I feel like some posters chimed in on this topic last season (or maybe it was just me) about odds to consider for draft spot selection. I thought we could consolidate the topic to one thread. In the spirit of that, here are the current odds on Draftkings of the top 5 players to be drafted at #6, the Browns current selection spot.
Carnell Tate +185 Monroe Freeling +250 Francis Mauigoa +600 David Bailey +900 Jordyn Tyson +950
At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
I feel like some posters chimed in on this topic last season (or maybe it was just me) about odds to consider for draft spot selection. I thought we could consolidate the topic to one thread. In the spirit of that, here are the current odds on Draftkings of the top 5 players to be drafted at #6, the Browns current selection spot.
Carnell Tate +185 Monroe Freeling +250 Francis Mauigoa +600 David Bailey +900 Jordyn Tyson +950
There are some interesting odds to consider if one thinks the Browns' preference is to trade down and a team wants to leap frog another to draft a high-end player. For example:
Always a fun time of the year. Good stuff, Memphis.
I may have to recklessly sprinkle some coupons on Downs and Fano (have not seen his odds).
The monsters over at FD only current draft betting options is "who will be selected at #3 overall." They need to get with the program and get more options released. Hopefully, as the draft approaches.
The season win total for the Browns is a betting option:
Over/Under on OL being drafted in the first round is 7.5.....-115 in both directions. Over/Under on QBs being drafted in the first round is 1.5.......Over is -280 Over/Under on WRs being drafted in the first round is 5.5....Under is -225. Interesting.
At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
I feel like some posters chimed in on this topic last season (or maybe it was just me) about odds to consider for draft spot selection. I thought we could consolidate the topic to one thread. In the spirit of that, here are the current odds on Draftkings of the top 5 players to be drafted at #6, the Browns current selection spot.
Carnell Tate +185 Monroe Freeling +250 Francis Mauigoa +600 David Bailey +900 Jordyn Tyson +950
Carnell Tate +185 Monroe Freeling +320 Francis Mauigoa +500 Spencer Fano +1000 David Bailey +1000 Jordyn Tyson +1000
Although the odds haven't changed for Tate, he separated a bit from Freeling. And Fano has entered the field.
At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
Over/Under on OL being drafted in the first round is 7.5.....-115 in both directions. Over/Under on QBs being drafted in the first round is 1.5.......Over is -280 Over/Under on WRs being drafted in the first round is 5.5....Under is -225. Interesting.
Over/Under on OL being drafted in the first round is 7.5.....-155 Over, +120 Under. This seems to mirror of lot of the things I've listened to and/or read. Other OL are in the conversation in Rd. 1. Not sure if this is media catching up with the league with 2.5 weeks to go. Over/Under on QBs being drafted in the first round is 1.5.......Over is -205, Under + 155. Thinking about taking the Under. Over/Under on WRs being drafted in the first round is 5.5....Over is +170, Under is -225. Thinking about taking the over w/ Tate, Tyson, Lemon, Concepcion, Cooper, Boston going in Rd. 1.
At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
I feel like some posters chimed in on this topic last season (or maybe it was just me) about odds to consider for draft spot selection. I thought we could consolidate the topic to one thread. In the spirit of that, here are the current odds on Draftkings of the top 5 players to be drafted at #6, the Browns current selection spot.
Carnell Tate +185 Monroe Freeling +250 Francis Mauigoa +600 David Bailey +900 Jordyn Tyson +950
Carnell Tate +185 Monroe Freeling +320 Francis Mauigoa +500 Spencer Fano +1000 David Bailey +1000 Jordyn Tyson +1000
Although the odds haven't changed for Tate, he separated a bit from Freeling. And Fano has entered the field.
Carnell Tate +150 Monroe Freeling +425 Francis Mauigoa + 550 Spencer Fano +900 David Baily +1200 Jordyn Tyson +1300
Tate continues to separate.
At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
I feel like some posters chimed in on this topic last season (or maybe it was just me) about odds to consider for draft spot selection. I thought we could consolidate the topic to one thread. In the spirit of that, here are the current odds on Draftkings of the top 5 players to be drafted at #6, the Browns current selection spot.
Carnell Tate +185 Monroe Freeling +250 Francis Mauigoa +600 David Bailey +900 Jordyn Tyson +950
Carnell Tate +185 Monroe Freeling +320 Francis Mauigoa +500 Spencer Fano +1000 David Bailey +1000 Jordyn Tyson +1000
Although the odds haven't changed for Tate, he separated a bit from Freeling. And Fano has entered the field.
Carnell Tate +150 Monroe Freeling +425 Francis Mauigoa + 550 Spencer Fano +900 David Baily +1200 Jordyn Tyson +1300
Tate continues to separate.
Pick #6 Update:
Carnell Tate +140 Spencer Fano +500 Monroe Freeling +600 Francis Mauigoa +650 Sonny Styles +1000 Kadyn Proctor +1400
Spencer Fano makes a significant leap, Styles and Proctor make the top 5, but Tate continues to separate even more.
Last edited by MemphisBrownie; 04/15/2608:23 AM.
At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
I feel like some posters chimed in on this topic last season (or maybe it was just me) about odds to consider for draft spot selection. I thought we could consolidate the topic to one thread. In the spirit of that, here are the current odds on Draftkings of the top 5 players to be drafted at #6, the Browns current selection spot.
Carnell Tate +185 Monroe Freeling +250 Francis Mauigoa +600 David Bailey +900 Jordyn Tyson +950
Carnell Tate +185 Monroe Freeling +320 Francis Mauigoa +500 Spencer Fano +1000 David Bailey +1000 Jordyn Tyson +1000
Although the odds haven't changed for Tate, he separated a bit from Freeling. And Fano has entered the field.
Carnell Tate +150 Monroe Freeling +425 Francis Mauigoa + 550 Spencer Fano +900 David Baily +1200 Jordyn Tyson +1300
Tate continues to separate.
Pick #6 Update:
Carnell Tate +140 Spencer Fano +500 Monroe Freeling +600 Francis Mauigoa +650 Sonny Styles +1000 Kadyn Proctor +1400
Spencer Fano makes a significant leap, Styles and Proctor make the top 5, but Tate continues to separate even more.
Happy NFL Draft Week to all who celebrate!
Carnell Tate +300 Spencer Fano +380 Sonny Styles +450 Francis Mauigoa +600 Monroe Freeling +800
WOAH! Major changes are afoot! Tate's odds plummeted with Fano moving up significantly to only separate by +80. Freeling plummeted (not surprising to me) and this looks like quite a toss up at 6. I wonder if Vegas is thinking a trade could be in the works.
At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
I would not draft Mauioga. He already has back issues, and we cannot afford taking a chance on our future LT having back problems. Again, as I stated on another post, I would NOT take a chance drafting any player that already has injury concerns, and I base this on our history with this issue. Injury history is a red flag IMO and should be avoided.
I would not draft Mauioga. He already has back issues, and we cannot afford taking a chance on our future LT having back problems. Again, as I stated on another post, I would NOT take a chance drafting any player that already has injury concerns, and I base this on our history with this issue. Injury history is a red flag IMO and should be avoided.
If we draft Mauigoa, it won't be for the LT tackle position, it will be either RT or more likely guard. That being said, I agree.
Which leads me to:
Originally Posted by MemphisBrownie
Originally Posted by IrishDawg42
I agree.. I think the Dallas trade rumors are hitting the betting floor...
I think they are thinking Fano at #12
I wouldn't be surprised it if was for Tyson.
Jordyn Tyson also has those injury issues. I have been doing a lot of mocks and though they are by no means accurate.. When making this trade down with Dallas, Tate, Lemon AND Tyson have been gone more times than not by #12. It leads to taking another position, including offensive line and then sometimes I can get Boston, other times he is also gone by #20.
Under no circumstances do I want Concepcion. Issues with drops have never worked out positively for us, could he be the exception? Sure, but I would rather stay away if at all possible.
If I am assured to get Dezel Boston at either #20 with a trade or #24 staying put, I am ok with taking someone other than Tate at #6. There are no guarantees though...
I agree with your post Irish. Freeling and Proctor would be the guys we would draft for LT and I hope we can get one of them. I don't want Concepcion because of the drop issues. I remember Braylon Edwards and Quincy Morgan and there was probably another guy or 2. No Thanks. Too many other options to take that chance.
I actually like KC Concepcion for us. I think he'd be a good fit with Sanders. Easy separator. Not the biggest catch radius which hurt with a QB that sprayed the ball at times. The drop percentage could very well be a lot lower if the QB hit him when he was wide open. Having a guy that can get open quickly is something we kind of lacked. Throwing fade balls to him is never going to be his forte. Feed him slants, option, screens and crossing routes. Plus he has ST value as a returner. He may have the occasional drop, but he'll probably pull more rabbits out of hats, turning what looks like its dead on arrival into chunk plays. He appears to be kind of a one speed runner (full bore.) His drops mostly seem to come when he has to slow down for an off target throw. Hopefully Sanders' accuracy mitigates the number of those potential instances he finds himself in. He's just dangerous with the ball in his hands. We need more of those kinds of players. Deep ball winners are great... if your OL can hold up long enough to get it out to them. But, even with time, those are lower percentage plays. You can scheme up quick game for Concepcion. Put it in front of him and let him run (full speed) through it. Concepcion has twice as many TDs in his college career as Carnell Tate (28 to 14.) Tyson had 23 though had an additional year and has the injury concerns. (4 years in college vs 3 for Tate and KC.) Only will be 21. I also like that KC had an early breakout age. He balled as a freshman. Makai Lemon on the other hand had 6 total catches as a freshman.
Take someone like Ja'Kobi Lane later for those fades and back shoulder throws. Let Bond have the field stretching, low percentage deep shots.
I kind of like Brugler's mock. I think Fano and KC mesh well. Fano is good/great in space/on the move. Could see him popping Concepcion free on screens.
But then I'm trying to look more at accentuating strengths this draft and what might work together with what we've got than my normal find what is wrong with guys approach.
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I feel the same way. Catching is obviously uber important - think of how many drops Braylon Edwards had thru lapses of concentration, think of Jeudy the last 2 seasons - but I do love the idea of having a guy who separates consistently. And I have read plenty to suggest that it's technique as much as ability for Concepcion. Technique is most definitely coachable. At 24 - I would be happy with that pick, but I do get there is an element of risk. 8% drop rate is very high.
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The drops are definitely a bit concerning, but drops aren't really a "sticky" stat to me. Dez Bryant had a year with 12 drops. Sometimes they happen. It can be pretty volatile year to year, and not all drops are created equally. I don't see a "stone hands" situation with Concepcion.
I don't really see it as a "technique issue." I see it more as a waiting isn't naturally in his DNA issue. When he has to slow down for a late, behind and slow pass it can throw him out of synch. It sort of seems like at times he's thinking three moves ahead at lightning speed, but when the ball isn't where it's supposed to be when he expects it to be there, he has to hit rewind and his hands aren't always in synch with the recalculations. Sort of a mental overload where time's still going forward while he has to mentally go backwards, while also physically still adjusting to what's happening around him. Because he's so sudden/explosive, it can be hard to "slow down" when he's already made a move.
I think theoretically Shedeur's natural accuracy could limit the times he would need to recalculate. At the same time, I think his ability to get open quickly could limit Shedeur's issues when he holds the ball too long.
KC can stop quickly and will find the spots to sit down against zone. He just kind of has to have planned to stop.
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The issues I have is that if this were a single season issue it wouldn't be as much of an concern. it also appears his drops weren't mainly highly contested balls it was more the garden variety that he simply just dropped by loss of concentration. One may think it was an anomaly if it weren't two seasons in a row. But from the information I have found his drop rate was actually fairly consistent from 2024 to 2025. Depending on the source it appears his drop rate in 2025 is estimated between 10.3% to 11.1%. In 2024 his drop rate ranged between 9.1% to 11.7%.
The thing that brings his drop rate down as much as it is for his college career is in 2023 he had a very low drop rate of 4.8%.
I'm not 100% sure of the accuracy of these stats but I'm pretty sure they're it's at least close to being accurate.
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The drops are definitely a bit concerning, but drops aren't really a "sticky" stat to me. Dez Bryant had a year with 12 drops. Sometimes they happen. It can be pretty volatile year to year, and not all drops are created equally. I don't see a "stone hands" situation with Concepcion.
I don't really see it as a "technique issue." I see it more as a waiting isn't naturally in his DNA issue. When he has to slow down for a late, behind and slow pass it can throw him out of synch. It sort of seems like at times he's thinking three moves ahead at lightning speed, but when the ball isn't where it's supposed to be when he expects it to be there, he has to hit rewind and his hands aren't always in synch with the recalculations. Sort of a mental overload where time's still going forward while he has to mentally go backwards, while also physically still adjusting to what's happening around him. Because he's so sudden/explosive, it can be hard to "slow down" when he's already made a move.
I think theoretically Shedeur's natural accuracy could limit the times he would need to recalculate. At the same time, I think his ability to get open quickly could limit Shedeur's issues when he holds the ball too long.
KC can stop quickly and will find the spots to sit down against zone. He just kind of has to have planned to stop.
I can't argue that accuracy should improve with Sanders over Marcel Reed. Reed was his QB for both of those high drop seasons... still..
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
The issues I have is that if this were a single season issue it wouldn't be as much of an concern. it also appears his drops weren't mainly highly contested balls it was more the garden variety that he simply just dropped by loss of concentration. One may think it was an anomaly if it weren't two seasons in a row. But from the information I have found his drop rate was actually fairly consistent from 2024 to 2025. Depending on the source it appears his drop rate in 2025 is estimated between 10.3% to 11.1%. In 2024 his drop rate ranged between 9.1% to 11.7%.
The thing that brings his drop rate down as much as it is for his college career is in 2023 he had a very low drop rate of 4.8%.
I'm not 100% sure of the accuracy of these stats but I'm pretty sure they're it's at least close to being accurate.
I side with PitDawg on this one. If you have that type of issue, there are ways to make a marked improvement year over year, he didn't from 2024 to 2025. That tells me either he didn't have good enough coaching, doesn't understand, or worse, he doesn't care. The last one is why I caution against him. There is no way to know until he shows up at camp. A first round bargain, I'm just not willing to risk.
The issues I have is that if this were a single season issue it wouldn't be as much of an concern. it also appears his drops weren't mainly highly contested balls it was more the garden variety that he simply just dropped by loss of concentration. One may think it was an anomaly if it weren't two seasons in a row. But from the information I have found his drop rate was actually fairly consistent from 2024 to 2025. Depending on the source it appears his drop rate in 2025 is estimated between 10.3% to 11.1%. In 2024 his drop rate ranged between 9.1% to 11.7%.
The thing that brings his drop rate down as much as it is for his college career is in 2023 he had a very low drop rate of 4.8%.
I'm not 100% sure of the accuracy of these stats but I'm pretty sure they're it's at least close to being accurate.
I think honing in on one statistic loses sight of the bigger picture. Here's every target this season. The Auburn drop was bad, but how much good was there around it. The LSU drop not great, but he came right back and housed a punt. I like that the drops don't seem to linger. How many worm burners are in there? How many hospital balls? He makes contested catches. He makes acrobatic catches. He'll make catches where he knows he's going to be lit up. He finishes plays. He makes people miss.
I'm not going to completely dismiss the drops, but I think the good far outweighs them, and he fits the profile of what I believe the offense is really missing. Plus, he's just a football player. He's got that dog in him so to speak. He reminds me of Antonio Brown.
You can focus on the drops. I tend to put a bit more weight on the other ~90% of his tape. As far as anomaly or not, 2 seasons in a row isn't really a whole lot of data.
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There are a lot of good catches to watch. I have only watched 3 or 4 minutes. Some of the drops are really not on the WR but they are still drops. Maybe I will watch more - he doesn't look like a burner when he is running as it's pretty effortless and he is very shifty, the idea that he will get open and run good routes in the NFL seems well founded.
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