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Ralphie,, I bet this thread comes down quickly.. you may well have heard it, but without a link of some type, I bet it's considered a rumor.....
You are correct. I am letting this thread stay because links were eventually posted. However, it is against the rules to post a thread from something heard on the television or radio without a link provided.
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What everyone is forgetting is that Winslow's new agent, always tries to get a new deal once he signs on to represent a player. Whatever that old deal was, Drew tries to redo the deal. But this time, it will not work because Winslow's knee is not in good shape. So the Browns do not have to negotiate a thing with Winslow, other than when practice will start. 
Yes, and I think that's the big motivating factor here. The news story was just posted on PFT, and this was one of his comments about it:
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Rosenhaus needs paid, so Kellen is coming out and saying he wants a new contract. Also pointed out by PFT, he has 3 years left, Braylon has 2. If Winslow gets an extension, Braylon may not like that.
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True !....If we have true Team Players on our squad they should Not be so greedy and place the success of the team(Which will eventually get them paid .) ahead of additional $$ in their wallet....Itwas reported by Tony Rizzo on Fox 8 that Anderson has turned down a 3 yr. $ 17M($ 11M guaranteed) contract offer....I have also read here that Mr. Savage said that talks with Anderson were to paraphrase , going smoothly....IMHO both Winslow & Anderson should be able put the team first....Given our need to sign Lewis and add FA talent , I don't see us reworking K2 contract or giving Anderson anything near what he is supposed to be seeking(Romeo $ 6yrs $ 67.5M(30M guaranteed)....IMHO this Anderson issue should be resolved ASAP for the good of the team....Ideally some team will come to us seeking Anderson's services(a 1st & 3rd would really be helpful given our current Draft situation).....However , each time Anderson IMHO overvalues himself or his agents overvalue him , if you really believe that he leaves contract talks to them....He only hurts his chances to get any decent contract from another team  ....
Dude...you've been saying this in every thread I've read from you and I'm trying to help you here...it's ROMO, NOT Romeo.
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Skip Bayless calls Romo 'Romeo'...not sure if that's where he's going with it or not, but it's a deragatory name, a la #9.
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Give Kellen his money. Bottom line is that the guy is easily worth it.
I'd wait until AFTER the next surgery however and make extra money in the form of roster bonuses or production incentives.
The man is arguably the best TE in the league...easily top 5. If his salary is out of line with Gonzalez or Gates, get it in line.
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Just heard as I was coming home from a hard afternoon of fishing and kayaking on Sirius Channel 124...Adam Schein...this BREAKING NEWS!
K.Winslow and his lawyers are demanding a redo of his contract to recoup some of the money that he lost when the Brown's redid his contract after his injury.
Show me where he and his "lawyers" are demanding anything. And people wonder why they don't allow people to report what they "hear" off the radio on this board. It's because they imbelish what they "hear". 
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It doesn't 
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We'd have to guarantee Winslow Peyton Manning type money for it to be even close to an issue.
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Show me where he and his "lawyers" are demanding anything. And people wonder why they don't allow people to report what they "hear" off the radio on this board. It's because they imbelish what they "hear".
I just heard on the radio that the globe is warming and we will all be incinerated in like 20 years or something. 
We don't have to agree with each other, to respect each others opinion.
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I just heard on the radio that the globe is warming and we will all be incinerated in like 20 years or something.
OMG,,, I'm so happy I ordered my asbestos underwear! 
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Didn't think so,, maybe it was wishful thinking on Ralphies part
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I think both DA and Winslow are nuts in their contract demands.
DA is balking at $ 11 million guaranteed and the soldier wants a new contract.
they're both fools and the Browns are idiots if they give in to them.
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I think both DA and Winslow are nuts in their contract demands.
What exactly are thier contract demands? I hadn't heard any specifics,,
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DA is balking at $ 11 million guaranteed and the soldier wants a new contract.
According to Phil Savage on the radio yesterday (you can hear the interview yourself at WTAM.com) I think they have been throwing around all kinds of numbers and years etc etc.. I'm not sure DA balked at anything.. I think he's negotiating!
I also think it's time to quit referring to Winslow as "the solja".. that was a long time ago and frankly, KW has matured a lot since then..
It does appear he wants to redo his contract.. He's in the probowl, he's one of, if not the best TE in the league.. even with a bad leg and shoulder, the kid was amazing.. I hope he gets a new deal and I hope it keeps him here for the rest of his career...
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True !....If we have true Team Players on our squad they should Not be so greedy and place the success of the team(Which will eventually get them paid .) ahead of additional $$ in their wallet....Itwas reported by Tony Rizzo on Fox 8 that Anderson has turned down a 3 yr. $ 17M($ 11M guaranteed) contract offer....I have also read here that Mr. Savage said that talks with Anderson were to paraphrase , going smoothly....IMHO both Winslow & Anderson should be able put the team first....
Dude, this isn't a movie. Not "Remember The Titans" or "Rudy".
It's a "business". And all parties involved,including NFL teams, players and agents treat it as such, bottom line. This elusive "team loyalty" you speak of went out the window with the FA market.
Your scenario is a pipe dream in "the real world".
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True !....If we have true Team Players on our squad they should Not be so greedy and place the success of the team(Which will eventually get them paid .) ahead of additional $$ in their wallet....Itwas reported by Tony Rizzo on Fox 8 that Anderson has turned down a 3 yr. $ 17M($ 11M guaranteed) contract offer....I have also read here that Mr. Savage said that talks with Anderson were to paraphrase , going smoothly....IMHO both Winslow & Anderson should be able put the team first....
Dude, this isn't a movie. Not "Remember The Titans" or "Rudy".
It's a "business". And all parties involved,including NFL teams, players and agents treat it as such, bottom line. This elusive "team loyalty" you speak of went out the window with the FA market.
Your scenario is a pipe dream in "the real world".
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I don;t know what you're talking about Pit....just the other day, I asked my boss to cut my salary and increase my workload for the good of the department.
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One of the best, cause Tony Gonzalez is the best 
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True !....If we have true Team Players on our squad they should Not be so greedy and place the success of the team(Which will eventually get them paid .) ahead of additional $$ in their wallet....Itwas reported by Tony Rizzo on Fox 8 that Anderson has turned down a 3 yr. $ 17M($ 11M guaranteed) contract offer....I have also read here that Mr. Savage said that talks with Anderson were to paraphrase , going smoothly....IMHO both Winslow & Anderson should be able put the team first....
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Dude, this isn't a movie. Not "Remember The Titans" or "Rudy".
It's a "business". And all parties involved,including NFL teams, players and agents treat it as such, bottom line. This elusive "team loyalty" you speak of went out the window with the FA market.
Your scenario is a pipe dream in "the real world".
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I don;t know what you're talking about Pit....just the other day, I asked my boss to cut my salary and increase my workload for the good of the department.
You mean, everyone doesn;t do that?
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LOL It only figures you would say that!
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Yup. I will say this. KW could have been the best TE to ever play the game, but you can't compare a guy who plays for ten plus years to a guy that might only be playing for a few more. If KW plays for ten years I would be shocked. The rate he's going with surgeries every year I only give him four more years.
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I hope you are wrong about that... but I fear you may be right!
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He probably is wrong,he won't make it 4 more years.He's walking on borrowed time now.
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Sounds to me like KW hasn't completed the maturity process. Part of that is realizing that the past is just that - the past. It CANNOT be changed. Maturing also means that there are consequences to one's poor decisions, thus, when U screw up, take your medicine like a man, learn from your mistake(s) and keep it movin'.
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What everyone is forgetting is that Winslow's new agent, always tries to get a new deal once he signs on to represent a player. Whatever that old deal was, Drew tries to redo the deal. But this time, it will not work because Winslow's knee is not in good shape. So the Browns do not have to negotiate a thing with Winslow, other than when practice will start.
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We saw this one coming last year, when Winslow dumped the Postons and hired Drew Rosenhaus. When a player changes agents in the middle of a contract, the new agent doesn't get paid until a new deal gets done.
Rosenhaus needs paid, so Kellen is coming out and saying he wants a new contract. Also pointed out by PFT, he has 3 years left, Braylon has 2. If Winslow gets an extension, Braylon may not like that.
Marjax...Bingo...bullseye...you knocked that one out of the park...
Marjax...I read the same article and my first thought was, Rosenhaus is thinking more about himself than he is Winslow.
Winslow is doing his part to push for a new contract so his new agent can get paid.
If I'm Savage, I put Rosenhaus on the back burner and explain, we have other commitments to take care of first and the Browns need to see how Winslow recovers from his next surgery.
Let this dynamic duo squawk all they want...Winslow is under contract for 3 more seasons.
1) If Winslow's next surgery is successful and the doctors are ok with what they see...
2) and if Winslow's rehab goes well over the off season...
3) and if Winslow proves he's healthy during the preseason...
4) and if Savage has some (cap) room to work a new deal for Winslow, only after all other contract business is taken care of first...then, fine...sign him to a new contract largely based on incentives...add a couple more years.
But for now, Winslow and his agent need to stop trying to negotiate a new contract thru the press. Savage should make it clear to Rosenhaus and Winslow that they need to be patient and concentrate on rehabbing. There are other contract priorities to be taken care of before Savage can address Winslow and Rosenhaus' "wants".
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Good post mac,....My question is, what guarantee of future enhanced performance do Rosenhaus/Winslow provide to the Browns, that warrants such a renegotiation.
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Winslow is doing his part to push for a new contract so his new agent can get paid.
We should all keep in mind,, winslow was asked by a reporter about getting a new deal, his response was a simple, "hope so"! let's not let this get all blown out of proportion like the reporters are doing...
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We should all keep in mind,, winslow was asked by a reporter about getting a new deal, his response was a simple, "hope so"! let's not let this get all blown out of proportion like the reporters are doing...
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“I leave it up to Drew,” Winslow said of agent Drew Rosenhaus, who was by his side. “When I got hurt the contract got renegotiated so some things changed. But I think I’ve proven these past two years that I’m one of the elite tight ends.
“My value on the field … they put an extra DB in the game, and that really changes the whole game. They have to guard me kind of like a wide receiver so, you know, yeah, I’ve got to get that new money.”
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I think him saying "I've got to get that new money" is pretty clear and not being misquoted.
He's about to have his 4th knee surgery since the time he BREACHED HIS ORIGINAL CONTRACT due to riding a motorcycle illegally. His deal was re-done and THE BROWNS STILL ALLOWED FOR INCENTIVES within it for him to re-coup the money he lost due to HIS OWN IGNORANCE AND LACK OF MATURITY.
If I were in the F.O., I would tell him to shut the hell up, go have his surgery, come back in 2008 and show us max performance once again AND THEN WE WILL TALK about possibly re-doing a contract.
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WOW,, Thanks for clueing me in shep,, all I heard was a blurb on ESPN the other day.. I didn't hear the rest of it... they must have cut it out,,,,
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Request has to wait Jeff Schudel JSchudel@News-Herald.com02/09/2008 Browns' Winslow wants a new contract, but a more pressing need is Lewis, Anderson deals Kellen Winslow Jr. is going to have to take a number and grab a seat, like a person waiting at the license bureau, before the Browns get around to discussing his request for a new contract with a hefty raise. To say Winslow is "demanding" a new contract is to too strong at this point, but during an interview Thursday on SIRIUS Radio from Hawaii, where Winslow is practicing for the Pro Bowl Sunday, the Browns tight end said he has proven himself over the past two seasons and should be compensated. "Well, when I got hurt (in 2005) the contract got re-negotiated so some things changed, but I think I've proven these past two years that I'm one of the elite tight ends," Winslow said. "My value on the field, they put an extra DB in the game, and that really changes the whole game. They have to guard me kind of like a wide receiver so, you know, yeah, gotta get that new money." Winslow chuckled after making the remark. At any rate, the Browns' front office has more immediate concerns. Free agency kicks off Feb. 29 and running back Jamal Lewis plus quarterback Derek Anderson, among others, remain unsigned. Obviously, General Manager Phil Savage would be more concerned with signing potential free agents than signing a player under contract through 2010, even if Winslow's health wasn't a concern. Talks with agents for both Anderson and Lewis are ongoing, according to sources. None of the parties involved expect a resolution until the final week in February. Lewis, Anderson and the rest would be free agents on Feb. 29 without new contracts. Anderson, Daven Holly and Simon Fraser would be restricted free agents. Also on the docket of the front office is the NFL scouting combine, which begins in less than two weeks in Indianapolis. Savage and his staff are deep into their draft preparation at this time of the year. It is worth noting Winslow did not mention his contract situation until he was prompted by the interviewer. It has been speculated that Drew Rosenhaus, Winslow's agent, suggested the subject to Adam Schein from SIRIUS Radio.The timing for discussing a new contract is odd. Eight days ago at Super Bowl headquarters, Winslow announced he needs more surgery on his right knee, adding: "I'm just really worried about my knee. Your legs are your life. I need my knee." It is rare for a team to tear up an existing contract and offer a new one because it sets a precedent for other players under contract who have good seasons back to back, as Winslow has. It is even rarer to give a new contract to a player with the string of surgeries Winslow has had. He has had at least one operation every year since being drafted in 2004. During the SIRIUS interview from Hawaii, Winslow backed off slightly on the urgency for another surgery. "I was actually planning maybe to go get a second opinion and maybe get it done, but next week I'm going to take a look at it," Winslow said. "It's feeling OK out here but it might be a good idea to just get it looked at." Winslow caught 82 passes for 1,106 yards and five touchdowns in 2007 after catching 89 for 875 yards and three touchdowns in 2006. If the Browns enter into negotiations with Rosenhaus - an agent notorious for adding players under contract to his collection and then demanding a new deal - discussions are unlikely to begin before May. Winslow is scheduled to make $4 million in 2008, $4.5 million the next year and $4.75 million in 2010. He made $305,000 in 2005 while missing the entire season recovering from surgery following his motorcycle accident and 542,500 in 2006 when he tied Ozzie Newsome for the Browns' franchise record for catches in a season.
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If I were in the F.O., I would tell him to shut the hell up, go have his surgery, come back in 2008 and show us max performance once again AND THEN WE WILL TALK about possibly re-doing a contract.
Bingo. The Browns were MORE than fair (and patient) with KWII. The FO would have been perfectly within their rights to KEEP the money they put back into the re-worked contract in the form of performance incentives. However, they didn't want to absolutely hammer the kid for his foolishness and gave him the opportunity to earn it back.
Now, he's worked his butt off to do just that and I give the guy all kinds of props for his play over the last couple of seasons. He's doing his part and the Browns are doing theirs. However, I don't think it's too much to ask, on the Browns' part, for one more season of the current contract (particularly if he has another procedure on that knee) before he starts making noise about a new deal.
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Winslow is doing his part to push for a new contract so his new agent can get paid.
We should all keep in mind,, winslow was asked by a reporter about getting a new deal, his response was a simple, "hope so"! let's not let this get all blown out of proportion like the reporters are doing...
Damn...the reporter put quotes around more than just "hope so"...here is a little more of the conversation....
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tight ends,'' Winslow said from the Pro Bowl in Hawaii. "My value on the field,
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whole game. They have to guard me kind of like a wide receiver so, you know,
yeah, gotta to get that new money. (laughs)"
He was asked specifically if he'll be looking for a new contract.
"Yeah. Hope so. Hope so,'' he said.
.......Daman...and it was reported that Winslow had his agent by his side when the above conversation occurred.
Not too many ways to interrupt that conversation other than Winslow wants a new contract so my agent can get paid, IMO.
I'm dead serious about the how I feel Savage should handle the whole thing, should Rosenhaus and Winslow approach him about a new contract.
They have their horse in front of the cart more than just a little.
I'm not fond of those looking to take advantage of such an opportunity...with all the press around...with the talk of Savage trying to negotiate with Lewis and Anderson...and out of the blue, by just plain luck, Winslow gets named to the pro bowl when Gates announces he's going to be a no show (on Feb 4th)...
Just 3 days later, we have the negotiation going on via the press.
Here's more I found this morning..seems Winslow was talking a whole lot more than just "Hope so"...
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Also still under contract is Browns tight end Winslow. In fact, Cleveland extended his deal even as Winslow was recuperating in 2005 from a serious motorcycle accident that cost him an entire season.
Winslow breached his original six-year, $40 million rookie deal when he violated a "dangerous activities" clause while practicing motorcycle stunts in a parking lot. Although he lost close to $3 million in bonuses from that contract, he got an extension that allowed Winslow to recoup some of the money.
He responded with Pro Bowl numbers, including 82 receptions for 1,106 yards and five TDs in 2007.
With agent Drew Rosenhaus at his side Thursday, Winslow said he would be seeking a second opinion on his right knee, which might require surgery for the fourth time. Then he mentioned he hoped to get a new deal from the Browns.
"I leave it up to Drew," said Winslow, who replaced Antonio Gates of San Diego for the game.
"When I got hurt the contract got renegotiated so some things changed. But I think I've proven these past two years that I'm one of the elite tight ends. My value on the field ... they put an extra DB in the game, and that really changes the whole game. They have to guard me kind of like a wide receiver so, you know, yeah, I've got to get that new money."
After the laughter died down, Winslow added:
"This is my life, what I always wanted to do. My career didn't star out like I wanted it to with the injuries and all, and I started asking questions like, `Why me, why'd I get hurt?' But without the struggle, there is no progress, and this is progress. I stayed positive, worked my butt off, and now I'm here.
"Anyone would want to be out here. It's like a Corona commercial."
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I can understand that to a point,, you being ticked off about it that is. But really, I know that KW did some stupid things, but I think he showed us a little something about his mental make up and ability to play the game hurt also..
I really think it serves NO GOOD PURPOSE to air his laundry in public like that. To me, especially in his situation, all it does is cause feelings such as yours in the fan base... Kinda dumb if you ask me..
But putting that aside for a moment, I have no problem making him the highest paid TE in the league.. basically, I think he's the best in the league if not one of the top 3 anyway. And frankly, I want him here for his entire career which I suspect won't be that long given the nature of his injuries.
Still, it ticks me off that he felt the need to talk about that in public.. I think it's Dumber than Dumb..
Anytime you put your employer in a corner, it's a bad thing.. and if you hadn't noticed, every one of Drew "I want more money" Rosenhauss clients seem to act the same way.. personally, I think it's calculated..
The good news is this,, I think that Savage is smarter than Rosenhaus and won't fall for that crap.... But, that's JMO.....
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Exactly what I said...
Winslow, your at the end of the line...we will see if anything is left after all other players are taken care of first.
And don't forget, the Browns have already been very generous to you and your previous agents.
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MAC,,did you not read where shep already enlightened me to the whole story.....
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We should all keep in mind,, winslow was asked by a reporter about getting a new deal, his response was a simple, "hope so"! let's not let this get all blown out of proportion like the reporters are doing...
His responses were more than that:
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“I leave it up to Drew,” Winslow said of agent Drew Rosenhaus, who was by his side. “When I got hurt the contract got renegotiated so some things changed. But I think I’ve proven these past two years that I’m one of the elite tight ends.
“My value on the field … they put an extra DB in the game, and that really changes the whole game. They have to guard me kind of like a wide receiver so, you know, yeah, I’ve got to get that new money.”
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I think him saying "I've got to get that new money" is pretty clear and not being misquoted.
He's about to have his 4th knee surgery since the time he BREACHED HIS ORIGINAL CONTRACT due to riding a motorcycle illegally. His deal was re-done and THE BROWNS STILL ALLOWED FOR INCENTIVES within it for him to re-coup the money he lost due to HIS OWN IGNORANCE AND LACK OF MATURITY.
If I were in the F.O., I would tell him to shut the hell up, go have his surgery, come back in 2008 and show us max performance once again AND THEN WE WILL TALK about possibly re-doing a contract.
I was irritated when I heard this on the radio as well. Here is a guy that brings a lot to the offense and a threat a defense has to account for. But, also damaged goods. He won't ever be 100% again and seems to have surgery after each season. Some of it b/c of his own doing. He has one pro bowl year and the agent starts the "underpaid" crap. Gee, if you didn't play with your bike and hurt yourself then maybe that would be deserved, but he has some more to prove to this FO. How long do we already have him locked up for anyways, wasn't it 3 more years?
Another thing that is bothering me a lil bit is his decision to play in the pro bowl. I didn't read any specifics regarding what surgery he is about to have done, but the NFL season is grueling on your body and if you need a surgery you have to get it done as early as possible to have plenty of time to recover. My hope is it's very minor and theres not too much recovery time. Whats best for the Browns is all I care about. Plus, playing in the Pro Bowl is only for his personal benefit when it comes to contract negotiation. Either thees something in the contract for more money if he goes or he is going to use it as a bargaining chip when it is time to negotiate.
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j/c: A few thoughts: ---I think K2's agent is behind this entire thing. He is using K2 in the same manner he has used other high-profile clients. ---I don't know how generous and kind the Browns were being when they kept him after the bike accident. *L* I think they kept him because they knew that he was a superior talent and he could reap big dividends for them. I really doubt it is because they were being charitable. ---I don't think Savage will address this issue right away. I think he is going to handle DA and Lewis, as well as address the few other possible free agents we have. Then, I think he is going to turn his full attention to the draft and FA period----meaning K2 and his agent are going to have to wait for quite some time before they even hear anything from the Browns.
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Daman...if you look at the order of the posts, you will see, my post came after sheps but I was making my response to your post and therefore did not get the chance to read his.
You've been enlightened twice now...
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Oh Goodie,, I feel so enlightened
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A few thoughts:
---I think K2's agent is behind this entire thing. He is using K2 in the same manner he has used other high-profile clients.
---I don't know how generous and kind the Browns were being when they kept him after the bike accident. *L* I think they kept him because they knew that he was a superior talent and he could reap big dividends for them. I really doubt it is because they were being charitable.
---I don't think Savage will address this issue right away. I think he is going to handle DA and Lewis, as well as address the few other possible free agents we have. Then, I think he is going to turn his full attention to the draft and FA period----meaning K2 and his agent are going to have to wait for quite some time before they even hear anything from the Browns.
Vers i think this is exactly how it will play out.....K2's agent doesn't get payed on his current contract and i have no doubt he is behind this whole thing. After all how would you like to represent someone and not be payed for 3 more yrs.
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