DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum How Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders compare

Some food for thought, and opinions

https://www.cleveland.com/browns/20...rs-of-5-pro-bowl-qbs-by-the-numbers.html

Really interesting.

I think the big plays are what stick in the memory. Also can open up the defense a little ...

End of the day I suspect it'll be an open competition next preseason, or we've landed a top pick.

True. But another factor is that Gabriel faced significantly tougher defenses.

"DW a player with back to back Achilles tears. He has been below average when he has played which is significant because he has played in only 19 games "

Can someone do the math? How much he got paid per game? How much he got paid per win?

Don't. You will only cause yourself undue pain.

$250 Mill - 9 wins to date.

$27.8 Mil per win at time of going to press.

Thanks

No wonder he didn't want to play. The more he wins, the less he makes per win.

Now that's genius. Thinking like that helped us win the cold war against the USSR.

Oh he might get more. I read somewhere Berry needs to re-jig his contract... I don't know it but would assume that comes at some sort of cost.

Watching the games there really was no comparison. Gabriel would not or more than likely could not throw the ball down field. He was too short to see the field, and he does not have an NFL caliber arm. Sanders has many things in his game he needs to improve and work on but he has better size, better arm talent, and ability to make big plays. He just holds the ball too long at times. He showed he can make quick reads at times so is he confused by some defenses or wants to make the big play every time. I do not know. He also just makes a few really bad decisions every game. Either way he has a chance depending on how hard he works. Gabriel will be a good coach someday.

It's odd how people make those claims while it was clear from his college tapes that those things are false.

My Opinion

Both young QB's played better than most people give them credit for. Now if you throw in the Offensive line they had to play behind, and our lack of NFL quality WR's and they look even better. It's still way to early to be writing either QB off, OR to be handing either the starting job. They both have their strengths and weakness but unless we improve the team around them, and they continue to learn and grow (hopefully) neither will be the answer, but it's just way to early to write either guy off, or to crown either one as our franchise QB.

The Browns have had a difficult time building a team around a starting QB they felt could be their future franchise guy.

Now the Browns have two unproven rookies with different skill sets and playing styles.

On top of that, who knows who will be the OC and HC that will be the ones to build a team around one of them. There is no way they can build a team around two unproven rookies.

Having to have a QB competition between two young QB's to decide who to build around will be a very difficult task.

I honestly feel the best way to approach this, and ofc this is not knowing the coaching situation yet.

Is to focus on Watson as the starter being he has the most experience and see what they have.

If they draft a QB, I honestly don't know if I can watch another season of a rookie QB and his learning mistakes. That is if he wins the job.

I truly hope whoever gets the starting QB job, the coaches will build around his strengths in order for him to be and make the team have a successful season.

As we all know, improving the OL and WR position is a top priority.

Although if Caleb Downs is sitting there.... Well ? LOL

Agreed wholeheartedly.

So to me it makes sense to build OL and WR in the off-season. Don't try to go QB unless one of those 2 top guys falls to us at 6. We could do a lot of good with a draft half as good as last year's. We could also drop down to 12-18 and have an extra 1st next year.

The big problem I have is Berry has a horrible track record of OL. And WR acquisition.

If either SS or Gabriel make it as a solid NFL QB, 2027 season would be a potential break out year.

Ship Gabriel at the first opportunity. Sanders is worth further evaluation.