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As far as I'm concerned he is just another camp body at this point. I don't see him as anything more than that.
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we have the most random roster lol
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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we have the most random roster lol Conceived on the fly, but with a smidge of forethought.
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So, let me ask 2 questions:
1) is Jerry Jeudy the #1 receiver on the team?
2) If he is, and I am going to debate anyone who disagrees, will you take issue with a second receiver that gets us 800+ yards and 5 TDs?
OK, I guess 3 questions... What are the expectations of receiver #2 and even receiver #3?
That is what you are getting in Johnson... 800 yards and 5 TDs as a starting receiver.
Waiting to hear the numbers, but this could be a good signing if he managed to be humbled and has his head on straight.
The other thing is Elijah Moore got an unrestricted tender, so if he doesn't sign with another team before the deadline July 21, he can only sign with the Browns and it's only $3.428M in 2025 salary. If he does sign elsewhere, the Browns will have him used in the compensatory calculation for next year. My guess is he will not sign elsewhere, so it is a fairly inexpensive 3rd receiver for the roster if he doesn't.. If he does sign, it should help us get a comp pick.
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He had a good 3 year stretch in Pittsburgh (21/22/23 (with Pickett) - before the wheels fell off. If he can get back to that, good signing.
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we have the most random roster lol Conceived on the fly, but with a smidge of forethought. Seems more like a skosh to me; but if you say smidge, it's a smidge.
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So, let me ask 2 questions:
1) is Jerry Jeudy the #1 receiver on the team?
2) If he is, and I am going to debate anyone who disagrees, will you take issue with a second receiver that gets us 800+ yards and 5 TDs?
OK, I guess 3 questions... What are the expectations of receiver #2 and even receiver #3?
That is what you are getting in Johnson... 800 yards and 5 TDs as a starting receiver.
Waiting to hear the numbers, but this could be a good signing if he managed to be humbled and has his head on straight.
The other thing is Elijah Moore got an unrestricted tender, so if he doesn't sign with another team before the deadline July 21, he can only sign with the Browns and it's only $3.428M in 2025 salary. If he does sign elsewhere, the Browns will have him used in the compensatory calculation for next year. My guess is he will not sign elsewhere, so it is a fairly inexpensive 3rd receiver for the roster if he doesn't.. If he does sign, it should help us get a comp pick. The date has changed to May 1st, so we will know by Friday. As I said elsewhere, it's a decent signing. It has some potential upside, maybe big. It also carries some potential downside. Being this might be his last chance, we stand a good chance to see the good Diontae. If not, it won't be hard to wash our hands.
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That’s just it, I wouldn’t call it the wheels falling off. He was leading the Panthers in receiving the first third of the season when they traded him out of nowhere, went to the Ravens and couldn’t get on the field and that’s when he got fired up and demanded they cut him, which they obliged. He then got picked up by Houston and same situation as Baltimore. I can’t quite figure out what happened those final several weeks of the season, but if he’s past that, then he shows a propensity for 800+ yards and 5 TDs.
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So, let me ask 2 questions:
1) is Jerry Jeudy the #1 receiver on the team?
2) If he is, and I am going to debate anyone who disagrees, will you take issue with a second receiver that gets us 800+ yards and 5 TDs?
OK, I guess 3 questions... What are the expectations of receiver #2 and even receiver #3?
That is what you are getting in Johnson... 800 yards and 5 TDs as a starting receiver.
Waiting to hear the numbers, but this could be a good signing if he managed to be humbled and has his head on straight.
The other thing is Elijah Moore got an unrestricted tender, so if he doesn't sign with another team before the deadline July 21, he can only sign with the Browns and it's only $3.428M in 2025 salary. If he does sign elsewhere, the Browns will have him used in the compensatory calculation for next year. My guess is he will not sign elsewhere, so it is a fairly inexpensive 3rd receiver for the roster if he doesn't.. If he does sign, it should help us get a comp pick. The date has changed to May 1st, so we will know by Friday. As I said elsewhere, it's a decent signing. It has some potential upside, maybe big. It also carries some potential downside. Being this might be his last chance, we stand a good chance to see the good Diontae. If not, it won't be hard to wash our hands. My bad, I thought the May 1st date was for waiting to sign Johnson. If they waited until May 1, HE wouldn’t count in compensatory equation for Baltimore.
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The signing does not hurt - it might help a lot. I have not followed him closely but kjnow he had some good years early in his career.
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The signing does not hurt - it might help a lot. I have not followed him closely but kjnow he had some good years early in his career. Again, that was just two years ago. He ended up playing on 3 teams last year, then the Ravens picked him up again to try to include him in the compensatory calculations. He is only one year removed from having 5 years in a row of at least 680 yards and all but one of those seasons he had 5+ TDs. Last season he through the first 7 games, before being traded, he had 357 yards and (3) TDs. (project that out over 17 games, he is in his normal range of 867 yards and 7 TDs). After the trade he had 18 yards and 0 TDs. What happened to the second half of the season, that's what the big question is. If that is resolved, then expectations should be back to 800 yards and 5-7 TDs. He's only 28 yrs old. I think Flacco can find ways to use him with a full off season in the offense. His rookie year he came in and produced 680 yards and 5 TDs. That is a lowest yardage production year of his career before the second half of the season hit last year. All indications are that he should be a productive #2 receiver.
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Diontae needs a timing QB. He's a good route runner. He was good with Big Ben because of that. Lamar/Bryce were not a good fit for him.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Diontae needs a timing QB. He's a good route runner. He was good with Big Ben because of that. Lamar/Bryce were not a good fit for him. So, it bodes well for him with Flacco and this offense.
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Didn't I just read where Elijah Moore just signed with Buffalo?
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Didn't I just read where Elijah Moore just signed with Buffalo? Yes, he signed yesterday for $5M 1 yr deal.. Which means he will be included in the compensatory calculations for the Browns, but will not help the offense. I would rather have him in uniform than a comp pick.
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Maybe the best thing about being a “final destination” team, the last-chance stop for some players before being shown the league door is that if they have any sense at all they’ll straighten up and fly right. So we sometimes land talent value in exchange for career reclamation. Hope this is one of those cases because this team is both hopelessly drawn to and yet desperately needs to avoid more drama.
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I certainly agree with your assessment as well as your sentiment, We seem to be addicted to media madness and controversies of all kinds this tent. We would love to showcase a circus of performers and talents, wowing the Land. But we are addicted to the spectacle of sideshow freak shows instead. The big names and the minor contributors are all amplified by the media, speculation, untruths, and our addiction to rumors and real drama.
I believe that if there was an intervention and treatment program for the FO and friends and fans of the Bowns, it would have to be about a 25-step program. That number is because of our intensity and deep-seated love of the Browns. I have been chugging this Kool-aid for years and revel in my addiction despite all the episodes over the decades as we tried to "right the ship" while we "waited for next year"(again and again).
That said, I can't wait to get this season kicked off. Hope our hopes pan out.
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Maybe the best thing about being a “final destination” team, the last-chance stop for some players before being shown the league door is that if they have any sense at all they’ll straighten up and fly right. So we sometimes land talent value in exchange for career reclamation. Hope this is one of those cases because this team is both hopelessly drawn to and yet desperately needs to avoid more drama. That's what we keep thinking but it seldom works that way. That's because we're never truly the "last straw"; not for coaches, not for players. They can always move on the next year and both parties at the next table just shrug off Cleveland while they all have a nice laugh. We're usually just a check-writing pit stop.
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Maybe the best thing about being a “final destination” team, the last-chance stop for some players before being shown the league door is that if they have any sense at all they’ll straighten up and fly right. So we sometimes land talent value in exchange for career reclamation. Hope this is one of those cases because this team is both hopelessly drawn to and yet desperately needs to avoid more drama. That's what we keep thinking but it seldom works that way. That's because we're never truly the "last straw"; not for coaches, not for players. They can always move on the next year and both parties at the next table just shrug off Cleveland while they all have a nice laugh. We're usually just a check-writing pit stop. Or we get a greedy washed up player looking for a last paycheck....like Dwayne Bowe or that other receiver that came after him.
And into the forest I go, to lose my mind and find my soul. - John Muir
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Well you can thank jfan for reigniting that horror 
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Maybe the best thing about being a “final destination” team, the last-chance stop for some players before being shown the league door is that if they have any sense at all they’ll straighten up and fly right. So we sometimes land talent value in exchange for career reclamation. Hope this is one of those cases because this team is both hopelessly drawn to and yet desperately needs to avoid more drama. That's what we keep thinking but it seldom works that way. That's because we're never truly the "last straw"; not for coaches, not for players. They can always move on the next year and both parties at the next table just shrug off Cleveland while they all have a nice laugh. We're usually just a check-writing pit stop. Or we get a greedy washed up player looking for a last paycheck....like Dwayne Bowe or that other receiver that came after him. Or Andre Bad Moon Rison
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Maybe the best thing about being a “final destination” team, the last-chance stop for some players before being shown the league door is that if they have any sense at all they’ll straighten up and fly right. So we sometimes land talent value in exchange for career reclamation. Hope this is one of those cases because this team is both hopelessly drawn to and yet desperately needs to avoid more drama. That's what we keep thinking but it seldom works that way. That's because we're never truly the "last straw"; not for coaches, not for players. They can always move on the next year and both parties at the next table just shrug off Cleveland while they all have a nice laugh. We're usually just a check-writing pit stop. Or we get a greedy washed up player looking for a last paycheck....like Dwayne Bowe or that other receiver that came after him. Or we get a guy that runs someone over and kills them. Hi, Dante Stallworth. Or we get a guy that posts a bunch of pics of drugs on his coffee table and then loses his mind at the Miami airport and assaults some cops. We miss you, Davone Bess. Oh the memories!
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...or a guy that forgot he had a loaded gun in his carry on luggage. Shaun Rogers.
And into the forest I go, to lose my mind and find my soul. - John Muir
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