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#2141819 08/25/26 09:39 AM
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The reality IMO is that Browns fans are not excited at all to see DW or SS.

At this point all eyes are on the draft class.

Will there be a savior there? Will we draft a great prospect and he will come to a team ready to go with everything he needs to succeed?

Trevor Lawrence, Justin Herbert, Jayden Daniels, Bryce Young, Kyler Murray, Baker Mayfield, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, CJ Stroud, Daniel Jones, Sam Darnold, Cam Ward, Jared Goff, Deshaun Watson.

All of them were supposed to be saviors. Only Sam Darnold has won a Super Bowl.

A bunch of those quarterbacks are damn good. Some even MVP's.

I would trade the first pick in the draft for a number of those guys.

Even when you get the draft right. No guarantees you are going to win.

Here we sit with all our eggs in the coming draft. It is so hard to win a Super Bowl.

It takes so much. The quarterback gives you a chance, but damn a lot has to go right.

bonefish #2141849 08/25/26 02:22 PM
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Let's add Josh Allen to this list who was in the same draft class as Baker.

IMO, this is the real discussion, not Shadeur vs Watson. The current QB room has not shown itself to be capable of NFL winning caliber play. It's the Kobiashi Maru. I have zero confidence in any of the QBs when they step onto the field. They have no "it" factor; some of them show energy and mechanics, but I've not seen anyone who can step onto the field with a "let's go win this toughness." It's a circus of bad decisions and shortened drives. Imagine being an offensive player on the Browns who's contract is loaded with incentives and seeing whichever QB is pulling the trigger. They can't/won't say it, but they're not excited either.

How is it that the Browns have misfired on drafted QBs since 2015 (except Baker Mayfield)? Look at the list: Kessler, Kizer, Baker, DTR, Gabriel and Sanders. I'm still not sure that Sanders is getting a fair shake, or even if the Browns really want to develop him. Seems like another placeholder until the "next great QB" that Haslam has tunnel vision for.

I'm beginning to wonder if the Browns FO worst nightmare is that Sanders or Watson will play well enough to make the team look good, when a bad result is something they seem to have gone out of their way to orchestrate.

Just my two Lincolns...oh wait, they don't mint those anymore...

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