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Where was everyone when all of this was being said??
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*sigh* I miss Johnny Carson. I miss him also, but Carson was Brutal on politicians, the times were much different during Carsons years. I wouldn't call it brutal, but I get your point. Two differences. Late night comedians kept it a 2 way street and they didn't take themselves seriously. There is a difference between political humor and political commentary. Peen, I tried to say something similar to the last part of your response here, but I think you put it much more clearly. While I don't care much for the optics of a president sending in his FCC chair like a hired thug because it presents a slippery slope for subsequent leaders to follow... as well as (threat of) regulation as the avenue of injecting more decency into media being more of a reflection of where we are vs a fix... it's hard for me to argue against accountability (in any form). I just worry that this is being done selectively... enforcing accountability in a hypocritical manner isn't accountability at all.
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I doubt some of what you think in this post.
Maybe something was said to the FCC, but in the end, it was 250 ABC affiliates pulling the show from their broadcast that prompted ABC to suspend operations. Ratings were low before....take away 250 viewing stations spells doom. In the end? FCC's Brendan Carr made this comment at about 1:30 P.M..... “We can do this the easy way or the hard way,” It was after that before any of these affiliates announced they would no longer air Kimmel. ABC, Nexstar and Sinclair all have major decisions soon coming before the FCC. For people that can't see what went on here it's because they don't want to see it.
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There is a difference between political humor and political commentary. Do you mean celebrities have different rights to say different things depending on whether they are on a late night show or FOX News? That's not what it says about free speech in the constitution.
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For all of those pointing out "but this democratic politician said this and that democratic politician said that."
None of them were the head of the FCC who had the direct power over their FCC licenses to broadcast and approving upcoming network deals to broadcast. All at a time when both the two largest affiliate groups as well as the network itself has major rulings coming up soon before the FCC.
The very head of the FCC made the direct threat that "We can do this the easy way or we can do this the hard way."
But please, do go on.
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2 minutes verifying this will show anyone that has any interest in real news and facts - that this is [1] Not accurate [2] It is not "fact checked" as claimed on the persons post. [3] Funny to see an attempt to claim a fact check on a lie and not funny that it's the same poster re-posting misinfotmation again.
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J/C Trump's top media regulator says 'I don't think this is the last shoe to drop'. Brendan Carr Targets ‘The View’ As FCC Chairman Continues Regulatory Threats In Aftermath Of Jimmy Kimmel’s Suspension Claiming that the model “hasn’t worked for a long time,” Trump took aim at Stephen Colbert, whose late-night show was canceled in July, before alleging that “no-talent” Kimmel and “Tonight Show” host Jimmy Fallon would be the next to go. “Colbert has no talent,” Trump said. “I mean, I could take anybody here, I could go outside on the beautiful streets and pick a couple of people that would do just as well or better. They got higher ratings than he did. He’s got no talent.” He added: “Fallon has no talent. Kimmel has no talent. They’re next. They’re going to be going. I hear they are going to be going. I don’t know, but I would imagine, because Colbert has better ratings than Kimmel or Fallon.” https://sg.news.yahoo.com/trump-said-kimmel-going-just-203346105.htmlYeah, this was all just a happy accident.
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For all of those pointing out "but this democratic politician said this and that democratic politician said that."
None of them were the head of the FCC who had the direct power over their FCC licenses to broadcast and approving upcoming network deals to broadcast. All at a time when both the two largest affiliate groups as well as the network itself has major rulings coming up soon before the FCC.
The very head of the FCC made the direct threat that "We can do this the easy way or we can do this the hard way."
But please, do go on. Meh - It's the same but different. Is that your argument? It's the same but this time it was the head of the FCC that made a public statement? ... Sure I sort of get it. But I think it's a bit disingenuous to think that this isn't another case of 'both sides have threatened this crap' .... Not sure what Colbert lost his job for. Not sure if others will lose jobs/license. I agree Trump sating publicly that ABC and others should lose their license it concerning. But. . . what the Dems have said and done in the past is not "nothing" ... With reference to the post above about FB - Biden's admin (and FBI) did put pressure on them / warn them and other SM regarding some Covid info and some Hunter Biden laptop stuff. Again - not nothing but also not "censor Anybody". jmo
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Only one agency holds the power over future deals and licensing on broadcasting. That the FCC.
My post isn't debatable in that regard. Saying it and having the power to act on it are two totally different things. Is that the point you're trying to debate here?
That people who have no power over broadcasting making comments about this verses the people who hold all the power over broadcasting making the threat that "We can do this the easy way or we can do this the hard way" is the same thing?
It's most certainly not.
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*sigh* I miss Johnny Carson. I miss him also, but Carson was Brutal on politicians, the times were much different during Carsons years. I wouldn't call it brutal, but I get your point. Two differences. Late night comedians kept it a 2 way street and they didn't take themselves seriously. There is a difference between political humor and political commentary. Peen, I tried to say something similar to the last part of your response here, but I think you put it much more clearly. While I don't care much for the optics of a president sending in his FCC chair like a hired thug because it presents a slippery slope for subsequent leaders to follow... as well as (threat of) regulation as the avenue of injecting more decency into media being more of a reflection of where we are vs a fix... it's hard for me to argue against accountability (in any form). I just worry that this is being done selectively... enforcing accountability in a hypocritical manner isn't accountability at all. The "thug" was re-hired by Biden. The "thug" was confirmed unanimously by the senate. President Joe Biden announced his intent to renominate Brendan Carr for Commissioner of the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) in May 2023. The White House praised Carr's focus on expanding affordable, high-speed Internet access to all Americans and highlighted his leadership in the FCC's Connected Care Pilot Program, which supports telehealth services for low-income Americans and veterans. The administration emphasized Carr's extensive FCC experience, including his prior roles as general counsel and staffer before becoming commissioner.
The Senate unanimously confirmed Carr for the new term expiring June 30, 2028, in September 2023. Senator Maria Cantwell (D), Chair of the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation, applauded the confirmation, stressing the importance of a fully equipped FCC ready to prioritize consumer interests, broadband expansion, network security, innovative spectrum policies, and local news strengthening. The Biden administration's re-nomination and the Senate's confirmation reaffirmed confidence in Carr's regulatory leadership despite his conservative stances on some issues. Now, I've used the term "thug" above, not because I'm shaming you for using it, but because that is the way it appears, and I get it. The bottom line though is that Carr hasn't pulled any punches. BEFORE he was confirmed, he said he would take a more assertive and activist role for the FCC in regulating broadcast media content and holding media companies accountable. Especially concerning biased or irresponsible content. Maybe those on the left hoped that meant censoring Greg Gutfeld?? My opinion? This was a perfect storm brought on by the Kirk assassination and I don't think the results would have been different whether Trump egged him on or not... which, by the way, everyone is assuming happened and speaking as if it as fact... as usual. That said, I wish we had a president that would filter some of the bs that comes out of his mouth because it has a tendency to come back and bite him. The narrative now is "Trump said he was coming after Kimmel" when he said "I hear Jimmy Kimmel is next" after Colbert was cancelled. It was said in a lighthearted manner as he talked about how he has no skills as a comedian. Presidential? Not in the least. Are his comments the tail wagging the dog? I don't know, quite possibly. But it's funny how conjecture is readily accepted as fact where Trump is concerned. So, now we have an "activist" FCC director. I don't know if that's bad or good, but let's be honest, the sh*tshow we've watched in all forms of media is clearly out of hand. And like it or not, those granted licenses to use the airwaves have a certain set of criteria to follow that hasn't just been pulled out of thin air by Carr. As far as Kimmel is concerned. He's despicable and he's not really entertaining. He jumped on a soapbox every night to tell his narrow-minded, dwindling fanbase how terrible the president is. Definitely not much comedy there, more like someone spewing vitriol under the guise of comedy. He got what he deserved and I'm sure ABC was just itching for impetus, clearly seizing the moment when the Kirk comments aired. Which, by the way, many on the inside say he was reprimanded for and urged to walk back, for which he responded with a middle finger. The dude knew he lied. There was already a mountain of evidence saying the shooter wasn't MAGA when only a molehill was required to guide a normal human into second guessing that language. But "normal human" doesn't apply. He's driven by his hatred of Trump.
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