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So we shouldn't carry the heavy investment in a QB we don't need ..... and should "resurrect" some washed up QB, and trade both DA and Quinn for picks and defensive help. I mean .... if any bum'll do ...... let's take drastic measures to fix the defense ... right?
"Any bumb will do"?????
And where did you arrive at that conclusion?
It's really pretty simple. We have a VERY GOOD OL. Many teams do not have that luxury. Can you picture DA on a team with a poor OL? ( remember last year?)
Point being, there are QB's out there who are NOT extremly mobile, that are in systems without a good OL. Sort of "out of their element". Much like DA was before we shored up the OL.
You're back to the "catch 22" I mentioned earlier. IF DA ends up as our back up, we may miss out on a great current D stud and a high second round pick to help build our D.
DA is not "franchise QB material due to his limitations". 10-5 with your QB quite capable of imploding late in the season does not a franchise QB make. Nor it will it win you a Super Bowl.
So yes, a "fairly accurate QB" who isn't very mobile, will look TERRIBLE in the wrong system or without a good OL. We have a good OL and can create that pocket.
So yes, not "any bumb" can do the job. But a decsent QB who is in the wrong system, could be a VERY capable "back up" to Quinn.
You are getting a tad better at sarcasm though. Kudo's!
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Here's the funny part Jules.................... SO MANY PEOPLE were crowing about how "If we fix the OL, the QB's will look better. They will have a comfort zone and a pocket". All of that is QUITE TRUE! Now that we've built that OL and they DO look better? Now they think that QB "deserves all the credit"  Short sightedness never ceases to amaze me. It's the OL that has "turned this team around", not DA.
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You and I have talked about this enough for you to know I agree with that, I really don't get it myself. Some of these people are even giving DA most of the credit for the huge decrease in sacks.  I guess I find it amazing the lengths at which people will go to prove their own point....and then blame others for doing the exact same thing.....
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Please don't presume to know who I might consider a stupid person.
If you didn't understand that I was kidding around with both you and Jules then one of two things has to happen,, either I gotta get funnier or give up the kidding with people, or you gotta take you head out of your butt,,
I'll leave that up to you to decide
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Browns GM Savage says Crennel's contract will be extended soon; names Anderson starting QB for next season by Mary Kay Cabot Wednesday January 09, 2008, 12:30 PM Romeo Crennel is 20-28 in three seasons.The Browns plan to extend the contract of coach Romeo Crennel, as early as the next few days, Browns general manager Phil Savage said during his post-season news conference today in Berea. "We have every intention of doing something with Romeo and we'll do right by him,'' said Savage. "Hopefully it will be addressed in the next few days. If not, then in the next few weeks.'' Savage said he's open to options, including a multi-year extension. Crennel is under contract for two more seasons. Savage also said that Derek Anderson is the starting quarterback heading into next season. Savage said Anderson has earned the chance to be the Browns starting quarterback again in 2008, following his breakout 2007 season, in which he was named a Pro Bowl alternate. He said the Browns feel Anderson should have "a chance to go into the batter's box and swing for the fences next years. Our expectation is that he'll hit some home runs for us.'' Savage said, in effect, that this means both Anderson and Brady Quinn are off the market for 2008. Crennel had said earlier that Anderson was the starter as of now, but that the team would listen to offers. Savage also acknowledged that the Browns have contacted the agents for Jamal Lewis and Anderson and will begin negotiations to extend their contracts as soon as this week. "We have a couple of different options for Derek," said Savage. "We're more apt to want to do something with Derek that would take him beyond the 2008 season. We want to go into next season with both of our quarterbacks, plus Ken Dorsey intact. We want to make sure we stay strong at that position for at least one more year." Lewis' contract is up after this season and Anderson is set to become a restricted free agent if he's not re-signed by the end of the February. Lewis has said he'd love to be back and would be flexible on his contract structure. -- Mary Kay Cabot http://www.cleveland.com/browns/
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SO MANY PEOPLE were crowing about how "If we fix the OL, the QB's will look better. They will have a comfort zone and a pocket".
Don't know if I ever put it that way exactly, but I do remember saying that I would like to see Charlie Frye behind a line that was a lot better... I guess it's saying the same thing....
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Now that we've built that OL and they DO look better? Now they think that QB "deserves all the credit"
What I mostly don't like are the comments that we've been reading that any QB would look great behind our current line. I don't think that's exactly true either.
I do think an average QB would look better behind our line than he would behind the line we had before. Can't prove it,, but I think so.
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DA is not "franchise QB material due to his limitations". 10-5 with your QB quite capable of imploding late in the season does not a franchise QB make. Nor it will it win you a Super Bowl.
Perhaps ...... but I would invite you to look at the late sason struggles of some (now) rather famous QBs in their 1st seasons as starters.
For a guy who hadn't played in several years, and now was playing an almost complete season, wear and tear on an arm unused to that workload isn't unexpected. (especially for a guy who relies upon his arm strength a great deal)
I would expect a similar late season downturn for Quinn in his 1st season as a starter as well. Anyone who doesn't is naive. College QBs just don't play the same length schedule as they do in the pros.
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Savage said, in effect, that this means both Anderson and Brady Quinn are off the market for 2008. Crennel had said earlier that Anderson was the starter as of now, but that the team would listen to offers.
Thanks for the read Jules,,
That makes me happy, but I wonder if there is a weeee bit of posturing going on... There really isn't any reason for him to comment otherwise.. not this early anyway..
I like DA being here.. I like the idea of both Quinn and DA trying to fight to be our starting QB next season.. I like the idea throwing them out there and let the best man win the job.. and I really don't care which one it is either.
But what I want to see is DA signing a long term contract.. otherwise, might as well trade him now. Cause if you don't and by chance he doesn't win the competition between him an Quinn, then you will surely lose him next season and will get Nothing in return..
To me, that's dumb.
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If we kept DA another season without signing an extension, we could still franchise him and trade him (considering he was good enough for the tag)
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...wear and tear on an arm unused to that workload isn't unexpected.
Does that go for wear and tear on his decision making too?
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Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Savage also said that Derek Anderson is the starting quarterback heading into next season. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "We have a couple of different options for Derek," said Savage. "We're more apt to want to do something with Derek that would take him beyond the 2008 season. We want to go into next season with both of our quarterbacks, plus Ken Dorsey intact. We want to make sure we stay strong at that position for at least one more year." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These are the sentiments I have expressed. Sign him and go into next season with both. If Brady beats him out we still can trade him. His value will still be high because every season teams are not happy with their QB situations. If we hold firm on what we would want for him I think it is still a strong possibility we can get a good price. That is if we feel we need to get rid of him. This is all subject to being able to sign him. It may not be that easy of a task. We might end up having to let a team sign him to an offer sheet that we won't match. We don't know what kind of value he thinks he is worth. This whole drama is just starting, not ending. 
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Perhaps ...... but I would invite you to look at the late sason struggles of some (now) rather famous QBs in their 1st seasons as starters.
And would those "now famous starters" you speak of....................were they "rookies" or in their "third year in the NFL" during their "first starting season"?????
Oh yes, I know there are a "couple". But overall, you're trying to compare fresh from college rookies to a third year pro. Are you not?
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Some of these people are even giving DA most of the credit for the huge decrease in sacks.
He doesn't deserve most of the credit, but he does deserve a lot of it. His quick release and lack of indecsion has helped out our line a lot. They don't need to hold their blocks nearly as long. I also wonder if it changes their menatlity somewhat knowing they don't have to worry as much. Do they block more aggresively knowing they have less to worry about? When Frye was back there were they being more cautious because they knew if they made a mistake Frye would get sacked?
I don't know what kind of mentality an Olineman has. Can anyone give me some perspective?
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If we kept DA another season without signing an extension, we could still franchise him and trade him (considering he was good enough for the tag)
True,, but if he doesn't win the QB competition, would he then be someone that you would want to tag? What if we tag him and nobody wants to pay the 10 or 12 million a year it would take to make a trade happen? we are stuck.
Now, if he wins the QB job here and goes on to another good year.. then yeah,, there could be an argument made that he's worth a long term contract for a lot of money.. (I'd still be weary of the tag type money, but that's just me)
But by then, its out of the Browns control.. I'd prefer to handle things one of two ways..
Sign DA to a long term deal now.. let he and quinn fight it out in camp.. the best man wins..
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And would those "now famous starters" you speak of....................were they "rookies" or in their "third year in the NFL" during their "first starting season"?????
And were they on teams with an impenetrable offensive line or did they play for a bad teams with a bad line?
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Oh yes, I know there are a "couple". But overall, you're trying to compare fresh from college rookies to a third year pro. Are you not?
How much difference is there between a 3 year pro that had, up till this year, only started 3 games, versus a Raw, fresh out of the box rookie that hasn't started any,, The answer,, 3 games and a whole lot of camp time..
I'd venture a guess that the camp time may well be more important but that's just a guess.. (if we are talking about more than just 3 starts, maybe like 5 to 8 starts, I'd change the more important factor to the games)
But if Camp time IS the more important factor, then wouldn't having 3 different coordinators in 2 different systems on two different teams kinda kill that advantage?
Just wondering
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Sign DA to a long term deal now.. let he and quinn fight it out in camp.. the best man wins..
Damanshot, I know we've discussed this recently, but I still don't see how we can do this. Seriously. Won't his agent demand a guarantee that he's our starter and the future of our franchise (knowing Quinn is waiting in the wings to take over) before he agrees to sign any deal here? If I were his agent, I sure would. They obviously think that DA has some value. Why would you have your client sign a long-term contract knowing that he's gonna have to fight for his job in camp, especially considering DA couldn't even beat out Charlie Frye in camp last year. I dunno. I guess we'll see, but I have a hard time believing this will happen.
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Sign DA to a long term deal now.. let he and quinn fight it out in camp.. the best man wins..
Damanshot, I know we've discussed this recently, but I still don't see how we can do this. Seriously. Won't his agent demand a guarantee that he's our starter and the future of our franchise (knowing Quinn is waiting in the wings to take over) before he agrees to sign any deal here? If I were his agent, I sure would. They obviously think that DA has some value. Why would you have your client sign a long-term contract knowing that he's gonna have to fight for his job in camp, especially considering DA couldn't even beat out Charlie Frye in camp last year. I dunno. I guess we'll see, but I have a hard time believing this will happen.
How can u guarantee someone a starting job ?? If Quinn looks a lot better in preseason you'd have to go with him.I dont think there are many GUARANTEE'S in this sport.
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Well, according to Mary Kay Cabot, Savage already did. 
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How much difference is there between a 3 year pro that had, up till this year, only started 3 games, versus a Raw, fresh out of the box rookie that hasn't started any,, The answer,, 3 games and a whole lot of camp time..
It would mean they've worked out, practiced and been coached for THREE YEARS in the "NFL". That they are familiar with "the speed of the game". That pro coaches have had THREE YEARS to try to "coach them up" and break their bad habits. That's precisely what "that" means. And still, many of the same tendancies exist.
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I'd venture a guess that the camp time may well be more important but that's just a guess.. (if we are talking about more than just 3 starts, maybe like 5 to 8 starts, I'd change the more important factor to the games)
So I guess that being coached and playing and practicing in the NFL for three years doesn't quite equate to "the few more starts" you're speaking of?
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But if Camp time IS the more important factor, then wouldn't having 3 different coordinators in 2 different systems on two different teams kinda kill that advantage?
Just wondering
(sorry, had to edit, had the numbers wrong!)
Funny you should mention that................
You see, when you get legitimate first round talent with all the tools and tangibles, that doesn't seem to be a problem. Joe Thomas is a rookie who only played ONE YEAR under ONE OC. He'll be at the pro bowl.
If it took him untill his THIRD year to "start getting it", I'd wonder about his abilities too, wouldn't you?
Just wondering.........
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Well, according to Mary Kay Cabot, Savage already did.
No he didn't.
According to the title of Mary Kay's story he did, but if you read his quotes Savage said Derek "earned the right to a chance".
Mary Kay is about as slick as they come when it comes to writing a title. It's often misleading as this one is.
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I'm just going to sit back ( in the cheap seats ) and watch this all play out between now and the end of July  .. I am more interested in seeing what happens with this RAC. extension ..
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That pro coaches have had THREE YEARS to try to "coach them up" and break their bad habits.
So we agree, camp time is more important.. I mean, isn't that where they get "coached up" as you put it?
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So I guess that being coached and playing and practicing in the NFL for three years doesn't quite equate to "the few more starts" you're speaking of?
OK wiseguy,, did you not see where I said I was guessing? So, according to your thinking, playing 5,6,7 or 8 games isn't as good or important as camp time?
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Ahh, Pit,,,, yoo hoo,, I thought we were discussing DA,, a 6th round pick, not any first round pick. I don't understand the connection.
I would hope that a 1st round pick would have the ability to navigate the system, learn faster, perform better and sooner, than a 6th round pick.. if not,, then didn't we blew the pick,,,
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If it took him untill his THIRD year to "start getting it", I'd wonder about his abilities too, wouldn't you?
Once again, the connection between a 6th rounder and a 1 rounder is going way over my head.. sorry..
But, let me say this so at least you know where I'm coming from on some of these things..
I've always been told by those in the know or at least those I think are in the know that it sometimes takes guys who play certain positions as much as 3 years to really have the light come on.
Among those positions were QB and WR and LT. Oddly enough, it's safe to say that Edwards light came on this year.. this was the year his brain was as engaged as much as his physical talents were. It sure paid off didn't it.. 3 years man.,.,, three years and he got called Leon and beat to death by some posters for the first two years.
Oddly enough, the very person we are discussing took three years also,, DA.. But the difference between them is this, we expected BE to blossom,, he was after all, a 1st round pick.. he was supposed to be a stud.
DA,,well, honestly, when Baltimore picked him in the 6th round, I doubt they had STUD written down anywhere regarding him.
As for the LT,, did we hit a home run with Thomas or what! WOW. On this, I know we agree.
So I think, given where DA has come from, the lack of playing time (yes, he was coached up), and general mess this team was in last season.. I'd say that DA did pretty darn well and I also believe he can get better..
HOW MUCH BETTER? Hell if I know.. personally, I think Quinn has the greater upside,, but that's as big a guess as me saying that DA can get better.
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According to the title of Mary Kay's story he did, but if you read his quotes Savage said Derek "earned the right to a chance".
Exactly right.....and when you think about it, it sounds like a backhanded slap. If I was DA, I would think about telling Phil to pound salt unless he came up with very serious money.......but one would need to hear the way it was said to listen for some context.
As it reads, it doesn't sound that good to me.
He deserves a chance to comptete for the starting role?? Earth to Phil, the guy has been starting for a season now, and did pretty darn good when you add it up.
He has earned a chance to compete?? GMAFB
I can understand if he said Quinn will be given a chance to compete for the starting job.....but DA will be given a chance??
That is kind of a screwy comment if you ask me.
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Perhaps ...... but I would invite you to look at the late sason struggles of some (now) rather famous QBs in their 1st seasons as starters.
And would those "now famous starters" you speak of....................were they "rookies" or in their "third year in the NFL" during their "first starting season"?????
Oh yes, I know there are a "couple". But overall, you're trying to compare fresh from college rookies to a third year pro. Are you not?
Tom Brady looked pretty good at the end of his first season starting.. he's pretty famous
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I guess I find it amazing the lengths at which people will go to prove their own point....and then blame others for doing the exact same thing.....
Unreal. You either can't read, or like to lie. And it comes right after you accused Peen of it.
The statement was that DA contributed to the low sack total and that a guy like Frye or Timid would have been sacked more.
And good God..........there is so much garbage on this thread, with people saying things like.........."the facts are," "the bottom line," and "the reality of the situation," to legitimize their opinions.
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Damanshot, I know we've discussed this recently, but I still don't see how we can do this. Seriously. Won't his agent demand a guarantee that he's our starter and the future of our franchise (knowing Quinn is waiting in the wings to take over) before he agrees to sign any deal here? If I were his agent, I sure would.
Sure they could demand it,, but it's really a matter of, there isn't any way that the GM or Coach can GUARANTEE he'll be the starter.. No way.. Unless of course DA and his agent can GUARANTEE that he will beat out Quinn for the job... do you think DA can guarantee that?
No,, neither do I. Thus demanding guarantees doesn't make a whole lotta sense does it?
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No he didn't.
According to the title of Mary Kay's story he did, but if you read his quotes Savage said Derek "earned the right to a chance".
I think I read that a bit different than you did. Also, what Savage said later about bringing in both QBs really goes against what some stated as fact earlier in this thread. Let me guess..........he's posturing? *L*
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He has earned a chance to compete?? GMAFB
He never said "compete".
You can hear the entire presser in the "Browns Sights & Sounds" link at the top of this page.
Being judicial you can likely read him fairly well and do some reading between the lines. I'm courious as to what you hear him say.
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If u think I started a thread on BQ starting U need to listen to water and remember to take your meds int he AM .. *L* ..
Peenie .. I never even stated BQ should start much less started a thread on it ... during the bye week on like page 6 of a thread I told Toad in ONE POST I would start BQ now .. but i had ZERO PROBLEM with them sticking with DA .. NONE WHAT SO EVER ..... thats a far cry from me starting a thread .. and it is the ONLY TIME I EVER SAID IT ...
I said before the start of the season .. U wouldn't here me clamor for BQ or diss the Org. if he got no PT .... and U can say waht u want about me .. i am a man of my word ... and the way DA played .. he made it easy for me ... *L* ..
I still wish we started BQ after the bye .. I think we would be a better team for it next year ... but thats just another thing Iwould ahve done we'll never know about it .. *L* ..
U ARE DEAD WRONG in saying I started a thread about it .. and unless U remember that one OBSCURE post buried on page 6 of a thread during the bye week .. I NEVER EVER EVER MENTIONED IT before or after ..
I CERTAINLY NEVER JUMPED ON THE PEE ON DA BANDWAGON that most on my side of the argument are .. I never really said much after his bad games .. matter of fact I stuck up for him if I did anything .. and i was CONSISTENT in what I said ... when he was GOING GOOD and then when things turned sour I had the same story ...
so U got the wrong Dawg here ....
now .. don't forget your meds in the AM ... *L* ..
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Let me guess..........
Same as my comment to peen. I think it best if everyone listen to him for themselves instead of depending on Mary Kay's story or someone elses interpretation of it. That would likely give a better read to what he actually says than a few short quotes from a short Mary Kay story.
Her history has always been to push for a sensational headline. A scoop if you will.
The title of her story says, "Savage...names Anderson starting QB for next season", but he never does that at all. He comes close to it but defers it to RAC saying, "it's the Head Coach's decision". So he actually, in the end, names nobody nothing. It's not his job so he doesn't do it.
He just came out of end-of-the-season meetings, says they still have a couple of player evaluations to go over, and should know exactly what RAC thinks but acts like he doesn't.
It's not about some kind of wishful thinking. It's about what he did or did not say.
It's easy for me to hear it the wrong way. But at this point, so early in the offseason, I never know exactly what Phil means by what he says. He's not so easy to read as RAC is. He's good at posturing when he actually does it. Some of the things he says turn out exactly like he says them. Other things veer way off his earlier comments when the chips fall. He chooses words pretty carefully.
In a way he does sound like he's saying DA's the starter next season. Then he retracts that by saying it's not his call. So in the end we know no more than we did on that subject than before he spoke.
I'm courious to see how the other local writers interpret his comments.
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If u think I started a thread on BQ starting U need to listen to water and remember to take your meds int he AM .. *L* ..
Psst...Diam, not to bust your chops, but you did start a thread on BQ starting the week after the Bye. Link
Sorry dear, but if I found it, you know someone else would.
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Well I'll be ... let me go grab my meds .. *L* ..
it was the only time I said that though .. and it was when DA was playing "good" ... I stood by my word after that even when DA started to play more like the guy I believe him to be ..
Sorry Peenie ... U WERE RIGHT .... I WAS WRONG ....
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Okay ddubia..........I see what you are saying. Mary Kay has a history of misinterpreting remarks.
But, let me ask you what this quote means to you?
He said the Browns feel Anderson should have "a chance to go into the batter's box and swing for the fences next years. Our expectation is that he'll hit some home runs for us.''
Then, we have this quote:
"We have a couple of different options for Derek," said Savage. "We're more apt to want to do something with Derek that would take him beyond the 2008 season. We want to go into next season with both of our quarterbacks, plus Ken Dorsey intact. We want to make sure we stay strong at that position for at least one more year."
Doesn't this completely contradict the claims that guys like Pit and tab are saying? And doesn't it at least give some credence to what guys like me are saying, which is, "it would be wiser to keep both QBs until one of them completly proves himself.?
"What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us."
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and U could ahve PM'd me so i could adjust it .. *L* ..
I hope all is well .. when U due and do u know what it is yet??
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Let me guess..........he's posturing? *L*
I would really, really, really be surprised if he isn't.
After the conclusion to the season that DA had, posturing is what needs to be done. And if someone were to show some intrest in DA, and were to mention the last few games Phil should blame the weather. A blizzard against Buffalo, gale force winds in Cincy...all three QB's looked bad in those games.
I'm very impressed with PS so far.
One of the first things he did was to go straight to the middle of the OL (Bentley - right idea - typical Browns bad luck). The next year TWO OLINEMEN. He's the first guy since our return that understood what was making us a laughing stock. We still need to do a lot on D...but fixing the OL made us as far from a laughing stock as could be.
PS will not let this QB thing fester into the next season. He's too smart for that. One of these QB's will not be here past April (and I'm pretty sure it's DA that's the odd man out).
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