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They have to take a QB in Rd 1 next year IMO. I just don't know how a pro QB talent evaluator looks at either of them at this point and is like "...maaaaybe". They're both a long way off. And as for Sanders, I don't think he'll ever get there. He doesn't have the head set. I suspect he'll have some great moments over the next several games. But I think he'll look like he did against the 49ers more than not. He's a D+ to C+ QB. Every 3rd game or so he'll look like an A-. But he won't elevate his teammates. And I like Gabriel but I think his ceiling is apparent.
We unfortunately have to make decisive decisions pretty quickly right now. I suspect that we'll just have to go with the limited evidence in front of us at year's end and I think it'll tell us to go get another guy and make sure he's a good one.
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I think Mendoza has a huge opportunity Saturday night. Look good vs Ohio and his draft stock will shoot up to #1 overall pick quickly. I am going to watch his performance vs what has been the top defense in college football in 2025. I think right now he nothing really separates him, Simpson, and Moore. Simpson is also going up against a really good college defense Saturday so that will be fun to watch also. All 3 QBs should be in the playoffs and play in pressure packed games which should add some clarity to the drafts peaking order.
I do think some of the QB names that were talked about before the season will become hot topics again after the season. Allar, Beak, Nussmeier, and Kubinec. Drake Maye was on a North Carolina team that was preseason top 10 his Senior year and limped to a disappointing 8-5 record in a weak ACC. He stayed a 1st round prospect and has performed better in the NFL than college. I do not think NFL scouts look at prospects with the same glasses we do. They look at intangibles and over all ability and not the team success we see in QBs. Not all but I think 1 or more of these names may work back into the conversation by April. I'm actually way more interested in college games this weekend for this very reason. I think our guy is playing out there somewhere this saturday.
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That is all I hope for.
Once the draft order is known. That is when I am going to do a deep dive into film study on the top five guys.
I feel pretty good about Moore, Mendoza and Simpson. All three show good qualities.
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This is referring to Dante Moore, who apparently was born in East Cleveland and grew up in Elyria.
I did not know this.
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This is referring to Dante Moore, who apparently was born in survived East Cleveland and grew up in Elyria.  I did not know this. He's quite young but cool under pressure. Would be thrilled to have the Browns draft him barring any last minute Phil Knight Brinks trucks.
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I just watched a video breakdown on Moore.
The good thing is his throwing motion. Quick release and the ability to throw off platform. He can throw accurately while moving.
He handles pressure well and will make throws under pressure. He is accurate to most parts of the field. However, he misses layups at times and can be inconsistent.
His arm strength is average but he can make the deep throws.
He is not fast. He does hold the ball with two hands when under pressure and can move in the pocket. In some ways he looks like Shedeur.
I see some good things but he does not overwhelm me. I don't see anything exceptional. He is a solid overall QB.
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Arch is returning to school. Sellers is also returning.
Moore has not yet decided. It sounds like Simpson is entering the draft.
So, Mendoza, Moore, Simpson will most likely be first round selections.
My question is are any of them all that different from Shedeur?
None IMO look elite. All have qualities. None jump off the screen.
I don't see a Josh Allen, Mahomes, Stafford, Herbert.
I see them more in the league of Jared Goff. That can be good enough but not elite.
I am beginning to think the Browns may run with Shedeur.
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I just hope we don't reach for a QB. After Mendoza there really isn't anyone that stands out. This QB class was predicted to be good and deep but it's kind of shaping up to be like last year. I know we need a QB badly the contending teams all have a very good one so that tells the story. I'm torn between sticking it out with the 3 guys we have now for next season and drafting for our OL and WR groups or drafting a QB high with our 1st #1. Unless we get the #1 pick Mendoza will most certainly be gone. I would hate to reach for a guy we really aren't excited about. Maybe we could get one in the 2nd round that was once predicted to be a solid 1st rounder but had an off year. Lots of scenarios to contemplate. Maybe we can find our Jaxson Dart in April.
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Most people didn't see Mahomes as being Mahomes until he became Mahomes. Mitchell Trubisky was drafted as the top QB prospect at #2. Mahomes wasn't drafted until #12 and watson at #14.
It too was considered a weak QB class and there were holes and question marks in all of those QB's drafted.
I have no idea whether there is a Mahomes type QB in this draft. I have no idea if it will end up being Mendoza if there is one. But in reality I don't think anyone else does either until it all plays out.
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Both Mahomes and Lamar were first round picks. 10th and 32.
Both of them had parts of their game that were elite. Mahomes like Allen were guys that needed work. Both forced throws and turned it over. They both had elite arms and mobility. They were developed by their teams.
Lamar of course had elite movement but needed lots of work on throwing.
I am not passing judgement yet. Just observations.
When I watch the top three in this coming class and compare them to Shedeur. I don't see a big gap in talent.
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We'll see if the NFL does. Every NFL team passed on Sanders four times and some of them five times. Just something for you to consider. I'm willing to wager that none of these three QB's will be left on the draft board going into round five in the draft. I'll bet none of the three are left on the board going into round 4. Which would mean I'm willing to wager that the NFL sees them as being better prospects than they did Sanders.
I don't get all of this Sanders love based on one good game and three stinkers. Maybe it's that Browns fans are so desperate for a QB that just a flash in the pan in one game is enough to make them go crazy for a QB. I have no idea.
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Shedeur?
His story is different. Before the draft many analysts had him as a first rounder.
I don't know the whole story. Maybe he turned teams off for any number of reasons. In the end he was passed over.
I over that draft and see him as he is now. Comparing him to the top three. Like I said I don't see a big gap.
I cannot say I am overboard on any of them.
The guy I like is John Mateer. I see real potential in him. He is a more dynamic athlete than the four guys mentioned. Faster. Better arm. Better runner. Super tough hard nosed player who teammates worship. He played most of this year hurt. Had a broken thumb on his throwing hand and came back after surgery in two weeks. His numbers suffered.
I don't care what others think of him or where he gets drafted.
I think he will be really good.
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