DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Tailgate Forum Quinshon Judkins Arrested for Domestic Violence

Not good. Time to wait for the suspension handed down from the NFL.

Right on cue.

I want the Vegas odds on Sampson getting injured in the preseason, I need to start making money on my misery. Just can't possibly make this stuff up anymore.

🤣🤣

Ooooof course…

I guess it is the culture OSU builds.

OK, just kidding....we can wash away 5 games from his rookie season. How long was Hall suspended? Didn't his family even recant the claim?

The positive is he hasn't signed yet, unless he signed his deal yesterday and went home and slapped his girl around to celebrate.

No worries, I think Sampson is going to be really good.

I think Berry might need to get his staff digging a little deeper in to some of these guys.

Cant wait to see people defend Judkins . " well hes young and who didn't make mistakes at his age "
That's all we heard on hete when Sanders got pulled over for speeding
Let me know when Andrew Berry turns into a competent GM.

Another season who’s over before it even started.

As an exposed Bengal fan why u still posting here ?

If we would have kept Chubb for one more year instead of Ford I probably wouldn't feel so bad, but I guess we should wait and see how Judkins case plays out. So far? Not looking good (sighs).

Do you want more receipts of your Bengals fandom? I can put them out there if you want.

You remind me of an exgirlfriend. Rest assured, Idontluvherormissher. All she did is b*tch and moan, or wait, was that my dog?? I can't remember, high school was soooo long ago.

I'll break it down...

⦁ "Everyone" didn't say that about Sanders.
⦁ No one is going to say that about Judkins, so you'll be waiting awhile.
⦁ There are no planets in our solar system where driving fast in a fast car is the same as beating a woman.

Agree with the close. Maybe we need to do a better job vetting girlfriends as well?

Yeah, because you know, domestic violence is just like speeding. Did I need purple for that?

But then there was Watson, so.......

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Drafting players with character issues, and yes, being part of domestic violence is a clear sign of weak impulse control and bad decision making, raises questions about scouting and background checks. The Browns recently totally ignored one of the most blatantly clear cases of character issues, DSW, and now we’re here again.

Is it always bad luck when these mistakes repeatedly happens again?

January 27th 2020

Your welcome.

According to the court records obtained by CBS Miami, the incident occurred on July 7 after the victim left the airport, but did not report it until Saturday. According to the records, the victim and Judkins came to South Florida “as friends,” but after the incident she stayed with him in Fort Lauderdale for five days and celebrated her birthday.

More details emerge in Quinshon Judkins battery case after release from jail

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Cleveland Browns rookie running back Quinshon Judkins landed in jail late Saturday evening. Judkins has left the jail cell. But with new details emerging.

Fort Lauderdale police took Judkins into custody for misdemeanor battery/domestic violence. CBS News in Miami added new context after obtaining court records Sunday.

“During his hearing, the judge found probable cause and ordered Judkins not to be in contact with the victim, no firearm access, and set his bond to $2,500,” the records revealed.

Judkins spent his evening at Broward County main jail, per the police report. He then appeared in bond court on Sunday. CBS Miami witnessed him walk out of jail after the bond hearing.

Browns’ Quinshon Judkins incident occurred few days before arrest

The incident took place a few days before the 2025 NFL Draft pick got handcuffed, per the report.

“The alleged incident happened on July 7 after the victim had left the airport but did not report it until Saturday, according to records revealed during Judkins’ bond court hearing,” CBS Miami shared.

Judkins spent time with a person described as a “friend” during his South Florida visit. The female friend spent as many as five days with the former Ohio State football running back. Including celebrating her birthday.

But Fort Lauderdale police responded to a “delayed battery” Saturday around 9 a.m. ET.

“Officers spoke with the victim and determined a battery had occurred during their preliminary investigation,” CBS Miami shared as part of the FLPD report.

The Browns became aware of Judkins’ arrest late Saturday night. But opted to not provide comment into the matter. Cleveland Plain-Dealer Browns insider Mary Kay Kabot reports that the NFL will launch its investigation as part of the league’s Personal Conduct Policy.

” Judkins faces a possible suspension of up to six games for a first violation,” Kabot wrote Sunday.

Judkins emerged as one of two second round selections for the Browns. He landed 36th overall after leading the Buckeyes to the 2024 season national title.

Lol... oof.

I guess a team isn't allowed to go from Watson to no-character-concerns in one go... and we gotta step down gradually. (this is sarcasm).


I don't want to sound like a Berry defender right now, but did Judkins come in w/ character concerns? Honest question because I didn't hear any but I also don't follow college football at all.

j/c

I'm wondering what "character concerns " Judkins had shown before the draft? I keep seeing it mentioned in this thread but am not aware of any such concerns.

There’re hundreds of studies on this subject but the more recent ones are more focused on potential risk factors like being born in a family with a history of DV, alcohol, drugs, mental illness, PTSD, ADAH or similar and those with a low self esteem.

Those with a combination of two or more of these factors are also more likely to in some stage of their life being involved in some sort of DV.

It’s very rare that a sexual relationship goes from zero abuse to a physical confrontation in one motion.

It often starts with a subtle verbal abuse and from there it escalates until the aggressor in the end becomes physical violent. These conclusions aren’t ground breaking or news for people who has a or had a relationship. It most of the time follows a certain pattern and those with knowledge and experience can often with a little bit of insight in the relationship see if there’re any risk factors involved and what to expect if the couple doesn’t get any help. In most families the parents, siblings or close friends often reacts if something is suspicious.

Character concern isn’t always what the person has done in the past, it could be potential risk factors and what kind of background they have.

Some raise from the ashes no matter what like LeBron or Nick Chubb. They’re often called asphalt flowers because they make sure they grow to their potential and they stay mentally healthy no matter challenges. Others don’t, like DSW.

The only thing a sport organization can do is to see if there’re any risk factors involved.

Check family background. In most cases involving young people you can almost directly recognize the asphalt flowers. They’re ambitious. They work hard without taking short cuts or use excuses. They often take care of their parents, siblings or family members. They follow the law, hardly ever you see more than speeding and parking tickets. They don’t smoke or do drugs. They often work extra to help their economy. They don’t have to be geniuses but they are smart enough to graduate and finally they often find long term friends and a serious relationship early in their life.

There’re off course exceptions and those who don’t follow the usual script but the vast majority tick most of the boxes mentioned above.

You do realize that the majority of NFL players and most of the best players were raised on poverty surrounded by gangs, drugs, crime and abuse, correct? Are you suggesting Judkins hasn't worked hard? What on your list was Judkins guilty of in his past? Man, I had no idea you were that slanted against people unlike yourself.

So to sum it up you have nothing in Judkins past to indicate there should have been "character concerns" about him when he was drafted.

I doubt that but I have no facts to base that doubt on.

Neither do I. I said Berry and crew might need to dig deeper, but maybe they. This could be a one time deal.

I find it a bit odd the assault took place at or near the airport but the women stuck it out another 5 days while on vacation with the guy before reporting. I saw no report of her being kidnapped or held hostage.

Either you didn’t read what I wrote properly or, what’s more likely, you didn’t understand the context of what the text said.

I wrote “they work hard without taking short cuts or making excuses” as one of the characteristic among many others.
Go back and read again without prejudice and then try to understand what’s cause and consequences.

The key part of the text is risk factors.

Being raised in poverty is of course harder than being born with silver spoon in your mouth, that goes without saying. Young children who’re used to domestic violence has often later in life problems with setting boundaries, handling anger or aggressions and deal with conflicts. That’s of course not their faults, just the consequences of living with domestic violent in their home when they were young. That’s a risk factor, combined it with alcohol, drugs, mental illness, PTSD or other factors and it’s a dangerous mix.

Look at Richard Sherman.

Behind an intelligent fasad you had mental illness, alcohol and maybe drugs. Not even the smartest can escape their past and characteristics they’re born with. Richard had thankfully good friends and a loving family, that was probably his saving.

This text isn’t about judging Judkins, that’s a case for the police the court system, but what we do know is that he’s accused of DV.
Pure statistic data says that the probability of involvement of several risk factors is very high when the police is getting involved. If that’s the case then a competent NFL organization could have a had good chance to spottet it with a little bit of serious background checks.

Some organizations has in fact a pretty decent record of avoiding potential trouble makers, and are very proud of how the work with this sensitive subject.
Other organizations work differently and prioritize win at all costs with the consequences of sometimes signing trouble makers and players with high risk factors.
Different ideologies. Different leadership’s. Different outcomes.


You need to read new scientific literature about women being abused by dominant and violent men.

Without going in to specifics there’re factors why women hesitate, some don’t even understand they have been part of DV and some are just frightened. Maybe the woman is a lier but statistically more than 90% of women who reports to the police has been part of some sort of DV.

Love and/or traumatizing experiences is often the biggest factor why women need time before understand what they have gone through.

I’m also a victim of poor understanding what domestic violence means and what it can do to the weaker part in a relationship.
It was only when my daughter was raped and involved in DV that I took time to read scientific literature and listen to those with real knowledge and experience.

It was eye opener that ruffled many of my thoughts and opinions. It’s hard to take onboard that I in the past was probably part of the problem.

I find that odd, too. He’s an NFL draft pick, gonna have a couple million soon, maybe a lot more down the road. I’m not trying to say he’s not guilty but let’s face it, gold-diggers are everywhere. Maybe after the “vacation” ended, she saw that he didn’t consider her in his “long term plans” and decided to get what she could get.

Or maybe he’s an idiot and really did punch in her in the face. Let’s wait for the facts to come out. If they ever do.