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Good to see Chud sticking around...Really figured it would work out this way...
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It is no secret Dallas wants McFadden. Say Miami delivers McFadden to Dallas for both their 1st rounds...maybe a second and a future pick......Miami is also said to want Romeo and could use DA...a couple of first rounders for DA and Romeo....maybe Jason Taylor thrown in to sweeten the deal......who knows????
Damn peen. Are you hitting the Jack or are you just stirring the pot? I know you are too smart to actually believe this. 
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Good news....there may have also been a wink and a nod about us planning to promote from with-in for our next head coach.
And it could happen sooner then later.
Just to run with some of the talk of the last few weeks.
It is no secret Dallas wants McFadden. Say Miami delivers McFadden to Dallas for both their 1st rounds...maybe a second and a future pick......Miami is also said to want Romeo and could use DA...a couple of first rounders for DA and Romeo....maybe Jason Taylor thrown in to sweeten the deal......who knows????
Peen...I seriously doubt that Crennel is going anywhere. He has two more years on his contract and his agent is just trying to bring up his contract, attempting to negotiate from a position of strength. Any agent worth a damn would do the same thing given the same circumstances..a 10-6 season.
Yes, Parcells mentioned Crennel one time...that's all it takes to get the rumors running.
Concerning DA, Dolphins and trades...I said sometime ago that the fish would be smart to first trade that first pick to the highest bidder, then, if they are interested in DA, use the extra picks and a lower first round pick to go after DA...if they are interested.
With Parcells influence, I doubt that the Dolphins stay at #1 in the draft, given the teams needs.
All of this is speculation, of coarse...and it's ..jmho..WOOF...mac
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Wow, I sure am seeing some crazy prognositcations being made on here lately. And by some typcially credible people.  A 10-6 season has made some people go whacko!!
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Maybe we could get a 2nd round pick for Savage while we're at it ?.. 
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Wow, I sure am seeing some crazy prognositcations being made on here lately. And by some typcially credible people. A 10-6 season has made some people go whacko!!
Not to "pile on" as some around here cry about but, this is not the first time Peen has come out with outlandish theories like this and pretty soon he'll start talking about it like it's really happening. At least that's what he's done in the past when he's decided he doesn't like a certain person.
I don't see any great conspiracy, they just want to keep a good OC. No tin foil here!
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Thank goodness. I was so scared someone would him up. That was my #1 offseason priority locking up Chud.
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Maybe we could get a 2nd round pick for Savage while we're at it ?..
Jim Brown as a Chief Advisor could go at least for a high fourth.
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A 6-10...4-12...10-6 team with players into the Program DOES NOT dictate a HC being even considered fired...
And that is why you sometime tick me off....I didn't say anything about being fired. I said we may allow the Dolphins to talk to Romeo...that isn't fired......traded maybe... not fired.
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Peen...I seriously doubt that Crennel is going anywhere.
I doubt it too....just taking some of the info and half info out there and thinking out loud....tis that time of year.
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RAC and his agent are pushing for an extension through the media, and doesnt get it. Chud is quiet gets offered an interview with the Ravens and gets an extension.
Worse thing a coach can do is start pushing for an extension with 2 years remaining and doing it through the media, especially when u have 1 winning season in 2 years.
Where the heck did that come from... is that just an opinion?
And Peen,,, Unless this is true, it doesn't signal a damn thing..
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Crennel's agent talking to Browns about contract extension ESPN.com news services Coming off a 10-6 campaign that ended with the Browns narrowly missing the playoffs, the agent for Cleveland's Romeo Crennel is talking to the team about extending the coach's current contract, according to a published report. "It was really me calling them and just saying, 'Romeo is in his third year and he's obviously turned the program around. Is this going to be the guy that's going to be the face of the franchise and is he sticking around here for a long time?'" Crennel's agent Joe Linta told The Columbus Dispatch. "Obviously, if they don't end up doing something with him [within the next year], he'll end up becoming a lame duck." Crennel is currently in the third year of a five-year contract with Cleveland. He has a 20-28 record with the Browns. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3183795
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One other thing to consider....and I know a few of you will be able to follow this.
Declining to interview for a position is dumb.
Part of getting jobs is knowing how to interview for a job....declining to interview isn't a smart move unless we somehow gave Chud reason to believe he isn't going to need that experience.
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Declining to interview for a position is dumb.
Not when it`s the rat birds......
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I disagree D....it is still the experience of the process even if you don't want that job.
You can always turn it down.
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He has had interview experiance...Peen....Here twice and SD.....Plus others.....
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Not if Chud didn't want to send the wrong kid of message to the Browns' FO, and the fans and players also.
He might also feel he's not ready to be a HC... or he might NOT want a head coach job ever. It ain't for everybody.
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Just like someone else said, it's an agent trying to get the best deal for his client, which is his job. Just because some people don't like RAC as a coach, it could be skewed that he's going to be gone. But if the Browns continue to improve, I don't see a reason to get rid of RAC.
And, like I said before, it doesn't matter one bit what the coaches are paid. As long as they're paid enough to keep them here, there's no salary cap or anything like that.
But, to get back to the point at hand, I'm glad Chud's still here, if only because keeping continuity is so key.
*Edit* Also, if you think about it, a lot of guys in the league are probably thinking "why would I want to be a HC when I can still get paid a lot of money to be an assistant?" I mean, look at McDaniels in NE. He has a pretty nice little resume going up there, but he turns down the Rats interview.
Yeah, when you're the HC, you get to be in control of things. But it seems like truly strong teams have a HC who oversees things, but the coordinators and assistants truly run the team. I mean, look at Dungy. I'm sure he's very involved, but you know their OC controls that offense.
And the way a lot of teams are now that need HCs (Baltimore, Miami, Atlanta), who would seriously want to go there? Those teams have some serious problems and will need at least a few years to rebuild.
Just thinking out loud...
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Thanks Always. I am sure most wont read it. Its easier to believe that its all a great conspiracy.
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j/c
And, hey, as a Browns fan, maybe Chud wanted to give the proverbial finger to the Rats!
Just as plausible as any other reason!
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Great,, his agent is doing a good job for RAC... Trying to use what tools he has available to get him an extension.. I don't see even ONE negative thing and I don't think it signals anything other than an agent doing his job.. Please note, it's the agent talking,, nothing from the Browns yet.. What's so new about Agents talking to the press to try and set the stage for negotiations.
As for Chud turning down the Ravens interview.. hey,, if you don't want the job, why bother.. I don't buy into the practice interview thing.. I've been in the Employment business for 35 years,, Practice interviews are good for college kids, but by the time your 35 years old or more, if you don't know how to inteview,,,, you shouldn't get hired...
But, let's say that Phil went to Chud and said,, stick around,, you are our next HC when RAC retires.. Stay with us.
If Chud is stupid enough to buy into that,, then I don't want him as our HC...EVER
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He has had interview experiance...Peen....Here twice and SD.....Plus others.....
I didn't know he has interviewed for a head coach position.
I don't think he has.
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There is only 2 reasons i can see.
1 Ray Lewis is the coach of that team, he has to much power and a lot of people just wouldnt want to deal with that situation.
2. He believes he can get something better be it the Browns or elsewhere.
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I didn't know he has interviewed for a head coach position.
I don't think he has.
Did`nt specify the HC position...Interview expeiance...
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I've been in the Employment business for 35 years,, Practice interviews are good for college kids, but by the time your 35 years old or more, if you don't know how to inteview,,,, you shouldn't get hired...
Sorry man....that's bad advice.
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MOURG...
i don't doubt the agent is pushing for it...the agent isn't still being paid from RAC's last contract...he would be with a new deal...
but this trash about RAC becoming a lame duck without a new deal is a joke...you're not a lame duck if the team is coming off a winning season and the program is perceived to be headed in the right direction...plus, the NFL has proven that if things went sour next season, RAC's chances of being fired are pretty much the same, whether he signed an extension or not...
Browns fans are born with it...
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I don't think he has.
Did`nt specify the HC position...Interview expeiance...
I know....never been interviewed for a head coaching position, but I would assume it is somewhat different than what one would see for a coordinator position.
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I agree...I don't think RAC is in some lame duck position....he is still the HC of the Browns for 2 more seasons unless something changes.
You might be able to say he is in a lame duck position sometime 2 seasons from now.....but not now.
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Cleveland Browns offensive coordinator Chudzinski cancels interview with Baltimore Ravens Posted by Tony Grossi January 07, 2008 10:37AM Browns offensive coordinator Rob Chudzinski is staying put, for now.The Browns intercepted Baltimore's courtship of Rob Chudzinski with a new contract extension, The Plain Dealer has confirmed. Chudzinski was supposed to interview in Baltimore today for the Ravens head coach vacancy, but he telephoned Ravens General Manager Ozzie Newsome over the weekend and canceled. Chudzinski's wife, Sheila, gave birth to the couple's second child on Dec. 30, the last day of the season. Chudzinski told the Ravens he wanted to maintain his stability in Cleveland. Chudzinski was named Browns coordinator a year ago and originally was signed through 2010. The extension is believed to be for two more seasons. The Browns feared that Chudzinski would interview well in Baltimore and might have won the job. The Ravens felt Chudzinski would pair nicely with defensive coordinator Rex Ryan and his University of Miami background would mesh well with the current Ravens roster. A club source confirmed the extension but not the terms. http://blog.cleveland.com/sports/2008/01/cleveland_browns_offensive_coo.html--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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If Chud's reasoning was that he wanted to maintain stability here in Cleveland, why did he accept an interview in the first place?
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We need stability within this organization. We knew from day 1 RAC wouldnt be taking over and within three years have a winning record as the Browns head coach, so all the well RAC's record is this....dosent hold any water, no coach would have a winning record starting with what RAC did.
I'm all for signing RAC to a three year or more extension, not only will this help when we negotiate contracts with our exisiting players, but with the players likeing, respecting RAC it will show this organization is in for the long haul and show FA were serious about winning a Super bowl, thus making it easier for us to sign what we need.
To me players what two things...not always in this order
1. Money.....as much as they can get
2. A chance to play for a serious Super bowl contendor.
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Declining to interview for a position is dumb
So as a person who is being considered for a new postion on a new team, U think that person can't check out the senery and see if it's a place he'd WANT to go?
Suppose this is where he wants to be??
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Where did it ever say that he accepted an interview from the Ravens in the first place? The Ravens had to ask the Browns FO for permission to interview him and they accepted. But, to my knowledge, Chud didn't accept anything. He probably took a few days to mull it over but that was it.
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From Always's post just a few above:
"Chudzinski was supposed to interview in Baltimore today for the Ravens head coach vacancy, but he telephoned Ravens General Manager Ozzie Newsome over the weekend and canceled."
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Still not seeing where it says he "accepted" an interview from them. Here's how it works... Ravens want Chud in for an interview. Ravens ask Browns fO for permission. Permission is granted. Interview is set up. Chud thinks about it for a day or two. Decides against it. Calls Ozzie Newsome and says 'Thanks but no thanks.' End of story. Besides, waht difference does it really make now anyway. He's here, he wants to stay here. Glad to have him.
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I guess I just read it differently. I didn't know our FO set up Chud's appointment for him.
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To be honest, I don't know either. But what's so wrong about a guy changing his mind, if that's what indeed happened? He might have 'OKd' it at the time and then talked to his wife and thought things through and realized it wasn't what he wanted. Nothing wrong with that.
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Still not seeing where it says he "accepted" an interview from them. Here's how it works... Ravens want Chud in for an interview. Ravens ask Browns fO for permission. Permission is granted. Interview is set up. Chud thinks about it for a day or two. Decides against it. Calls Ozzie Newsome and says 'Thanks but no thanks.' End of story. Besides, waht difference does it really make now anyway. He's here, he wants to stay here. Glad to have him.
The interview being set up is the key that it was accepted by Chud. They worked out the best time that fit his schedule and theirs. That says to me that he accepted. You don't set up a day and time for an interview without both parties agreeing as to when it is to take place.
Great news that he didn't go to it, if they didn't hire him they would have at the least taken some info from him, either how our O works or how his mind works. Either way it leaves them with a shred less information about us and maintains that much of an advantage to our team (however big or little it is perceived to be).
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