Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,915
Dawg Talker
OP Offline
Dawg Talker
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,915
I didn’t see a thread for Taylen, so here we go







Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,915
Dawg Talker
OP Offline
Dawg Talker
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 1,915





Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 79,317
P
Legend
Offline
Legend
P
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 79,317
He seems like the perfect type of QB to run in the Wildcat formation. He is nowhere close to what you would want as a starting NFL QB at this point in time and his int. total should tell people that.

But as of now he would be prefect in the Wildcat. How much he improves from there moving forward is anyone's guess.


Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.

#gmstrong
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 16,419
M
Legend
Offline
Legend
M
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 16,419
Dan Brugler's write-up on Green...

BACKGROUND
Taylen Green, the middle child of three in his family, was born and raised in the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex by his parents (Quinton
and Latrice). Quinton played basketball at Collin College (north of Dallas). Taylen’s older sister (Nyah) was a McDonald’s All-American
basketball player in high school and one of the top recruits in the country (she started receiving scholarship offers in sixth grade). After
signing with Louisville (2019-20), Nyah transferred to Duke (2021-22).

While growing up in a basketball family, Taylen Green developed his competitiveness by going against his sister (who is 20 months
older) on the court. After eighth grade, Green gave up basketball to focus on his football career. Green and his fiancée (Analisse Batista),
who runs track for the Razorbacks, were engaged in June 2025.

Green started his prep career at Allen High School, a powerhouse program that’s produced quarterback Kyler Murray and dozens of
other NFL players. He started to get attention as a recruit before high school and was invited to Regional Elite 11 as a 150-pound
freshman. However, Green found himself blocked on Allen’s depth chart for two years, and he transferred to Lewisville High School
prior to his junior year. He became the starting quarterback on varsity and helped lead Lewisville to a 7-4 record, including a close loss
to bitter rival Marcus High (led by quarterback Garrett Nussmeier). Green finished his junior season with 2,217 passing yards, 445
rushing yards and 37 total touchdowns (25 passing, 12 rushing). As a senior captain, he led Lewisville back to the 6A state playoffs and
finished with 2,431 passing yards, 653 rushing yards and 29 total touchdowns (22 passing, nine rushing). He shared a backfield at
Lewisville with running back Damien Martinez, a 2025 NFL Draft pick of the Seattle Seahawks. Green also lettered in track (jumps and
relays). He set a school record in the long jump (23 feet 5 inches) and had personal bests of 44-3.5 in the triple jump and 55.02 seconds
in the 400-meter dash.

A three-star recruit, Green was the 79th-ranked quarterback in the 2021 class and the No. 185 recruit in Texas. Before he’d even become
a varsity starter, he received his first FCS scholarship offer (Illinois State). His recruitment picked up after he transferred to Lewisville
and earned a starting job, as he received offers from FBS schools including San Diego State, Rice, UTEP, New Mexico State and Central
Michigan. The summer before his senior year, Green had a final three of Boise State, San Diego State and Wyoming, and he committed
to the Broncos in July 2020. He was the third-ranked recruit in former head coach Andy Avalos’ first recruiting class at Boise State.
After redshirting in 2021, Green led Boise State to the 2022 Mountain West championship game and was named the conference’s
Freshman of the Year. However, his 2023 season was inconsistent, and he lost some playing time to Maddux Madsen. Despite having a
strong finish to his sophomore season, Green was looking for a change of scenery and entered the transfer portal in December 2023. He
considered Baylor, LSU, Miami, Michigan State and others before committing to Arkansas, a program he had visited (but from which he
didn’t receive an offer) during the high school recruiting process.

Green accepted an invitation to the Senior Bowl.

STRENGTHS
● Tall, with a muscular upper body; freely carries his 225 pounds
● True dual-threat, because of his mobility and tight spiral
● Dangerous on QB draws/options, with high success rate as a scrambler on money downs
● Routinely created explosives on the ground (73 carries of 10-plus yards over past two seasons)
● Big body leaves would-be tacklers falling off him in the pocket and in space
● Slides inside and outside of pocket to buy time and throw on the move
● Can make every throw with velocity
● Aggressive passer who will challenge safeties when given the chance
● Voted a team captain in 2025 and carries himself the right way (NFL scout: “Always laughing and really sharp. … [He] wants to
motivate you.”)
● Durable and tough — refuses to come off the field
● First player in school history with 300 yards passing and 100 yards rushing in a single game

WEAKNESSES
● Long body type, with thin lower half
● Funky, long delivery (too many batted passes for a player his size)
● Late getting to backside dig — needs to eliminate things more quickly in his reads
● Doesn’t throw with a ton of anticipation; late to locate lurkers
● Inconsistent mechanics and weight transfer go hand-in-hand with streaky ball placement
● Too willing to throw into traffic and needs to take better care of the football
● Didn’t show much improvement with pocket presence between junior and senior tape
● More likely to work backward or roll out than climb in pocket

SUMMARY
A two-year starter at Arkansas (and four-year starter overall), Green was a dual-threat quarterback in former offensive coordinator
Bobby Petrino’s balanced, spread scheme. After three years at Boise State, he blossomed in Fayetteville and in 2025 ranked No. 3 in the
SEC in total yards per game (290.9). He has been one of the most productive quarterbacks in college football — over the past two
seasons, he ranked No. 1 in the FBS in plays of 10-plus yards (315) and 20-plus yards (109).

One of the most physically gifted players in the 2026 draft class (at any position), Green is big, athletic and competes with NFL-required
toughness. He is a playmaker outside the pocket (with both his arm and legs), and his highlight package is full of “wow” moments.
However, he is inconsistent working through his reads, and you hold your breath every time he throws over the middle. He takes too
many unnecessary chances — he committed a combined 37 turnovers the past two seasons (20 interceptions, 17 fumbles). Overall,
Green needs to take better care of the football and refine his mechanics and passing rhythm, but he offers the
physical traits and high character worth molding in a read-option, vertical passing game.

Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,571
A
Dawg Talker
Offline
Dawg Talker
A
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,571
Fun to watch.. Browns QB Taylen Green | Gruden's QB Class

Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 14,434
O
Legend
Offline
Legend
O
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 14,434
Gruden turned up to 11 is way too much. Normal Gruden is almost too much.


"FIALURE IS NOT AN OPTION...!"

-mac
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 40,434
B
Legend
Offline
Legend
B
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 40,434
I would look to see if the guy can catch the ball. He has Calvin Johnson type physical traits. From a Browns perspective, think Josh Gordon.
Six foot five, 230 lbs, 4.35 speed.

He would need nearly as much development at the QB position as he would at WR....assuming he can catch. I would explore the possibilities of a position change.


If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.

GM Strong




[Linked Image]
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 17,425
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 17,425
Green like Lamar was asked.

"I am a quarterback."

Berry "he is a quarterback."

There will be no position change.

There will be packages that feature a mobile quarterback based upon situations.

He is a developmental QB who most likely will be on the practice squad his first year.

Next year decisions will be made on SS, DW and DG. Green will be a developmental QB again. He may become a primary backup.

That of course depends upon him and how he improves.


Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 14,434
O
Legend
Offline
Legend
O
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 14,434
If he worked himself into a Taysom Hill type role, that would be fine and dandy.


"FIALURE IS NOT AN OPTION...!"

-mac
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 804
All Pro
Offline
All Pro
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 804
Originally Posted by oobernoober
If he worked himself into a Taysom Hill type role, that would be fine and dandy.

So what most of us have been saying, goal line/short yardage role.

He can do that as a backup QB, he doesn't have to change to a WR to do that.

Taysom Hill didn't even start to do receiver drills until his 3rd season in the NFL. They exhausted his usefulness as a QB, THEN started to utilize him in different ways. Let's give him a chance before burning his QB career. He hasn't even had a mini-camp yet.

This isn't directed at you oober, even though I quoted your post.. it is for all those calling for a position change before he gets fitted for a uniform with a QB number on it. I know you aren't doing that.

Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 17,425
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 17,425
Green played quarterback for a lot of games.

5,868 passing yards, 34 passing touchdowns, and 16 rushing touchdowns. In his final 2025 season at Arkansas, he passed for 2,714 yards and 19 touchdowns while rushing for 777 yards.

People are acting like this guy can't throw.

I don't get it.

What he needs to do is work on speeding up his overall mechanics.

Like any quarterback coming into the NFL he has a list of things to improve.

What is uncoachable and what he can do. Nobody else can.

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,869
BpG Offline
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 9,869
I mean is this guy going to pass waivers to the practice squad? Not if he looks good at all.


Honestly, I don't see it in Shedeur. I'd rather just run the Lamar offense with this guy, run the ball at a record setting level, 15 passes a game. We have the defense for ball control offense.

Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,851
H
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
H
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,851
I mentioned Taylen becoming a WR, but it was just a thought. I would rather see us develop him into a starting QB. His skills are off the chart. You could make some plays where he occasionally catches the ball and let him use his speed but then you might be risking injury. I'll be anxious to see what he can do.

Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 7,121
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 7,121
Originally Posted by BpG
I mean is this guy going to pass waivers to the practice squad? Not if he looks good at all.


... just run the Lamar offense with this guy

Indeed! I'm hoping to see Lamar 2.0 from TG...


When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers...Socrates
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 5,173
R
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
R
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 5,173
I honestly think Green is the steal of the draft and by the time Sanders is wanting Legendary money Green will be ready to step in. Green is by far the most physically gifted QB from this draft and it's not even close. The problems with his throwing motion and footwork are completely fixable. A super high character young man who knows how to keep his mouth shut. Green is going to make Sanders sweat a LOT.


You can't fix stupid but you can destroy ignorance. When you destroy ignorance you remove the justifications for evil. If you want to destroy evil then educate our people. Hate is a tool of the stupid to deal with what they can't understand.
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,271
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,271
Any word on Green from OTA's? I already like what I have heard about him. What have we seen since he signed on? SS or Lamar 2.0? I can't see him making the PS, do you? I like the measurables reported. I really don't think we can survive much bad breaks with these four. Green seems full of promise, worth developing. I like his stats; that is enough for now.


"Every responsibility implies opportunity, and every opportunity implies responsibility." Otis Allen Glazebrook, 1880
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 79,317
P
Legend
Offline
Legend
P
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 79,317
Yes, that's why every NFL team passed on him 5 times and some six times. Because "Green is the steal of the draft".

Let me guess. Tom Brady and Josh Purdy? Yes, Berry landed as once in a generation find! Just remember, neither of them appeared to be "the most physically gifted QB from this draft."


Browns fans always seem to think this team is getting a Ferrari at VW Bug prices.

People were saying the same thing about Sanders at this point last season. It seems some have already turned the page and repeating the exact same process they found themselves in last year at this point.


Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.

#gmstrong
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 9,555
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 9,555
Originally Posted by Razorthorns
I honestly think Green is the steal of the draft and by the time Sanders is wanting Legendary money Green will be ready to step in. Green is by far the most physically gifted QB from this draft and it's not even close. The problems with his throwing motion and footwork are completely fixable. A super high character young man who knows how to keep his mouth shut. Green is going to make Sanders sweat a LOT.

Sanders doesn't sweat, that's his Legendary Essence leaking from his pores.


I don't know what to make of Green. How much of the "issues" at Arkansas were him and how much were the rest of the team is hard to separate. He lost his top 6 WRs before this last season. His most productive WR was (transfer) O'Mega Blake. With a name like that, I'd have heard of him if he was good sometime during the draft process as I was going pretty deep at WR. (He went undrafted, may have gotten rookie camp tryout offers.) The Arkansas defense was one of the worst in all of FBS last season.

I'm hopeful Green turns into something, but we'll see.


[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]
You mess with the "Bull," you get the horns.
Fiercely Independent.
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 17,425
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 17,425
Green is the type of QB prospect you want to take a swing at.

He is a 6th round guy with big time tools.

He needs to develop as a pocket decision maker and sharpen his mechanics.

He has no pressure really because at this point he is not in the picture to play meaningful time as a starter.

You chart a development program for him and see how it goes.

I like the young man and think he was a good draft selection where he was selected.

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 40,434
B
Legend
Offline
Legend
B
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 40,434
Originally Posted by Razorthorns
I honestly think Green is the steal of the draft and by the time Sanders is wanting Legendary money Green will be ready to step in. Green is by far the most physically gifted QB from this draft and it's not even close. The problems with his throwing motion and footwork are completely fixable. A super high character young man who knows how to keep his mouth shut. Green is going to make Sanders sweat a LOT.

You might be able to fix them at best. The problem is a college coach has no incentive to try to develop a player for the NFL. You take what the player offers and go with that, so we will see.

IMO I would see if he can catch. If so, it will be easier to turn him in to a great player at the receiver position. It's easier to teach that than the QB position. I know a few on here have said he has said he will be a QB and nothing else. He has also said he is here to do whatever it take to help the team win.

I don't care what he has said. Now that he is being paid by an NFL team, I think he will seek to continue to be paid even if the team switches his position.


If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.

GM Strong




[Linked Image]
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 9,555
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 9,555
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Originally Posted by Razorthorns
I honestly think Green is the steal of the draft and by the time Sanders is wanting Legendary money Green will be ready to step in. Green is by far the most physically gifted QB from this draft and it's not even close. The problems with his throwing motion and footwork are completely fixable. A super high character young man who knows how to keep his mouth shut. Green is going to make Sanders sweat a LOT.

You might be able to fix them at best. The problem is a college coach has no incentive to try to develop a player for the NFL. You take what the player offers and go with that, so we will see.

IMO I would see if he can catch. If so, it will be easier to turn him in to a great player at the receiver position. It's easier to teach that than the QB position. I know a few on here have said he has said he will be a QB and nothing else. He has also said he is here to do whatever it take to help the team win.

I don't care what he has said. Now that he is being paid by an NFL team, I think he will seek to continue to be paid even if the team switches his position.

I don't see the team switching him from a position we don't have good players at to a position that we (theoretically) do now.

Not only is the going to be coached by Monken parallel there to Lamar. There's also the coached by Petrino in college. People thought Lamar should change positions. I think Green is a better QB than some give credit. He might have had better stock if he had transferred to a better team, but I think he wanted to be coached by the guy that coached Lamar. I think having generally played on the less talented team on the field last year in some ways helped his development. He had to work on craft instead of just chucking it to wide open WRs that were out athleting opponents. His WRs were the ones getting out athleted. His top WR was a 4.66 40 "deep threat" guy.

He's not exactly the same as Lamar. He's much more linear, so we'll see how that translates.

I don't see him translating as a WR. His long legs aren't built for getting in and out of breaks or quickly stopping momentum. Maybe his body type would work as a deep threat in theory, but finding/tracking the ball late and over the shoulder bucket catches aren't really things that come naturally if you don't start early. Against the greatest athletes in the world probably isn't the time to try to develop a completely new skill.


[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]
You mess with the "Bull," you get the horns.
Fiercely Independent.
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 804
All Pro
Offline
All Pro
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 804
Originally Posted by Ballpeen
Originally Posted by Razorthorns
I honestly think Green is the steal of the draft and by the time Sanders is wanting Legendary money Green will be ready to step in. Green is by far the most physically gifted QB from this draft and it's not even close. The problems with his throwing motion and footwork are completely fixable. A super high character young man who knows how to keep his mouth shut. Green is going to make Sanders sweat a LOT.

You might be able to fix them at best. The problem is a college coach has no incentive to try to develop a player for the NFL. You take what the player offers and go with that, so we will see.

IMO I would see if he can catch. If so, it will be easier to turn him in to a great player at the receiver position. It's easier to teach that than the QB position. I know a few on here have said he has said he will be a QB and nothing else. He has also said he is here to do whatever it take to help the team win.

I don't care what he has said. Now that he is being paid by an NFL team, I think he will seek to continue to be paid even if the team switches his position.

I have some questions for you.

If a player can't be coached up and fix some issues within the position he has played his whole life, why do you think it would be so easy to turn him into something he isn't?

What makes teaching receiver easier than teaching QB?

How is it that an athlete in college that has been very successful at receiver, comes into the NFL and all of a sudden has very little success? Why are the top athletes at THAT position at the combine, not the top WRs in the NFL?

Being a top professional athlete has as much to do about their psyche as it does their physical and intelligence. What you are asking the team to do is blow up his psyche by telling him he isn't good enough, before he even gets the chance to see what he has. I just don't get it....

Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 17,425
Legend
Offline
Legend
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 17,425
He was drafted as a developmental quarterback.

Monken and Berry made it clear he is not going to be a receiver or any other position.

They have a plan for him. They will work that plan.

Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 804
All Pro
Offline
All Pro
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 804
Originally Posted by bonefish
He was drafted as a developmental quarterback.

Monken and Berry made it clear he is not going to be a receiver or any other position.

They have a plan for him. They will work that plan.

Agree 100%. Let HIM show you what he is. Once he gets to this level, the exposure will let him know internally whether or not he believes if success is achievable. Give it a year, maybe two if the proper progress is made. This is a 6th round pick, he can develop a new position when/if he fails at this one, not because he has similar traits in shorts as one of the greatest to ever play WR.

Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,851
H
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
H
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,851
We drafted Taylen in the 6th round. Very little investment with solid potential. Give him whatever time he needs to develop. He can be our 3rd stringer for the next 3-4 years if need be. With his physical attributes he's an intriguing prospect.

Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 14,434
O
Legend
Offline
Legend
O
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 14,434
Originally Posted by Razorthorns
I honestly think Green is the steal of the draft and by the time Sanders is wanting Legendary money Green will be ready to step in. Green is by far the most physically gifted QB from this draft and it's not even close. The problems with his throwing motion and footwork are completely fixable. A super high character young man who knows how to keep his mouth shut. Green is going to make Sanders sweat a LOT.

The other thing on some of his draft reports were his eyes being in the wrong spot. Being able to execute within the offense is going to be what I'm watching closest when it comes to him. Mechanics can come with enough drilling, but being able to see/process what he needs to to make the right throw is going to be the main decider on where his career goes.


"FIALURE IS NOT AN OPTION...!"

-mac
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 79,317
P
Legend
Offline
Legend
P
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 79,317
I don't think giving a 6th round QB 3-4 years to develop, unless he is making great progress, is in the cards. Potential simply isn't enough. Look at the current situation. There are three project QB's on the current roster. Are you suggesting that Sanders will end up being our #2 QB after they actually draft a potential franchise QB? Or that Green will supplant Sanders?

All three of the current QB's in house, other than Watson, are nothing more than shots in the dark. As it pertains to the future I think if they follow the NFL model, they will have a first round draft pick selected that will be the starter with a veteran backup to help with his development and insure the team not totally collapse if the starter is injured. The you have may have a Sanders/Green type as your third QB. So would that be Sanders or Green? It can't be both if either by that time.

History dictates all of the projects on the current roster are in very short windows.


Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.

#gmstrong
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 804
All Pro
Offline
All Pro
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 804
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
I don't think giving a 6th round QB 3-4 years to develop, unless he is making great progress, is in the cards. Potential simply isn't enough. Look at the current situation. There are three project QB's on the current roster. Are you suggesting that Sanders will end up being our #2 QB after they actually draft a potential franchise QB? Or that Green will supplant Sanders?

All three of the current QB's in house, other than Watson, are nothing more than shots in the dark. As it pertains to the future I think if they follow the NFL model, they will have a first round draft pick selected that will be the starter with a veteran backup to help with his development and insure the team not totally collapse if the starter is injured. The you have may have a Sanders/Green type as your third QB. So would that be Sanders or Green? It can't be both if either by that time.

History dictates all of the projects on the current roster are in very short windows.

The short answer is...Green would remain, Sanders will be gone.

THIS is Sanders opportunity to become the Browns QB. If this offense fails miserably enough that the Browns are able to get a first round QB in 2027, then the QB flips upside down. I think it is a very real possibility that Green would be the odd man standing come 2027.

1) Watson is gone after this season, so that is one down
2) Gabriel, I believe, is the odd man out right now. Monken mentioned yesterday that they have to add additional steps to every workout to accommodate the fact he is a lefty. I don't think he is a fan
3) Most importantly, If they invest a first round pick on a QB, it is because they believe he is the future of the franchise. Sanders will be replaced by a veteran to help him develop, just as you mentioned above.

None of these points change the fact that in today's NFL, teams are carrying (3) QBs because of the new rule with the emergency QB. Green is developmental, but in an emergency situation, I'm sure they could package enough plays to get them through one to two weeks until they find a veteran replacement if the other two are long term injuries. Green as a developmental player makes more sense than Sanders, if they spend a first round pick on a QB in 2027.

It's more a numbers game. Green is a quintessential development QB. Sanders was drafted as one, but because of situation, he is being judged RIGHT NOW, not in 3 years as a starter level. Fair or not, Sanders time for judgement is at hand. Monken didn't draft Sanders, he has no ties to him. Monken wasn't here when the trade for Watson happened, he has no ties to him. He is in the room when Green's name is written down. He has more invested time into Green at this point than any other QB on the roster.

No one cares if Green is stuck down in 3rd position developing, no one is going to question that, even ownership... However, Sanders time as a starter and now subsequent starter battle moves him into a different category. If he loses now, he loses his future with the Browns in my opinion. The veteran in 2026 is Watson... There will be another veteran in 2027, that isn't Sanders... unless he becomes a proven QB in 2026, then this is a moot point.

Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 14,434
O
Legend
Offline
Legend
O
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 14,434
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
I don't think giving a 6th round QB 3-4 years to develop, unless he is making great progress, is in the cards.

Progress or not, you KNOW he's going to start multiple games sometime this season.


"FIALURE IS NOT AN OPTION...!"

-mac
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 79,317
P
Legend
Offline
Legend
P
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 79,317
That's a very fanciful story but would be a very unusual story to come true given the history of the league. Few QB's which are such a late round pick are giver 3-4 years to develop.

I'm just looking at the logical outcome rather than the fanciful one.


Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.

#gmstrong
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,851
H
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
H
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,851
If Shedeur becomes our franchise QB great and I hope he does. However, if he doesn't and we have to draft a QB next year what I would do is this. Watson will be gone, trade Shedeur, because then he would become a distraction IMO, and sign a Vet. If whomever we draft isn't ready start the vet and have the rookie and Green at 2 and 3. Green at 3rd string isn't a bad option with a year under his belt. With his physical attributes Green is worth keeping around for a few years. JMO

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 79,317
P
Legend
Offline
Legend
P
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 79,317
Originally Posted by oobernoober
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
I don't think giving a 6th round QB 3-4 years to develop, unless he is making great progress, is in the cards.

Progress or not, you KNOW he's going to start multiple games sometime this season.

If both watson and Sanders are injured at the same time I wouldn't bet against it. And the odds of it happening with the Browns seems higher than on most teams given the history of the Browns QB situation. And if that happens it may help quiet some of these unrealistic expectations.


Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.

#gmstrong
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 359
1st String
Offline
1st String
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 359
Let's not forget the supplemental draft and Brendan Sorsby --- just sayin'

Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 9,555
Hall of Famer
Offline
Hall of Famer
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 9,555
Originally Posted by oobernoober
The other thing on some of his draft reports were his eyes being in the wrong spot. Being able to execute within the offense is going to be what I'm watching closest when it comes to him. Mechanics can come with enough drilling, but being able to see/process what he needs to to make the right throw is going to be the main decider on where his career goes.

I don't doubt some reports said it, but I'm not really sure that's what it is or perhaps they mean something different by it than what I generally take as the meaning of the phrase. I think some people see an open target and assume that's where he should be looking. The read/progression doesn't always work that way, though.

I would say he could definitely improve at looking off coverage and reading/interpreting underneath coverage, but I don't think looking in the wrong spot is necessarily the issue.

I agree processing is make or break at this level. On the plus side, his athleticism can provide a threat that can lead to "breakdowns" defensively which can somewhat make the processing easier. I.e, if someone comes up in run support for him, throwing into the void they leave is relatively simple from a cognitive load standpoint. The bigger the spaces, the less precise the calculations have to be. It looks like we have the weapons to create lots of stretch now. Whether the OL can hold up long enough to give the guy at QB time for things to stretch, we'll see.

I think how willing Monken is to use Green's legs, and really design the/an offense/package around his abilities, to try to dictate to defenses what they can do is a pretty big factor in how this works out. If they try to make him Peyton Manning, it's probably not going to work.


[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]
You mess with the "Bull," you get the horns.
Fiercely Independent.
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 804
All Pro
Offline
All Pro
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 804
I keep telling myself, don't communicate with him, he's never going to change, but I'm a glutton for punishment. Most things that come off your keyboard are only logical to one person, yet you argue them as if someone else actually agrees with you. That isn't logical, it's nonsensical.

Logically, if this team is going to invest in a 3rd string developmental QB, it's the one that the current coaching staff brought into the mix, not one that was from the previous regime. It's the true meaning of logical..

Fanciful is saying there is another QB that was undrafted, but invited by another team to their offseason program and somehow making it seem like a viable option to have him as your 3rd string emergency QB for the upcoming season.

Sometimes I wonder if you even know the meaning of some of the words you use... was it on toilet paper word of the day?

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 79,317
P
Legend
Offline
Legend
P
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 79,317
Go take a long look at the odds and stats then explain how that take isn't fanciful.

Fanciful describes ideas, appearances, or stories that are born from the imagination rather than reason or reality

Now you might argue the imagination part which may be somewhat debatable. But the stats and odds certainly dictate the rest of the definition of fanciful certainly applies.

I get it. People want what they hope for to become the reality and when they get faced by those who try to ground things in reality they somehow find that objectionable.

Look at the stats for QB's drafted in the 6th round rather than trying to create some made up scenario that isn't applicable here. I didn't create the history on the odds of success nor how long teams keep a sixth round QB draft pick on average.

I'm sorry that you feel some need to attack the messenger rather than debate the facts. If you're having trouble comprehending the vocabulary I'm using that's a you issue. None if it goes beyond the basics. Sorry you had trouble keeping up.


Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.

#gmstrong
DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk NFL Draft 2026 Pick #182 Arkansas QB Taylen Green

Link Copied to Clipboard
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5