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We spew what we’ve been fed and you don’t?? lol. I get it. That old expression “it depends on whose ox is being gored” applies. Your lefty buddies at usaid have been dispensing the tax dollars of hard working Americans to fit their view of the world. Being called on it now and you don’t like it . Get over it.

So we shall have to agree to disagree. As more and more examples come out about this spending it will be interesting to see the reaction of the left. Probably a lot of excuse making and “oh when you spend all hat money some of it goes to crap” responses. Gonna be interesting watching this play out.

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Many of them are simply pushing a social engineering agenda. Sorry my Lover friend, that just doesn't cut it in my book. I am all for providing food and medicine. I don't want people around the world starving or dying of measles when we can help prevent that.

And therein lies the problem. Much like yourself I have no problems with spending cuts. I think the #1 goal of USAID is to provide food and medicine to third world countries. I think most of the other expenditures should be cut. But that isn't what has happened. Musk shut down all funding to USAID. They took the sign down off the building yesterday. Food and medicine is sitting in ports with nobody to deliver them. Clinics are shutting down.

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I don't think anybody in here thinks the government has been running lean and mean since forever. You also have to remember that Presidents Clinton and Obama did some of the things that President Trump is doing. Clinton cut around 400,000 government jobs. Obama cut some but he was pretty strong on deportations. Nobody raised eyebrows about that, but Trump represents the "Evil Empire" so now it's a big problem for some.

Are you actually trying to make an equal comparison here? Who is complaining about making the government leaner? Who is actually complaining about being tougher on immigration? It's the methods being used and the extremes being gone to. When has anyone ever given ICE permission to go into schools and churches? When has anyone made it a crime for local police not to assist ICE? Dr. Phil on an ICE raid? Come on man.

What was supposed to happen is departments were to be studied and wasteful spending to be eliminated. That's not what is happening here. Musk has shuttered the doors of USAID. the sign was actually taken down from their office building yesterday. That's a problem even you admitted. If there's an infection in your finger a surgeon can cut out the infection. In this case Musk is the surgeon and he decided to cut off the entire hand.

That's the difference between this administration and former administrations and anyone taking an objective look at this can see it.

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Keep cutting. Dig deep. Where collateral damage occurs we can always go back and put it back on the books.

That seems like a very odd strategy. I wonder how many people will starve and die from disease over the actions Musk just took at USAID before this administration decides to "put it back on the books"?

Isn't doing it wrong in the first place and having to go back and fix it wasteful spending rather than just doing it right the first time?


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We spew what we’ve been fed and you don’t?? lol. I get it. That old expression “it depends on whose ox is being gored” applies. Your lefty buddies at usaid have been dispensing the tax dollars of hard working Americans to fit their view of the world. Being called on it now and you don’t like it . Get over it.

Then cut that part of their spending and continue aid in the form of medicine and food to the starving people of the world as was intended. Or is that a leftist thing too? Because that seems to be a big part of what you're applauding here since that's what happened.


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Whoa.!!! Do you have any company there in fantasyland???



No, just paying to the companies here in the US.


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Judge blocks Trump administration from placing 2,200 USAID employees on leave at midnight

Two foreign service unions sued the Trump administration over the move.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-temporary-order-blocking-trumps-dismantling-usaid/story?id=118585005

And before some of you go off the rails here about "those damned liberal judges", this decision was made by U.S. District Judge Carl Nichols -- a Trump appointee.

And we all know trump only hires the best people, right? At least that's what he told you.


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Originally Posted by keithfromxenia
We spew what we’ve been fed and you don’t?? lol. I get it. That old expression “it depends on whose ox is being gored” applies. Your lefty buddies at usaid have been dispensing the tax dollars of hard working Americans to fit their view of the world. Being called on it now and you don’t like it . Get over it.

So we shall have to agree to disagree. As more and more examples come out about this spending it will be interesting to see the reaction of the left. Probably a lot of excuse making and “oh when you spend all hat money some of it goes to crap” responses. Gonna be interesting watching this play out.

You are clueless ... Every post drips with your indoctrination to Cult or Trump.

"Your leftist buddies as usaid".... Get a fecking clue dude.

More and more examples?? There is not any "more" because as youve already spelled out ... All you have is STORIES


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What Elon is doing is illegal, period. And he is knee deep in trying to bring tech fascism to the world.

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What Elon is doing is illegal, period. And he is knee deep in trying to bring tech fascism to the world.

Anyone thinking Musk is doing anything to help the usa and has altruistic intentions is a complete fool.


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Hey Keith,

This is going to be a long post, and I am going to try and keep politics out of the majority of it, to perhaps turn the temperature down in the room. Honestly, one of the biggest problems we have is the line in the sand that has been drawn where there is instant reaction to something being good or bad, just simply based on who says it. Our brains instantly draw a conclusion and then look to justify the pre-drawn conclusion. That dynamic is RAMPANT.

I know there are many on the Right on this board who outright ignore me or who don’t pay attention to what I have to say, but I hope this post can at least be considered by many who at least have some semblance of an open mind.

On the issues:

1. Defense. I looked up Miller quotes, DoD, etc. to find what the latest and greatest was and I could not find anything. The only thing I found was Trump being lukewarm on investigating the DoD with DOGE.

Flat out, DoD is one of the biggest areas where money can be saved and where waste happens. It often does not get scrutinized because of how much money it routes to lobbyists, which then gets routed to campaign funds. Defense contractors are in EVERY state, and they are very powerful, holding a ton of leverage and have a lot of political cajones held in vices.
The one thing I did find when I was searching for DOGE and DoD was this:

“Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) came into existence with the pledge to slash red tape and dismantle the federal bureaucracy. Although it certainly hasn’t been free of controversy, there’s one group of people that have stars in their eyes: defense industry CEOs.
“We think this is a really good thing,” TransDigm (TDG) CEO Kevin Stein said on a recent earnings call, calling DOGE a “great opportunity” to streamline procurement at the Department of Defense (DOD) and Defense Logistics Agency (DLA).”

https://qz.com/elon-musk-doge-defense-firms-palantir-l3harris-boeing-1851755120

That is deeply concerning to me. Why is that concerning? Well, because Kevin Stein is one of the most deplorable people on the face of this planet. I don’t say that lightly, either. He and his Chairman, Nicholas Howley, run a company (HQ’d in Cleveland, sadly) that has ripped the DoD off over the entirety of their business entities far more than anything that has been uncovered by DOGE. Howley was even featured as part of the 60 Minutes episode on Price Gouging in the DoD.

Their actions were discovered via two different Inspector General reports in 2019 and 2021. Sadly, we will see less of these types of findings come out of IG offices due to their firings. Anyhow, they absolutely gouged the DoD, basically holding us hostage to the fact we need to equip our troops quickly, so we have to take their gouged prices in order to procure parts quickly enough.

This is where things do get somewhat partisan. I am concerned with where this is headed because Congress is controlled by majority Republicans at this point. Republicans came to the defense of Transdigm during both hearings in 2019 and 2021. If you don’t believe me, here is the video for everyone to see. You can just watch and see how Comer starts off his address at the hearing. Many of his colleagues follow suit.



I do expect a Republican controlled Congress to remain VERY defensive of contractors and price gouging practices in this realm.

This segues into the next topic:

2. USAID and saving money. It is small potatoes so far, and we’re not talking about a hundred billion here and there, but even smaller amounts, meant to capture headlines. It is also factual that a lot of the headlines that have been captured misrepresented the facts of findings.

When you want to save money, you go after the big areas first. That is just common sense. I do find it concerning that Elon turned his sights almost immediately toward one agency that was investigating his own company. That should raise flags for anyone.

What is even more at issue, though, is that everyone is ignoring the biggest problem of all while we chase down these DOGE headline rabbit holes: Congress.

The Constitution says, and I know from firsthand experience that Congress has the sole power to authorize funds and then appropriate money for those funds. One of the first things that they teach you whether you are in legal, contracts, finance, program management, etc. is that you have to follow the three principles of Time, Purpose and Amount. You have to use the funds that Congress gives you during the time period that they are available, for the sole purpose that Congress authorized/appropriated them for and in an amount no more than Congress authorized/appropriated those funds.

This is very serious.

Why is it very serious? Well, if you abuse that funding, even in the smallest of ways, you get slapped with things like an Anti-Deficiency Act violation. The write-up for that violation goes before the Speaker of the House, The President of the Senate (VP), and the desk of POTUS. Here are some violations that happened, if you’re interested. I believe one of them was for around $11 for a federal employee who opted to work during the last shutdown in 2019. Since the Government was shut down, there were no funds to “pay” him, so his working voluntarily broke the law. It’s really unbelievable, but true. There are other violations where things like office furniture bought for political appointees was too high. You can find that full report here:

https://www.gao.gov/products/b-333630

Why am I bringing this up? Well, in capturing all the headlines related to USAID and turning the gaze of the public on the employees who worked there was a red herring. Congress authorizes and appropriates money for USAID to spend and gives guidelines on how to spend, and those are later allotted. I can tell you firsthand the acquisition process that follows is very rigorous to make sure you are in compliance with fiscal laws.

So, who is the problem? It’s Congress. They are the ones appropriating the funding and those projects go toward things that were contemplated at the time of appropriations, earmarks, etc. USAID employees are just the scapegoats who got punished for it, because that also fits the false narrative that federal employees are the problem right now. Nobody in Congress is speaking up to that issue because they all have their hands dirty.

It's similar to how we used to laugh in DoD when Congress would haul in our generals and ask why we were wasting so much money here and there and everywhere. The truth of the answer was that we were spending the money in the manner in which Congress told us to. Then some headlines leaked and Congress tried to save face by yelling at us for doing what they told us to do. It’s kind of brilliant, really.

This is already my longest post ever, and there is a lot more I want to touch on, but I’ll only go onto one final point:

3. The stress of being a federal employee. You are right that I am stressed. Morale is damaged across the board. We are viewed as a scapegoat. There are a lot of things said about us that are blatantly false. Let me counter that with some facts, real quick, before I go into the rest of it:

Our total cost only accounts for 4% of the federal budget

The ratio of federal employees to the general public has steadily decreased over the past 50 years

Federal employees are paid 25% less than their private industry counterparts

A third of federal employees is comprised of veterans

On top of that, I really don’t like the comparison of federal employees to layoffs in the private sector. One, I can tell you that my office is at 87% of our employment goal and the freeze went into effect. Two, and perhaps to a greater point, is the rhetoric that surrounds us.

Please tell me the last time you saw a private industry company have to lay off their workers where the CEO and/or leadership of that organization said something along the lines of the following:

“We want to put them in trauma.”

“We ideally want to have no federal employees.”

“We want to get them out of the Government so they can be more productive in the private sector.”

Karoline Leavitt basically saying that federal employees who work at home are ripping off the tax payers

There are many more quotes and stories about it.

I think the way we have been treated, combined with the reactionary supporters, sets us apart from what you see in the private sector. We are pawns in a political game. The rhetoric toward us was sudden and it would be alarming to anyone, by objective standards. I am not necessarily worried about myself, but we are losing a lot of good people simply because they are remote. I am also losing a lot of good workers under me potentially both due to the trauma being caused by what is going on, the arbitrary nature of returning to work (without work stations available), and the fact so many promising young workers are not secured in their roles yet.

On top of all that, like I mentioned with USAID, we are also turning into the scapegoats of a corrupt, self-interested legislature that is more than content to throw us under the bus. The baseless and deplorable rhetoric used against us also seems to be parroted by many in the public who have no clue what it’s like being in our shoes, as well.
I feel like I could make this post ten times as long, but I will stop…for now at least.

Have a good weekend, Keith. You mentioned going to the doc recently. Hope all is well with you, my friend.


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Great post, you'll possibly get a 2 sentence response. Probably picking the least relevant part of the post apart. That's if u r lucky. I admire your persistence at trying to be civil to someone that is happy to throw so many insults baeed on incorrect information.


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Last time I checked the US is roughly 34 trillion dollars in debt. If I were the sitting president I wouldn't spend a single PENNY on programs supporting foreign nations. All funds should go towards areas of mental health, helping veterans, and the homeless. Also, if we spend that much on aid then why don't we just shift it to a national healthcare program instead?

I love how people think there is a supply of unlimited money and are perfectly fine with spending funds we don't have. Every US citizen should be 100% okay with auditing every federal agency EVERY year. I don't want my tax dollars being spent on foreign aid before helping people here at home.


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It’s not that simple.

There are definitely cuts that can be made in places, and - once again - I will mention there are simple procedures we can use to get more bang for our buck and stop a lot of the hemorrhaging in our every day spending.

However, a lot of the power that we project internationally (political, military, economic, diplomatic) has a direct correlation to how well our economy functions as a whole.

The two biggest things we need to combat are 1) Stop greasing the palms of the puppet masters and 2) focus on wealth gap and revenue shortfalls.

Swish puts it best. We can’t keep socializing losses and privatizing gains.


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What they are advocating, whether they know it or not, is that a nation like China should fill the void we leave behind. That our footprint be smaller around the globe and that it will increase nations influence like China and Russia's. They can't see that this is a small investment but rather they see it as a waste.

It amazes me how their "Christian values" seem so quickly and easily abandoned.


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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-state-revival-as-us-aid-cuts-loom-syria

Nothing to worry about. An Islamic state Resurgence should make everyone very happy after trump's and musks decisions.


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China is already licking their chops at our USAID divestitures.


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There is most certainly wasteful spending at USAID just as there are at all government agencies. I haven't seen one person deny that, think or state that such wasteful spending should be stopped. That's what "we were told" would happen. That's not what is happening. Some seem to support that we just close agencies and we'll "figure the rest out later". Later may just be too late. Making excuses to simply cut off food and medical supplies to third world countries will come at a cost. Not only in the form of human life but increasing China and other enemies of the United States by simply gifting them power and influence around the globe. All they have to do is fill the void this administration has granted them voluntarily.

We were told that agencies would be studied and afterwords the wasteful spending in those programs would be cut from their budgets. Something I'm sure we would all agree with. But the rules were changed on what they promised and now we have so many acting as if it's perfectly fine.


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Originally Posted by dawglover05
It’s not that simple.

There are definitely cuts that can be made in places, and - once again - I will mention there are simple procedures we can use to get more bang for our buck and stop a lot of the hemorrhaging in our every day spending.

However, a lot of the power that we project internationally (political, military, economic, diplomatic) has a direct correlation to how well our economy functions as a whole.

The two biggest things we need to combat are 1) Stop greasing the palms of the puppet masters and 2) focus on wealth gap and revenue shortfalls.

Swish puts it best. We can’t keep socializing losses and privatizing gains.

and on top of that, I think that many people just are too short sighted to look at all the different aspects of cuts like USAID. One person on a plane with a hard to fight TB case could trigger a whole wave of illness.
The USAID in 2020 was spending about 2.1 billion buying crops from our farmers to send overseas. That was before Pres Biden put a ton of money for rural infrastructure for rural water, wastewater in the Infrastructure bill. There were additional programs for farmers for upgrades-one farmer on tik tok talks about the NRCS program that monies were pulled in the last couple weeks even after there were agreements and the farmers spent money to get started. No, trump stiffed them on monies already spent and the program was stopped.
Between the subsidies stopping, the immigration action and tariffs maybe coming-especially potash from Canada and retribution from other countries not wanting to buy our crops-the farmers are basically going to get wiped out.

But, the farmer on tik tok and most rural folks probably vote about 70-80% red, so I guess they all want these changes. I mean the one on tik tok said that trump said he knew nothing about project 2025 and he believed him-So, he fafo and now may lose his farm....




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DES MOINES, Iowa —
An Iowa farmer says he's concerned about the state's agriculture industry following efforts to dismantle the U.S. Agency for International Development by the Trump administration.

President Donald Trump is conducting a sweeping review of the agency that has provided humanitarian aid to foreign countries in need since the 1960s.


The biggest changes to the agency took place over the last few days, leading to layoffs and furloughs of thousands of USAID employees and contractors, the shutdown of programs around the world and the USAID website being taken down.

The Progressive Farmer estimates that USAID is responsible for about $2 billion in U.S. Agriculture commodity purchases annually for humanitarian food aid. Reuters reports that the U.S. has already stopped purchases for foreign food aid programs.

FILE - A man walks past boxes of USAID humanitarian aid at a warehouse at the Tienditas International Bridge on the outskirts of Cucuta, Colombia, Feb. 21, 2019, on the border with Venezuela. (AP Photo/Fernando Vergara)Trump administration takes control, shuts down USAID
"USAID is important for farmers," Aaron Lehman, president of the Iowa Farmers Union, said. "It's unfortunate that we would drop those relationships that we built over time."

Lehman said Iowa plays an important role in providing foreign food aid through USAID. He said the agency works with the Department of Agriculture and with farmers to provide Iowa corn, soybeans and other commodities to countries overseas.

"The grain goes all over the world with USAID," he said. "How much of that comes from Iowa specifically? It's difficult to tell."

KCCI wanted to find out exactly how much product from Iowa is being purchased to aid foreign countries through USAID. KCCI reached out to the White House and the Office of Management and Budget to ask exactly that.

White House deputy press secretary Anna Kelly responded, but did not provide specific numbers. Instead, she wrote in a statement:

“President Trump is ensuring that taxpayer-funded programs at USAID align with the national interests of the United States, including protecting America’s farmers. He will cut programs that do not align with the agenda that the American people gave him a mandate to implement and keep programs that put America First.”

KCCI reached out to the governor's office as well as Iowa Secretary of Agriculture Mike Naig. Both declined to comment.

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Well said. And to link your post to mine, the problem isn’t the agencies or departments as much as it’s being made out that DOGE is rescuing us all from these deplorable government agencies with rogue, villain employees.

The problem is those who direct and appropriate the expenditures. This is akin to a CFO directing a company department to expend money in a certain way. Then the CFO calls in The Bobs to figure out how to lean out the company. The Bobs slash and burn that one department, throwing out any and all babies with the bath water. Yet the CFO is still there directing corporate expenditures…


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05, I am gonna read that post as soon as I finish war and peace.lol. But I wanted to reassure about one thing. Trump was interviewed by Bret Bair on Super Bowl Sunday. He said the below and I enclose it in quotation marks be cause I think I wrote it down accurately. He had spoken about education dept and then “ then I’m going to go into the military. We are going to find billions, hundreds of billions of dollars of fraud and abuse. The people elected me in that”.

I think he is serious. Hopefully they will involve people like you in the process. But beware. Your higher ups are going to start discouraging cooperation because it may cost jobs. I think a lot of pressure is going to be brought to hold the line. Good luck to you.

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Here is the deal….

Elon gets to set the narrative, and then the fact checkers get put on the defensive to prove him wrong…

Meanwhile the MAGA screams “Hell yeah and stick it to the libs”

Rinse and repeat until it gets neutered by the evil courts who follow the law.

Laws are just guidelines to be ignored.


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Isn't doing it wrong in the first place and having to go back and fix it wasteful spending rather than just doing it right the first time?

I don't see it as wasteful at all. Any way you cut it this stops the flow of money out the door for useless programs. I don't see how reinstituting various programs is wasteful.


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Also, this is a 90 day pause. The actual programs will be absorbed by various agencies. The AG Dept is fully capable over overseeing grain distributions.

People aren't going to die. They are just going to be saved by somebody else.


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No cuts needed to be made to any programs, period. What needed to be done is to tax the rich like everyone else. If the elite and corps paid their FAIR SHARE, we would have no deficit nor would we have such great wealth inequality. But hey, let’s not let facts get in the way of pure idiocy.

And yes, people will die. This is what fascist leaders do; they intentionally inflict pain to produce fear and compliance.

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I did actually see that quote after I did my long post. He didn’t really get specific or say that he was going after egregious profits. I don’t really know what to expect other than the unexpected at this point.

I also don’t expect my leadership to do anything wrong. The leadership I have in my own office is top notch. Congress on the other hand…


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No cuts needed to be made to any programs, period. What needed to be done is to tax the rich like everyone else. If the elite and corps paid their FAIR SHARE, we would have no deficit nor would we have such great wealth inequality. But hey, let’s not let facts get in the way of pure idiocy.

And yes, people will die. This is what fascist leaders do; they intentionally inflict pain to produce fear and compliance.

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Well DOTD, when you subtract the carrot from the stick and carrot situations THAT WE CREATED around the world… you better be prepared to use that stick because CHINA will provide the carrots. Yes, it will be on their dime as they reap resources in return on the global scale. Sometimes the stupidity on display from Trump’s admin is simply astounding. This case takes the cake.

And I know you are worried about how those trannies will survive without aid… Oh, sorry I used your trigger word when it’s mainly kids and people in dire need that will be punished… there were no condoms ordered for gaza.

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Isn't doing it wrong in the first place and having to go back and fix it wasteful spending rather than just doing it right the first time?

I don't see it as wasteful at all. Any way you cut it this stops the flow of money out the door for useless programs. I don't see how reinstituting various programs is wasteful.

So feeding and giving medicine to starving children around the globe is wasteful spending in trumplandia?

How may people do think will lose their life before they "reinstitute various programs"?

So in truplandia the answer is do it wrong the first time than go back and fix it whenever you get around to it? How creative.


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trump has no concern or thought towards life lost. He didn't during covid. Wait untill RFK Jr gets in office and policies start killing Americans again.


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Tariffs and whatever the hell Elon is REALLY up to will kill people. That’s the whole thing, they want to induce pain, chaos, pandemonium, fear and confusion. Some of us see that. The oblivious roil in it.

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trump has no concern or thought towards life lost. He didn't during covid. Wait untill RFK Jr gets in office and policies start killing Americans again.

Bird flu is trump’s next health crisis. Just another “Donny”brook under his watch. With prices skyrocketing again trump’s inflation is growing. Remember when Biden got it under control? Now this. Pffft Trump lovers. SMH


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We’re just lucky it’s not something like covid killing millions of people. We’d all be shoving lights up our asses and drinking bleach because he thought of it once.

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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
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Isn't doing it wrong in the first place and having to go back and fix it wasteful spending rather than just doing it right the first time?

I don't see it as wasteful at all. Any way you cut it this stops the flow of money out the door for useless programs. I don't see how reinstituting various programs is wasteful.

So feeding and giving medicine to starving children around the globe is wasteful spending in trumplandia?

How may people do think will lose their life before they "reinstitute various programs"?

So in truplandia the answer is do it wrong the first time than go back and fix it whenever you get around to it? How creative.

Just stop.


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I know how it must bother you when I point out exactly what it us you've been saying.

According to you just shut down aid that will end up killing innocent children and then they can go back and fix it whenever they get around to it. But let's rush people back to work because those poor landlords will suffer.

Don't blame me for the things you advocate. It sounds disgusting doesn't it?


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
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Isn't doing it wrong in the first place and having to go back and fix it wasteful spending rather than just doing it right the first time?

I don't see it as wasteful at all. Any way you cut it this stops the flow of money out the door for useless programs. I don't see how reinstituting various programs is wasteful.

So feeding and giving medicine to starving children around the globe is wasteful spending in trumplandia?

How may people do think will lose their life before they "reinstitute various programs"?

So in truplandia the answer is do it wrong the first time than go back and fix it whenever you get around to it? How creative.

The answer in trumpandia is to do it wrong the first time, promise to fix it, then ignore it


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What Elon is doing is illegal, period. And he is knee deep in trying to bring tech fascism to the world.

Musk is really no different than Harry Hopkins was to FDR.


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Looks a lot like DOGE, Musk and Trump were NOT forthcoming...

https://www.factcheck.org/2025/02/sorting-out-the-facts-on-waste-and-abuse-at-usaid/

Fairly typical.... Republicans that are tied to MAGA (note the distinction) jump to conclusions that are not supported by facts.. Then they put on a hissy fit if you call them on it....

Every elected official swore to uphold the constitution. Now they are ripping it up to push a NAZI like agenda,

The real traitors to America are those that are destroying it.

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Im trying to think of a word I can't recall....prop.... propa...propap? .hmmm can someone help me out. It's used by Russia and was also used by Hitler....anyone?


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Propadictatorup? Propapoopfeed? I’m radical so I can say propaganda until my face is dem blue and they won’t listen. Sometimes I wish Republican Jesus would tap in… I’d like to see them call him a radical lefty.

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I sense panic in the room

I simply don't get all the resistance to cutting the pork in the budget. We are blowing through money like drunken sailors on shore leave.

Here is the deal on Musk. He has been appointed by the President to audit the various agencies to expose the unnecessary spending. Musk isn't the person deciding on what gets cut and what doesn't.

Also, every President since Washington has had appointed advisors. Cabinet members have to go through Senate confirmation. Advisors don't. Close aides don't. Unelected officials have been around every President helping to set policy. This isn't an OMG moment. Quit running around like your hair is on fire....it isn't a good look.

I get why some of the Dems are screaming and cussing like petulant children. Nobody likes it when their playpen money is taken away.


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