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About that "magic bullet" amendment. . . . Any thoughts on it? I applauded the networks that refused to air the lies and repeated falsehoods. Continue to keep cutting him off.

Yeah you like corrupt elections. I do not like illegals voting's, early voting's, mail in ballots, etc... It is all cheating.

Then you should be happy and grateful corrupt elections aren't happening. Even the Heritage foundation who actually authored Project 2025 fell flat on their face when they tried to prove those exact same accusations.

I suppose you also bought it when trump told you, "They're eating the dogs! they're eating the cats! They're eating the pets!"

Trump told you to your face that smart people didn't like him and he also told you he thought most Americans were so stupid most of them didn't know the word dumb ended with a B. Yet you still believe his unsubstantiated BS. Some of you just never learn.

The elections have been corrupted plain and simple.

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Originally Posted by Day of the Dawg
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About that "magic bullet" amendment. . . . Any thoughts on it? I applauded the networks that refused to air the lies and repeated falsehoods. Continue to keep cutting him off.

Yeah you like corrupt elections. I do not like illegals voting's, early voting's, mail in ballots, etc... It is all cheating.

I don't like it either, and the fact that it's exceedingly rare that it happens makes me feel a little better.


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Originally Posted by Day of the Dawg
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Originally Posted by Day of the Dawg
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About that "magic bullet" amendment. . . . Any thoughts on it? I applauded the networks that refused to air the lies and repeated falsehoods. Continue to keep cutting him off.

Yeah you like corrupt elections. I do not like illegals voting's, early voting's, mail in ballots, etc... It is all cheating.

Then you should be happy and grateful corrupt elections aren't happening. Even the Heritage foundation who actually authored Project 2025 fell flat on their face when they tried to prove those exact same accusations.

I suppose you also bought it when trump told you, "They're eating the dogs! they're eating the cats! They're eating the pets!"

Trump told you to your face that smart people didn't like him and he also told you he thought most Americans were so stupid most of them didn't know the word dumb ended with a B. Yet you still believe his unsubstantiated BS. Some of you just never learn.

The elections have been corrupted plain and simple.

If we are talking about what's actually happening in reality (vs easily debunked narratives meant only to stir controversy), I would say that the moves to strip funding/staff to groups that were tasked with ensuring the integrity of our elections is something we should be worried about.


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Then where is your evidence? Do you believe in actual evidence based facts or what trump tells you and your "feelings"?

Here is what the most right wing source possible found. This was just prior to the 2024 election. You know the one trump won so of course there couldn't have possibly been any cheating, right?

These are the states trump often claims were "stolen" from him......

Arizona: Out of the last 36 elections held they found 36 cases of voter fraud.

Georgia: Out of the past 34 elections they found 24 cases of election fraud.

Michigan: Out of the last 26 elections they found 19 cases of voter fraud.

Nevada: Out of the last 14 elections they found 8 cases of voter fraud.

North Carolina: Out of the last 39 elections they found 58 cases of voter fraud.

Pennsylvania: Out of the last 32 elections they found 39 cases of voter fraud.

Wisconsin: Out of the last 28 elections they found 69 cases of voter fraud.

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/how-widespread-is-election-fraud-in-the-united-states-not-very/


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
Then where is your evidence? Do you believe in actual evidence based facts or what trump tells you and your "feelings"?

Here is what the most right wing source possible found. This was just prior to the 2024 election. You know the one trump won so of course there couldn't have possibly been any cheating, right?

These are the states trump often claims were "stolen" from him......

Arizona: Out of the last 36 elections held they found 36 cases of voter fraud.

Georgia: Out of the past 34 elections they found 24 cases of election fraud.

Michigan: Out of the last 26 elections they found 19 cases of voter fraud.

Nevada: Out of the last 14 elections they found 8 cases of voter fraud.

North Carolina: Out of the last 39 elections they found 58 cases of voter fraud.

Pennsylvania: Out of the last 32 elections they found 39 cases of voter fraud.

Wisconsin: Out of the last 28 elections they found 69 cases of voter fraud.

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/how-widespread-is-election-fraud-in-the-united-states-not-very/

Election integrity is a simple fix. Polls open at 6am and close at 7pm. Show up and show your ID and you vote, if you do not then you do not get to vote. If your out of town go to the courthouse and show your ID and get a mail in ballot. If you do not show your ID you do not get a ballot. Anything other than that is cheating!!!

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So in response to the evidence I've given you, your answer is to fix something that doesn't exist? To create more barriers and laws attempting to stop something that isn't happening? There is no need for a "simple fix" for something that isn't broken in the first place.

There is no mass voter fraud. One half to one and a half votes per election in states is not in any way deciding elections. See, that's the problem. Evidence doesn't matter to you. Facts do not matter to you. trump knows that and takes advantage of it while you play right along with it. Your "feelings" don't matter.


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Paraphrasing Republican Thomas Massie:

House of Representatives - Controlled by Republicans
Senate - Controlled by Republicans
White House - Republican

Why are Republicans talking about corrupt and rigged elections? crazy


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Wrong, DofD. I hate corrupt government. Ours now is the worst I have seen. I always vote. This illegal stuff is anti-democratic. We should require voting and lock up those who want to manipulate elections, disallow votes and voting, are ripe to forfeit office if they break their oath.

I did want discussion of the amendment for succession as a way to address a myriad of wrongdoing and actions crippling America. Our failure to mete out consequences has led to this horrible opinion of courts, politicians, this PINO, and lawyers. The amendment is simply self-defense for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness (there are other rights assured as well if you check on it). I have a high opinion of America and what it should be. Just wondering about you all.


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Originally Posted by PitDAWG
So in response to the evidence I've given you, your answer is to fix something that doesn't exist? To create more barriers and laws attempting to stop something that isn't happening? There is no need for a "simple fix" for something that isn't broken in the first place.

There is no mass voter fraud. One half to one and a half votes per election in states is not in any way deciding elections. See, that's the problem. Evidence doesn't matter to you. Facts do not matter to you. trump knows that and takes advantage of it while you play right along with it. Your "feelings" don't matter.

Early voting is voter fraud. Mail in ballots is voter fraud. No ID voting is voter fraud!!!!

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Originally Posted by Day of the Dawg
Early voting is voter fraud. Mail in ballots is voter fraud. No ID voting is voter fraud!!!!

Is that in the constitution?


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Originally Posted by Day of the Dawg
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
So in response to the evidence I've given you, your answer is to fix something that doesn't exist? To create more barriers and laws attempting to stop something that isn't happening? There is no need for a "simple fix" for something that isn't broken in the first place.

There is no mass voter fraud. One half to one and a half votes per election in states is not in any way deciding elections. See, that's the problem. Evidence doesn't matter to you. Facts do not matter to you. trump knows that and takes advantage of it while you play right along with it. Your "feelings" don't matter.

Early voting is voter fraud. Mail in ballots is voter fraud. No ID voting is voter fraud!!!!

The total lack of critical thinking that goes into making a post like this is astounding.

At worst, early voting, mail in voting, etc COULD allow for fraud. Generally, making a link between any of those types of things and fraud requires evidence. A complete lack of evidence calls into question the intention behind questioning election integrity where there is no actual reason to do so.


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Originally Posted by Day of the Dawg
Early voting is voter fraud. Mail in ballots is voter fraud.

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In a legal context, fraud is the intentional deception of another person to cause them financial or personal injury. Perpetrators use trickery or false information to gain an unlawful advantage. Victims typically suffer the loss of money, property, or legal rights.

Misrepresentation: The offender made a false statement of fact.

Knowledge of Falsity: The offender knew the statement was false when they made it.

Intent to Deceive: The offender intended the victim to rely on the false statement.

Justifiable Reliance: The victim reasonably believed the statement and acted upon it.

Millions upon millions of legal votes are cast in each presidential election through either mail in voting or early voting by registered, legal U.S. voters. Both are legal methods of voting. With early voting you go to a standard voting poll location and the exact same steps are taken as on election day. It seems you fail to grasp what the word fraud even means. It doesn't mean something you just made up in your brain. Maybe in your own little world but not to normal people.

Let me ask you something. The claim is there was cheating in the 2020 election and that's how Biden won. Trump was president in 2020 during that election. Trump was elected in both 2016 and 2024 when democrats were president. If democrats are that good at cheating why did they let trump win both times? And if there was cheating in 2020 to help Biden win was there no cheating in 2016 and 2024 to help trump win?

For God's sake think for a change man.


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