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Even though KC and Boston are rookies I could not be more encouraged.
These two are the best young receivers in my memory.
In addition I believe Fannin is a complete stud. He is a monster after the catch. Those three guys could develop into weapons of mass destruction.
I don't know where this whole DW thing will end up. I thought he was going bomb this year. So, on that note I was dead wrong.
I didn't think he had it in him mentally or physically.
So, for now it is a week to week thing. He is trending upward. It is obvious he is gaining confidence. He is playing under control instead of panic.
I do know where this will go? You would think he will improve as chemistry develops.
This game will test him. Looks like Howard will be out. So, that leaves Jones on Watt.
Man, I want this game bad.
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So let's not waste picks on a QB who isn't going to be much of an improvement over Sanders who is being coached up my Monken. Plus Green is also being devolved by Monkien and I actually feel Green has a LOT of potential. You are trying to compare the odds of success of a bona fide first round pick at QB to late round flyer picks at the QB position as somehow being similar. That defies any form of logic. I'm not sure if you just can't hear yourself or if you are just being ridiculous on purpose. This is so crazy it's not even worthy of discussion.
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I might give up a 3rd rounder plus our 1st rounder to trade up for the guy. More than that, forget it. The type of trades people are proposing are 1 player away trades, and even then I wouldn't do that for a non QB college player. Most trades like that are for a proven NFL vet. A Jeffery Simmons is a guy who can do that for a team, not a college prospect.
Simmons is a guy who can take a team from almost there, "there".
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This question is for Razorthorn only..
Would you trade Denzel Boston, KC Conception and the higher of the two first round picks for Smith?
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I think 2 first rounders were too much for Simmons. Maybe a 1st and 2nd but that's it. Although I know it's been done before, usually multiple 1st's are for a QB in a trade or to move uup in the draft. As far as a trade we know all about that don't we? 
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This question is for Razorthorn only..
Would you trade Denzel Boston, KC Conception and the higher of the two first round picks for Smith? No. I would not trade Boston away period. Boston is one of my favorite type of WR types and I want him AND Smith so having smith without Boston is counter productive to me. I had Boston rated as the top WR in this past draft behind Tate that I wanted. I thought this past draft was an excellent draft for #2 WRs and slot WRs. To me these guys have already proven they are going to be stars in the NFL so I don't want to trade them. I would rather trade unproven draft picks to move up for Smith than trade away players who are already proven to be capable. To be clear, in my mind you are offering 3 first round picks for move up for Smith since I view Boston as a first round pick we got lucky enough to draft later. BUT if you wanted to trade two firsts and a second round pick to move up and take Smith I would be all for it. I just don't want to give up Boston and KC.
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So let's not waste picks on a QB who isn't going to be much of an improvement over Sanders who is being coached up my Monken. Plus Green is also being devolved by Monkien and I actually feel Green has a LOT of potential. You are trying to compare the odds of success of a bona fide first round pick at QB to late round flyer picks at the QB position as somehow being similar. That defies any form of logic. I'm not sure if you just can't hear yourself or if you are just being ridiculous on purpose. This is so crazy it's not even worthy of discussion. You keep harping on drafting a QB so I asked you what QB you are going to draft that is so much better than Sanders or Watson. Teams drafting QBs in the first round based on need instead of BPA almost always end up failing because they lost a great talent for a subpar QB. A QB taken in the first round is not a guarantee to be a bonafide great QB. There are tons of first round QBs who have been complete failures but you are acting like taking one in the first round is a promise of a great QB. The Browns have taken 5 QBs in the first round since returning in 1999. How many of those 5 were worth the pick? Still think I am crazy or will you learn that drafting purely for need is a recipe for failure in the NFL?
You can't fix stupid but you can destroy ignorance. When you destroy ignorance you remove the justifications for evil. If you want to destroy evil then educate our people. Hate is a tool of the stupid to deal with what they can't understand.
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