It's been a while since we've agreed on anything... so there's that.
I do hope that you and the handful of others we've both mentioned before decide to start posting substantive discussion again vs whatever this is.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
First and foremost I want to say that I have great sympathy for those involved. These school shootings are very scary to me especially because my wife is a teacher. I have no answers to these type of things. I don’t know if anyone does.
Now might not be the time but it will come soon that we need to look at these shooters as a country. There has been a recent pattern that I find to and the fact that those in the media have been skirting around. That conversation can’t be because the last 6 or so shootings have been done by a certain community doesn’t make that whole community responsible. Also, we should not excuse those in the community of responsibility that may be radicalizing some of it’s members.
It’s included with public schools but private schools had to apply and jump through hoops. My wife was on the school commission and actually was the one who applied for it for our kids’ school. I think it may be covered as part of tuition now because I know the initial grant lasted for one year per school.
I emphasize that because today’s shooting was at such a school. I’m not sure how Minnesota operates on that front.
The sad thing is that private schools should get all the same protections as public. Those parents pay the same taxes as do the parents of those kids going to public school.
Private schools are doing public schools a big favor. If all the students going to private schools all of a sudden started going to public schools, those schools would be swamped.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
Just a comment that will upset some, and I really don't mean to irritate people, but I'll say what some might not.
We have gun laws that do and should prevent the sale of guns to many groups of people and one is them to people who are mentally ill.
My feeling is all trans people are mentally ill. I don't mean that is a bad way or saying that with malice, but there is certainly something wrong with those people.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
My feeling is all trans people are mentally ill. I don't mean that is a bad way or saying that with malice, but there is certainly something wrong with those people.
Spoken with the assurance of someone who has never met or known anyone fitting this description.
It's your prerogative to have these opinions, but If you've never had someone in your life who is going through something like this, you speak the words of the ignorant.
I really don't mean to irritate people, but I'll say what some might not.
I know/have known 4 transfolk.
In all 4 cases, they are living the best years of their lives after transition... and they were able to do it through strength of character, commitment to who they truly were, and the unwavering support of those who know and love them.
If you haven't ever known someone like this,you don't know what you're talking about.
..and if you speak from a platform of total ignorance, you should at least have the character to acknowledge such in you opening statement. That would be something I could actually respect. Instead, you speak of "feelings." That tells us all that you don't have facts.
I speak from actual life experience.
These 4 people have better mental health now than when they they were pre-transition... and not one of them has written an unhinged manifesto, taken up arms, and sprayed bullets into a public place.
Sigmund Freud once famously said: "Sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar." And sometimes, crazy is just crazy.
Those of us who can think critically can keep both thoughts in our heads at the same time, without conflating them. Can you be one of those, as well?
Recognized by whom? Sometimes one must dismiss the "feelings" of people who know little or nothing about things as just that. Nothing more than feelings.
And BTW- we also have a lack of laws that would prevent people such as this from legally buying guns. Many refer to it as "the gun show loophole". Any private citizen can sell a gun to any other person with no I.D. presented, no background check and no safeguards. The person could have just been released from prison yesterday for all they know.
I suppose I should rephrase that. The person purchasing the weapon isn't buying it legally. Nobody with a felony conviction can legally purchase a firearm. The person selling them the weapon can sell it to them legally if they have plausible deniability.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Well yes your old white guy opinion is out of date and at least a couple decades out of touch. But there your opinions to hold onto and if you choose not to educate yourself thats fine. I mean you can probably find someone "medical" somewhere that agrees with you? I mean there are Hollacaust deniers out there. Alex Jones and others denied Sandy Hook. RFK dont believe in vaccination. Knock yourself out ..... A simple cut n paste ......
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+10 The scientific consensus is that being transgender is not a mental disorder. However, transgender and gender diverse people experience higher rates of mental health challenges like depression, anxiety, and suicidality compared to the cisgender population, which is primarily attributed to the negative impacts of societal stigma, discrimination, and marginalization, as explained by the Minority Stress Model. Recent umbrella reviews highlight consistent evidence of worse mental health outcomes and point to gaps in research on the well-being of transgender and gender-diverse individuals. Key Scientific Opinions & Findings Not a Mental Disorder: Leading organizations and scientific literature clarify that gender diversity itself is not a mental health problem. Minority Stress Model: The prevailing explanation for elevated mental health issues among transgender people is the Minority Stress Model. This model suggests that chronic stress from stigma, prejudice, and discrimination faced by transgender individuals contributes to poor mental health outcomes. Mental Health Challenges: Transgender and gender-diverse (TGD) individuals show higher prevalence rates of: Depression and anxiety Suicidal ideation and behavior Other conditions like PTSD, schizophrenia, and substance use disorders
The more things change the more they stay the same.
People that consider themselves trans need help not acceptance. They are mentally ill and are sexually perverse. There are only two genders male and female. To deny that is to deny real science.
"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money." Margarat Thatcher
No, gender identity is not a mental illness; the distress that some transgender people experience from their gender identity not aligning with their assigned sex at birth is called gender dysphoria. Major health organizations have moved away from classifying being transgender as a mental disorder, and the purpose of the gender dysphoria diagnosis in the DSM-5 is to facilitate access to medical care, not to pathologize identity. Understanding the distinction:
Gender identity: is a person's internal sense of being male, female, both, or neither.
Gender dysphoria: is the psychological distress caused by the incongruence between a person's experienced gender and the gender they were assigned at birth. Being transgender: is not a mental illness or a disorder.
Why gender dysphoria is a diagnosis, not a mental illness:
Purpose of the diagnosis: The inclusion of gender dysphoria in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5) is to provide a framework for understanding and treating the distress associated with gender incongruence, ensuring that individuals can receive necessary medical care like hormone therapy or surgery.
Focus on distress: The diagnosis is on the distress or impairment caused by the incongruence, not on the gender identity itself. International shifts: The World Health Organization (WHO) reclassified the condition, removing it from the list of mental and behavioral disorders to the chapter on sexual health to reflect current knowledge that gender-diverse identities are not mental illnesses. Societal factors: The distress experienced by some transgender people can be linked to societal stigma, discrimination, and marginalization, in addition to the incongruence between their gender and assigned sex.
Gender dysphoria - NHS They do this by changing the way they look and behave. Some people with gender dysphoria, but not all, may want to use hormones an... NHS
What is gender dysphoria, and is it a mental disorder? - CNN Jul 19, 2023 — Is gender dysphoria a mental disorder? Because gender dysphoria is included in the American Psychiatric Association's ... CNN Gender Dysphoria Diagnosis - American Psychiatric Association However, controversy continued with advocates and some psychiatrists pointing to ways in which this diagnostic category pathologiz... American Psychiatric Association ============================================================================================================
Well, that took about 3 seconds to search.,, You could have done this like I did, and then you wouldn't have posted something so damn wrong.,
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“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot
When you leave out who a person is and try to act as though that doesn't matter we end up with what you claim answers the question.
When you leave one critical part of an equation out of the formula you will never come up with the correct answer.
I don't leave out anything. All people are xx or xy. That is science. To deny those facts are to live in pretend land like transies.
Not for nothing, but some people are XXY, some people are XYY and some people are just X. I don’t really think that should be the focus on this thread though.
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When you leave out who a person is and try to act as though that doesn't matter we end up with what you claim answers the question.
When you leave one critical part of an equation out of the formula you will never come up with the correct answer.
I don't leave out anything. All people are xx or xy. That is science. To deny those facts are to live in pretend land like transies.
Not for nothing, but some people are XXY, some people are XYY and some people are just X. I don’t really think that should be the focus on this thread though.
You haven't been following the bouncing ball. That's the right wings focus right now. To create yet another enemy. Or should I say give more focus to people they have already made an enemy of.
It's been their brand for some time now.
Pseudoscience is not science but that seems to be yet another theme they're focused on now.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
People that consider themselves trans need help not acceptance. They are mentally ill and are sexually perverse. There are only two genders male and female. To deny that is to deny real science.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
People that consider themselves trans need help not acceptance. They are mentally ill and are sexually perverse. There are only two genders male and female. To deny that is to deny real science.
Clearly, some folks think they know more than trained professionals.... Seems to be the theme of damn near all MAGA types.
No, being transgender is not considered a mental illness . In fact, the World Health Organization (WHO) and the American Psychiatric Association (APA) have both revised their classifications to reflect this understanding.
WHO: The World Health Organization no longer classifies being transgender as a mental disorder in its International Classification of Diseases (ICD-11). Instead, it uses the term "gender incongruence" and places it in a chapter on sexual health, recognizing that classifying it as a mental disorder caused significant stigma. APA: The American Psychiatric Association (APA) also doesn't consider being transgender a mental illness. The DSM-5-TR, their diagnostic manual, includes a diagnosis of "gender dysphoria," which refers to the distress some transgender individuals experience due to the incongruence between their assigned sex at birth and their gender identity. It is important to note that gender dysphoria is a diagnosis for the distress, not the gender identity itself.
In essence, major medical and psychological organizations acknowledge that being transgender is a matter of gender identity and not a mental disorder.
Who cares what the WHO has to say. They miss informed everyone about covid and should have no say what we do in the US. Those people are sick and need help. It is a mental illness that has caused people to be sexual deviants.
"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money." Margarat Thatcher
Dr. Dawg has spoken. His vast medical expertise gives him the education and knowledge that should supersede both the WHO and The American Psychiatric Association. Evidence and proof mean nothing to him. Trump University it appears has taught him everything he needs to know.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Who cares what the WHO has to say. They miss informed everyone about covid and should have no say what we do in the US. Those people are sick and need help. It is a mental illness that has caused people to be sexual deviants.
What the hell are you speaking of... Misinformed about Covid. I have family that DIED from that stuff... What are you saying, who misinformed us. I wanna know and I want FACTS, not this crap that RFK Jr is spewing.
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.” Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe." Damanshot
Who cares what the WHO has to say. They miss informed everyone about covid and should have no say what we do in the US. Those people are sick and need help. It is a mental illness that has caused people to be sexual deviants.
What the hell are you speaking of... Misinformed about Covid. I have family that DIED from that stuff... What are you saying, who misinformed us. I wanna know and I want FACTS, not this crap that RFK Jr is spewing.
I trust RFK Jr over any of the lies spread since covid. I don't think any families were immune to people dying of covid. The political fighting over how to treat covid was terrible. I have family members that are in the medical field and found success with some patients with certain treatments then because a certain political figure would announce some success found in that treatment and then the federal government would say that treatment does not work and not allow hospitals to use that treatment on their patients. That was wrong. Also, people would have covid and die in a car accident but since they had covid they would count it as a covid death because the federal government would send hospitals more money. Bottom line is the country should have never locked down /shutdown. People should have been treated. I know when I caught covid the DR told me good luck when I asked what treatments were next. Once I survived the two week period they then treated the severe cough. At that time, I stopped trusting the medical field and knew the vaccines were useless. Good luck is all they had. Actually, that is all they were allowed to do. Dr Fauci is a criminal in my view and should be held accountable for many deaths that could have been prevented. The other criminals were the governors that put covid patients in nursing homes. They are murders plain and simple. I suppose that is not enough evidence because you trust those that made the problem worse.
"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money." Margarat Thatcher
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