DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Palus Politicus Trump Jr.’s Private Bahamas Wedding Was Financed By A Russian Oligarch Close To Putin: ProPublica Nina Golgowski Mon, September 14, 2026 at

I should. You're rather toxic to me.

I stated facts; you stated fairy tales. And not enough of a spine to own up to it either. So yeah, business as usual.

And then using an AI pic with your hand on backwards.

They are liberal progressive/communists. They don't have spines. They have wishbones.

No my post was factual - in the early 1990's Trump was close to bankruptcy. He even claimed that himself - "At one point, I was worth minus $900 million." while saying his assets had fallen below his debts. And even for a known pathological liar, you don't make that claim unless you are/were in trouble. So fact 1.

Sure - I omitted to add "adjusted" or "in today's money" - but as I have said it's not uncommon. Or maybe you believe that the Dolan's payroll this year is more than Jacob's spent back in the 90's and think that's a valid comparison and argument?

And while you say Trump restructured loans to help save him - what do you call a loan from daddy that you don't pay back? And the number you claim - $90 million - seems way off even if old money. Your 'facts' are spurious at best.

And you have also failed to mention the factual sale of $100's millions of real estate to the Russians. Another FACT, not a wishbone.

But honestly it does not seem like you're not really interested in a conversation, it seems you want gotchas and to throw stones and say "typical dawgtalkers" without acknowledging your own attitude/contribution. . . . I'll repeat - if you're not worried about the Biden's making Bank - then I understand why your not worried about the financial affairs of Trump.

I don't conversate over make-believe bullpucky. I set it straight. Obviously, you still want to sidetrack the fact that NONE of that "bailed him out".

And then blame me for the course of the conversation.

Yes, I remember the meltdown it caused you to have in the past yet here you are again. But I suppose if that's the best you can come up with by using a term that a prison inmate tried to pass legislation on......

It seems the trump family cares enough about it to make public denials of any involvement and doing what they can to distance themselves from the situation.......

Donald Trump: President Trump stated he does not personally know Kremlev, has never heard of him, and noted that the funding covered a separate afterparty rather than the actual wedding ceremony.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...mlev-ties-putin-wedding-celeb-rcna597735

Eric Trump: A spokesperson for Eric Trump stated that he does not know Kremlev and has never heard his name.

https://abcnews.com/Politics/blanch...wedding-gift-trump-jr/story?id=136462728

Melania Trump has denied any involvement in or knowledge of the financial planning for Donald Trump Jr.’s recent wedding celebrations. Following an investigative report by ProPublica, a spokesperson stated that she played no role in organizing the event and was not privy to its finances.

https://abcnews.com/Politics/blanch...wedding-gift-trump-jr/story?id=136462728

Righteous anger towards a pathetic liar isn't a melt down. I'm sure you'll feel free to keep trying to paint things as you will. Even Jesus flipped tables on moneychangers at the temple. Some actions of people deserve to be castigated vigorously. I consider yours frequently to be those sorts of situations.

I suppose, to you, that's my god complex showing

Not everyone should be a sniveling lickspittle that tries to twist the truth, nor be willing to ignore it when someone else does.

I don't have to paint anything. You admitted it. Or did you forget? That's why you're being so defensive.


It it is hard not to get angry when you do that.


To turn a phrase of Lloyd Bentsen.... "I know Jesus. Jesus is a friend of mine. Sir, you are no Jesus."


No, just your superiority complex.


I agree 100%. You really need to stop doing that. It isn't attractive.

Step back off the ledge. I'm becoming more worried for you by the hour.

Liars do tend to get angry when called out for their lies.

You're the one that claims to believe in Jesus. I'm aware of his alleged actions, but no longer claim to be a follower/believer. My life would be much easier if I were still capable of that belief.

I can't help that I make you feel inferior.

Your problem seems to be that you don't recognize the truth. You only believe you do. I don't claim to know the truth of most things, but I can see your blatant lies.

Gas Lighting 101 - Just in case you don't already know, it's possible to identify someone's superiority complex without feeling inferior. In fact the very fact that you can spot it probably infers that one doesn't feel inferior.

Nothing about you could ever make me feel inferior. You are actually cheap entertainment for me at this point.

Having some grandiose delusion that you are superior doesn't make it so.

And you're the one that brought the example of Jesus into the discussion. Not me. But then again this isn't the first time and I doubt it will be the last that you tried to use examples and points to bolster your position that you yourself don't even believe are true.

You may be right. Pit probably does think that he's superior.

What I'm 100% sure of is that you're not. Just being average like myself is enough to deal with you. But good luck.

You seem to be quite familiar with grandiose delusions that aren't true. Being incapable of feeling inferior would seem to indicate you're the one with a superiority complex.

I don't feel that I'm categorically superior. All too often you are just flat out wrong, but can't seem to see it. It's not about inherent superiority, just different training and approaches. You are the one that seems to constantly try to compare us. I'm constantly annoyed by it.

I brought it up because you have claimed to believe it. Pointing out the seeming contradictions of your alleged beliefs contrasted to your arguments was the point. Your apparent inability to see the contradictions when you believe something is why it is seemingly impossible to have an "honest discussion" with you.

The fact you think that whenever I disagree with you somehow it's an indication that I'm " flat out wrong, but can't seem to see it" only proves my point. Thanks for your contribution and thanks for playing.

The rest of your rambling response is nothing more than word salad. I see you have decided to stop focusing on any part of the actual topic discussion and make it all 100% personal. At this point in the discussion I can't really say iIblame you. I mean when you have nothing else left.....

Your trying to claim things as fact that aren't facts is a prime example of your being wrong and seemingly not seeing it.

Nothing more than word salad is more of your BS. Your trying to minimize and dismiss things that point out your acting in bad faith is typical. Your posting about me without respect to the topic is fine, but my responding to your BS is somehow out of bounds? Your blatant hypocrisy says a lot about you.

I helped you with the math just so I can show you how stupid you sound.

I assumed you're a millionaire.

Can you be bribed for $24.28?

The thread was about a Trump Wedding, but then Pit decided to try to push the narrative that I keep company with child predators because that sort of crap is what he does. I found it pretty messed up, I'm not just going to let it slide by.

I wish the powers that be on this board would just boot that guy from this site. Just a toxic account/profile and a massive liability on here. So many people refrain from posting here because of him.

I do think calling it a bribe is probably a mischaracterization. Still a Russian apparatchik seemingly paying for access to an American political family does look problematic to me.

Of course you and some others do. That's your not so new MO. Silence those who disagree with you. The only people who "refrain from posting on here" because of me lack any sine. So do those who have me blocked. Then they turn around and sling trash like you just did. #spineless

That's an outright and blatant lie.

Your melt down is officially under way.

The Source of Funds: The money was routed through a Dubai-based entity linked to the International Boxing Association (IBA), which Kremlev leads and which has long been financed by the Russian state-owned energy company Gazprom.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/14/us/politics/donald-trump-jr-wedding-russian-businessman.html

The trump family put out unsolicited denials of knowing Umar Kremlev in an effort to distance themselves from the situation. Then it was found that Kremlev funneled the money through a third entity to try and disguise where those funds actually originated from.

Can't disagree, if we add plenty of rope to the word "problematic" and "access". I mean, the apparatus at work takes place a million times a day around the globe. It has for hundreds of years.

I think it's important to look at the scale. There's not a damned soul in the world thinking someone's buying favor with Mac because they gave him a $25 wedding gift, right?

That said, someone like Don Jr should be wise enough to turn down gifts of that nature and politely explain why. But who knows how any of this went down? I don't. Up to the point of reading your level-headed, non-hair-on-fire post, I knew few details.

Now, after doing a bit of a dive: It seems Don Jr and Kremlev have been friends for a few years. It's also established Kremlev is well connected, connected enough that accepting a gift of this nature would naturally be seen as bad judgment. What has not been established is the timeline... so let's toss out a few possibilities:

Kremlev → Don Jr., April 10:
“My friend, I will arrange island for your celebration.”

Is one thing.

Kremlev → Don Jr., April 10:
“My friend, I will arrange island for your celebration. Everything is my gift.”

Is another.

Don Jr. → Kremlev, May 15:
“Are you sure you're covering the island and fireworks?”

Sounds a little more like... "I'm sitting here with my dad, where's the money". Well, not really.


And that's my point; and my job here in "liberal hair on fire" Ville. I take it upon myself to point out the glaring inconsistencies.

Hunter's corrupt financial deals and web of shell companies didn't move the needle with anyone that posts here. Not a bit. They still actually deny any of it is true. Pages and pages of wire transfers to companies that did nothing but write checks to other companies. And the business partners that Joe never met? They had been to the White House numerous times. No one cares. "10% for the big guy"? Nah... that could have been anyone. They could and would explain away a Black Hole as a pinhole in a cloud.

So, on that scale... Kremlev would have to write a check for 15 BILLION for this to be the same as a $5 million dollar check from Chinese to a Biden family worth half that. And that was just one transaction.

There's not much meaningful conversation here. No one cares to put bias aside enough for that to exist. Most topics result in temper tantrums. I've gone from "whatever" to embracing my new role as Hypocrisy Czar. It's about the only way I can still accrue any entertainment value from this $h*tshow.


Great news though... we'll get to the bottom of all of this soon because there will be a Congressional Investigation!

Go Team!

Oh, look... we've got a bad ass over here! Big, tough internet guy penning big, tough internet posts!

The tough part seems to be how others wish to block anything they don't want to hear. I have enough spine to read all posters. If you think that makes me a tough guy I feel that makes your level of what you define as a tough guy pretty low. Come on FATE. We've been posting back and forth for a long time now. I'm sure you can do better than that weak BS.

Let the people decide. You posted this in a reply directed at me:


Telling a lie about something being a lie with the evidence sitting right there seems pathological.

Spine? Not sure how you equate "reading all posters" to having a spine. It's nobody's job or obligation to "enjoy" this forum the way you define their participation. There are a number of people that just see you as a "blowhard" that never has an inch of give and take with others' opinions. They see that because it's mostly true; at least in this section.

There are others that don't care to get tangled into endless debate over nonsense (usually something cherry-picked from previous replies that has no real bearing or impact on the actual discussion), because it inevitably leads to who can pen the last insult. And we know that will be you, because you've never walked away from a foray without the last word. You probably call that "spine" as well.

I don't think you're a tough guy; I think you think you're a tough guy. I think you think that if you never give in, always get the last word, pen posts with clever language that makes the adversary look like a bit of a fool; you've won something for the day. It makes you feel better about yourself when you step away from the keyboard every day at 5pm.

That's all well and good; to each his own... until you run out of people to talk to. We're not that far away.

He will always have those voices in his head, though.

So in your philosophical mind you claim that hyperbole in pointing out you have tied yourself into using the very term used by this man is an actual,attempt to push the narrative that you keep company with child predators?

We both know it means you should be careful about whose terms you use and who they are before pushing their agenda. But you do you.

What is the infatuation with all the people that run around screaming "TRRRUMMMP!" all day constantly saying others are "upset"? It's weird.

I couldn't give to shizzles and a giggle.

You seem pretty upset though.

So, tell me, Mac. Could I bribe you for $24? Assuming you're already a millionaire, of course.

Most normal people call that having an opposing opinion until they wish to make the opposing opinion a target to blame the messenger. What you really mean is "people who share my politics" see it that way. It's pretty simple. Either you engage with people who have differing political views or you don't. You either participate in that or you don't. Your method seems to be ignore it all until the moment you wish to jump an and make insults then block me again. I'm not sure what the hell you call that. Does that even qualify for a participation trophy?


And then there are people who claim to have me blocked but somehow can't resist jumping into the foray to throw your own insults while pointing the finger at me for doing that. The fact of the matter is there is no defense for the things trump and this administration says or does. People such as yourself ignore it, refuse to comment on it and instead you even compared much of it as the same as "blowing your nose". But somehow you try to blame people like me for it. It's not my fault you refuse to step up to the plate and own it.


Once again, people on your side of politics aren't everyone. As long as we have posted on this board I had no idea you had a psychology degree or the qualifications to diagnose someone's thought process. I guess it really is true that you learn something new every day. So what do you call your refusal to call trump out for anything? What do you call trying to normalize his behavior by either ignoring it or shooting the messenger for posting it? I would certainly like your "expert diagnosis" on that one.

But I will give you one thing. Claiming it takes a spine to engage with those on which you disagree with is a huge overstatement. Just a couple of vertebrae would do the trick.

See. This is how it works. I have no interest in dissecting you dissection of my post. I skimmed that crap and I'm moving on with my day.

And just so you know, I have a few people "on ignore". One in particular, just because they're so dumb I usually can't even make sense of their posts. That case is a "time vampire" ignore. Another would blame Trump if an asteroid hit the moon. That's an "off his rocker" ignore.

In your case, it's a necessary tool for navigating this space. I can easily see...

BullDawg

*ignore*

BullDawg

*ignore*

BullDawg

*ignore*

BullDawg

*ignore*

BullDawg

*ignore*

BullDawg

*ignore*

And know that is a waste of my time. I can be like "yep, he's reeling in another, glad I don't partake in that b.s. anymore".


In any case, I can decide whether the drivel is worth my attention before I take the time to even read it. When it's the usual b.s., it's not worth a glance.


But the fact that you post here 300 times a day and have some grand illusion that everyone is obligated to read your posts or you're more of a man than them pretty much says it all.

Now be a good dawg and get your last word. In fact, if you don't, you're a "spinless coward".

You do understand that the definition of the word "drivel" isn't things you can not defend, right?

I do at least have a coupe of vertebrae left.

Yes, I find your intentionally "exaggerating" to create drama to be "pushing a narrative." Child sexual abuse is a term normal people don't use to push their agendas when it's clearly unrelated to the topic, yet that was your choice. There's nothing humorous about it.

To me, you're a contemptible hypocrite. I don't think I'm alone in that belief.