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This guy is a brit economists and has been right for a while now:

This reminds me of your "Prepare for Bloodshed" thread.

So I have to ask... Will the economic collapse be before or after the Civil War?

J6 was no joke.

And the economic collapse is happening now. When you realize how much wealth the rich have taken, you might be able to understand why it was never immigrants, the poor, or any other targets your corporate news overlords aimed you toward. A tax system that dismantles the strangle hold on our economy by mega corps and the elite is the best punch we have left to preserve people’s right to live a decent life. But you seem happy with your life and your crumbs, so I’m happy for you. I’m just trying to tell you the rich still aren’t satisfied… they are coming for your crumbs.

If that makes me cra cra, then that’s what I am… that and 100% correct just like when I told you J6 would be bloody… You blah blahed it and called me radical or some other nonsense protecting the perps. People died as a result. And here you are stroking your MAGA-hood trying to say what we all saw with our own eyes wasn’t real. Your math ain’t mathing. And your opinions are meaningless to me.

In a way you are right, even if you arrive at the thought without knowing why it is happening.

It's happening because we are being crushed by debt and have very little control over what the country spends. The answer we have followed for 40 years is to print more money.

Every time we do that it makes the money already out there less valuable.

It's really no different than the family who keeps getting deeper and deeper in to their credit card. Once that is maxed out, they go out and get another credit card.....like printing money.

Sooner or later it isn't sustainable.

And they're still dong nothing to fix it.

While homelessness and hunger rises nationwide under Trump. No plan on fixing that at all in his agenda. Remember when conservatives were all up in arms about inflation and the cost of living just a few months ago? All of them all worried about the poor folks getting by. Remember? Pffft. Gopers.

Wait for it…. Biden Biden Biden.

I disagree. They are finding all sorts of boondoggle spending and cutting it off.

Look, nobody likes cuts. I think everybody has been there at some point in their life. I know I have.

We all want the full cable package with all the premium channels, but if you can no longer afford things, you have to start cutting costs. Maybe you have to go to the basic package of 20 channels.

Fixing it in the old thinking was to print more money and worry about it later. Now, it is identifying the waste and also looking at what needs to be cut.

Getting spending in line with the reality of the situation is the only real fix, and you know it.

The problem we face is the average American likes to think buy American and support American workers, but they live in a Wal-Mart mentality. Union workers buying non union goods. You don't see the issue here?

I am speaking in general terms here and not addressing you so much, but it is time for people to walk the walk or shut-up.

The entire thing about "So you don't care they're paying immigrants poverty wages?" thing was hilarious. Now they advocate they be called gang members with no evidence it's true and sent to a prison in El Salvador and Guantánamo Bay.

And having a tantrum because a judge expects them to show they're actually gang members first as trump's lawyers fight even doing that much.

But if they are illegally in this country, we have every right to expel them, so there is that. We shouldn't have to fight to prove they are gang members. All we have to show is they are here illegally. Sorry man, you are on the wrong side of the issue here. At worst they are illegal criminal gang members. At minimum they are illegal aliens. Either way we have the right to ship them out of town.

And for the record, I am not in favor of just shipping everybody out. If they are here being productive members of our society we need to find an expedited way of giving the legal status.

Heck, we have large segments of our legal population who are pretty much useless members of society. I'd like to ship them out.

Dude, there are a lot of people thrown into homelessness because of sweeping cuts and layoffs every year. I can only imagine how these numbers will grow now. And you compare it to a cable package downgrade. Geez. Ok bro.

Are you playing dumb here? Who said a single word about not deporting them? I didn't. Nobody in this thread did. You seriously can't see the difference in "deporting them" and " sending them to a prison in El Salvador and Guantánamo Bay" without providing proof they are gang members?


I've been saying that all along.


Don't be surprised if trump joins you in trying to expel actual citizens he doesn't like.

Murica! Freedumb!

The evidence that they are sustaining cuts is suspect, at best. Nobody can say it with specificity at this point. At some point, however, we will have to look at where our spending/deficit/etc is. Also need to factor in the desired revenue cut that this administration espouses.

Really what it'll come down to for all of us - left, right or center - is we need to look at an objective, cumulative was-is comparison of spending, deficit and revenue and see if we're actually better off or not.

I understand the economics, but also see the root cause. Elite agendas and elite handouts.

Our massive debt is from the rich not paying their share and getting trillions in handouts. Money must flow, not just in…. Welfare Kings. This is Reagan’s legacy biting us in the ass… 45 years of trickle down ponzi scheme.

I’ve got zero issues with removing those illegally here by deporting them to their country of origin or another country willing to take them in. NOBODY deserves to be sent to El Salvador prison labor camps and Guantánamo Bay torture facilities for being here illegally. Now if those gang members committed murder or compatibly severe crimes, then El Salvador and Guantánamo Bay… but only in those proven in court instances. And that still may be unconstitutional.

Not that I 100% disagree with many people being useless, but stripping them of citizenship is fascist af. We need to make education and job training a high priority and invest in that ‘useless’ class to make them productive. Imagine how many Einsteins we’ve wasted by the way we educate… who knows what the world could be if we started giving a damn about the individual again and stopped praying to the profit godz.

And if you want low crime, create more opportunity. It’s so stupid simple and obvious but the rich don’t want anything that helps people. Many of our major issues have simple non-complex solutions, but the lack of common sense in the DC LOBBY-VERSE is unhinged. Just like now, two trillion in tax breaks for the elite on the backs of the poor is ridiculous and absurd. That must be off the table now. And an agenda that thinks of people first from the bottom up, taxing the elite, is how we get back to the prosperity of the 50s. It’s the ONLY way we get there.

Gitmo and San Salvador are the new world concentration camps for US.

Not for long. Doesn't seem like we'll need them.





We NeEd An AcT oF cOnGrEsS!!

We do need an act of Congress... because that's how our laws work. 1 dude scrawling his signature on a blank piece of paper isn't a law (it is in some countries, though... is that what you're after?).

I don't know if you saw either Tweet you just responded to -- we obviously didn't need an act of Congress to secure the border. Didn't need an act of Congress to open the doors wide and roll out a red carpet, didn't need one to shut that ish down.

The one wrinkle in this whole situation that you both are ignoring is the total lack of due process.

We're now hearing stories of people who have been shipped to ES that are here legally.

https://www.npr.org/2025/03/27/nx-s1-5341544/ice-el-salvador-jerce-reyes-barrios

Maybe they're lying and they are, in fact, part of the gang. IMO, that's kinda irrelevant as they weren't allowed due process.

are the stories real? we will find out...

Of course they are. I just explained the first step in what they are doing.

You have to identify the problems first.

I am all for education. I have been a proponent of that for years. College is great for those who go and actually get a meaningful degree. The problem is many go who have no real reason to go. They get some useless degree with little hope of getting out of debt.

Our public schools are a mess. We are teaching all kinds of woke crap, and educational crap that isn't going to help many. Let's face it, by the 8th or 9th grade you know if a student is a good pupil or not. After that point many of those kids aren't learning anything that is going to help them in an everyday context. They turn off and ride it out for 2-3 years or they drop out.

We need to divert those kids in to work training programs. The old technical school platform. Get them working half days in apprentice type programs. We need to keep them engaged. The really brilliant kids are always going to be that way. They are going to go on and become Dr's, engineers, programmers, chemists, etc. God Bless them, we need them.

We can't forget the other kids because we still need mechanics, plumbers, chefs, care workers, etc., etc. God Bless them, we need them.

NAZI FASCIST PRISON CAMPS WILL HAVE THAT EFFECT! WONDER WHY THE US NEVER DID THAT BEFORE? Derp…

You seem to think they care about how the law works. They don't. They think trump is a king and everything should be done by decree.

Today, the day after “Liberation Day”, the dow fell 1679 pts. I think this is just the beginning. Companies are announcing layoffs and cut backs now. The world wide markets are reacting. I expect the dow to fall another 1000 or so tomorrow. If this is winning, tell me how.

It's almost as if operating via EOs isn't a consistent and reliable way to ensure something stays fixed... isn't it?

It isn't, but in a polarized political climate it seems the only way to get things done...at least for 4-8 years.

Just a non-political observation. No matter which party brings up something, the opposite party automatically thinks it sucks.

It isn't good, but that's where we are at.

It may go down for a while. But soon the bargain hunters will start hunting and off set much of this.

How will this help, I explained in another thread, but it will bring jobs back onshore. Real jobs. Not just service jobs. But, it will take some time. It isn't going to happen in a matter of weeks, or even months.

We had a nice conversation the other day, I appreciated that. I hear you talking about the rich not paying a fair share. Before we can actually determine that, what exactly do you and others consider rich? I know we will have answers all over the board.

I know we all consider people like Musk, even Haslam being super rich. I also think that people making 50K a year don't consider people making 100K a year rich..at least I hope not

I also understand that people making 15K a year might consider people making 30K a year rich. I hope we can all discount that view.

corporations are not people, so stop comparing an entity's profit to individual salaries, especially when those same entities increase their revenue by forcing employees to work longer hours for less effective pay, regardless of profitability. anybody making anything less than 250k is gonna feel the negative effects of this nonsense. it's the people running things at the top that don't pay their fair share. not some CPA, Doctor, or fast food worker with rent/mortgage like everyone else.

That's how a comprehensive immigration bill was defeated. Because trump said so. We got there because trump put us there.

So, at 1:45 pm the dow is down another 1600 almost 1700. Peen, what you are seeing is the crash the billionaires bet on. And when it hits it’s low, their will be bargain shoppers… the elite will buy much of it back at a huge discount. This is hitting 401ks with a reverse robinhood.

I'm bargain shopping now, does that make me a billionaire?

It makes you a fool if you buy today. We haven’t got close to the end of this free-fall.

So what. I'll be up 20% when the market's at 50000 in less than a year. When are you buying?

I don’t dabble. But I’d bet a hundred or a thousand that the dow doesn’t hit 50K in the next 365 days from today.

And that's the attitude that can never make America great again.....

"I'll be fine so to hell with everyone else!"

Hard to believe the same guy was crying about the price of eggs a few months ago.

Something that was told to me a while ago, and I believe it is true.

When things go in the tank, those with lots of money remaining go shopping for companies and investments.

Billionaires don't mind recessions, because they can make better gains on the flip side.

It's been that way forever, but modern fiscal policy has dampened the highs and lows, so people like Trump create them.

Cynical yes, but there is an underlying truth.

Yeah, that's what I said. Nice try. Again, nobody even takes you seriously anymore.

You and some of your cronies on here aren't "everybody" no matter how high and mighty you think you are.

It's odd how on one thread you can make claims that someone said something they didn't because "you know what they meant". But when the role is reversed? Not so much.

As you would say, "It's there in black and white for everyone to see."

Aaaaand now you're seeing ghosts again.


I said nothing about being "everybody", I said nothing that would indicate "high and mighty".

OCD said this was all a plot so that billionaires could sell all of their stakes and then strategically buy them back at the bottom. I said I'm buying now, he said this isn't the bottom, he even called me a fool for buying so early. I said it doesn't matter if you make 20%


Please describe the psychosis-induced gymnastics required to turn that into I'm high and mighty and better than everyone else. Try not to start with "you see" or "it's odd"... everybody here generally quits reading right after that.

Working class Americans for the most part don't have such an advantage and as much as it pains you to admit it you know that's true. But that doesn't seem to bother you............

So day two of the aftermath of “Liberation Day” we saw another 2300 point fall in the dow. A talking head said that’s in the neighborhood of 8 TRILLION dollars lost. Libertarians are turning on Trump. Some republicans are turning on Trump. Barstool sports guy had a melt down as he realized he was 7 million down. And some posters here at DT are saying, “More please!”… ycmtsu.

I expect at least one more day of significant falling as other countries will respond with counter-tariffs by the first part of the week. Cheers to $3500 iphones. Smh.

The reality of the Trump tariff policy is just beginning to sink in and it is not good.

There will be a lot of surcharge attempts to cover the additional cost of tariffs for imported goods that were purchased but not delivered when the tariffs went into effect.

Nike moved its production from China to Vietnam, and now gets slammed with a higher tariff.

I hope common sense takes over and Congress gets the courage to reverse the course.

This was just too radical of a change to drop without warning or an incremental approach.

It would take a monumental effort for Congress to break free. When you break from the admin, the wrath is swift and the wake is littered with corpses. Look at the House Republicans who voted for impeachment. Look at Mitch McConnell, once arguably the most powerful Republican, sitting completely neutered. Romney is out.

You’re either dead in the water, like the people I just mentioned, or you’ve completely capitulated (Rubio, Vance, Graham et al). Very, very few still remain. And the ones who do, still provide some minimal amount of lip service.

I don’t think Republicans would turn against Trump in full until they were absolutely sure if self preservation, which is the goal the vast majority of our politicians in general have above all else.

History will not be kind to these MAGA traitors.

bro he messed with old white money. not rich white guy money, OLD white money. Even i know thats a big no-no.

WE are three months into 48...or....more cuz Trump going to change Constitution....and we much greater now than before.....all our institutions are humming and everyone is working together now that border is secure....inflation- fixed, stock market- up, Trump won another golf championship.....all is GREAT. Right.

You are smoking some good stuff there.

So far I've made it through this current administration sober. But it takes a lot of willpower.

Originally Posted by hitt

WE are three months into 48...or....more cuz Trump going to change Constitution....and we much greater now than before.....all our institutions are humming and everyone is working together now that border is secure....inflation- fixed, stock market- up, Trump won another golf championship.....all is GREAT. Right.

FIFY… I knew you were being sarcastic, some didn’t.

“On one side, the president is reordering trade,” Bessent said. “On the other side, we are shedding excess labor in the federal government, and bringing down federal borrowings.”


“That will give us the labor that we need for the new manufacturing,” Bessent continued, arguing artificial intelligence and automation would limit how many workers needed to fill new jobs.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/bessent-federal-layoffs-help-fill-183714090.html

I don’t want to share my immediate reactions to the article, so I’ll just ask, what does everyone think of this?

I could swear somebody said we were getting ready to hit automation-ai-robot era in manufacturing a few months months ago, and that these billionaires are taking steps to insure they control and profit from it while we get to fight over scraps… damn radical lunatic lefty conspiracy BS.

And why would they think the laid off federal workers, mostly white colar jobs, would make good robotic automation techs? I smell BS. We are all about to be thrown to the wolves.

I think it's just more crap being spewed as per usual. New factories will be built with automation far more than workers. And why would college educated people want to work in factories doing manufacturing jobs? This smokescreen is so easy to see through it isn't even putting off smoke.

That all sounds great but none of those things happen overnight. That "excess labor" is going to have to wait a while until all these new mfg plants get set up... if they ever do.

Because AI essentially nullifies the average 4 year degree. AI and modernization can replace most of those jobs in an office environment. That’s the only thing I can think they are thinking. They are so stupid, Elon probably has them thinking we already have SUPER intelligence.

I wouldn't worry about that OCD!!! Probably safe there!

I'll take payment in Bitcoin!

Bitcoin loses half its value in three months amid crypto crunch

World’s most prominent cryptocurrency peaked at $126,000 in October 2025, only to see its value slump steeply

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/feb/05/bitcoin-cryptocurrency-slump

You may wish to rethink that.

I bought Bitcoin - it went up by 30% in about a month when I did. And then it went down. I had to sell in the end - broke even or maybe 10% up over 8-10 months. would have got back in if I could have about 2 years ago.

I have no real or deep understanding of how or why it goes up or down - other than sometimes Musk talking about how he was going to accept purchase of Tesla cars with Bitcoin at one point - It's a speculation play. I have had friends who are believers explain it to me - and as a world currency it makes some sense. As a finite supply it makes sense ... but the other cryptos are not finite. The other cryptos seem to spawn like weeds and blow hot or cold like fashion. That's hard for me to wrap my head around.

All that said - if Bitcoin has lost half it's value over the last 3 months. . . it probably means it will double in value at some point over the next 24 months. That's not guaranteed - but with a chunk of investment money you can afford to lose, it's not a bad speculative play.

Are you still supporting a convicted felon and apparent pedophile?

Or a guy that caused an insurrection?

Or do you still believe that it was Antifa paid by the lefty George Soros?

I think your elevator got off at the wrong floor; he was talking about Bitcoin.

He mentioned truths about "the guy running our country". Bitcoin has no product, it is purely a piece of paper or coin which "someone" says is worth X. It is for folks who have to much money or not enough and what you to buy into the con. Trump started one so he can fleece same people again. Peace.

Can a MAGAt tell me what they voted for? Trump put US here. He’s had over a year now. And he finds the time to post a meme of Barrack and Michelle depicted as apes. How do sleep at night supporting this despicable person.

Hiring down. Layoffs starting to happen. Job seekers having a hard time finding jobs. Inflation still out of control. Automobile costs up and repairs have tripled. Insurance on homes, cars, and health are through the roof. Groceries prices still climbing. Restaurant prices still climbing. All while Ice is murdering US in the streets.

Don't forget Donald Trump is a good Christian, sells bibles with his name on it, but can't/won't qoute a single passage that has mean to him. His answer- all of it. He hates many, but claims Christian belief. I hate no one, we are all made in God's image, but we can dislike people for how they conduct their lives. Peace.

No the elevator is working just fine. But a person that supports a man who is a convicted felon and a suspected Pedo... So why should I take anything he says seriously... Bitcoin or the weather of the price of Rice in China.

Ahhh. So, #TDS. Got it. Here, you look like you need something to warm your diaper.

This is pointless because the convo has already gone off the reservation....

But, (IMO... so a HEAVY dose of FWIW), bitcoin is interesting because much of what people argue makes it "fake" or a scam is the same or at least a little too close to "legit" currencies. I'll also go ahead and admit that at least a portion of my opinion is probably due to an overly-simplified view of the whole crypto thing. I got the "elevator speech" on crypto and decided it wasn't for me.

Personally, I'm not a fan because it's current actual use is 100% for speculation. The dream was to make a new currency not tied to any central banking system... the timeline for this is still stuck in its infant stage. I never could wrap my brain around a currency that was 100% digital....


So the part of your post ("it is purely a piece of paper or coin which "someone" says is worth X") isn't, if I understood correctly, correct. Crypto is actually less than that. But when you think about it, most (if not all) modern day "legit" currencies really aren't all that different. We see plenty of these currencies lose significant value like bitcoin has here. I guess the only real difference is larger currencies have systems and governments that have a vested interest in keeping them propped up.

There you go, projecting again

Ya know what, You don't see me or people that think like me putting 10 foot flags on our Pick up trucks. You don't see us wearing stupid red hats or jackets.. We don't act like some politician is our Lord and Savior.. We don't profess our never ending love for a politician... Any politician. Especially those that have committed crimes and have been convicted of said crimes.

Those with TDS are those that support that politician. So no, I'm not suffering from TDS.. Not even a little...


Oh, TDS isn't a recognized syndrome. It's made up by idiots that use it to bash those that don't think like them.....

Ah. TDS. That 12 year old BS every trump supporter repeats when they have no defense for the things he says and does. Somehow they think it makes them smart to blame others for bringing up what a POS trump really is.

TDS = I got nothing.

The economy is softer than Jello.

The economy has finally run out of Biden Bucks coupled with keeping interest rates too high for too long.

Companies are laying people off and calling it because of "Ai" - it's not. It's because the consumer demand no longer exists and credit cards are maxed.

Next up - lenders are going to start tightening the credit they were extending to everyone.

Realistically, the only thing that is saving the economy from a total meltdown is that companies blaming "Ai" for the layoffs.

LMAO... of course it was Biden's fault right? Or the Feds fault right .... Never ever ever ever Trump and his taxes (ermmmmmmm tariffs) and tax cuts and .... no no Never Trump.

You may wish to look at the deficit under trump as well. He's printing bucks too.

Trump Screams About Tariffs And Supreme Court Case

Trump spent the first 20 minutes of his Thursday speech on the economy repeating misinformation about his tariff policies, eventually just yelling the word while complaining about how those policies are currently under review by the Supreme Court.

Speaking at the Coosa Steel plant in Rome, Georgia, the president — who has repeatedly proven that he does not understand how tariffs work — told attendees that the country "would be in such trouble right now" if it weren't for his policies.

"TARIFFS!" he shouted. "And I got to be before a court, can you believe it?"

The Supreme Court could decide as soon as Friday on whether some of Trump's tariffs are unconstitutional. A ruling that shuts down the president's tariff agenda could provide consumers financial relief, according to economists, since they have bore some of the brunt of related costs.

"I have to wait for this decision. I've been waiting forever – forever. And the language is clear that I have the right to do it as president," Trump said. "I have the right to put tariffs on for national security purposes. Countries that have been ripping us off for years, you know what they were doing? Using tariffs! What a country, so sad."

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/late...LPM5Aknz0ARLk_aem_f9fmoIFVLpgN0levC9jxuA

Rumple Thinskin is screaming again because he might be held accountabe for trying to rule by decree.

This correction is a direct result of the gov handout to companies & people during covid.

this is correct. However, the biden bucks are the thing that put it way over the top.

Almost every economist warned them that this would happen years later.

Factually untrue. But never let facts get in the way of your political spin.

Stop trying to blame trump increasing the deficit now to what happened years ago. Covid ear programs are over and trump's 2025 spending increases the deficit. It's classic BDS.

2025 had nothing to do with Covid. The U.S. federal budget deficit for fiscal year 2025 was $1.8 trillion, according to the Congressional Budget Office

Higher than all but one of Biden's years (other than 2021 which was still covid).

Hence the statement that what was posted is PURE and UTTER fanboy lies.

oh yeah?

prove it.

https://www.newsweek.com/economist-...elp-bidens-plan-45-times-too-big-1568694

http://news.ucr.edu/articles/2021/03/08/navigating-19-trillion-stimulus


There are additional considerations. If a large one-off fiscal stimulus to deal with an unprecedented shock, such as the COVID-19 stimulus, is terminated at some clearly determined time, it is unlikely that there will be long-term consequences for inflation expectations. But large fiscal stimuli that will not be an exception but the norm in the post-COVID era could lead to more serious concerns about surge in inflation.

Furthermore, any rise in inflation in the U.S. can have international ramifications. For instance, it may dissuade European conservative leaders from adopting the fiscal stimulus to finance Europe’s recovery from the pandemic. And a big fiscal stimulus is perhaps even more important for Europe, where the economic impact of the pandemic has been worse and the recovery weaker than in the U.S.


https://www.cato.org/commentary/democrats-have-forgotten-first-lesson-pandemic-economics

Democrats Have Forgotten the First Lesson of Pandemic Economics

https://www.aei.org/op-eds/yes-the-biden-stimulus-made-inflation-worse/
Yes, the Biden Stimulus Made Inflation Worse

https://www.wral.com/story/fact-check-did-biden-s-government-spending-cause-inflation/20247768/
Fact check: Did Biden's government spending cause inflation?

Estimating the impact of the American Rescue Plan
No magic formula can reveal precisely how much the American Rescue Plan fueled inflation, but the general consensus is that it was a contributor. Some economists estimate that it added two percentage points to the rate, some say it added up to four percentage points. Put another way, out of the 8.5% rate in March, the measure accounted for something between one quarter to one half of inflation.



https://www.brookings.edu/articles/...s-of-bidens-1-9-trillion-fiscal-package/

The macroeconomic implications of Biden’s $1.9 trillion fiscal package

By late 2021, we would likely see the economy operating above its maximum sustainable level. That positive output gap would likely put upward pressure on inflation, which the Federal Reserve has said would be welcome. A risk worth noting is that the return of GDP back to its maximum sustainable level may create a difficult economic period after 2021. While our estimates show a “soft landing,” with a temporary and shallow decline in GDP after the fourth quarter of 2021, the slowdown could be more abrupt and painful than our projections suggest.





Arguments that the Biden administration's stimulus, particularly the $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan of 2021, harmed the economy later in 2024 center on fueling high inflation, increasing the national debt, and necessitating high interest rates.



Critics argue this excess demand contributed significantly to the cost-of-living crisis. Others argue the stimulus caused long-term inflationary pressure.



Inflationary Impact: The stimulus is widely seen as having contributed to a surge in demand, which, combined with supply chain issues, caused inflation to rise significantly between 2021 and 2024.
Persistent High Costs: While inflation cooled, the cumulative effect of price increases during this period left many Americans struggling with a higher cost of living in 2024.
Interest Rates: To combat the inflation partially caused by this spending, the Federal Reserve raised interest rates, leading to higher mortgage and borrowing costs for consumers in 2024.
Debt and Deficit: The high deficit spending, including the stimulus, is associated with a rising national debt, which can create long-term economic drag.

I agree with you on the Biden-era stimmies coming back to bite us now. That will be something that will be used against Dem candidates for a while.

What I'm wondering, though... is if that is such a big issue, then why is this admin goofing around on tariffs and exacerbating price/cost issues?

I'm just curious as to why people think programs that ended well before 2025 would be increasing the budget in 2025? The only program I know of that still had any financial impact on the 2025 budget was the continuing credits for Obamacare. I don't doubt that trump will still try to blame Biden for their own failures because that seems to be their go to move.

But people are so tired of hearing that excuse by now it's more like The Boy Who cried Wolf.

Policies that impact inflation aren't a light-switch. Current-day inflation is the result of policies rolled out years ago.

That's why the whole inflation argument is usually pretty dumb. The admin that has had to answer for inflation during their years is rarely the one that who enacted the policies responsible for the numbers.