel doesn't even belong to Israel.


https://history.state.gov/milestones/1945-1952/creation-israel#:~:text=On%20May%2014%2C%201948%2C%20David,nation%20on%20the%20same%20day.

Also, the 1948 agreement to give the land back to the Jewish people. The Ottoman Empire in WW1 lost the Palestine area during the war to the British. After WW2 the British and the USA gave the land back to Israel and the Jewish people. From that day forward Israel has been a sovereign nation and should have had the right to do with their land what they wanted. They made many a peace treaty with the Arabs for the sake of peace. During those peace treaties Gaza fell under Arab control politically. But Gaza was still a part of Israel. It never became its own nation. Biblically it never should!

Just wondering, is taking over Gaza going to reduce the cost of Eggs.....

Israel backs Trump plan and orders military to prepare for Palestinians to leave Gaza

Trump also said Israel will give us Gaza

So in theory you wish for the Palestinians to be like Native Americans. Make a treaty and then break it. You worded that in a very odd way.


Were you trying to say that Israel agreed to this as a part of the treaty? That this would be Palestinian land? It didn't just fall under Arab control.

1994: Gaza under Palestinian Authority

In May 1994, following the Palestinian-Israeli agreements known as the Oslo Accords, a phased transfer of governmental authority to the Palestinians took place.

Stop trying to rewrite history.

I love that photo.

Manifest Destiny 2.0

If you are not white financial elites, you are pawns to Trump and Elon. And they want the dumbest white population they can make for breed stock. Perpetual servant machines, until they refine those robots. They would wipe away nations, entire civilizations, to build condos and golf courses. And they say this as if there isn’t a thing wrong with that. Nah, they aren’t imperialist or fascist at all… Emperor Bozo Twitttler and his sidecuck Elon Himher.

Let's face it Swish, more of them than would ever admit it would expel all of us from the Unites States who do not share their view of what America should be if they thought for a single second they could get away with it.

you and i have been saying this very thing on the board for years. we already knew, but i am shocked about how many more existed in this country than i previously thought. it's definitely not some vocal minority that people attempt to dismiss.