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Originally Posted by bonefish
I have no problem with the guy being executed.

That is not the point at all.

Exactly, He committed the act, he was arrested, tried and found guilty and sentenced to death...

No Problem with that. Just hope people figure out that it's just not the American way..... I know the difference.


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You have given reasons in support of livestreaming an execution.

Where? I can't find any of those, maybe you can point them out for me. I think you may be imagining that... which actually, ironically, supports the very thing you quoted above to dispute.

Then you aren't looking. You don't have to say, "Yeah, I support that" to be supportive of something. Making excuses as to why it's okay, minimizing the severity and using whatabouts as you so famously like to say is all a form of support.....

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Just so you understand; it's never been stated or intended that this will be on someone's "TV menu" or be broadcast over the public airwaves.

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The execution WILL NOT BE SHOWN ON TV.

We all know anyone that has an internet connection can live stream anything they choose. It's much like choosing which channel to watch on TV. By attempting to downplay that it's signaling at least that it's not as bad as people are suggesting it is. This is known as passive support.

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I guarantee I can do some simple searches and watch rapes, murders, beheadings; anything I want within a few clicks. This isn't like a 1978 presidential address where it's locked on all three channels, you won't have to send the kids upstairs and turn the volume down.

Comparing what terrorists and criminals do and what low lifes post on the internet as an excuse why this is somehow okay for our government to do? Let me guess, you'll deny that supports it.

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And yes, once again, outrage is the tail that wags the dog and no one seems to focus on the dog itself...

Once again you posted the horrific terrorist act this man committed as an excuse for a public execution. As a society we are supposed to be better than that. Only terrorists broadcast public executions. Let's try not to support we act the same way the terrorists do.

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I was outraged when Obama's first Homeland Security Secretary called Fort Hood a "man-caused disaster"... and he himself said it was just "workplace violence". You? No?? See, everyone is different.

He explained why he thought it was wrong and you sated why you are different. Actually you compared how you were disgusted by something a president said and somehow managed to compare that to a public execution in terms of bothn events somehow being realted or similar.

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Watch or don't watch. Part of your Freedom of Choice. I guarantee there are hundreds of family members of the 45 killed or wounded, and 300+ service members that lived through that violence, that will be watching and applaud the fact that this monster is sent to hell. What are they? Monsters?

And this is one of your weakest attempts to justify livestreaming a public execution. Executions happen in many states across this nation. Families of the victims are allowed to attend if they so choose. In case you missed it, giving reasons why something is okay or claiming that it's about the victims families when clearly this is not needed for them to witness it is in fact supporting it.

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Again, before anyone gets it twisted:
I can see how many think this is a bridge too far.
It doesn't move the needle much for me.
Nobody is trying to make anyone watch it.
I have no desire to see it, so I make the simple decision not to watch.
Glad this POS is finally getting what he deserves.
Hope this may deter someone, anyone, from even considering doing something similar.

Then, to top that all off, you explain that those who object to it see it differently than you do. How others may see it as a bridge too far but it doesn't move the needle for you.

I can't believe you actually needed me to show you what you posted yourself. And I'm not the only one who saw it and questioned you about it. It seems the only one who couldn't see it was you.


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Originally Posted by Damanshot
Originally Posted by bonefish
I have no problem with the guy being executed.

That is not the point at all.

Exactly, He committed the act, he was arrested, tried and found guilty and sentenced to death...

No Problem with that. Just hope people figure out that it's just not the American way..... I know the difference.


There are quite a few military members and the families of the victims that want to see this criminal eliminated. This is not a for profit execution. This streaming is for our men and women in uniform. Get over all of your self-righteous opinions.

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Originally Posted by Day of the Dawg
Originally Posted by Damanshot
Originally Posted by bonefish
I have no problem with the guy being executed.

That is not the point at all.

Exactly, He committed the act, he was arrested, tried and found guilty and sentenced to death...

No Problem with that. Just hope people figure out that it's just not the American way..... I know the difference.


There are quite a few military members and the families of the victims that want to see this criminal eliminated. This is not a for profit execution. This streaming is for our men and women in uniform. Get over all of your self-righteous opinions.

It is being live streamed for public consumption. For anyone to view. People are executed in this country. None of them are live streamed and the family members are allowed to attend the executions.

All you are dong is making excuses why something that hasn't been done in this nation since 1937 is suddenly "great again".


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Cool story. So you throw a bunch of posts from numerous conversations on the cutting board and act like you made a salad.

The bulk of that mess you made is arguing over "TV". After several people (including yourself) said "it will be on TV". I simply pointed out the difference between choosing to seek something out and watch it and "Oh my God! Oh my God! Look what's on ABC!!"


That's your schtick though (everyone knows it, that's why most don't engage), paint someone into a corner with a narrative you create out of thin air and see if they'll entertain you all day. I've got better things to do as these conversations have never been worth the payoff of an all-day back-and-forth that culminates in "I know you are, but what am I?"

You can have your last word NOW. Not arguing pre-school b.s. with you anymore. I barely unclick posts... usually when the rare occasion arises that it looks like you're interested in conversation and not grandstanding.

So, you can just be right and collect your gold star.

FATE SUPPORTS PUBLIC EXECUTIONS.

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These are comments you made in this thread about the same topic. By accident I did post "one time" that it would be on TV. Every other time I made it clear it would be live streamed. Unlike you at least I owned up to it.

My "schtick" as you call it is showing several examples in this very thread where you have tried to minimize and downplay this event. The only "pre-school b.s." here is you have no actual defense for doing so and as per usual you try to deflect by blaming me. That's your "schtick".

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The bulk of that mess you made is arguing over "TV"

Once again you have put yourself into a situation where you must feel the need to lie. Out of seven places where I quoted you three of those quotes were in reference to posts you made about TV. Three out of seven isn't the "bulk" of them.

The phrase "the bulk of something" means the main part, the largest portion, or the vast majority of a given thing.

Stop throwing a tantrum.


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Actually only two out of the seven comments had to do with watching it being televised. The third one was this with my following comment..............

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I guarantee I can do some simple searches and watch rapes, murders, beheadings; anything I want within a few clicks. This isn't like a 1978 presidential address where it's locked on all three channels, you won't have to send the kids upstairs and turn the volume down.

Comparing what terrorists and criminals do and what low lifes post on the internet as an excuse why this is somehow okay for our government to do? Let me guess, you'll deny that supports it............

So now we're down to 2 out of the 7 comments I quoted of yours being about addressing posters claiming it was on TV.

Once again, 2 out of 7 is not "the bulk" of anything.


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Originally Posted by FATE
Cool story. So you throw a bunch of posts from numerous conversations on the cutting board and act like you made a salad.

The bulk of that mess you made is arguing over "TV". After several people (including yourself) said "it will be on TV". I simply pointed out the difference between choosing to seek something out and watch it and "Oh my God! Oh my God! Look what's on ABC!!"


That's your schtick though (everyone knows it, that's why most don't engage), paint someone into a corner with a narrative you create out of thin air and see if they'll entertain you all day. I've got better things to do as these conversations have never been worth the payoff of an all-day back-and-forth that culminates in "I know you are, but what am I?"

You can have your last word NOW. Not arguing pre-school b.s. with you anymore. I barely unclick posts... usually when the rare occasion arises that it looks like you're interested in conversation and not grandstanding.

So, you can just be right and collect your gold star.

FATE SUPPORTS PUBLIC EXECUTIONS.

Have a great day!

I am tired of people supporting criminals. I would have no problem making executions public. Criminals have no rights. They gave up their rights when they became criminals. I have no desire to watch but I do have a desire for there to be more deterrents for crime. We need quicker punishments. Allowing someone 20+ years on death row is ridiculous. If they are found guilty and appeal and lose then free up the good air.

Also, lawyers making winning and losing cases a sport. Justice is about finding the truth. If a lawyer knows their client is guilty and gets that person off or a judge is soft on crime and lets a criminal out and that criminal commits another crime, then that judge and lawyer should be held accountable. It is time this country gets hard on crime.

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If you don't want to watch a live stream of it it, don't watch it. Fairly simple.

If you don't want to do something, don't. Fairly simple, really.

You have control over what you watch.

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Which makes the federal government live streaming an execution right how again? It makes our government doing exactly what only terrorists done right how again?

Doing the wrong thing is never the right thing just because someone chooses not to watch it.


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Don't like it? Don't watch it. There's a lot of stuff streamed that I don't want to watch. Hence, I don't watch it. I don't throw a hissy fit about it being streamed. I exercise my right to not watch it. On the other hand, you appear to think your thoughts matter more than others. Oh, yeah, spit.

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Originally Posted by Day of the Dawg
I am tired of people supporting criminals.

So you think supporting he be put to death but not have it live streamed is "supporting criminals? On what planet would that be true? notallthere

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I would have no problem making executions public. Criminals have no rights. They gave up their rights when they became criminals.

So when did that mean somehow we have the right to do the wrong thing? When did them being barbarians make us being barbarians acceptable?

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I have no desire to watch but I do have a desire for there to be more deterrents for crime.

The death penalty has shown not to be a deterrent to murder.................

• Scientific Consensus: Over 88% of leading criminologists surveyed in studies published in the Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology state that the death penalty does not lower murder rates.

• National Research Council Reports: A 2012 report by the National Research Council concluded that decades of research provide no credible evidence that capital punishment decreases, increases, or has any effect on homicide rates.

• State Comparisons: FBI data shows that murder rates have consistently been higher in states with the death penalty than in states without it.

• Certainty vs. Severity: Criminological studies indicate that the certainty of being caught and arrested is a far stronger deterrent to crime than the severity of the punishment.

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We need quicker punishments. Allowing someone 20+ years on death row is ridiculous. If they are found guilty and appeal and lose then free up the good air.

So ignore the law and ignore the appeals process?

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Also, lawyers making winning and losing cases a sport. Justice is about finding the truth. If a lawyer knows their client is guilty and gets that person off or a judge is soft on crime and lets a criminal out and that criminal commits another crime, then that judge and lawyer should be held accountable. It is time this country gets hard on crime.

Lawyers are bound to provide zealous, competent, and quality representation under ethical rules.

The Sixth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution guarantees criminal defendants the right to the assistance of counsel, and the government must provide a public defender if the defendant cannot afford one.

You don't have to like it. You don't have to agree with it. I can't say I disagree with how you "feel" is some regards. But you are proposing that attorney's ignore their code of ethics they take to be and continue to be a lawyer in the first place.

This is what happens when you let your feelings rather than a guaranteed right of defendants control your emotions.

Once again, nobody in this entire thread has been against this man getting the death penalty.

But if your goal is to make a martyr out of him, which he has requested and show Muslim extremists America putting a man in a wheelchair getting executed by the firing squad this is the perfect way of doing it. You support handing them the most perfect recruiting tool anyone could think of.

Sometimes thinking long term and looking at the totality of the consequences your choices produce is a better option than looking at it strictly from the short term gratification, emotional aspect that somehow makes you feel good.


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I posted this above. Maybe reading it slowly would help you......

But if your goal is to make a martyr out of him, which he has requested and show Muslim extremists America putting a man in a wheelchair getting executed by the firing squad this is the perfect way of doing it. You support handing them the most perfect recruiting tool anyone could think of.

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On the other hand, you appear to think your thoughts matter more than others.

Pay attention arch.

Nowhere in this nation has a public execution take place in this country since 1937. It was found to be too barbaric and morally wrong. That's not "my thoughts on the matter".

This man has actually requested to be executed so he may become a martyr. You wish to honor his request. Not only honor it but have it done in a way they can use it to recruit even more terrorists by showing the actual execution itself. That's not my "thoughts on the matter".

Making superficial excuses why this is seemingly okay is not "my thoughts on the natter" either.

Think before making this personal arch. That never turns out well for you.

You are right about one thing. This is all fairly simple.


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So don't watch it. It's as simple as that!!!!! You think it will be recruiting tool? You can't be that dumb, can you?

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