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Now, land the QB in next year's draft or the last several seasons and this one will have been a total waste and disaster from the moment Watson was signed.
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There had been too much smoke the last couple of weeks......
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So, the Browns young defense now has the 2024 defensive rookie of the year Jared Verse and the 2025 defensive rookie of the year Carson Schwesinger. I like Verse and a 2027 but still would like to know what other picks were included in this trade.
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2027 pick, probably 25 or higher isn't that great of an asset. The Rams are likely finish with a great record and deep PO run. Not sure if this helps us get a QB. Better hope SS figures it out quickly.
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Well, I just wasted a lot of time on a post in the other thread...
On the surface this is a pretty good trade. I am curious what the "other draft compensation" is.
Jared Verse is a viable replacement for an aging Myles. Myles has another couple of stud years in him, but then what? This team is getting themselves propped up for the opening of their new stadium. Verse is more likely to be in his prime when they move 15 miles south than Myles will be.
The most important aspect of this trade is setting themselves up for draft currency to try to get one of the QBs coming out next year. I think this is a telling sign that Monken is not convinced Shedeur Sanders is the QB of the future. He is going to start Watson and Watson will be gone in the 2027 off season. Then the Browns can get another comp draft pick when Watson leaves.
Right now, it comes down to how far down the Browns first pick is. If they are picking top 10, they will have the ammunition to move up to get their guy. If they are picking below 15, it is going to be difficult due to the number of teams needing QBs.
Here's the thing. The best player coming out will probably be Jeremiah Smith.. However, there will be as many as 5 QBs with a top 15 grade on them, which will elevate them all to top 5 draft status. Think about the prospects of a Browns team picking 6th, just outside those parameters. Now, think about a top 5 team that already has their QB of the immediate future in place... They could pick up the Browns pick, the Rams first and probably the Browns 2028 first also and still get Jeremiah Smith.
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Yes, the complete details of this trade will be interesting to see.
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Ugh.... The "additional compensation" better include another first or multiple 2nd/3rd picks. This guy is the cornerstone of our D, and a lot of our defensive success is because of the attention he commands. I'm also reading that the Rams' base scheme is a 3-4. I'll let someone more informed on the topic expand on that, though. I do like that we got a plus-level starter in return. That mitigates the usual "now we have to burn much of the draft haul we got to replace the guy we just shipped out". Plus Verse is younger. If we were going to do something like this (ship a vet to stock up on draft ammo to speed up on reloading offensive talent), then our Dline roster was best equipped to handle a blow like this.
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WOW!
Even though I thought it was possible.
I am shocked for real.
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Good trade . How many games did the Browns win with Myles Garrett? 54? Not exactly a locker room leader. I bet Eotab is melting down now
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Good trade . How many games did the Browns win with Myles Garrett? 54? Not exactly a locker room leader. I bet Eotab is melting down now Good trade for other teams in the AFCN.
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I'm shocked!! My phone blew up with texts from all my friends!! I'm very interested to see what other draft picks we received.
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Guaranteed J-Dubs is on the phone ordering farewell dinosaur cupcakes and a T-Rex bouncy house for Garrett's Farewell Party.
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How can you say it was a good trade without first knowing the details of the trade?
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Guaranteed J-Dubs is on the phone ordering farewell dinosaur cupcakes and a T-Rex bouncy house for Garrett's Farewell Party. I could use some dude wipes right about now.
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Ugh.... The "additional compensation" better include another first or multiple 2nd/3rd picks. This guy is the cornerstone of our D, and a lot of our defensive success is because of the attention he commands. I'm also reading that the Rams' base scheme is a 3-4. I'll let someone more informed on the topic expand on that, though. I do like that we got a plus-level starter in return. That mitigates the usual "now we have to burn much of the draft haul we got to replace the guy we just shipped out". Plus Verse is younger. If we were going to do something like this (ship a vet to stock up on draft ammo to speed up on reloading offensive talent), then our Dline roster was best equipped to handle a blow like this. Yes, the Rams play in the 3-4, but Jared Verse was playing out of position in that system at LB. He played the edge as a DE in college at Florida State. He will be returning to that role with the Browns, while Myles will have to switch to the 3-4 for the first time in his career, I believe. Gregg Williams ran some 3-4 during Myles first two seasons, but he switched back and forth a lot. All his other coordinators were base 4-3. Shula's defense will benefit from Garrett's ability to line up anywhere. This will allow him to use his dime packages more effectively. Overall, Garrett wins because he is going to a contender. The Browns are building for the new stadium opening, not 2026. Verse will be right in line to help open it properly.
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Yes, the Rams play in the 3-4, but Jared Verse was playing out of position in that system at LB. He played the edge as a DE in college at Florida State. He will be returning to that role with the Browns [...] Thank you for the added info! So Verse earned himself DROY and PB honors while playing out of position?
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Colin Cowherd just said we are also getting a 2nd in 2028 and a 3rd in 2029.
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Hard to believe that at least one of the picks isn't a 5th rounder 
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The "Other" is a 2028 2nd rounder and a 2029 3rd rounder..
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WOW!
Even though I thought it was possible.
I am shocked for real.
Honestly. Are you surprised?
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I think all in all it's a good deal for us. Now we have lots of draft capitol to maneuver in 2027 and a good young player in Verse to boot.
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[quote][Jared Verse, a 2027 first-round draft pick and other draft compensation that is still being negotiated, sources told NFL Network's Ian Rapoport and Tom Pelissero and ESPN's Adam Schefter./quote]
Not enough from the Rams..!!
The Rams 2027 first round pick will likely be closer to a 2nd round pick than a first round pick.
The Rams are closer to drafting at number 30 to 32 in 2027 which equals a high 2nd round pick rather than a 1st round pick that will be the bannered propaganda fed to the Browns fans and Browns media by Berry and Haslam. Not nearly a trade that is fair and equal for a player of Myles caliber.
The Rams will be giving up a #19 first round (Jared Verse value) and a late 1st round pick in 2027...NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
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Those draft picks are going to be very late 2027 1st rd, very late 2028 2nd round and very late 2029 third round. Better start working on trade up packages for a QB next year.
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At this point, might as well see what you can get for Denzel.
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I hope there is more.
Rams first and a player who has 14 career sacks. The Rams are on the track to win a Super Bowl.
First rounder is pick 32 or close.
So that pick is going to get us to the top pick QB in 2027?
Right now I am not liking this. Berry traded for DW and now traded the best player in football.
How do we trade Myles if we cannot be sure to have the ammo to get the top QB in the draft.
Parsons brought more?
I just read this: The rest of the compensation includes a 2028 second-round pick and a 2029 third-round pick.
Not enough the way I see it. Not happy.
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Right now it may look that way, but you don't know how the season will play out. Stafford is older and has had some back issues and there may be other injuries although I hope not. We can also package those picks and move up. We have flexibility and a few options.
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So what in total did the Browns get from the Rams? How do you know it's a bad trade when you don't even know all of the details yet? Oh, never mind, I know.
I asked someone who said it was a good trade the same question.
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So, the Browns got Jared Verse, 2027 1st, 2028 2nd, and 2029 3rd.
I think there are 2 keys here. Will Jared Verse earn a 2nd contract with the Browns in a few years. If he is an all-pro DE that plays for the Browns for 10 years and the Browns either use the draft capitol to find their future franchise QB or use those picks to get 3 more starters that play for the Browns thru a 2nd contract. That will make this trade worth it. Anything short of that if the Rams win a Superbowl will be an "L" for the Browns.
I would expect this next season to end up being the last for Denzil Ward in a Browns uniform. I could see the Browns trading him at the trade deadline now to get more draft capital. They do have the makings of a nice young defense with Verse and Graham up front. Schwesinger at linebacker and hopefully EMW in the secondary. They need to keep Campbell that they have under contract for a few more years and resign Delpit after this season. That move might have just become easier freeing up Garrett cap space.
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Colin Cowherd just said we are also getting a 2nd in 2028 and a 3rd in 2029. Even harder to believe Cowhead got one right lol
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That's the thing about trades. At first it's how they look on paper and even that's subjective from person to person. Not everyone is going to see it the same way.
But who came out the winner and who came out the loser is determined by the end results.
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