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This took about as long as expected.

Trump attempt to block Harvard fails as expected.


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It's sad to think that so many in America thinks it's okay to attack a school who disagrees with a president by abusing the power of his office with punitive measures.


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The Fn nut job that is currently POTUS thinks his lies can replace truth and we will all be okay with it. He’s a fascist. J6 was an insurrection. MAGA is trash. And that’s how it will be written 100 years from now too.

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Originally Posted by WooferDawg
This took about as long as expected.

Trump attempt to block Harvard fails as expected.

Trump is a petty scum bag little boy. If you slight him in any way, he wants your head on a platter. Harvard stood up to him so naturally, they became a target. I truly wish other universities would have stood ground on this DEI crap.

And to have all these republicans or should I say MAGAts sucking up to him is just nuts.


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Your statements are all facts. Yet, our other MAIN Choice was a female on the inside of a huge coverup- Biden couldn't do the job he was elected to do AND the Dems knew it......AND they thought they could hoodwink us until the debate showed the world how senile our then President was.......power corrupts and Dem are nearly as bad as what we have now. Trump has closed the border- great- but he is a complete D....Peace


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Originally Posted by hitt
Your statements are all facts. Yet, our other MAIN Choice was a female on the inside of a huge coverup- Biden couldn't do the job he was elected to do AND the Dems knew it......AND they thought they could hoodwink us until the debate showed the world how senile our then President was.......power corrupts and Dem are nearly as bad as what we have now. Trump has closed the border- great- but he is a complete D....Peace


That's an assumption on your part... No actual proof exists But it might be true. But we know what we know and can prove it about Trump.. Biden, with all his faults, and he had many, never tried to overthrow and election. Never incited a riot where people got killed... Biden is so far from perfect, but not nearly as imperfect as Trump.



All harris ever did was pull herself up... Mostly by herself...


You can try to justify not voting for Harris anyway you want. but because of that, we have a Nazi/Hitler/Putin wanna be dictator that wants to take over every facet of the federal government. That's simply not what we are about as a nation.


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I don't want to hear about right wing. How about the lefties tactics of crossing police lines, assaulting federal agents, and going around shooting people?

I expect arson to go up by mid summer.

You folks are a funny bunch.


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I think you're confused Peen. Too much too much koolaid can do that.

You are comparing and conflating the actions of individuals with the actions of the government in persecuting and retaliating against an institution. The two things are nothing alike


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
I don't want to hear about right wing. How about the lefties tactics of crossing police lines, assaulting federal agents, and going around shooting people?

I expect arson to go up by mid summer.

You folks are a funny bunch.

Crossing police lines? Hmmmmm. Pot meet kettle.

So assaulting federal officers? When was this? And would that be anything like assaulting Capital police officers?

And on one side people weren't pardoned for doing that.

Going around shooting people? Are you trying to suggest only Democrats go around shooting people?

I have no idea what you're smoking but I want some of it.


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Judge finds Trump order targeting law firm Jenner & Block unlawful

A federal judge on Friday ruled President Trump’s order targeting the law firm Jenner & Block is unlawful, blocking it in full.

U.S. District Judge John Bates, an appointee of former President George W. Bush, said Trump took aim at the law firm because of the causes it champions, the clients it represents and a lawyer it once employed — a reference to Andrew Weissmann, a prominent Trump critic and legal pundit who worked on special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation.

He noted that the president has signed several executive orders taking aim at Big Law firms like Jenner & Block over their ties to his perceived enemies.

“This order, like the others, seeks to chill legal representation the administration doesn’t like, thereby insulating the Executive Branch from the judicial check fundamental to the separation of powers,” Bates wrote in a 52-page opinion. “It thus violates the Constitution and the Court will enjoin its operation in full.”

He deemed Trump’s order “null and void” and directed the Trump administration to rescind any guidance to federal agencies regarding enforcement of the action.

In a statement posted to its website, Jenner & Block said the ruling demonstrates the importance of lawyers “standing firm” on behalf of their clients and the law.

“We are pleased with the court’s decision to decisively strike down an unconstitutional attack on our clients’ right to have zealous, independent counsel and our firm’s right to represent our clients fully and without compromise,” the statement read.

Trump signed the order targeting Jenner & Block in March. It sought to limit the firm’s government contracts and its employees’ security clearances and access to government buildings.

Bates’s decision marks the second time a federal judge has found one of Trump’s orders targeting law firms unlawful.

U.S. District Judge Beryl Howell earlier this month struck down Trump’s order aimed at Perkins Coie, writing in her 102-page opinion that it “draws from a playbook as old as Shakespeare, who penned the phrase: ‘The first thing we do, let’s kill all the lawyers.'”

Perkins Coie advised Hillary Clinton during her 2016 presidential campaign and worked with an opposition research firm tied to the discredited Steele dossier.
Six firms have been named in executive orders, but only four have filed legal action challenging the directives: Jenner & Block, Perkins Coie, WilmerHale and Susman Godfrey. Other firms, targeted or not, struck deals with Trump to be spared an executive order or accepted the penalty silently.

The other two firms targeted were Covington & Burling and Paul, Weiss. However, Trump rescinded his order against Paul, Weiss after it agreed to dedicate equal to $40 million in pro bono legal services to support administration initiatives; eliminate diversity, equity and inclusion policies; and not deny representation to clients based on their political views.

After that, at least nine law firms cut deals with Trump to provide tens of millions of dollars of free legal work on causes aligned with the administration. In return, Trump spared them an executive order.

They are Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom; Willkie Farr & Gallagher; Kirkland & Ellis; Latham & Watkins; Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft; A & O Shearman; Simpson Thacher & Bartlett; and Milbank.

Altogether, the president extracted nearly $1 billion in pro bono legal services. Democratic members of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee are investigating the deals.

https://thehill.com/regulation/cour...argeting-law-firm-jenner-block-unlawful/

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Democrats support their constituents chanting "Free Palestine" That saying is turning into the new "Hail Hitler" Jewish hate chant.

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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
I don't want to hear about right wing. How about the lefties tactics of crossing police lines, assaulting federal agents, and going around shooting people?

I expect arson to go up by mid summer.

You folks are a funny bunch.

So is this a good time to bring up Jan6?.. That is unless you are crazy enough to think that it wasn't a bunch of Trump supporters that attacked the capital. I recognize that it's not a subject Trump supporters want to discuss since it made you all look like a bunch of Jackbooted fools..

Nothing funny about any of this.. Least of all Jan 6. They should have never been pardoned and that woman that got killed, her family didn't deserve one damn red cent


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Originally Posted by Day of the Dawg
Democrats support their constituents chanting "Free Palestine" That saying is turning into the new "Hail Hitler" Jewish hate chant.

Well that's a big steaming pile of BS... Dems aren't the Nazis here.. Trump is! MAGA is!


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Democrats support their constituents chanting "Free Palestine" That saying is turning into the new "Hail Hitler" Jewish hate chant.

Well that's a big steaming pile of BS... Dems aren't the Nazis here.. Trump is! MAGA is!

You are deranged.


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
I don't want to hear about right wing. How about the lefties tactics of crossing police lines, assaulting federal agents, and going around shooting people?

I expect arson to go up by mid summer.

You folks are a funny bunch.


Even a few years ago, Ballpeen's PP posts would:
1. challenge my preconceived biases
2. push me to examine the core of my beliefs
3. force me to reinforce my premises with real receipts.

I responded to him, in good faith debate principles.

Nowadays, I feel less compelled to do that same work...
...because the quality of return hasn't been commensurate with the effort expended.


I'd like to think that it's still possible... but I'm less optimistic with each passing month.


I miss the old 'peen...

...and, curse me, if I still think we could still get him back-
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Originally Posted by hitt
Your statements are all facts. Yet, our other MAIN Choice was a female on the inside of a huge coverup- Biden couldn't do the job he was elected to do AND the Dems knew it......AND they thought they could hoodwink us until the debate showed the world how senile our then President was.......power corrupts and Dem are nearly as bad as what we have now. Trump has closed the border- great- but he is a complete D....Peace


You say this as if she could have possibly been worse than TrumPutin.

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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
I don't want to hear about right wing. How about the lefties tactics of crossing police lines, assaulting federal agents, and going around shooting people?

I expect arson to go up by mid summer.

You folks are a funny bunch.


Even a few years ago, Ballpeen's PP posts would:
1. challenge my preconceived biases
2. push me to examine the core of my beliefs
3. force me to reinforce my premises with real receipts.

I responded to him, in good faith debate principles.

Nowadays, I feel less compelled to do that same work...
...because the quality of return hasn't been commensurate with the effort expended.


I'd like to think that it's still possible... but I'm less optimistic with each passing month.


I miss the old 'peen...

...and, curse me, if I still think we could still get him back-
-if he actually wants to come back to us.



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I am still here. I am just numbed by all the Nazi talk, insults etc. when I have made reasonable posts, so I don't bother to try much anymore. It isn't worth the effort.


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Democrats support their constituents chanting "Free Palestine" That saying is turning into the new "Hail Hitler" Jewish hate chant.

Well that's a big steaming pile of BS... Dems aren't the Nazis here.. Trump is! MAGA is!

You are deranged.

Think so? why don't you compare the actions of Trump and MAGA and maybe even yourself and decide who the freaking NAZI is


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Originally Posted by Day of the Dawg
Democrats support their constituents chanting "Free Palestine" That saying is turning into the new "Hail Hitler" Jewish hate chant.

This is what happens when people get brainwashed into thinking that objecting to tens of thousands of innocent women and children being slaughtered is the same thing as supporting Hamas.

Simple minded. Only idiots believe that. Once a man like Netanyahu begins employing the methods of a terrorist he becomes one. So much for your kind being right to life. You don't give a damn about the children of Gaza's right to life.


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Originally Posted by Ballpeen
I am still here. I am just numbed by all the Nazi talk, insults etc. when I have made reasonable posts, so I don't bother to try much anymore. It isn't worth the effort.

Reasonable? I didn't call you any name yet you still ignored this post. Maybe I should try again................

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I don't want to hear about right wing. How about the lefties tactics of crossing police lines, assaulting federal agents, and going around shooting people?

I expect arson to go up by mid summer.

You folks are a funny bunch.

Crossing police lines? Hmmmmm. Pot meet kettle.

So assaulting federal officers? When was this? And would that be anything like assaulting Capital police officers?

And crossing police lines? You mean the same as assaulting police officers in front of the Capital to cross their police lines?

And on one side people weren't pardoned for doing that.

Going around shooting people? Are you trying to suggest only Democrats go around shooting people?

I have no idea what you're smoking but I want some of it.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
I am still here. I am just numbed by all the Nazi talk, insults etc. when I have made reasonable posts, so I don't bother to try much anymore. It isn't worth the effort.

Reasonable? I didn't call you any name yet you still ignored this post. Maybe I should try again................

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I don't want to hear about right wing. How about the lefties tactics of crossing police lines, assaulting federal agents, and going around shooting people?

I expect arson to go up by mid summer.

You folks are a funny bunch.

Crossing police lines? Hmmmmm. Pot meet kettle.

So assaulting federal officers? When was this? And would that be anything like assaulting Capital police officers?

And crossing police lines? You mean the same as assaulting police officers in front of the Capital to cross their police lines?

And on one side people weren't pardoned for doing that.

Going around shooting people? Are you trying to suggest only Democrats go around shooting people?

I have no idea what you're smoking but I want some of it.

He has no retort for this logic.. He doesn't see that attacking the police is the same no matter who the hell does it.


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Originally Posted by Damanshot
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Democrats support their constituents chanting "Free Palestine" That saying is turning into the new "Hail Hitler" Jewish hate chant.

Well that's a big steaming pile of BS... Dems aren't the Nazis here.. Trump is! MAGA is!

Is that right! Then why is it that the Democrats are supporting people that are hating Jewish people. Praising nut jobs that murder two Israeli people in cold blood. Now who really hate and are really the nazi's/ Look in the mirror. It is easy to see.

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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
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Democrats support their constituents chanting "Free Palestine" That saying is turning into the new "Hail Hitler" Jewish hate chant.

This is what happens when people get brainwashed into thinking that objecting to tens of thousands of innocent women and children being slaughtered is the same thing as supporting Hamas.

Simple minded. Only idiots believe that. Once a man like Netanyahu begins employing the methods of a terrorist he becomes one.

This was a good answer to the moronic post suggesting people wanting peace and freedom for Palestians are hating Jewish people. Trying to call MAGA Nazis was not. In fact trying to invoke Nazi in relation to any subject reagarding Trump and MAGA really just gives the Trump supporters a get out of free jail card because they simply turn the subject into a discussion about the Nazi comment instead of the topic at hand. It happens without fail no matter what you think. Maybe learn from that reality and do better?

As for Israel, Palestine and what is going on there - if anyone wants to spend 15 minutes listening to a fantastically insightful conversation from an (one) Israeli perspective, I can't recmommend this enough. And listen right thru to the end because as the radio host says, this is an explanation not an excuse. There is no excuse that can justify what Israel's reaction to October the 6th has been ... and as mentioned in the conversatoion: Benjamin Netanyahu statements regarding Palestine/Gaza and Isaeli politicians calling Oct 6th a "miracle" because it gave them the opportunity to initiate the atrocities that they are carrying out.... atrocities that the longer they go on, the more women and children killed in there 10's thousands, hard not to call genocide.


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Democrats support their constituents chanting "Free Palestine" That saying is turning into the new "Hail Hitler" Jewish hate chant.

Well that's a big steaming pile of BS... Dems aren't the Nazis here.. Trump is! MAGA is!

Is that right! Then why is it that the Democrats are supporting people that are hating Jewish people. Praising nut jobs that murder two Israeli people in cold blood. Now who really hate and are really the nazi's/ Look in the mirror. It is easy to see.

Yes, That's right.. Look at what Trump and his MAGA party is doing to America. Attacks on the Free Press, Stopping free speech.. Yeah, that's not NAZI is it!


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Originally Posted by Damanshot
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Democrats support their constituents chanting "Free Palestine" That saying is turning into the new "Hail Hitler" Jewish hate chant.

Well that's a big steaming pile of BS... Dems aren't the Nazis here.. Trump is! MAGA is!

Is that right! Then why is it that the Democrats are supporting people that are hating Jewish people. Praising nut jobs that murder two Israeli people in cold blood. Now who really hate and are really the nazi's/ Look in the mirror. It is easy to see.

Yes, That's right.. Look at what Trump and his MAGA party is doing to America. Attacks on the Free Press, Stopping free speech.. Yeah, that's not NAZI is it!

You bring up hyperbole. Here are facts. When there is true tyranny there will be the dehumanization of others and ultimately genocide. Which party supports abortion and the systematic murder of the most innocents of people? Yeah, that is right they dehumanize babies and support genocide in society today. Same party that supports Hamas. When the crazy nut jobs chant free Palestine they are not chanting to end a war. Palestine is no longer a country. It does not exist. There was a world war, and they fought on the wrong side and lost. Isreal was then created for the Jewish people that were displaced and the victim of mass genocide by the nazi's. So now there are people chanting against Israel? Guess why? Antisemitism is ugly. It was ugly in the 1930 and 40's and it is ugly now. Nazi's or Hamas they seek the same end result. Iran who makes no bones about wanting Israel to no exist created and supports Hamas. Now we have people in our country supporting Hamas. Those people are supported and apologized for by Democrats. Open your eyes!!!

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Democrats support their constituents chanting "Free Palestine" That saying is turning into the new "Hail Hitler" Jewish hate chant.

Well that's a big steaming pile of BS... Dems aren't the Nazis here.. Trump is! MAGA is!

Is that right! Then why is it that the Democrats are supporting people that are hating Jewish people. Praising nut jobs that murder two Israeli people in cold blood. Now who really hate and are really the nazi's/ Look in the mirror. It is easy to see.

We could also get in to many more.

The health care executive shot in the back and support for the bum who shot him.

Living under a shadow government the last 3 years. Somebody was making crazy decisions. It's clear the President wasn't. It's funny how quickly everybody jumped off that train of deceit and tossed Joe away like a worn out ragdoll, wanting to get away from that as far and as fast as possible.

People need to hang for that. Literally.

Did the President really sign off on those midnight pardons?


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Originally Posted by Day of the Dawg
Is that right! Then why is it that the Democrats are supporting people that are hating Jewish people. Praising nut jobs that murder two Israeli people in cold blood. Now who really hate and are really the nazi's/ Look in the mirror. It is easy to see.

The KKK and white supremacists have done this for decades. When they keep talking about genocide against the Jews you always called that free speech. When someone else does it you suddenly have a moment of conscience? Where is your outrage over that? Are you trying to tell the lie that the "democratic party and their voters" are praising the people who murdered those outside that museum? Really?

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You bring up hyperbole. Here are facts. When there is true tyranny there will be the dehumanization of others and ultimately genocide. Which party supports abortion and the systematic murder of the most innocents of people? Yeah, that is right they dehumanize babies and support genocide in society today.

Allowing a woman to make her own choice is not genocide. That's also not supporting either choice she makes. Genocide is what's been going on in Gaza.

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Same party that supports Hamas.

That's a flat out lie. First off only around 60% of people eligible to vote do so. I take it you've asked for voter registration cards? Secondly to support the genocide of a population of women and children no longer be killed is not the same as supporting a terrorist organization. Only a terribly warped mind would even suggest that.

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When the crazy nut jobs chant free Palestine they are not chanting to end a war.

That's exactly what they're doing.

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There was a world war, and they fought on the wrong side and lost. Isreal was then created for the Jewish people that were displaced and the victim of mass genocide by the nazi's. So now there are people chanting against Israel? Guess why? Antisemitism is ugly.

First off it isn't the Israeli people or the Jewish community that chose to drop 2000 pound bombs that kills innocent women and children. It was Netanyahu. It wasn't the Jewish people who made the decision to bomb hospitals and schools. It was Netanyahu. It wasn't the population of Israel that withheld food and medicine from the people of Gaza. It was Netanyahu. You do realize that there are protests on the streets of Israel denouncing Netanyahu don't you? Are those Jews in Israel antisemitic too?

Since when did advocating that innocent lives stop being slaughtered mean the same thing as supporting a terrorist organization?

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It was ugly in the 1930 and 40's and it is ugly now. Nazi's or Hamas they seek the same end result. Iran who makes no bones about wanting Israel to no exist created and supports Hamas. Now we have people in our country supporting Hamas. Those people are supported and apologized for by Democrats. Open your eyes!!!

If the crazy ramblings we see in your post is what happens by opening our eyes, at least according to you, it's not a good thing.

You equate wanting the slaughter of innocent women and children to stop with supporting terrorism. It makes people wonder who it is that's really supporting terrorism. Once a leader of a nation, be it here, somewhere else, yes, even the leader of Israel, starts acting like a terrorist, once they start to break international law and commit war crimes, starve and slaughter innocent women and children, you have to ask yourself if they aren't acting like a terrorist too. Even some Israeli citizens are asking themselves that question.

I'm going to ask you this again because it's usually the kind of thing you always insist on ignoring in your responses.....

Thousands of Israelis protest the actions of Netanyahu. They want the war to end as well. Does that mean they are antisemitic too?

According to you if someone gets an abortion they are killing babies. When Netanyahu kills thousands upon thousands of children in Gaza he gets a free pass. Then you tell us you're pro life. What a crock of BS.


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People need to hang for that. Literally.

While people were pardoned for Jan. 6th. This is the warped reality you now live in.


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Democrats support their constituents chanting "Free Palestine" That saying is turning into the new "Hail Hitler" Jewish hate chant.

Well that's a big steaming pile of BS... Dems aren't the Nazis here.. Trump is! MAGA is!

Is that right! Then why is it that the Democrats are supporting people that are hating Jewish people. Praising nut jobs that murder two Israeli people in cold blood. Now who really hate and are really the nazi's/ Look in the mirror. It is easy to see.

Yes, That's right.. Look at what Trump and his MAGA party is doing to America. Attacks on the Free Press, Stopping free speech.. Yeah, that's not NAZI is it!

You bring up hyperbole. Here are facts. When there is true tyranny there will be the dehumanization of others and ultimately genocide. Which party supports abortion and the systematic murder of the most innocents of people? Yeah, that is right they dehumanize babies and support genocide in society today. Same party that supports Hamas. When the crazy nut jobs chant free Palestine they are not chanting to end a war. Palestine is no longer a country. It does not exist. There was a world war, and they fought on the wrong side and lost. Isreal was then created for the Jewish people that were displaced and the victim of mass genocide by the nazi's. So now there are people chanting against Israel? Guess why? Antisemitism is ugly. It was ugly in the 1930 and 40's and it is ugly now. Nazi's or Hamas they seek the same end result. Iran who makes no bones about wanting Israel to no exist created and supports Hamas. Now we have people in our country supporting Hamas. Those people are supported and apologized for by Democrats. Open your eyes!!!

You should watch who you accuse of sympathizing with HAMAS. And I’m no antisemite but to hell with Benjamin Netanyahu too. He’s a whole ass.

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People need to hang for that. Literally.

While people were pardoned for Jan. 6th. This is the warped reality you now live in.


Like I said, none of them want to talk about that. They really don't have an excuse for it. That's why when I or you or anyone brings it up, they switch the subject.

No No they'd rather discuss the notion that Biden wasn't running the country.., As if Trump is running it. He's a puppet for the Far Right world wide.

Let me ask a question,,,, why the hell are we paying taxes? I mean, if it's not for the benefit of every American, then whats the purpose? Are they saving it for a rainy day? well, it stormed like hell in the mid west two weeks ago, what have they done for them.. Where the hell is FEMA.. or how about Carolina with those storms..

If not to benefit the masses, what the hell are we being taxed for?

Can't speak for any of you, but I like good roads, Trump didn't do t hat, Biden did! I like my investments to be steady.. Ain't trying to get loaded (be nice by not necessary).. But I wanna drive my new car on a bridge without holes in it.

I like that we take care of Veterans.. I like that we fund Research into things like Cancer! Trump doesn't like that.. or at least his handlers don't like it. Biden sure did.

So when someone says that Biden wasn't running the country, OK,,, who ever was paid attention to our needs.. Not like the idiot you all salute to.


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Is that right! Then why is it that the Democrats are supporting people that are hating Jewish people. Praising nut jobs that murder two Israeli people in cold blood. Now who really hate and are really the nazi's/ Look in the mirror. It is easy to see.

The KKK and white supremacists have done this for decades. When they keep talking about genocide against the Jews you always called that free speech. When someone else does it you suddenly have a moment of conscience? Where is your outrage over that? Are you trying to tell the lie that the "democratic party and their voters" are praising the people who murdered those outside that museum? Really?

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You bring up hyperbole. Here are facts. When there is true tyranny there will be the dehumanization of others and ultimately genocide. Which party supports abortion and the systematic murder of the most innocents of people? Yeah, that is right they dehumanize babies and support genocide in society today.

Allowing a woman to make her own choice is not genocide. That's also not supporting either choice she makes. Genocide is what's been going on in Gaza.

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Same party that supports Hamas.

That's a flat out lie. First off only around 60% of people eligible to vote do so. I take it you've asked for voter registration cards? Secondly to support the genocide of a population of women and children no longer be killed is not the same as supporting a terrorist organization. Only a terribly warped mind would even suggest that.

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When the crazy nut jobs chant free Palestine they are not chanting to end a war.

That's exactly what they're doing.

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There was a world war, and they fought on the wrong side and lost. Isreal was then created for the Jewish people that were displaced and the victim of mass genocide by the nazi's. So now there are people chanting against Israel? Guess why? Antisemitism is ugly.

First off it isn't the Israeli people or the Jewish community that chose to drop 2000 pound bombs that kills innocent women and children. It was Netanyahu. It wasn't the Jewish people who made the decision to bomb hospitals and schools. It was Netanyahu. It wasn't the population of Israel that withheld food and medicine from the people of Gaza. It was Netanyahu. You do realize that there are protests on the streets of Israel denouncing Netanyahu don't you? Are those Jews in Israel antisemitic too?

Since when did advocating that innocent lives stop being slaughtered mean the same thing as supporting a terrorist organization?

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It was ugly in the 1930 and 40's and it is ugly now. Nazi's or Hamas they seek the same end result. Iran who makes no bones about wanting Israel to no exist created and supports Hamas. Now we have people in our country supporting Hamas. Those people are supported and apologized for by Democrats. Open your eyes!!!

If the crazy ramblings we see in your post is what happens by opening our eyes, at least according to you, it's not a good thing.

You equate wanting the slaughter of innocent women and children to stop with supporting terrorism. It makes people wonder who it is that's really supporting terrorism. Once a leader of a nation, be it here, somewhere else, yes, even the leader of Israel, starts acting like a terrorist, once they start to break international law and commit war crimes, starve and slaughter innocent women and children, you have to ask yourself if they aren't acting like a terrorist too. Even some Israeli citizens are asking themselves that question.

I'm going to ask you this again because it's usually the kind of thing you always insist on ignoring in your responses.....

Thousands of Israelis protest the actions of Netanyahu. They want the war to end as well. Does that mean they are antisemitic too?

According to you if someone gets an abortion they are killing babies. When Netanyahu kills thousands upon thousands of children in Gaza he gets a free pass. Then you tell us you're pro life. What a crock of BS.

Antisemitism is a bad look no matter how you try to rationalize it!!!

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Democrats support their constituents chanting "Free Palestine" That saying is turning into the new "Hail Hitler" Jewish hate chant.

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Antisemitism is a bad look no matter how you try to rationalize it!!!

Claiming you hate abortion because you are right to life and then saying that if others rail against bombing and starving children is antisemitic is a bad look too. It seems you approve of thousands upon thousands of innocent children being slaughtered and starved to death. Anyone who disagrees with you about that you call names. News flash. That's not being right to life.

You have proven the point I've been making for years. You don't give a damn about children having the right to life. You only give a damn about children having a right to be born. After that? Bomb the hell out of them and starve them to death!

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Dotd, we must live in completely different realities.

Yeah, and mine is drug free!!!

That's not our fault. I'm not qualified to diagnose whatever it is that's wrong with you but I'm sure they make medication for it. This does however help explain the problem.


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Antisemitism is a bad look no matter how you try to rationalize it!!!

Claiming you hate abortion because you are right to life and then saying that if others rail against bombing and starving children is antisemitic is a bad look too. It seems you approve of thousands upon thousands of innocent children being slaughtered and starved to death. Anyone who disagrees with you about that you call names. News flash. That's not being right to life.

You have proven the point I've been making for years. You don't give a damn about children having the right to life. You only give a damn about children having a right to be born. After that? Bomb the hell out of them and starve them to death!

Murica! Freedumb!

Israel is not causing the problem for Gaza. Hamas is. They conducted a terrorist attack in Israel and are still holding Israeli's hostage. Israel has a right to defend itself and war is not pleasant but what is happening to Gaza is 100% Hamas's fault and blaming Israel is idiotic. Making excuses for someone murdering 2 Israeli diplomats in cold blood here in the United States which CNN reporters and many on the left in social media is doing is wrong and cannot be justified. That is hate. Chanting for the elimination of a country "From the river to the sea" is supporting terrorists. The Phrase "Free Palestine" is nothing more than antisemitic Jewish hate.

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It ended up working out fine for MAGA.


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Israel is not causing the problem for Gaza. Hamas is. They conducted a terrorist attack in Israel and are still holding Israeli's hostage.

And the only time Hamas has released hostages was during a cease fire. I wonder how many of those hostages Netanyahu has killed during all of those bombings? How many tens of thousands more women and children will need to die before you stop using that initial attack on Israel to excuse them?

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Israel has a right to defend itself and war is not pleasant but what is happening to Gaza is 100% Hamas's fault and blaming Israel is idiotic.

Once again, that's no excuse to use 2000 lb. bombs to totally level residential neighborhoods. It's no excuse to bomb hospitals and schools. There is no excuse to target the civilian population of Gaza.

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Making excuses for someone murdering 2 Israeli diplomats in cold blood here in the United States which CNN reporters and many on the left in social media is doing is wrong and cannot be justified.

First of all CNN has never made excuses for those murders. In fact they have condemned those murders. But when you don't even watch CNN and just repeat what you've been told this is the type of response that's to be expected. Explaining the motivation behind those murders is not making excuses for them anywhere except Trumplandia where you reside. You are correct that a small minority on the fringe do make excuses for it and that's wrong. But that's not the picture you're painting here.

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Chanting for the elimination of a country "From the river to the sea" is supporting terrorists.

There are a very small percentage that take it too far and here we agree. But stop trying to make it sound like that's wide spread because it's not.

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The Phrase "Free Palestine" is nothing more than antisemitic Jewish hate.

Once again that is lie that you're either spreading or have been brainwashed to believe. Freeing the people of Gaza from starvation and death is neither antisemitic nor hate.

You mentioned excuses. Yet here you are continuing to make excuses why you think it's okay for Netanyahu to continue slaughtering and starving innocent women and children.

I'll ask you again, are Israeli's who are against what Netanyahu is doing guilty of "antisemitic Jewish hate"? Because you claim anyone wanting an end to killing innocent civilians in gaza has to be just that................





Hostage families say Netanyahu is deceiving Israelis, threatening to topple him

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04...ages-want-netanyahu-to-end-war/105220630

Israeli hostage families blast security chief nominee over reported opposition to hostage deal

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/24/middleeast/israel-hostage-families-deal-opposition-intl

Hostage families fume after Netanyahu appears to tease deal only to dash hopes

Brother of captive soldier decries ‘psychological terror’ after premier repeats comment his office walked back about hostage-related announcement ‘today or tomorrow’

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hosta...ppears-to-tease-deal-only-to-dash-hopes/

Before you continue to rant your silly BS maybe you should explain to these Israeli citizens and even the families of the hostages that what they're doing is "antisemitic Jewish hate". Try not to ignore this in your response.


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Israel is not causing the problem for Gaza. Hamas is. They conducted a terrorist attack in Israel and are still holding Israeli's hostage.

And the only time Hamas has released hostages was during a cease fire. I wonder how many of those hostages Netanyahu has killed during all of those bombings? How many tens of thousands more women and children will need to die before you stop using that initial attack on Israel to excuse them?

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Israel has a right to defend itself and war is not pleasant but what is happening to Gaza is 100% Hamas's fault and blaming Israel is idiotic.

Once again, that's no excuse to use 2000 lb. bombs to totally level residential neighborhoods. It's no excuse to bomb hospitals and schools. There is no excuse to target the civilian population of Gaza.

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Making excuses for someone murdering 2 Israeli diplomats in cold blood here in the United States which CNN reporters and many on the left in social media is doing is wrong and cannot be justified.

First of all CNN has never made excuses for those murders. In fact they have condemned those murders. But when you don't even watch CNN and just repeat what you've been told this is the type of response that's to be expected. Explaining the motivation behind those murders is not making excuses for them anywhere except Trumplandia where you reside. You are correct that a small minority on the fringe do make excuses for it and that's wrong. But that's not the picture you're painting here.

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Chanting for the elimination of a country "From the river to the sea" is supporting terrorists.

There are a very small percentage that take it too far and here we agree. But stop trying to make it sound like that's wide spread because it's not.

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The Phrase "Free Palestine" is nothing more than antisemitic Jewish hate.

Once again that is lie that you're either spreading or have been brainwashed to believe. Freeing the people of Gaza from starvation and death is neither antisemitic nor hate.

You mentioned excuses. Yet here you are continuing to make excuses why you think it's okay for Netanyahu to continue slaughtering and starving innocent women and children.

I'll ask you again, are Israeli's who are against what Netanyahu is doing guilty of "antisemitic Jewish hate"? Because you claim anyone wanting an end to killing innocent civilians in gaza has to be just that................





Hostage families say Netanyahu is deceiving Israelis, threatening to topple him

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04...ages-want-netanyahu-to-end-war/105220630

Israeli hostage families blast security chief nominee over reported opposition to hostage deal

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/24/middleeast/israel-hostage-families-deal-opposition-intl

Hostage families fume after Netanyahu appears to tease deal only to dash hopes

Brother of captive soldier decries ‘psychological terror’ after premier repeats comment his office walked back about hostage-related announcement ‘today or tomorrow’

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hosta...ppears-to-tease-deal-only-to-dash-hopes/

Before you continue to rant your silly BS maybe you should explain to these Israeli citizens and even the families of the hostages that what they're doing is "antisemitic Jewish hate". Try not to ignore this in your response.

So, some people in Isreal don't understand what it takes to defend themselves from terrorist. I could put up video after video of hostages talking about how they were raped, tortured, and treated in humanely by not just Hamas but even the citizens in Gaza. I stand with Isreal and the IDF to complete their mission of total elimination of Hamas. Where is the outcry for the hostages? Isreal never bombed Gaza until Oct 7th. That is what you seem to forget. Iran is behind Hamas and Hamas is behind the terror attacks and what is happening in Gaza is 100% on them not Netanyahu or the IDF, or Isreal. The Hamas sympathizers in this country are the closets things to Nazi's the world has seen since the Nazi's themselves. It is funny you bring up the KKK. Another hate group that's roots started in the Democratic party just like Atifa, just like BLM, just like this free Palestine movement on college campuses. See a trend here?

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It seems you call 69% "some" and disagree with the vast majority of Israelis. I mean of course you and FOX News knows more about this than actual Israeli's, right? Using catch wordas and phrases like "Nazis" and "antisemitic Jewish hate" are just BS..................

When asked if they support a deal to return all the hostages in return for an end to the war, 69% said they do, compared with 21% who said they oppose it and 10% who said they don’t know. Among coalition voters, 54% said they support a deal, compared to 21% who oppose it. Among opposition voters, 86% said they support the deal, compared with 9% who said they do not.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/poll-...cluding-almost-half-of-coalition-voters/

Among "Coalition voters", which support Netanyahu political party, 51% think a deal should be made that would release the hostages rather than continue on with the war. And yes, Hamas has proposed an end to the war in exchange for the remaining hostages.

You are not only arguing against me and U.S protestors, you're arguing with 69% of the Israeli people. So I ask you again, are 69% of Israeli's also spreading "antisemitic Jewish hate"?

I guess you can stand with 21% of Jewish Israeli's that agree with you if you like. While according to you 69% of them are spreading "antisemitic Jewish hate".

And the beat goes on.......


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Democrats support their constituents chanting "Free Palestine" That saying is turning into the new "Hail Hitler" Jewish hate chant.

I have to say something about this as well... I have seen the can of worms opened.

History has the ability to repeat itself.

What happened in the 1930's and 1940's Germany occurred when a political party took over the democratic government and used its power without due process against its own people because of a difference in religious beliefs. Holocaust and Genocide are appropriate terms.

The State of Israel was formed to provide a home to those of a religious belief (in this case those of the Jewish faith). The State of Israel is controlled by those of the Jewish faith. It is in essence a theocracy, even though it no one calls it that, and the State of Israel would vehemently disagree.

The State of Israel employs twisted strategy of claiming antisemitism whenever it is to its advantage. The State of Israel cannot exist as a theocracy with Palestinians (Muslims). Israel is at a numeric disadvantage in its own territory. The State of Israel (theocracy) cannot survive as a democracy because they do not have the numbers.

Because of State of Israels' past invasions into adjacent areas (occupied territories) it has accumulated more people of the Muslim faith. That only makes things worse.

The Palestinians and others of Muslim belief in the occupied territories do not have the same rights as those of Jewish belief that live in the State of Israel. This is unacceptable to the Palestinians and those who hold Muslim beliefs, leading to "armed resistance forces" and conflict.

Obviously, all the democratic principals associated with the USA, freedom of speech and religion, due process, hot dogs and apple pie cannot not apply to the State of Israel that has to protect its Jewish citizens even if it is at the detriment of its Muslim citizens. In American terms "armed resistance forces" would be the Revolutionary forces led by George Washington.

The State of Israel has to deal with an internal conflict between its Muslims citizens who attack its Jewish citizens.

One of the great ironies, is that it is difficult to discern the difference between anti-Israel and antisemitic. Again, the State of Israel uses this to its advantage.

So when the Muslims attack their fellow Jewish citizens of Israel, the State of Israel attack its own citizens in their own occupied territories in retaliation.

How much retribution is appropriate? 10:1 20:1, 50:1??? And when does retribution become genocide?

The sad fact is that the Palestinians are in a very similar place to the Jewish people 80 years later. A government (Israel, not Germany) using its power without due process against its own people.

And most everyone in the democratic world gets upset when they see people of a religion persecuted be a government. Hence the chant for Free Palestine.


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Yeah, and mine is drug free!!!

Are you saying OCD is a drug addict?


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Jenkins is the latest pardon Trump has given to loyal supporters.


Author: MARTHA BELLISLE (Associated Press)
Published: 7:21 AM EDT May 27, 2025
Updated: 9:41 AM EDT May 27, 2025



WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump said Monday that he is pardoning a former Virginia sheriff who was sentenced to 10 years in prison after a jury convicted him on federal bribery charges for deputizing several businessmen in exchange for cash payments.

Former Culpeper County Sheriff Scott Jenkins, 53, was found guilty on fraud and bribery charges and sentenced in March. But on Monday, Trump posted on his social media platform Truth Social that Jenkins and his family “have been dragged through HELL by a Corrupt and Weaponized Biden DOJ."

“This Sheriff is a victim of an overzealous Biden Department of Justice, and doesn’t deserve to spend a single day in jail. He is a wonderful person, who was persecuted by the Radical Left “monsters,” and “left for dead,” Trump said in the post. “He will NOT be going to jail tomorrow, but instead will have a wonderful and productive life."

Messages seeking comment were left with Jenkins' lawyers. The U.S. Attorney's Office for the Western District of Virginia was closed for the Memorial Day holiday.

Jenkins is the latest pardon Trump has given to loyal supporters. In April, he pardoned Nevada Republican Michele Fiore, who was awaiting sentencing on federal charges that she used money meant for a statue honoring a slain police officer for personal costs, including plastic surgery.

In January, Trump pardoned Ross Ulbricht, the founder of Silk Road, an underground website for selling drugs. Ulbricht had been sentenced to life in prison in 2015 after a high-profile prosecution that highlighted the internet's role in illegal markets.

He also pardoned, commuted the prison sentences or vowed to dismiss the cases of all of the 1,500-plus people charged with crimes in the Jan. 6, 2021, U.S. Capitol riot, including people convicted of assaulting police officers.

Jenkins was indicted in 2023 on 16 counts — including conspiracy, wire fraud and bribery — concerning programs receiving federal funds. In December, a jury found him guilty of one count of conspiracy, four counts of honest services fraud, and seven counts of bribery.

Jenkins took the stand in his own defense and said there was no connection between the payments he received and the badges he handed out, according to news reports. Testifying against Jenkins were two undercover FBI agents who were sworn in as auxiliary deputies in 2022 and immediately thereafter gave Jenkins envelopes with $5,000 and $10,000 cash, respectively.
Jenkins appealed his conviction in April.

Trump said Jenkins tried to offer evidence in his defense, but U.S. District Judge Robert Ballou, a Biden appointee, “refused to allow it, shut him down, and then went on a tirade.”
Acting United States Attorney Zachary T. Lee said at the time that Jenkins violated his oath of office “and this case proves that when those officials use their authority for unjust personal enrichment, the Department of Justice will hold them accountable.”



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Trump Pardons Reality Stars Todd and Julie Chrisley Following Tax Evasion and Bank Fraud Convictions
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Updated Tue, May 27, 2025 at 5:38 PM EDT2 min read


President Donald Trump has fully pardoned Todd and Julie Chrisley after the reality stars were convicted of tax evasion and bank fraud in 2022.

White House communications advisor Margo Martin posted a video to X on Tuesday of Trump on the phone with their daughter Savannah Chrisley, delivering the news that he will fully pardon her parents.

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“It’s a terrible thing, but it’s a great thing because your parents are going to be free and clean, and I hope we can do it by tomorrow,” Trump told Savannah Chrisley in the video. “We’ll try getting it done tomorrow. I don’t know them, but give them my regards and wish them a good life.”

Trump went on to say that Todd and Julie Chrisley were given “a pretty harsh treatment” for their crimes.

Todd Chrisley was set to face 12 years in prison while Julie was sentenced to serve seven, according to WSB-TV in Atlanta. In June 2022, they were accused of falsifying documents to defraud Atlanta banks out of more than $30 million through fraudulent loans. They also hid millions of dollars from the IRS that they earned from their show “Chrisley Knows Best,” a federal jury found. Back in February, their attorney told NBC that Trump was “seriously” considering pardoning the Chrisleys.

The couple’s accountant Peter Tarantino was also sentenced to three years in prison for his hand in the scheme. He was convicted of conspiring to defraud the IRS and filing false tax returns. There has been no word on whether or not a pardon for Tarantino is in the works.


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tactics of crossing police lines, assaulting federal agents, and going around shooting people?

It ended up working out fine for MAGA.

The difference is we didn't have elected members of congress and their staff being the ones pushing through those lines.


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So, some people in Isreal don't understand what it takes to defend themselves from terrorist.

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You couldn't be more wrong and more ignorant if you tried... and I know you have tried so very hard to be both.


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I was wondering what the hell you were talking about. I think I get it now. She wasn't trying to "cross a police line". She was trying to help a mayor keep from getting arrested. Do you get your FOX News feed intravenously? And are you actually trying to compare this to Jan. 6th? Come on man.



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I saw a quote recently that really resonated: "There is a battle right now between spectacle and substance. Spectacle currently has undisputed control of the high ground."


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I was wondering what the hell you were talking about. I think I get it now. She wasn't trying to "cross a police line". She was trying to help a mayor keep from getting arrested. Do you get your FOX News feed intravenously? And are you actually trying to compare this to Jan. 6th? Come on man.


Think what you want if it makes you feel better.

I think many of you need to watch more Fox news. It's pretty well proven what you have been watching has been full of lies.

It's been nothing but cover up with those people you have been watching. They have been stroking your ego for the last 10 years.

How much BS do you need to be spoon fed before you decide you don't like the taste?


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I don't know. At last count you're watching 787 million dollars worth of BS...................

Fox, Dominion reach $787M settlement over election claims

https://apnews.com/article/fox-news...mp-2020-0ac71f75acfacc52ea80b3e747fb0afe

They had already been inside and were now on the outside before any of this happened. And they weren't trying to get back inside. They just wanted those officers to get their hands off of them now that they had peacefully left the compound. And of course you try to compare that to this...........................



And this.................



What the hell happened to you man?


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I think it's more that a lot of us consider a multitude of sources and boil the facts down to what they are, or at least make an attempt to do so. Calling out the current admin for blatant flaws, lies, mishaps, et al does not mean that we fell for something hook, line and sinker. In fact, when I sift through the vast majority of posts from people who did not vote for 47 on this forum, I find quite a high level of dissatisfaction with the Dems. On the other side, those who remain on this forum show no signs of criticism of the current admin, even when it is blatantly warranted, and those who might have found fault with the current admin, have Houdini'd their way out of the forum.

In fact, there are blatant anomalies that I have never seen a 47 supporter acknowledge, like this one:

“I was disappointed to see the massive spending bill, frankly, which increases the budget deficit, not just decreases it, and undermines the work that the DOGE team is doing,” Musk told CBS News in an interview clip released Tuesday.

The legislation would add $3 trillion or more to federal budget deficits over the next decade with tax cuts that are only partially offset by spending reductions.

The White House and most other Republicans have insisted, contrary to all budget experts, that the tax cuts will be so good for business that they will juice government revenue and make up the difference. So it’s striking for Musk, a close ally of the president, to dump on the bill.

And it’s not like Musk has a problem with questionable budget projections, such as his claims that his DOGE team could find $1 trillion in annual savings by cutting government waste, or that they’ve eliminated $175 billion so far even as real-time federal data shows the government spending more than it did last year by roughly that same amount.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...7309dee5964f4284a71256e1517726&ei=16

So, is DOGE a failure, or is the bill bad, like he said? How has this administration made well on its promises so far when you look at everything that has been implemented? I'll give you the border. But all else looks to be volatile at best (economy) or a trending failure at worst (Ukraine, DOGE).


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Trump will 'take a look' at pardoning convicted Whitmer kidnap plotters, he says

Todd Spangler and Arpan Lobo, Detroit Free Press
Wed, May 28, 2025 at 2:34 PM EDT5 min read

President Donald Trump said he will look at pardoning the men convicted of conspiring to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer in 2020.

Speaking to reporters in the Oval Office on May 28th, Trump was asked if he was looking at such a pardon. He answered, "I'm going to take a look at it."

The question came after Ed Martin Jr., who is the new pardon attorney for the U.S. Department of Justice, made a comment on "The Breanna Morello Show" podcast last week. Martin said that he was taking a "hard look" at whether Barry Croft Jr. and Adam Fox warranted pardons, comparing them to the people Trump pardoned in connection with the Jan. 6, 2021 attack by his supporters on the U.S. Capitol as Congress met to certify the 2020 election for former President Joe Biden.

Trump made his remarks to reporters as he attended the swearing-in of former Fox News host Jeanine Pirro as interim U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia. Martin had previously been tapped for that role but his name was pulled after he began to lose Republican support in the Senate.

Asked about pardons for the conspirators in the Whitmer case, Trump said, "It’s been brought to my attention. I did watch the trial. It looked to me like somewhat of a railroad job, I’ll be honest with you. It looked to me like some people said some stupid things. You know, they were drinking and I think they said stupid things."

Trump went on to say that "a lot of people are asking me that question (about pardoning the conspirators), from both sides actually. A lot of people think they got railroaded. ... and probably some people don’t."

Whitmer's office did not respond to an inquiry sent Wednesday afternoon about Trump's comments.

The comments come less than two months after Trump praised Whitmer in the Oval Office for "doing an excellent job," as she helped win the Republican president's support for a new fighter mission at Selfridge Air National Guard Base in Macomb County and to get work started again on a barrier to keep invasive Asian carp from reaching Lake Michigan. Trump followed through on both commitments during a trip to Michigan in April.

As president, Trump may pardon or commute the sentence of anyone convicted under federal law.

While the president has the authority to unilaterally issue pardons or commutations, the Office of the Pardon Attorney typically reviews and investigates applications for clemency that are submitted to the Justice Department, then forwards recommendations about whether to grant them or not to the president. It's unusual for a pardon attorney to comment on a case, even when an application has been filed. Neither Fox nor Croft appear to have applications in the Justice Department files.

The federal government alleged in 2020 that Barry Croft and Adam Fox were two members of a group (led by Fox) that plotted to kidnap and possibly kill Whitmer after being disgruntled with her handling of the COVID-19 pandemic. Testimony during the trial revealed Fox, Croft and others, including FBI informants, traveled to northern Michigan where they “cased” Whitmer’s vacation home.

Fox and Croft are the two defendants federal prosecutors were able to successfully convict after a pair of trials in 2022 — initially, a jury acquitted Brandon Caserta and Daniel Harris, whom the government also alleged plotted to kidnap Whitmer, and were hung on Fox and Croft. But at a second trial later that year, jurors in west Michigan returned guilty verdicts for the latter two. Fox was sentenced to 16 years in prison on conspiracy to kidnap and conspiracy to possess weapons of mass destruction charges, while Croft was sentenced to 19 years on the same two charges as Fox, plus a third charge of knowingly possessing an unregistered destructive device. Their trials were held in U.S. District Court in Grand Rapids. Federal court proceedings aren't typically livestreamed, although an audio dial-in broadcast of the trials was provided.

During the trials, attorneys for Fox and Croft argued the two were entrapped by rogue informants and undercover FBI agents, and the two were just engaged in crude talk about their dissatisfaction about the pandemic.

Fox, originally from Potterville, was living in the basement of a Grand Rapids vacuum repair shop at the time he was charged. His defense attorney argued he couldn’t have possibly led a kidnapping plot because he was such a loner.

Croft was a truck driver from Delaware. He was arrested by FBI agents at a truck stop in New Jersey. During the trial, Croft could be heard on an audio recording explaining he was making explosives. At his sentencing, Croft’s attorney said the former truck driver fell “way down a conspiracy rabbit hole.”

Two other men, Kaleb Franks and Ty Garbin, pleaded guilty to kidnapping charges and testified at the trials. They've both served reduced prison sentences and have been released, according to online federal prison records.

Fox and Croft are currently serving out their sentences in a maximum security federal prison in Colorado. In April, the U.S. 6th Circuit Court of Appeals affirmed sentences for the pair, who argued they didn’t get a fair trial before they were convicted because of how the judge overseeing the case set rules on how long their defense attorneys could cross-examine government witnesses.

The kidnapping plot and the ensuing trials sparked debate over the rise of radicalism and domestic terrorism in the U.S., while defense lawyers argued the charges were a product of overzealous FBI informants and undercover agents.

At the time Fox and Croft were convicted, Whitmer said the verdicts "prove that violence and threats have no place in our politics and those who seek to divide us will be held accountable."

State prosecutors had mixed results in local courts, landing convictions for others accused of providing support to the kidnapping plot. Others charged at the state level were acquitted. The Constitution only permits the president to pardon convictions in federal courts.

In total, 14 men were charged as part of the plot.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-look-pardoning-convicted-whitmer-183409500.html


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Dotd, we must live in completely different realities.

Yeah, and mine is drug free!!!


Good for you. There’s nothing wrong with that at all. But square life ain’t for me. Are you alcohol free too? No cigarettes? If so, you’re golden until they regulate media like fox News as a class 2 stupidification drug.

And if anybody could use a little weed, it’s guys who think weed is drugs.

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Trump makes statements and inferences like that when he’s trying to distract the news headline from an issue he’s trying to avoid. Right now, Ukraine is a mess and the fed just hinted toward stagflation.

Do I think Trump would do something as despicable as what he just said? Yes. He pardoned Tarrio for goodness sake. But I think we need to hold his feet to the fire on the country’s direction and the execution of his campaign promises. I’m trying not to buy into his nonsense headlines anymore.


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You have the same problem so many Fox news watchers have. They show what they know you want to see. Feeding you're inability to take in the whole truth. So they edit out things that they know you as a MAGA will never grasp.

We on the left of this discussion have seen what Fox shows, then watched the entire footage and can actually see how Fox is editing things out.

So I think it's YOU that need to expand your viewership to include ABC, NBC and CBS. You'll find, unlike what trump and his minions tell you, all they do is just show you what happened and let you decide what it means.

Every morning I watch the Today Program. It's not just the news of the day, but it's also the other things I find interesting (and yes, some things just aren't) But the bottom line, that show never tries to tell me what to think. They show complete videos and let you decide for yourself.. Something that Fox, Trump and the entire MAGA movement doesn't want.... They want you to believe what they tell you and to forget whatever else is going on.

I'm shocked and surprised that a man of your apparent intellect hasn't figured that out yet. I know you know better.


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I'm not sure if he will pardon those who committed the kidnapping plot against Whitmer. As with many things he says it could be all smoke and mirrors. But when one stops to think about it for a moment, as was mentioned he not only pardoned Tarrio but all of the Jan. 6th rioters which includes those who assaulted more than 100 police officers that day. If he will reward criminals who committed crimes in support of him, why wouldn't he reward criminals who committed crimes against democrats?

This is now the America we live in.


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tactics of crossing police lines, assaulting federal agents, and going around shooting people?

It ended up working out fine for MAGA.

The difference is we didn't have elected members of congress and their staff being the ones pushing through those lines.

Unelected person sending his minions to occupy the Capitol is different, but not better.


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Just for clarification he was still the sitting president that was elected in 2016 at the time. So he was the elected sitting president.


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Just for clarification he was still the sitting president that was elected in 2016 at the time. So he was the elected sitting president.

That only makes it worse.

I love how the narrative changed after J6. The day after we had so many republicans coming out wanting to take Trump down for his actions that day..

Then of course, came the spin doctors and damned if same republicans that condemned Trump began Defending him. First it was ANTIFA that put on Pro Trump Garb and attacked the capital... Then it was peaceful.... Those that fell for that crap are by far, the dumbest Americans ever. If you listen to Fox, Brietbart, Newsnation and the like.... They all did America a disservice. Where is the Fairness Doctrine when you need it.

https://www.reaganlibrary.gov/archives/topic-guide/fairness-doctrine


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Trump is nothing more than a SUPER DUPER- Rush Limbaugh- the radio host was HUGE in 90s- he had all conservaties calling in and saying he was genius- known as DITTOHEADS.... fast forward, Trump has MAGA, he can do no wrong. Sad. Rush never graduated from college, failure many, many times, four marriages, was addicted to several thing....sound familiar. We are all flawed human beings- me included, but WOW-- we got a real one as President. PEACE.


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Missouri legislature repeals sick leave law that voters approved just months before

The legislation repeals the entire earned sick leave portion of Proposition A as well as a portion of the minimum wage increase. Only one Republican joined all Democrats in voting no.

Missouri Senate Republicans voted Wednesday to repeal portions of a voter-approved law that allowed employees to earn paid sick leave and a higher minimum wage.

Members of the Senate voted 22-11 to pass legislation that repeals parts of Proposition A, which Missouri voters approved in November with 57.6% of the vote.

Only one Republican, Sen. Lincoln Hough, R-Springfield, joined all 10 Democrats in voting no.

"What we saw today was the Republican supermajority, whether they did it because of corporate greed or their corporate overlords telling them what to do, they took away sick pay for millions of workers in the state of Missouri," Senate Minority Leader Doug Beck, D-Affton, said.

Currently, through Proposition A, workers can earn one hour of paid sick leave for every 30 hours worked.

Proposition A also raised the minimum wage to an eventual $15 an hour in 2026 and tied minimum wage to the Consumer Price Index, meaning minimum wage increases would be tied to the CPI beginning in 2027.

On Jan. 1 of this year, the minimum wage rose to $13.75 an hour. It will rise again to $15 an hour in 2026.

The paid sick leave portion of the law went into effect on May 1.

However, the new legislation repeals the entire the paid sick leave portion as well as the tie-in to the CPI, so the minimum wage would not increase after 2026.

Senate Republicans stopped a potential Democrat filibuster with a rarely used procedural move to force a vote on the legislation.

The Senate used the same move, called a previous question, to force a vote on an amendment that would once again ban most abortions in the state.

Afterward, the Senate ended this year's session, which was scheduled to last until 6 p.m. Friday.

Sen. Jason Bean, R-Holcomb, said no one wants to see that motion in the Senate but believes it was time for one.

"We got through those, as you saw, in a very amicable way, very respectful way. So, we have ended session," Bean said.

However, Senate Democrats expressed outrage over the action, with several saying this decision will carry over into future sessions.

"Moving forward, we're going to operate with an assumption that the Republicans don't respect their fellow senators, they don't respect the voters, they don't respect the process, they don't respect the institution. And we didn't pick this fight, but we're not scared of it," Sen. Stephen Webber, D-Columbia, said.

Wednesday marked the third time that the Senate brought up this legislation.

Sen. Mike Bernskoetter, R-Jefferson City, handled the bill. Speaking the first time it was up for debate, he said it hindered businesses.

"It creates a one-size-fits-all for all businesses to follow, and businesses should be able to tailor their workplace policies to best meet the needs of their company and their employees," Bernskoetter said.

The first two times the bill was up for debate, lawmakers spent hours negotiating the legislation without reaching a final compromise.

Because the legislation, which was previously approved by the House, was unchanged by the Senate, the bill now goes to Gov. Mike Kehoe.

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Just a short time after him and the children he took with him went on the sewage swim we have this.......................



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I don't know about being a wing nut but certainly a depraved distributor of child sexual abuse porn......

SC Rep. RJ May facing 10 counts of child sex charges

COLUMBIA, S.C. (WSPA) – South Carolina Representative Robert John “RJ” May has been arrested for allegedly committing child sex crimes.

A federal grand jury in Greenville returned a 10-count indictment against the 38-year-old, of West Columbia, for distributing child sexual abuse material.

May has represented House District 88 in Lexington County since 2021.

He was reelected in November after facing no opposition in the primary or general election.

According to court documents and statements made in court, in April 2024, the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children received a cyber-tip from the social messaging app Kik. Kik flagged several videos from the username “joebidennnn69” as containing child sexual abuse.

Further into the investigation, authorities connected the account to the home IP address and mobile device of May.

Investigators also identified at least 10 videos depicting child sexual abuse that were shared from the account.

May faces a maximum penalty of 20 years in federal prison with a minimum of five years, a fine of $250,000, and a term of at least five years of supervised release to follow any term of imprisonment, according to officials.

https://www.wsav.com/news/sc-rep-rj-may-facing-10-counts-of-child-sex-charges/

It's not like a sex trafficking ring in the basement of a pizza place that has no basement but still.....


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This interview keeps paying dividends the more you watch:



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My opinion on Tucker is that he would shill for the Devil if the money was good. And my opinion of Ted Cruz is about the same.

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The Bible says I will bless those that bless Israel and curse those that curse Israel. Command is too strong of a word. God always gives free will to people to follow or not. Throughout the Bible Israel had good kings and bad kings so it does not say bless them only when they have good kings. I support Israel because of this decree.

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The Bible says I will bless those that bless Israel and curse those that curse Israel. Command is too strong of a word. God always gives free will to people to follow or not. Throughout the Bible Israel had good kings and bad kings so it does not say bless them only when they have good kings. I support Israel because of this decree.

I'm willing to bet I can find a rant from you about the Iranian caliphate after they've done something equivalent to what's being discussed here.


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It seems you pick and choose whose deaths you care about more. We have watched Netanyahu bomb schools, hospitals and refugee camps. Killing tens of thousands of innocent women and children. We have watched him purposefully cut off food and medicine to those same elderly, women and children to the point they starving and dying. Is that what you claim God says we should support?

No it's not. I support the people of Israel. I support the Jewish faith. I do not support the Netanyahu government. Some of us can differentiate between good and evil. It appears some of us can't.

The death of a Palestinian or Iranian child is every bit as sad and painful to watch as the death of an Israeli child to some of us. And I'm not sure which bible you've been reading, but the bible I read makes me think it's just as painful to God as well.


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Let me put this in the simplest of terms. What is a nation? What makes up a nation?

A nation is the people who live within it's borders. It is not simply the king, president or prime minister that currently rules that nation. A single politician and his power at the time is not a nation.

Let me give you an example. Over the years I have watched you and others on this board rail against both Obama and Biden. You've railed against their policies, the things they have said and much of their overseas and trade policies. Did that mean you didn't you didn't support the U.S.A.? Did the fact you didn't vote for them and tried to elect someone else with a different ideology mean you didn't support America? Did the fact that you wanted someone else elected which would remove them from power mean you didn't support America?

Because that seems to be what you're saying about Israel.

No, no it didn't and doesn't mean that. Just like I don't support trump and many of his policies doesn't mean I don't support and love my country.

I believe you love our country every bit as much as I do. I certainly don't understand some of the things you say and they don't make sense to me but I'm sure you feel the same way about me. But the fact remains we both love our nation.

I don't support Netanyahu. I support the people of Israel. Those aren't the same thing. I support the nation of Israel. I do not support its leader. Hopefully now you will be able to see the difference there.


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Theocracy is generally a bad thing, let them fight it out as they have been doing for 1500 years.

Yes, that applies to both Israel and Iran.

That whole thing about separation of church and state was a pretty good idea.


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It was a pretty good idea. I would say a great idea. But we now have people trying to blur those lines and muddy the waters. Let's hope what our forefathers set in place prevails.


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It's sad to think that so many in America thinks it's okay to attack a school who disagrees with a president by abusing the power of his office with punitive measures.


In the case of Harvard, he's abusing powers his office doesn't even have.... In fact, never had.


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