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Yep, I’m waiting for them to name Gabriel to the Pro Bowl too. Then there can be Flag Football QB drama over who should be higher on the depth chart.

There are 10k comedians out of work and you're on here trying to be funny.

I think the NFL should name Phillip Rivers as his backup.

Hey all I said was Bailey Zappe got the shaft.

Oh…darn…

j/c…

Off to Paris. À Bientôt!

Thanks for the memories (I'm sincere this time around)! And best wishes.

Writing was on the wall for awhile now.....

No reason why he shouldn't have retired a Brown.

Browns is the Browns.

Obviously there are.

I liked Wyatt but sometimes business forces decisions. Sometimes the money paid offers diminished returns.

Across the league, I wonder what the average tenure is for a player staying with the same team? Even if you toss out the guys who flip around for 3 years it isn't all that long. Maybe 5?

I don't really assign blame for player movement. If I did, it's probably about equal. Sometimes players want to move on. It isn't always the teams fault.

We're probably going to have at least 3 new starters on the OL maybe 4. I hope Joel will play one more year as a vet presence on the line will be needed. We could get that with a FA signing but who knows. There is a lot right now that's up in the air. Many important decisions to be made so we can only speculate.

As others have mentioned, the writing was on the wall when he started splitting reps with Jenkins with little (as far as I could tell) drop off.

I like him, but when we talk about that we are mostly drawing from his first 2 years here in Cleveland. It's been a steady decline since then. I hope he can leverage his tape into getting on a winning team and having some more success. He's a good dude.

And often times men that want to compete and win in their profession move on because of the situation they are in. I suppose you could blame that on the team or the player. Sometimes you have to provide an environment that makes people want to stay.

Not surprised. According to PFF his play had slipped a lot the last 2 years, he went from being the #1 rated OG in 2020 and the #5 OG in 2021 to the #43 rated OG in 2024 and the #39 rated OG this past season and when you figure what he was being paid it wasn't likely he would be retained.

And his injuries the past few years didn't help his cause either.

I'm willing to bet his rating slip was influenced quite a bit by the instability in the RT spot. I do hope he has a successful free agency.

We are doing a total rebuild of the offense in terms of talent, age, and offensive system. As much as we like him, he's not a cornerstone player.

I don't disagree. Which at the same time leaves one glaring question.

He is currently ranked 39th at the G position. Which means there are 25 starting G's in the NFL ranked below him. So will his replacement actually mean improvement at the position? Because currently there are only 38 other players in the league who are ranked better. And as you stated, it's very likely that poor RT play has impacted his performance. Playing your own position while having to try and compensate for the guy playing next to you isn't a position anyone wants to be in.

It is more than likely Bitonio is done.

They moved his date back until march.

With a post June 1 retirement, they can spread the cap hit over 2 seasons.

If for some reason he does come back, we can drop his cap hit to 12-15 mill this year.

IMO, JOK is also done. There are plenty of rumors that no doctor will clear him to play football in the NFL - they are really worried about the next hit would do.

Rumors are rumors

How many players have had concussions and injuries and were said to be done ?

The Browns Ward was one of them as along as Tua

Money matters, not health unless the player makes that decision to walk away

I really don't think we'll ever see JOK hit the field again.

He was the first Brown (and one of the first NFL players) to wear the Guardian Cap. Not because he was previously injured, because he experienced a jarring hit that he couldn't just shake off and wanted to feel safe and secure.

He said this:


His type of injury is one that can ruin his life. Part of that neck/spinal cord/nerve damage variety that leaves doctors always saying there is no guarantee that a future injury won't make it worse or even catastrophic. He'll embrace his role on the sideline and be a mentor to young players until he finds something outside the NFL that he is more passionate about.

I dunno... I think them pushing back his date to decide to come back is them thinking he'll play. I also think Teller leaving is evidence of Bitonio staying, but that's only if you're operating under the assumption that 1 starting OL from 2025 ends up playing in 2026 (which is what I'm thinking).

I'm getting scared of the JOK situation. Obviously, he's gotta take care of his own health... but the total news blackout on his situation is really weird (hearing so little over such a long time).

I believe it's more an indication that they're "hoping he will play" rather than "thinking he will play".

I don't see their decisions of Bitonio and Teller being connected in any way.

I certainly have no idea what decision he will make but according to all indications it was a border line call that he even returned to play last year.

With all of the coaching changes and player turnover expected on the OL I'm not so sure he wants to insert himself into that situation at the end of his career.

I don't understand.. Was he told that the Browns don't wanna resign him? Same with the Chief?

I don’t believe JOK will play another down in the NFL. He had a compressed spine, and continuing to play in the NFL with that sword hanging over your head is not worth the risk.

Report: Doubtful that Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah plays again

Browns linebacker Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah has not played since suffering a neck injury in October 2024 and it is reportedly a long shot that he’ll be able to get back on the field in the future.

Mary Kay Cabot of Cleveland.com reports that it is “doubtful at best” that Owusu-Koramoah will ever play again. Owusu-Koramoah was immobilized and placed on a back board after a collision with Ravens running back Derrick Henry and then taken to the hospital for further evaluation.

Owusu-Koramoah spent all of last season on the physically unable to perform list. When he was ruled out for the year, Owusu-Koramoah said in a statement that he doesn’t “know what’s next, but I’ll continue trusting my medical team, serving the community, and backing my brothers on the field.”

Owusu-Koramoah was a 2021 second-round pick in Cleveland. He has 308 tackles, eight sacks, three interceptions, and six forced fumbles in 49 career games.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profo...that-jeremiah-owusu-koramoah-plays-again

I hate to see players get hurt but that risk is one of the reasons they get paid a lot of money.

Browns add a 2-time NFL head coach as senior defensive assistant
https://www.cleveland.com/browns/20...apers-as-senior-defensive-assistant.html

Wow, wonder what those price tags look like?

Berry is a big fan of trading for WRs instead of drafting them. It isn't a terrible idea depending on the what is costs.

What I am seeing, expectations are a 2nd round pick for Harrison, would jump on that today...
Olave is also borderline 2nd/late first compensation, but more complicated since he is on the last year of his contract. So anyone that would trade for him would need the contract extension in place prior to the trade.

Both would be upgrades capable of holding the #1 receiver moniker that Jeudy could/can not.

Both are wasting away on bad teams... so why not come over to Cleveland to waste away on our team?

I was a huge fan of Olave... Depends on the price.

Yes please on Harrison. He has played waaay below his potential.

41 for 608 while only playing 9 games with more than three targets in '25.

Cards were 23rd passing. Harrison with 5 catches in tight windows, ranking 5th in the NFL in those high-leverage situations.


He needs a change of scenery. 6'3" / 220 with world-class speed... sign me up.

If the report is true, I'm guessing Berry is trying to gauge the market to buy low on Harrison, like he did with Cooper and Juedy. Here is my issue with Harrison- I grant him the fact he had Kyler Murray at QB early on in his career, but I really didn't see much of a change once Brissett started playing, unlike Trey McBride. I haven't looked at the full comparison and I know there were some games Harrison was out that made McBride look better but, hell, Michael Wilson was the leading WR in yards, TDs, yards per game, YAC, and overall targets.

There were reports going into 2025 that Harrison deliberately put on a little extra weight (to be better at ball contesting and leverage) and that might have made him slower....I don't know. He has been VERY disappointing so far.

I'd have a hard time arguing with that. The facts are the facts.

I think we became pretty spoiled over the last few years and have forgotten that everyone is not a Ja'Marr Chase or Justin Jefferson. Harrison is measured as generational talent because that's what he was drafted as. We tend to forget that most WRs breakout in year three.

He has all the tools. If I could grab him with a 2nd round pick I would see that as less risk, and actual higher certainty, than most players available in the draft. Especially when you consider those "sure things" require a 1st round pick, and in most cases, actually have a lower ceiling if outside the top ten.

How about an even up#12 for #12 trade

WR feels like one of the positions that takes time to fully adjust to from college. Travis Hunter sucked until he got injured. McMillan was decent but sporadic in production, Egbuka started off strong but faded away like a fart in the wind, Golden didn't do [censored], Higgins was meh, Burden came on at the end of the season. My problem is, out of all of those guys listed, they all looked better than Harrison's rookie year, at least to me. Minus Golden, maybe. That's my concern.... he's in year three and doesn't have much of a resume compared to the ones that came after. I won't even get into the WRs that were drafted after him in 2024.


2nd round is too much for my blood. A 4th with incentives that make it higher based on production in the following year's draft.

I don't really disagree with your premise but at the same time, why would a team want to accept such a deal with a team who doesn't even have a #1 QB and the way it looks they will be playing a project to see what they have in him at the position? That's not exactly a recipe that's conducive for a WR to have great stats. It seems as if that would be asking them to make a deal where the odds are already against them at the start.

I agree with you, with the better teams it definitely takes 2-4 years for WRs to show on the stat sheet. But circumstances dictate it as much as talent does.

a) They've already made public comments that Travis Hunter will be exclusively on defense, with possibly a couple of special plays on offense. That experiment didn't last long.
b) Egbuka came on strong when the Buccs two best WRs went down to injury. His production started to drop week 11. Chris Godwin game back week 11 and Mike Evans came back week 14. The Buccs saw enough that they are letting Evans go in free agency rather than signing him to his final contract to retire a Buccaneer.
c) Golden was drafted into a perfect situation, for Green Bay fans anyway. They are loaded with a talented WR room consisting of Christian Watson, Romeo Doubs and Jayden Reed, all veterans with 3 or more years experience. Doubs is a free agent this year and Watson is a free agent next year. Green Bay just did what good teams do, they reload BEFORE the cupboard is empty.
d) Jayden Higgins was drafted to a team with Nico Collins, Christian Kirk and Tank Dell on it... over 550 yds and 6 TDs is pretty damn good
e) Luther Burden, again was drafted to a team that had DJ Moore and Rome Odunze, as well as drafting what turned out to be one of the top TEs in the league in Colsten Loveland before him. Still he managed 652 yds and 2 TDs.

Harrison actually had 885 yds and 8 TDs his rookie year.. he regressed in 2025 with QB issues, but aside from Tet McMillan, none of them had the rookie year Harrison did.

As for Olave, he has been a bright mark on an otherwise meh team since he joined the NFL.

I would take either of these veterans for a 2nd round pick. Obviously I would rather make a trade with a 4th, moving up with incentives in 2027, but I don't think either team is going to do that. If you gave a 2nd for one of these two, it would give you more reason to trade down at #6.. probably getting at the very least a second round pick back. More likely, move several spots and get a 2027 first AND another second either this year or next.

As for rookies, I think the only one in this draft that isn't going to need that adjustment is Tate. All others will look like #2 or #3 WRs their rookie year I believe. Some will be drafted by teams that they really are #2 or #3 receivers, others will just need that adjustment period to become better players in the NFL. Personally, I think Desmond Boston will also adjust to the NFL faster than the others, but not the same level as Tate.