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No more Newsome celebrations. Beginning of dumping players with expiring contracts?


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Wowza. This is bizarre!

I don't think there's any doubt this makes the Jags better. By default, that makes our 1st round pick worse.


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Big contract for a guy that has under-performed the last two seasons. Hamstring injuries have plagued him.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/72413/tyson-campbell

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Originally Posted by FATE
....I don't think there's any doubt this makes the Jags better. By default, that makes our 1st round pick worse.

The Battle of Wits has begun. "If you're going to improve you're team, thus devaluing our future draft pick, we shall ensure we tank our own pick!" tongue

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Plus we gave them a better pick swap. crazy


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Is this AB thinking that we couldn't afford Newsome in the offseason?


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The tanking has begun. Wonder how Garrett feels. Wonder if he wishes he did not sign that new contract


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Ah right. We're now in double secret 4d chess territory.

We'll trade for a worse player, but...we'll pay him more AND give up a better draft pick. That will fool them!

Ward,Emerson,Newsome and Harden WAS a pretty good top 4 at corner. But hey, they were probably making our WR group feel bad at practice. Gotta pump up their confidence. This will do the trick.

Besides we're tanking for Arch Manning......wait, I meant Drew Allar......wait wait wait


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not shocked - Basically, we extended Newsome for 3 more years vs resigning Newsome for 90 mill.

Campbell is basically the same player in a ton of different ways from height, weight, age as Newsome plus, his contract is not terrible. *void years are not great.


Basically, we extended Newsome for 3 more years vs resigning Newsome for 90 mill.


worst case...
Tyson Campbell has a potential out in 2027, 3 YR, $46,968,941; $13,840,000 dead cap hit.



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With the Jaguars absorbing the remainder of Newsome’s salary, and with the amount that the Jaguars have already paid Campbell from his 2024 extension, the Browns are getting Campbell for 3 1/2 years at a discount for a comparable if not better player.

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/20...-tyson-campbell-and-a-swap-of-picks.html

In addition to the signing bonus, the Jaguars gave Campbell a restructure bonus of $12.4 million in 2025, as well as a workout bonus of $500,000. The Browns owe him the remainder of his $1.5 million base salary for this season, his $1.616 million base in 2026, and bases of $15 million in 2027 and $14.5 million in 2028. He’s also due $1 million a year in bonuses over the next three seasons, for a total of about $37 million for 3 1/3 years, less than half of the extension.


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Originally Posted by GraffZ06
We'll trade for a worse player

At times, Newsome looked quite capable, but horrible at other times. I didn't like his play and won't miss him. Can't say much about Campbell except I rread that he doesn't play well with his back to the ball. We'll see....


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Meh -

The finainces work - but that hardly matters. The only thing that matters is how Campbell plays in a Browns Uni. I'll wait and see and watch for myself. Newsome wasn't perfect - but he was pretty damn good. He had a pretty good game against Jefferson who I consider to be the best (or top 3) WR in the NFL the other week.

With a team with a chrocnically bad OL and a #1 WR who seems to constantly drop the ball in clutch situations ... this move very much uninspiring at the momement.


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Originally Posted by Milk Man

Upgrade at CB1? Yikes....Newsome is not a CB 1.

I thought we'd trade Newsome last year, so I'm not surprised by this. Not fully aware of Campbell's recent performance but Newsome was inconsistent to say the least and expected we'd let him walk this offseason if not for the trade.


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Newsome was probably going to be moved back to the slot next season when Emerson can return. He wants to play on the outside not in the slot. Not to mention he has talked about wanting 20 million a year for an extension. This locks up a starter at Cb or in the slot for a lot less money. Lets hope it ends up being a good trade for us.


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Seems on paper like a smart move.

Similar player in many ways, age wise, and talent for wage control over three years.

No real change on the field.

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I will have to wait and see Tyson Campbell play before I pass judgement. Going into the season I thought Newsome was average at best and very replaceable. With Emerson going down I think he has done a great job opposite Ward and was setting himself up for a nice pay day. He has played great in 2025. Probably the best he has played since he was drafted. If Campbell can play like Newsome is playing now and the Browns have him on the cheap for 2 more years it was a great trade. If Campbell does not play well and is a hole opposite Ward and the team is forced to spend capital on corner in the off season that they need to rebuild an offense it will be a bad trade. Even if Emerson resigns with the Browns 2026, he will not be 100% from an Achilles injury to be the corner opposite Ward.


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strange trade IMO. I understand the theory, but like everything else in our franchise, it's just random lol


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Originally Posted by slick
The tanking has begun. Wonder how Garrett feels. Wonder if he wishes he did not sign that new contract

That new contract gives him the right to more or less pick his landing spot. I think he is very happy he signed the deal.

I think he and his agent are already talking with Berry about what parameters the Browns want so they can start talking with other teams about a trade. Berry will talk. I don't think the Browns want this to become a media issue.

I'd say the odds of Garrett finishing this season with the Browns is about 50%, if that high. The odds of starting next season with the Browns about 15%.

We know that Garrett wanted out, and IMO it wasn't about money. The problem the Browns have with Garrett is it is hard to build a team around a defensive end, much like it is hard to build around a great LT.


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which contending teams need pass rush/DL help?


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I'm glad Breer mentioned scheme fit. It seemed like Newsome was better in zone. Seemingly, Campbell is the opposite.

We'll see.

What will also be interesting to see is how this now affects (if at all) more cap space to rollover into 2026 from Newsome's remaining salary that I'm guessing Jacksonville will be taking on, while still having to eat Campbell signing bonus over the years based on how they amortized it. All of this I am not sure of.


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Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie


I'm glad Breer mentioned scheme fit. It seemed like Newsome was better in zone. Seemingly, Campbell is the opposite.

We'll see.

What will also be interesting to see is how this now affects (if at all) more cap space to rollover into 2026 from Newsome's remaining salary that I'm guessing Jacksonville will be taking on, while still having to eat Campbell signing bonus over the years based on how they amortized it. All of this I am not sure of.



So, if correct, $8.2MM to potentially roll over from the difference of Newsome and Campbell's 2025 dollars into 2026???


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Big contract for a guy that has under-performed the last two seasons. Hamstring injuries have plagued him.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/72413/tyson-campbell

Supposedly there was also a scheme change that he didn't fit so well.


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I have to say I'm in total shock!

Not because of the trade but unless I missed it somewhere thus far nobody has tried to place the blame for this on Stefanski! saywhat


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Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie


I'm glad Breer mentioned scheme fit. It seemed like Newsome was better in zone. Seemingly, Campbell is the opposite.

We'll see.

Is Bert just talking out his tuchus?




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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
I have to say I'm in total shock!

Not because of the trade but unless I missed it somewhere thus far nobody has tried to place the blame for this on Stefanski! saywhat
Twice now with the same comment that adds .... nothing.


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Still a bit miffed I see. naughtydevil

He gets blamed for everything else. I mean you know, he has equal say on everything, right? I mean he must have agreed on this trade since they all work together in a consensus, right?

Once you weave a fable don't be surprised when later it comes back up. I didn't create the fable to begin with. Just pointing out the obvious frivolity of it.


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Clearly a financial move. They did not want another contract at $20 m plus a signing bonus.

They got a similar player under control at $13 m.

No real difference on the field both have strengths and weaknesses.

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Jags supposedly switched defensive coordinator/scheme this off-season. They now play more zone coverage.

Fun fact: this is the third Jax DC in as many seasons.

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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Still a bit miffed I see. naughtydevil
LOL ... You are woefully wrong. I'm just pointing out you now have 3 posts trying to start a fight where absolutely none existed. That is called trolling.


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Well that remains to be seen. Yes the $$$ works - but if the player ends up being not good as the guy we shipped out, it just creates another hole. If he ends up playing as well or better - then it was an excellent move.

We got rid of Joe Hadden because of $$$ - he then played another 5 seasons in Pitsburgh at a pretty good level with many on this board bemoaning our decision.

And - just to highlight - we have a lot of posters who continually espouse the salary cap being a non factor even after we signed DW. Decisions like this highlight exactly how and where the salary cap comes into the decision making process.


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So did you not claim that Stefanksi had equal say with Haslam? That his only boss is Haslam? That he has equal responsibility in the decision making? That Haslam listens to both Stefanski and Berry equally? I'm pointing out the very things that were posted and you don't like it. But hey, blame me for that if it makes you feel any better. You sure as hell don't have any other defense for it. Shoot the messenger is a tactic that's worked out pretty well before.


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Decisions like this is how salary cap can remain (to an extent) not a factor despite the Watson contract. It is more of a gamble, though... given the guy we got is coming off of a down year.


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They had to feel that they did not want to pay Newsome his FA rate.

It remains to see how this guy plays.

I expect Njoku next. They need money and draft picks. It is not about the current roster IMO.

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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
So did you not claim that Stefanksi had equal say with Haslam? That his only boss is Haslam? That he has equal responsibility in the decision making? That Haslam listens to both Stefanski and Berry equally? I'm pointing out the very things that were posted and you don't like it. But hey, blame me for that if it makes you feel any better. You sure as hell don't have any other defense for it. Shoot the messenger is a tactic that's worked out pretty well before.

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Agree - something of a gamble, and I do not hate the idea/plan. I haven't ever heard of the guy till today... I'll wait and see how he plays.

Bone - agree. Also read somwhere someone speculating MG is a possibility this year and maybe only 30% chance of being on the team next year.


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