DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk 2025 NFL Draft Browns select QB Dillon Gabriel

and the reporter is also dumber than him....maybe the reporter needs reminded of that every time DG walks by.

I watched Good Morning Football on Monday and one of the squawkbox yappers was talking about our rookie QBs. Called Sanders by his name but said Gabriel should be called “the other guy” from now on.

Hopefully DG uses stuff like that as motivation.

Hopefully he's too busy putting in work to notice.

The media has been hanging on to Shedeur's jock strap ever since his daddy started pimping him at Colorado.

This is exactly right. So many talking heads are invested in proving their own rankings right over 32 GMs that they are going to hang on until he finally gets into a pro game. I think they secretly hope he never gets into so they can continue the theme that he never got his shot.

He gets his shot every single day in practice. If he never gets in it would be because he never earned that with the shots he got every single day, day after day after day.

He’ll be good or he won’t.
Time will tell. Right now we have five QBs - I’m including Watson but just barely - you know that old saying “if you have two starting quarterbacks, you don’t have any”?

We have five. Lol

We really only have 4. Watson will be on IR or PUP or something.

You’re talking about reality, not a media led agenda message.

That is why I don't pay much attention to any of this; it's just noise at this point. Now the media is simply pushing the message they want to push because they have to push something. I get it, they have a job to do and their employer expects 5-6 stories a week to fill X number of column inches a day or fill X number of airtime minutes.

The only thing that is going to influence me at this point is what I hear from the coaches and what my eyes are telling me.

It's all a moot point until camp opens in mid July.

Fair point.
The media, of any sort, has never dealt in reality.

Unless you have coaches talking to you in private on the side, you can't even listen to them. All we'll get from them going forward is coach-speak.
What we see is all there is...... but, the same folks that praised DTR to be the next franchise QB will need to settle down when these kids look decent in preseason against scrubs.

If someone asked me what QB of the 4 we have has the best chance to be the future starter I would say Shedeur. I’m not saying he will be it’s just my opinion. I just hope one of them other than Joe Flacco will step up and become a solid starter for us. I honestly don’t have a preference.

Given the same question, I would say Kenny Pickett, but I think he has about a 10% chance of that happening. I would put both rookies at about a 5% chance.

Here's where I REALLY caution this... what if the Browns fail to make the playoffs over the next two seasons and Haslem moves on from Stefanski? None of these QBs are equipped for another system besides Stefanski's. Though, they are in the absolute best situations for their skill set to succeed. So, if it's going to happen anywhere, it's going to be here and now.. otherwise, I could see one or more moving to where ever Stefanski goes back to being a coordinator in the future.

For any of the 5 QBs on this current roster to succeed, they need an almost perfect roster around them to manage. They are not built to take an offense on their shoulders and score 30 points a game, even with good offensive players around them. They need a 50/50 pass to run ratio and the line needs to perform at a high level for the run game to be successful as well.

The perfect scenario in this system is run/pass on first and second downs to only end up in 3rd and short situations, 4 yards or less. THAT is what this offense is. If you have constant penalties on the line or delay of game penalties, etc... They will fail.

We keep talking about the QB of the future though, in 2025, we should only be talking about the QB of the present. That is the most important question to answer. If there is a QB of the future, he will eventually emerge.

The worst of the four excluding Joe will go to the practice squad.

I don't know. QB is a scarce position. I don't think any would clear waivers to be able to get them there. All have enough potential or experience that someone would claim them.

I think the worst situation is one we are very familiar with.

1 QB shows just enough fake potential and the franchise hitches its wagon to him. We go through several years of mediocrity, waste prime years of our defensive core, and then blow it all up with nothing gained.

I really agree with the play scripting/calling. A little more aggressive ambition on first and second could help us. A number of times first down run up the middle left us behind on the chains, predictably so. Consciously changing that up, especially on first might be helpful. We didn't see success often enough to justify the number of drives we started that way. Shortening third down could extend drives after our fourth down judgment. There are exceptions to what I have said, but we handcuffed ourselves week after week and kept dialing it up. I think some variety and the blocking scheme Pit pointed up could make the line look better. ANY penalties have proven to be drive killers. These are not exceptional outlier events; however our OL success HAS p roven to be.

As someone pointed out earlier, the issue is more than just predictable playcalling. Not trying to say you're wrong, but that our issue was frequently penalties, then combining that with predictable calls. We found ourselves in third and long a LOT, and it was usually tied back to a holding call or something.

What nobody has pointed out is how we ran blocking schemes that didn't mesh with our talent on the o-line. Those problems shouldn't exist this season.

I suppose the perpetual problem in any sport. Did you pick the "right guy"?

The undercurrent will always be there, but no sense worrying about it until it happens. It's kind of like betting on roulette. Cover red and it falls black. Cover black, it falls red. Cover both, those two darn green slots screw you. LOL