No problem. I couldn't remember the knee injury, I guess it was in the Jax game 1st quarter returning a kickoff. Can't find video. I even re-cued the game but the crew cut away directly after the tackle and there were too many bodies on the screen to see anything. They made no mention at the time.
Apparently, he was seen on crutches after the game.
Anyway, he's eligible to return on 10/18 for the Ravens, but that will depend on the severity of the injury. It took some digging to find the unofficial "significant knee sprain".
Even if we win 6 games, we have the draft capitol to move up. Secondly, as was already stated, the NCAAF season is young and there could be as many as 6 QB's or more that will be able to play in the NFL. We won't know until January most likely.
Originally Posted by OrangeHelmet
(We're going to get 6 or so wins and miss out on a franchise qb in the draft.)
Obviously someone appears to be looking at only one or two (1 or 2) particular QB's while so far this year there are a few upcoming QB's that IMO should be watched. The NCAAF season has just gotten under way
Originally Posted by Homewood Dog
Exactly Fate thank you. If we win 6 games most likely we will be picking no lower than 10th. Let's say there are 3 really good QB's available that will be considered FQB's. We should have the draft capitol to get one of them. With 5 wins last year we picked 6th I believe. We will have to use our 2#1's and possibly a #1 in "28 to move up and get our guy depending on the situation. Maybe if we only have to move up 3 slots a #2 in "28 will be enough. All speculation at this point.
Over the past 10 years, 2024 is the only year that 6 wins didn't get you in the top ten. Most years, that is somewhere between 6-8 on average.
Some of the thinking here probably needs to adjust as well.. It isn't JUST teams in need of a QB that are going to be so bad that they are picking ahead of us. There are many teams with young QBs or situations where the starter gets injured that will have really bad years, but won't be looking for a QB.
If all goes well and there really are 6 viable QBs in the draft (which I still think could be possible. Throw out historical, that's why history changes). We could end up in the 6-7 spot in the draft and a couple of teams in the top 3 that don't need a QB. Now, they could stay at say the #2 spot and draft someone like Jeremiah Smith... OR they could trade down to #6 and get another first rounder and future first or second, and possibly still get Smith. I'm confident this class will have two guys in this draft that I will want to be a really good QB prospect.
Too much to determine between now and next April at this point.. but I would much rather feel like I did this past Sunday than a week earlier.. whether that is 6 times or 12 times... it's still better than 3 times. I can't worry about what will happen in the draft right now. Heck we could tank, still get the #4 overall pick and only 1 QB declare for the draft because of NIL money and any number of other reasons.
I feel pretty good about the college prospects though and frankly being in the top ten, I feel good about having the draft capital to move up high enough to snag one of my top of list guys.
Thanks for posting. That was great and I think Q was spot on with a lot of different perspectives.
Started watching a couple of other of his takes - including the one below. It's interesting to see the plays getting broken down and the WRs being open... at about the 17 minute mark he makes a comment how they did this last year and were complaining how no-one was open, so encouraging from both the talent and scheme angle.
Of course much easier to be positive after a nice win -- let's see if we can maintain the competitiveness.
Also nice video called "Todd's message lands with NFL Locker Rooms" - another good 17 minutes.
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The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
Deshaun wasn't perfect. Some of the "meat on the bones" plays are based on playing a perfect game; but hey, that's what all QBs should strive for. I was just happy to see him playing in rhythm and with confidence.
Three big takeaways for me; the first two are his indirect quotes, the last one's mine:
1. It's much easier for a QB to play his game with confidence if his receivers give him a margin for error.
2. You simply can't ignore any of the options if you're playing the Browns.
3. That is not my pointer on the screen, therefor my mouse is not broke.
Throw out history if you like. There's a saying about people who do that.
Yeah? What's the saying?
Just because history says there isn't many years of 5-6 QBs worthy of a first round pick, doesn't mean it won't happen. That's ridiculous, you act like it's never happened and never will. There is a long list of prospects that are currently being evaluated for that. How many years in the past has there been a list of 6 or more being touted at the beginning of a college season? I don't ever recall one.. but, we have one this year.
This is list of prospects that could potentially earn a first round grade: Dante Moore Arch Manning Trinidad Chabliss Julian Sayin CJ Carr LaNorris Sellers Drew Mestamaker Darian Mensah Jayden Maiava
The season is young... More could be added (I'm probably missing some) and obviously some of these could drop. But that is one heck of a list. We haven't seen anything like it, maybe ever.
About 45% to 50% of NFL first-round draft picks become long-term or full-time starters for the team that drafted them. First you claimed there were six possible first round picks and now you've stretched that into nine which is totally preposterous. Six would tie the NFL record of first round QB picks. Even if there are six that means roughly three of them would actually address the issue the Browns have at QB.
I know facts are inconvenient when hope springs eternal but it is what it is.
Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.
Julian Sayin is going to get labeled a one trick pony I'm afraid .. IF #4 goes down he is big trouble .. Day and their OC Aurther Smith put him in this position.. They should have busted their buts ( and his ) to get him comfortable a #2 and lord forbid a 3 .. Last season he had Tate .. All the eggs in one basket will make him look like one read QB..
About 45% to 50% of NFL first-round draft picks become long-term or full-time starters for the team that drafted them. First you claimed there were six possible first round picks and now you've stretched that into nine which is totally preposterous. Six would tie the NFL record of first round QB picks. Even if there are six that means roughly three of them would actually address the issue the Browns have at QB.
I know facts are inconvenient when hope springs eternal but it is what it is.
It is a new world now with NIL, transfer portal, and additional 5th year of illegibility. Without NIL and the 5th year Donte Moore and Trinadad Chambliss would have been in the 2025 draft. Some of these QB's will be able to enter the 2026 draft but could easily get paid and stay in college. Manning, Moore, Carr, Sayin, Sellers, Mestamaker, Mensah, and Maiava I believe could all come back to college due to the new rules which would put a huge wrinkle in many teams' plans. It is a new world in college football so you never know.
