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My gut and head says you are correct on all fronts.... Browns Syndrome has me fearful of something worse.
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
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It was so obvious that the Browns were not in the same league as the Jags.
We were getting beat on damn near every play. I think they could have beaten us by 50. They called off the dogs. They could have run the score up if they wanted.
DW does not belong in the NFL anymore.
I was surprised at how bad the defense looked because outside of Myles there are a lot of returning players.
One way to look at this mess is winning seven games is not much better than winning 3.
If you are going to suck you might as well suck really bad.
This team is going to try. Monken is not going to lose on purpose. He doesn't need to. It will happen organically.
I was done at he half. Started to watch baseball.
Not sure we can look much worse as a team.
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Next day thoughts:
Probably should note that the Jags are pretty much returning nearly all starters from a team that went 13-4, won its last 8 regular season games (and 9 of 10) including blowouts over the chargers, broncos and colts before losing by 3 to the bills in the playoffs.
We were starting 2 rookie OL, a shell of a man at QB, and a new system for everyone. We sucked but it’s not the end of the world. Yes, we didn’t look prepared but I actually put that more on DW being rattled. He just wasn’t pulling the O together, he was losing his cool so the OL was losing it, etc.
We all know that DW is little more than a tackle dummy at this point until they feel they can set up SS for some modicum of success. I doubt we’ll be markedly better with SS but we won’t be much worse. We knew these first 2 games were the lemon suckers of the season. They’ll start to get more organized in these next few. I can almost guarantee we’ll look better against the bucs. I won’t say we’ll win, but we should respond positively. And if he/ we don’t, I can’t see them trotting DW out for the home opener.
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My take on the game. Yes we looked bad. I didn't think we would win but I didn't think we would look this bad. A new OL and coaches. Pretty much a new WR room. New System on O. New DC. New D system. No Myles but he wouldn't have been playing anyway with his injury. We have TOO MANY moving parts at this point so to speak. It's going to take some time. I believe TM was correct post-game when he said we will get better every week. Oh, and we have DW who I believe is no longer a starting NFL QB. I watched Jaxson Dart last night and it made me sick knowing we could have had him. Without DW and his contract and those 3#1's we gave up we might have had our FQB now.
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Fortunately, I had to cook at the VFW yesterday so I didn't get to see the crapfest,but I got constant updates.I have to say they were hilarious.There are 2 guys that I positively can't stand and they have been saying that Monkin is the perfect HC for this team.I agree,he's a blowhard of a coach that fits in well with Haslam and Berry.
You guys will make a hundred excuses,new this,new that,blah blah blah,but at the end of the day it's football.Yes,they were not prepared,but put the blame where it belongs,on the head of the blowhard.
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Probably should note that the Jags are pretty much returning nearly all starters from a team that went 13-4, won its last 8 regular season games (and 9 of 10) including blowouts over the chargers, broncos and colts before losing by 3 to the bills in the playoffs.
The Browns are one of the worst teams in the NFL and have been the bottom feeders of the AFC North in 2024 & 2025. For 2026, the Browns have a new coaching staff with a first time HC who is attempting to teach his young team a new offensive and defensive systems.
I expect the Browns to improve week to week but I don't expect many 'wins'.
In an effort to manage expectations I'm going to classify the 2026 Browns as being equal to an "expansion team" that is in the first year of a rebuild.
Judging the team week to week hoping to see improvement...
GM strong...
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I decided to watch Guardians also.....note, PFF grade out- our TWO ROOKIES on the line were among our best players....WOW. Conceptition had a fumble, knows what real games are like now. Watson, deer in the headlights, I'm for coaching up Green and making him the starter......Sanders holds ball too LOOOONNNGGGG just like Watson. Pray for us, we will need it.....GO Browns!!!
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In the 2025 draft the Giants and Browns had close to the same draft assets and team needs.
Once Cam Ward was selected. The Giants passed on the quarterbacks and selected Abdul Carter. They came back in the first round through a trade and at pick 25 drafted Dart.
We traded back and took Graham. Then took Carson and Q in the second.
Both teams passed on SS when they needed a quarterback.
We drafted some good players. The Giants just beat the Cowboys with Dart.
At this point in time we really cannot say how this will turn out. But the Giants and Browns made different choices.
When you need a quarterback all other choices take a back seat.
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