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When did I say he could "process some things but not others"?


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So you are saying that he didn't have to process moving his body to the left in order to face his target between the first shot and the last two shots? That he didn't have to understand and process that his target was no longer in front of him but beside him in order to do that? Come on man stop deflecting.


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You said that I said he could "process some things but not others"?

Now I'm the one deflecting?


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In that "one second" he managed to process turning his body to the left towards the driver who was at his side, no longer in front of him, in order to take those second and third shots. He stopped firing between the first and second shot then resumed firing. It seems you feel he can process turning his entire body towards his intended target while lacking the ability to determine that target was no longer a threat.

I didn't need a sleuth or crime dramas to tell me what I saw with my own eyes. You claim that he could process some things but not others. Then claim it's someone else who needs to apply common sense?

Please try to focus this time. You seem to be having difficulty with that today.


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So, just say you lied instead of ignoring the question.

It's a lot easier, I'm sure your mom told you that in kindergarten.


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You do understand that you can say things without using those exact words don't you? Because that's what you're doing here and you're fully aware of it.

Are you saying a man can turn his body in a totally different direction and resume firing his weapon by not processing what's going on around him? Because that is most certainly your assertion here and trying to flip the script on me doesn't change any of that.

My dad taught me that. That leaving our parts of the truth and refusing address the truth is also a lie.


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We can talk about all that as soon as you admit you lied.

Your choice though.


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Here is what I'll admit. There is the figurative "I'm saying" then there is the literal "I'm saying". We both know the difference between the two. You're pretending not to in order to play "gotchya".

You can admit that and move on or you can keep lying about it. Your choice though.


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Ahh, so "you're saying" you were using figurative speech.

And because of that, I'm actually the liar?

Is this like the "I'm rubber, you're glue" game?


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The sad thing is this could have all been avoided. We can keep it from happening in the future if we just use common sense. You lefties can protest all you want. Line the sidewalk and chant your mindless, often vulgar, chants. Flip ICE the bird. Just do not interfere with the police who are doing their job. Don’t block them, don’t touch them, don’t try to help a ICE target to get away.

Sadly, that is not what they have done. They have tried to prevent federal police officers from arresting these illegals. In fact they want ICE to leave and not arrest anyone. These lefties want all those illegals that were arrested to be back on the street. That is all that will make them happy. ICE is gone and the illegals are still there, on the streets of Minneapolis.

Below are the names of just a few of the illegals arrested by ICE. The ones your looney lefty buddies wanted to remain on the street.

Sriydorn Phaivan
Ton Vang
Chong Vue
Ge Yang
Hernan Cortes Valencia
Abdirashid Adosh Elmi

I hope I spelled all of those right. Those are a small sample of the people your looney lefty buddies wanted to remain living in Minneapolis. Just a few of many. Now if each of you lwould look up the records of these folks and then pick the one you want moving into your neighborhood, moving in right next door. As you think that over realize that those lefties interfering with ICE want all of them on the street. All of em. And for the life of me I cannot figure why any sane person (ok that’s a pretty high bar for many of those folks out there) would want to be living in a community with them running loose. But they do!! Go figure!

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Some of the lame excuses you have presented for killing people is just sad.

Now maybe you can list all of the American citizens and people who are here legally they have detained. How many of them have been pulled over, many more than once just because they're brown which qualifies them a s a suspect. Nobody wants violent criminals and gang members to stay in this country. So you can just stop with that BS any time now. What they don't want is wide sweeps of entire neighborhoods and people they have no cause to stop or detain other than the color of their skin being targeted.

There's a huge difference between those two things.


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Originally Posted by keithfromxenia
The sad thing is this could have all been avoided. We can keep it from happening in the future if we just use common sense. You lefties can protest all you want. Line the sidewalk and chant your mindless, often vulgar, chants. Flip ICE the bird. Just do not interfere with the police who are doing their job. Don’t block them, don’t touch them, don’t try to help a ICE target to get away.

Amen. When something this terrible happens, all you can do is hope it's impetus for change. Along those lines, people may want to dig into the "training" she was receiving at her little "stop ICE" circle-jerk. It may have cost her life. Let's hope others have more sense.


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Let's hope they start training these people for more than six weeks so they don't use people for target practice. Victim blaming is not attractive.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Let's hope they start training these people for more than six weeks so they don't use people for target practice. Victim blaming is not attractive.

Maybe the paid protesters can start training their people to not resist authority. Not to riot, not to obstruct, etc... What these people are doing is anything but protesting. Watching the madness in the streets in LA last summer, in Minnesota, Portland, Seattle, etc... Not liking what ICE is doing is one thing physically assaulting officers, obstructing them from performing their duties is another. What is happening against these Federal agents is domestic terrorism. If you disagree vote. If you want protest peacefully. Make your voice heard but infringing on someone else's rights is always wrong. What these agitators are doing is obstructing justice and many times worse. What is sad is quite a bit of the $$$ being paid to the paid protesters that is stirring people up is coming from the CCP. But the Dems are OK with it being they see it as opposing Trump. Sad!!!


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Let's hope they start training these people for more than six weeks so they don't use people for target practice. Victim blaming is not attractive.

Maybe the paid protesters can start training their people to not resist authority. Not to riot, not to obstruct, etc... What these people are doing is anything but protesting. Watching the madness in the streets in LA last summer, in Minnesota, Portland, Seattle, etc... Not liking what ICE is doing is one thing physically assaulting officers, obstructing them from performing their duties is another. What is happening against these Federal agents is domestic terrorism. If you disagree vote. If you want protest peacefully. Make your voice heard but infringing on someone else's rights is always wrong. What these agitators are doing is obstructing justice and many times worse. What is sad is quite a bit of the $$$ being paid to the paid protesters that is stirring people up is coming from the CCP. But the Dems are OK with it being they see it as opposing Trump. Sad!!!


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So now obstruction carries the death penalty? So what is happening now is domestic terrorism but Jan. wasn't? You're a very strange little man.


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Maybe you should "join the war" to protect "your culture" Day......................

In ICE’s Own Words, It’s “Wartime” in America

ICE just launched a “wartime recruitment” campaign and seeks agents who want to “defend” their “culture.”

https://newrepublic.com/post/205122/ice-recruitment-wartime-america-renee-good


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Maybe you should "join the war" to protect "your culture" Day......................

In ICE’s Own Words, It’s “Wartime” in America

ICE just launched a “wartime recruitment” campaign and seeks agents who want to “defend” their “culture.”

https://newrepublic.com/post/205122/ice-recruitment-wartime-america-renee-good

Those opposing ICE act like the enemy to our Country they need to be treated like an enemy to our Country.


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Typical right wing extremist propaganda. It looks like ICE will soon be getting a new recruit. Enjoy that sign on bonus.

But since they have fooled you so badly to this point let me warn you about something they didn't tell you. To receive the full potential maximum $50,000 ICE sign-on bonus, an agent generally has to complete a service requirement that spans three to five years, with the bonus typically paid out in annual installments.

They're very tricky and deceptive that way. That's why they already have you fooled to this point.

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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Typical right wing extremist propaganda. It looks like ICE will soon be getting a new recruit. Enjoy that sign on bonus.

But since they have fooled you so badly to this point let me warn you about something they didn't tell you. To receive the full potential maximum $50,000 ICE sign-on bonus, an agent generally has to complete a service requirement that spans three to five years, with the bonus typically paid out in annual installments.

They're very tricky and deceptive that way. That's why they already have you fooled to this point.

You're welcome.

Your funny. Just because some weirdo's and left-wing extremist do not like what ICE is doing it is not a reason to stop law enforcement from doing a very important job keeping Americans safe. The blue hair Jihadists do not run this country and heaven help us if they ever do.


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So can you tell me what what Jihadists have to do with ICE protests? And if the White House labels them as "domestic terrorists" what do you call Jan. 6th protestors? Over 100 Police officers were assaulted that day. So it seems like according to their own description it appears trump pardoned a lot of "domestic terrorists".

And let's recap here. You do know what ICE stands for don't you? Immigration and Customs Enforcement. That's the extent of their authority. Everything else is the responsibility of police officers. The more you read, the more you know.


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Federal prosecutors quit amid Trump administration pressure to focus Minnesota shooting probe on victim

Prosecutors quit: The first assistant US attorney in Minneapolis and at least five other lawyers resigned amid White House pressure to focus the probe into the Immigration and Customs Enforcement-involved shooting last week of a mother on her actions and those of people around her, someone briefed on the matter said.

https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/minnesota-immigration-ice-trump-minneapolis-01-13-26

Trump wants to write the narrative just as the investigation is beginning. No surprise there. It isn't the first time.


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CNN: "someone briefed on the matter said"

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Hey, that's at least as good as some rando on Twitter. naughtydevil


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Pretty much. Don't know if you saw this, I was surprised I didn't think of it as much as I make fun of the media...

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Many people had no idea that impeding traffic resulted in the death penalty. We are learning a lot of new things during the trump administration.

Just shut up man. You know that is BS.

It wasn't a death penalty. She died because she drove her car at an ICE officer.

I know you are a smart enough guy to know you don't try to flee the law and start driving at a law enforcement officer. Any dumb ass knows that doesn't end well.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
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ICE Agent Permanently Blinds Protestor by Shooting Him in the Face with a Less Than Lethal Round from 3 feet away.

He was clearly threatening to kill the agents while.... (let me look) - using his hands to hold a megaphone...

https://x.com/abc7abigail/status/2009876815117160779

https://www.latimes.com/california/...anently-blinded-by-dhs-agent-family-says

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The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

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Just shut up man. You know that is BS.

No.

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It wasn't a death penalty. She died because she drove her car at an ICE officer.

You haven't been paying attention. She was trying to turn away from him. She wasn't "driving her car at him". But I have said I understand how in his position why he took the first shot. You have no excuse for the second and third shot. So just shut up man.

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I know you are a smart enough guy to know you don't try to flee the law and start driving at a law enforcement officer. Any dumb ass knows that doesn't end well.

And any dumb ass knows you don't continue shooting at someone once there is no longer a threat. Some of you keep trying to make excuses for those second and third shots when there is none.


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I'm show long they are currently training ICE agents for. If a man with his experience can make such a mistake as he did by taking those second and third shots, just imagine people only having been trained for six weeks.


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DOJ sees no basis for civil rights investigation following ICE shooting in Minneapolis, official says

The Department of Justice (DOJ) is reportedly not investigating the fatal shooting of Renee Good by a federal immigration officer as a civil rights case.

“There is currently no basis for a criminal civil rights investigation,” Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche told CNN Tuesday. The Hill has reached out to the DOJ for comment.

Good, 37, was shot and killed last Wednesday by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Officer Jonathan Ross in Minneapolis. The shooting sparked protests against the Trump administration’s widespread immigration crackdown.

The administration has defended Ross, arguing he acted in self-defense and Good obstructed federal law enforcement operations and weaponized her vehicle against officers in an act of “domestic terrorism.”

Federal investigators have also restricted local authorities’ access to materials and evidence, over the objections of city and state officials. Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension (BCA) Superintendent Drew Evans wrote last Thursday that his agency has “reluctantly withdrawn” from the investigation after the FBI informed it of the decision.

“We expect the FBI to conduct a thorough and complete investigation and that the full investigative file will be shared with the appropriate prosecutorial authorities at both the state and federal levels,” Evans added.

A day later, Evans wrote the BCA “remains open to conducting a full investigation” into the incident if the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Minnesota and the FBI “express a willingness to resume a joint investigation” or to share the evidence.

But earlier Tuesday, six federal prosecutors in the state — including Joseph H. Thompson, the first assistant U.S. attorney — resigned, with The New York Times reporting their departures stemmed from the DOJ’s attempts to investigate Good’s widow’s instead of Ross.

Thompson was the lead prosecutor on the DOJ’s probe into fraud within Minnesota’s social services program. Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz (D) said Tuesday his resignation is “a huge loss for our state” and the “latest sign [President] Trump is pushing nonpartisan career professionals out of the justice department, replacing them with his sycophants.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5687963-doj-not-investigating-renee-good-shooting/

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“I can also see the point of view of the people that say, ‘Yeah, but you don’t want militarized people in the streets just roaming around snatching people up, many of which turn out to actually be U.S. citizens that just don’t have their papers on them,’” Rogan said. “Are we really going to be the Gestapo? ‘Where’s your papers?’ Is that what we’ve come to?”

Rogan said it was “very ugly to watch someone shoot a U.S. citizen, especially a woman, in the face.”

“It just looked horrific to me,” Rogan said. “I mean, when people are saying it’s justifiable because the car hit him, it seemed like she was kind of turning the car away.”

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The agent taken to the hospital after the incident suffered internal bleeding to his torso. That is what happens when you disobey officers' orders and use your car as a weapon. The severity of those injuries prove that his actions were justified. No officer should ever not have the ability to defend their selves.


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The Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent, identified as Jonathan Ross, was seen and released from the hospital on the same day he was involved in the fatal shooting of Renee Good in Minneapolis on January 7, 2026.

Sure sounds like his injuries weren't serious enough for him to be hospitalized.

He most likely felt he was defending himself on that first shot. There is still no excuse for those second and third shots.


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The Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent, identified as Jonathan Ross, was seen and released from the hospital on the same day he was involved in the fatal shooting of Renee Good in Minneapolis on January 7, 2026.

Sure sounds like his injuries weren't serious enough for him to be hospitalized.

He most likely felt he was defending himself on that first shot. There is still no excuse for those second and third shots.

Why was she there? She caused her own death. Protest is one thing obstructing and threatening behavior is another. The Agent should not get internal bleeding if incident was not serious. Sorry you are proven wrong once again!!!

https://www.foxnews.com/us/ice-agen...uffered-internal-bleeding-torso-dhs-says


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She was steering her vehicle away from the ICE agent. I get how and why the agent felt in fear for his life when he made that first shot. What part of that are you having trouble comprehending?

You didn't prove anything wrong. He was well clear of the vehicle and had at least four feet of clearance when he took those second and third shots.

If the first shot caused her death I will agree with you. If it was the second or third shots you are wrong. The penalty for obstruction is not death.

But you see, we'll never know which shot killed her. Homeland Security and the FBI refuses to share any information or evidence with state or local officials and at this point refuse to conduct so much as an investigation on the shooting. Yet another thing I'm sure you approve of.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
She was steering her vehicle away from the ICE agent. I get how and why the agent felt in fear for his life when he made that first shot. What part of that are you having trouble comprehending?

You didn't prove anything wrong. He was well clear of the vehicle and had at least four feet of clearance when he took those second and third shots.

If the first shot caused her death I will agree with you. If it was the second or third shots you are wrong. The penalty for obstruction is not death.

But you see, we'll never know which shot killed her. Homeland Security and the FBI refuses to share any information or evidence with state or local officials and at this point refuse to conduct so much as an investigation on the shooting. Yet another thing I'm sure you approve of.

Maybe the State and Local officials would be more cooperating with the Feds they would be more cooperating with them. See how that works. Instead, they are allowing these dreads of society to interfere with officers doing an important job for our country to get criminals and illegals out of our country. I understand that getting these illegals out will continue to uncover the fraud these state and local officials have been involved and more than likely profiting off of but there is no reason to allow them to interfere. The mayor has had his police pull back when ICE requested help with agitators before and after this incident. These dreads of society show their true colors time and time again they wave the flags of Ukraine, Palestine, Mexico, Iran, Venezuela and are seen burning the US flag in the streets. Paints a clear picture who they are dealing with doesn't it?


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No, I don't see how covering up evidence in a ICE involved shooting works. You realize what you want to believe and hope will happen and that's all you realize. Sharing the evidence is not interfering in anything. Most of the things you listed never even happened during these protests. Expand your news sources and your mind. Your imagination is getting the best of you.

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time and time again they wave the flags of Ukraine, Palestine, Mexico, Iran, Venezuela and are seen burning the US flag in the streets. Paints a clear picture who they are dealing with doesn't it?

Most of those things never happened during any of these protests in Minnesota and certainly not on the day of the incident. Try to focus. You realize that none of those things are crimes don't you? Are you saying people shouldn't be waving Ukrainian flags in support of Ukraine as Putin slaughters their people? Did you join the Putin fan club with trump?


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
No, I don't see how covering up evidence in a ICE involved shooting works. You realize what you want to believe and hope will happen and that's all you realize. Sharing the evidence is not interfering in anything. Most of the things you listed never even happened during these protests. Expand your news sources and your mind. Your imagination is getting the best of you.

ICE has requested police intervention in Minneapolis and has been denied. Why should the Feds work with State and Local officials when they do not provide assistance when requested. The Feds will clearly protect their officer. I am aligned with that. The State and Local officials clearly want the opposite and make an example of that officer. It is sad that is what this Country has turned into because of the madness on the left. I saw the video from many angles and the officer was justified plain and simple. 1st shoot, 2nd shoot, 3rd shoot etc... It is idiotic to think otherwise. One person was acting in the line of duty and the other person put themselves in danger from her won stupidity and actions. Even her own Father-in-law said she was clearly at fault in the incident.


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