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Yep, I’m waiting for them to name Gabriel to the Pro Bowl too. Then there can be Flag Football QB drama over who should be higher on the depth chart.

There are 10k comedians out of work and you're on here trying to be funny.

I think the NFL should name Phillip Rivers as his backup.

Hey all I said was Bailey Zappe got the shaft.

Oh…darn…

j/c…

Off to Paris. À Bientôt!

Thanks for the memories (I'm sincere this time around)! And best wishes.

Writing was on the wall for awhile now.....

No reason why he shouldn't have retired a Brown.

Browns is the Browns.

Obviously there are.

I liked Wyatt but sometimes business forces decisions. Sometimes the money paid offers diminished returns.

Across the league, I wonder what the average tenure is for a player staying with the same team? Even if you toss out the guys who flip around for 3 years it isn't all that long. Maybe 5?

I don't really assign blame for player movement. If I did, it's probably about equal. Sometimes players want to move on. It isn't always the teams fault.

We're probably going to have at least 3 new starters on the OL maybe 4. I hope Joel will play one more year as a vet presence on the line will be needed. We could get that with a FA signing but who knows. There is a lot right now that's up in the air. Many important decisions to be made so we can only speculate.

As others have mentioned, the writing was on the wall when he started splitting reps with Jenkins with little (as far as I could tell) drop off.

I like him, but when we talk about that we are mostly drawing from his first 2 years here in Cleveland. It's been a steady decline since then. I hope he can leverage his tape into getting on a winning team and having some more success. He's a good dude.

And often times men that want to compete and win in their profession move on because of the situation they are in. I suppose you could blame that on the team or the player. Sometimes you have to provide an environment that makes people want to stay.

Not surprised. According to PFF his play had slipped a lot the last 2 years, he went from being the #1 rated OG in 2020 and the #5 OG in 2021 to the #43 rated OG in 2024 and the #39 rated OG this past season and when you figure what he was being paid it wasn't likely he would be retained.

And his injuries the past few years didn't help his cause either.

I'm willing to bet his rating slip was influenced quite a bit by the instability in the RT spot. I do hope he has a successful free agency.

We are doing a total rebuild of the offense in terms of talent, age, and offensive system. As much as we like him, he's not a cornerstone player.

I don't disagree. Which at the same time leaves one glaring question.

He is currently ranked 39th at the G position. Which means there are 25 starting G's in the NFL ranked below him. So will his replacement actually mean improvement at the position? Because currently there are only 38 other players in the league who are ranked better. And as you stated, it's very likely that poor RT play has impacted his performance. Playing your own position while having to try and compensate for the guy playing next to you isn't a position anyone wants to be in.

It is more than likely Bitonio is done.

They moved his date back until march.

With a post June 1 retirement, they can spread the cap hit over 2 seasons.

If for some reason he does come back, we can drop his cap hit to 12-15 mill this year.

IMO, JOK is also done. There are plenty of rumors that no doctor will clear him to play football in the NFL - they are really worried about the next hit would do.

Rumors are rumors

How many players have had concussions and injuries and were said to be done ?

The Browns Ward was one of them as along as Tua

Money matters, not health unless the player makes that decision to walk away

I really don't think we'll ever see JOK hit the field again.

He was the first Brown (and one of the first NFL players) to wear the Guardian Cap. Not because he was previously injured, because he experienced a jarring hit that he couldn't just shake off and wanted to feel safe and secure.

He said this:


His type of injury is one that can ruin his life. Part of that neck/spinal cord/nerve damage variety that leaves doctors always saying there is no guarantee that a future injury won't make it worse or even catastrophic. He'll embrace his role on the sideline and be a mentor to young players until he finds something outside the NFL that he is more passionate about.

I dunno... I think them pushing back his date to decide to come back is them thinking he'll play. I also think Teller leaving is evidence of Bitonio staying, but that's only if you're operating under the assumption that 1 starting OL from 2025 ends up playing in 2026 (which is what I'm thinking).

I'm getting scared of the JOK situation. Obviously, he's gotta take care of his own health... but the total news blackout on his situation is really weird (hearing so little over such a long time).

I believe it's more an indication that they're "hoping he will play" rather than "thinking he will play".

I don't see their decisions of Bitonio and Teller being connected in any way.

I certainly have no idea what decision he will make but according to all indications it was a border line call that he even returned to play last year.

With all of the coaching changes and player turnover expected on the OL I'm not so sure he wants to insert himself into that situation at the end of his career.