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I have been at odds with Berry over his time in Cleveland.
Obviously the Watson trade was horrible.
His draft record before last year was hit on some; lost on others.
His strength has been trades. And last year he made a whopper. The Hunter trade down probably saved his job. He netted Mason Graham and Q.
Then he hit big on Carson and Fannin. Hell if Sanders even becomes a solid backup he would be worth a 5th rounder. If he becomes a good starter it is a major score.
If Andrew Berry repeats this year and next with sound productive players we have us a great young GM.
No matter your job you hope to get better at what you do with experience. Berry was the youngest GM hired in NFL history and he is a black man.
He has broken barriers.
I really hope he has a great draft and many more to come.
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I concur with your post Bone. I don't know how much he had to do with the Watson trade but he is the GM and he is culpable no matter. Those 3 #1's we lost were brutal. His last draft was awesome and if we have another one like that this year with Shedeur just playing decent, we can contend for the division IMO. I've stated in the past I like AB and I'm glad he didn't get fired. I felt the same about KS but it seemed a change at HC was warranted. We'll know in a week our new players and how we did at least on paper.
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Stefanski was always going to be the fall guy for Berry's ineptitude.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
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Agreed, the Watson trade is his albatross, and yes the trade with JAX was big, a great draft last year - Gabriel, hopefully he is a legit GM, we will find out soon!
JOHN 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the [only] Way [to God] and the [real] Truth and the [real] Life; no one comes to the Father but through Me."
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I have been at odds with Berry over his time in Cleveland.
Obviously the Watson trade was horrible.
His draft record before last year was hit on some; lost on others.
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I have been at odds with Berry over his time in Cleveland.
Obviously the Watson trade was horrible.
His draft record before last year was hit on some; lost on others. It's amazing that after years of coaching influence negatively effecting who we draft (and ownership too, no doubt), there are still people who clamor for it and want to undermine the front office staff.
At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
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Chiefs general manager Brett Veach is predicting an active Thursday with plenty of trades. Others are not so sure.
More teams want to trade down than up this year, per multiple sources. This means there could be fewer first-round deals than in recent years, as it takes two to make a deal come together. There were five draft-day trades in Round 1 last year, five in 2024, seven in 2023 and nine in 2022. Teams expect the trades we do see to be more jockeying for position than earthshaking blockbusters, such as the deal we saw last year between the Browns and Jaguars, when Cleveland moved out of the No. 2 pick in a stunning trade with the Jaguars.
One year later, the Browns are already taking calls about the No. 6 pick, and sources said they're open to moving it. Another move back would give the Browns more capital in a draft in which they are already scheduled to have nine picks, including Nos. 6 and 24 in the first round.
A potential trade-up candidate in the eyes of some front office executives is the Cowboys. They have two first-round picks -- though they are said to want to hold onto pick No. 20 -- and needs for a big-time defensive player. Speaking of which ...
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I have been at odds with Berry over his time in Cleveland.
Obviously the Watson trade was horrible.
His draft record before last year was hit on some; lost on others. It's amazing that after years of coaching influence negatively effecting who we draft (and ownership too, no doubt), there are still people who clamor for it and want to undermine the front office staff.
memp...tell everyone who that was.
IMO, Berry needs help judging OLine talent and hopefully Monken and his staff can help our GM out.
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It was Berry. And he is right.
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You should be very worried, Mac: Todd Monken-- "I would just say it's our job to make any player feel comfortable wherever we put them. Certainly a player's going to feel more comfortable where they've played the majority of their snaps... but certainly it's our job to... I mean, I just read the other day that [Detroit Lions' Penei] Sewell's going to be moved maybe to left tackle. Well, if you're a great player, you ought to be able to play left or right tackle, right? Don't restrict yourself to what I can and can't do. I would never want to say that about a coach or a player."
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It was Berry. And he is right.
OLine judgement has not been a strong area of Berry's draft history and this year, the Browns are in a position to begin rebuilding their OLine via the draft. The Browns and GM Berry can't afford any OLine misses in this draft.
Hopefully Monken and his staff can help Berry judge the OL talent available.
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You should be very worried, Mac: Todd Monken-- "I would just say it's our job to make any player feel comfortable wherever we put them. Certainly a player's going to feel more comfortable where they've played the majority of their snaps... but certainly it's our job to... I mean, I just read the other day that [Detroit Lions' Penei] Sewell's going to be moved maybe to left tackle. Well, if you're a great player, you ought to be able to play left or right tackle, right? Don't restrict yourself to what I can and can't do. I would never want to say that about a coach or a player." "Sure, it's important, the left tackle with the right-handed quarterback," Browns coach Todd Monken said during last month's AFC coaches breakfast at the NFL annual meetings. "But I know this, when [the Pittsburgh Steelers'] TJ Watt lines up on the right side, you'd feel a lot better if you had a really good right tackle. I mean, if we [the Baltimore Ravens] were playing Myles [Garrett] and he jumps over there, we're not going to jump. We weren't going to jump [Ravens left tackle] Ronnie Stanley over there. So you really need two tackles. Certainly the left side is critical."
Wills draft choice is proof that Berry's philosophy that a RT can play LT too...was proven wrong, by Berry himself. Some OTs are athletic enough to switch sides..some are not. We don't want to see Berry make another poor pick at OT and waste another high pick on a player that can't perform at a high level.
As Monken said..So you really need two tackles. Certainly the left side is critical."
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