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There you have it - 1 article on here says he was eating with his wife, the next one says he was with his girlfriend. He's guilty. 
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There you have it - 1 article on here says he was eating with his wife, the next one says he was with his girlfriend.
He's guilty.
Of what? Being victim to papparrazzi that doesn't know the butthole from a hole in the ground?
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UHH was there a brady clone? how do the officers not know if it was Quinn or not..he has freakin' commercials for cryin out loud...
And on the other side...how could Quinn deny talking to the cops even? if he really was there and did talk with the cops thats a easy lie to catch....the story doesn't add up...unless there was no official report of the situation that recorded brady being there it's his words against theirs pretty much i guess...
Does his name appear in the police report? That would be the only report of him being there..since he wasn't arrested
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There you have it - 1 article on here says he was eating with his wife, the next one says he was with his girlfriend.
He's guilty.
Of what? Being victim to papparrazzi that doesn't know the butthole from a hole in the ground?
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Sorry.
Didn't see any graemlins in your previous post - just wanted to make sure you knew where I was coming from.
And on a totally different note - why is it spelled "graemlin"?
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And on a totally different note - why is it spelled "graemlin"?
LOL........that's a question that I have wondered about too, but was too afraid to ask.
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Most places spell it GREMLIN. I did find this answer with a quick search..."The person that came up with the idea is named Graeme, thus when Ted implemented the idea he named them Graemlins".
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Ahhh........that would make more sense.......at least to me.
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Exactly - so why is it "graemlin"?????
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don't know why it's spelled that way. But if you notice the comment wasn't their buttholes but THE butthole  
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"The person that came up with the idea is named Graeme, thus when Ted implemented the idea he named them Graemlins" -- answer found somewhere on the internet.
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So how often do you hang out at Union Cafe Bar 
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So how often do you hang out at Union Cafe Bar
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Since when did this board become full of " SAINTS " ?  
My thoughts exactly.
What are those Brady Bashers gonna do when he marches the Browns to the Super Bowl? They're gonna say..."WE LOVE YOU BRADY!" and conveniently forget everything bad they said about him. Typical. 
Go back and tell me what "Brady Bashers" made comments about this. Most of the responses are the "if it's true" variety and most of the responses made like that were from people that I know think Quinn is going to be better than DA.
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Don't you mean all but one?
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Just heard the statement from Quinn on the radio. He said that he and his wife were out with other couples that evening for dinner. He said he had no interaction with these people. No altercation with the police. He was no way involved in this report. He said that it was either a lie or a case of mistaken identity. The team had looked into the situation and claimed that the accusations were made without merit and stand behind Quinn 100%.
Funny how so many people were so quick to judge him based on an accustion without any proof. 
There is always 2 sides to a story. Try to hear both sides before you pass judgement.
It's weird, people either love to hate Quinn or love to love Quinn.
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What is weird is how people make comments like yours. Who, besides Toad..........hated on Quinn?
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I think that was directed towards me because I was joking around about Quinn.
I want to make one thing clear..........I wanna see Quinn play for a long time to come and in a Browns uni.
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Does his name appear in the police report? That would be the only report of him being there..since he wasn't arrested
I might guess that since this incident wasn't physically violent and happened on New Years Eve, that the cops just wanted to get it calmed down and get out to go with some real problems. The facts of the incident should be pretty easy to prove.. Was he having dinner with this Thompson guy that night? At no point does he officially say whether he was or was not at that Mexican restaurant, there should be a credit card receipt to prove that. Did anybody at any time ask for his ID?
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One of the gay guys prolly came up to him and hit on him or something so he called him a fag.
Whoop de doo..
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It's weird, people either love to hate Quinn or love to love Quinn.
Not me. So far, I haven't really formed any opinions of him... as an individual player or in comparison to DA. I've barely seen him play. Ever.
I don't watch college ball very often, and I never watched a ND game during his entire career. My only contact with him is the few reps he's taken in a Browns uniform. I guess I'll start developing opinions about him when he becomes more relevant. Until then, he's some guy who plays a backup role on our team.
Maybe that's why I've found this whole Brady Quinn love/hatefest so damed entertaining. It's been fascinating to see how someone who has essentially been a non-factor in the Browns' play can elicit such passionate responses from folks. Guess it comes with the high pick or something.
As for the subject of the article- Guys like Quinn have millions of dollars riding on them. It's a very lucrative gravy train to be riding on, but it comes with responsibility, as well. For the next 10 years or so, Brady Quinn needs to run from anything that could jeopardize his standinng with the team. If junk like this starts up near him, he should take his lady by the arm and hustle her out like he was avoiding a Dwight Freeny speed rush.
If he does this, he can retire a very wealthy 30-something, and then do all the dumb stuff he wants. Until then, he might do well to separate himself from folks who can't hold their liquor or tongues in public. Invite them to the house, get'em tix for the game, but DO NOT let them get their mud splashed on you.
Bad PR is bad PR... and whether he's truly guilty of boorish behavior or just a victim of "guilt by association," the results end up smelling pretty much the same.
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Exactly !....IMHO even though Quinn has a right to be salty given his current uncertain status with the Browns after the trade up and the hype....However , such episodes IF they are confirmed and continue will only help to decrease his value here and in any trade scenario IF we do sign Anderson to a long term deal....
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What is weird is how people make comments like yours. Who, besides Toad..........hated on Quinn?
I wasn't talking about this board, I meant in general...
There are alot of people believe it or not that hate Quinn for being the Golden boy from Notre Dame and alot of people who love him for being that exact same thing, no need to get offended.
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Of course now that the 2nd side of the story has just come out, this is going to sound "after the fact", but as I was reading there were a couple things that really bugged me about the article.
I don't know if Brady said or did anything. If he did...then he has lost some respect from me. I would expect more from my theoretical child whether he was 5, 10 or 23 yrs old.
But this is what bugs me.
It has been pointed out that there are inconsistancies in the phone call. First, Brady was trying to start a fight, then he is in the back letuing his guys do the work. But what I didn't see anyon post was this. The Thompson guy was a friend or with the group of people that were being slurred against. Now
Brady is supposedly getting "physical" and trying to start a fight, yet this Thompson guy was the one that was arrested for turning on the police.
Now Brady is stating that he wasn't even there. But lets suppose he was in the middle of this. This could also be a matter of what we see on the field where the guy who retaliates gets the flag. It seems that it is automatically assumed that Brady and his Bunch started this altercation. Regardless of who started it, it still doesn't excuse Brady if he was involved. But it does at least look mor favorably to his reputation(even if not that much...but it is still better than how it looks if he is looking to start these types of altercations)
If he was there, it should be easy to prove as the police should have some record of it in their report. Not to mention it should be easy to find out who Brady was with that night and the cops should have their names as well. But the fact that Brady is denying any and all accusations of being in an altercation says a few things to me. I mean...If he was there and was in an altercation...would this be the defense that you would take??? I mean you are a pretty recognizeable guy, so it would be easy for the other side to produce witness after witness to combat that.
Brady does seem to be a bit cocky at times. a little too cocky. But we have also seen a side of him that syas he is truely a good guy. I think he is a bit of both. He is cocky, but I also see that cockiness overplayed by the media. Similar to the autograph session that was blown out of proportion. Outside of this alleged incident, I do not know of anytime that he has not acted n a professional manner.
Given the inconsistancies in the original story, the stance Brady is taking(as well as the Browns), and the fact that the one guy arrested for being physical wasn't even in Brady's group. I have to say I am leaning more in favor of Brady's side of things.
I accept that there might be a bias in that I "want" Brady to be innocent. But I also feel rational enough that I can accept that it is possible the allegations are true. And that my assumtions or deductions of what information has been given to us, just happen to coincide with a result I preferred.
Of course if the allegations turn out to be true in any part, then Brady will have lost a lot of respect from this fan as he would have not only done those deeds, but then lied about it to the team and also to the media.
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What is weird is how people make comments like yours. Who, besides Toad..........hated on Quinn?
Still hating on him, which has nothing to do with his actions as a football player, but his actions in this case.
Sure. Could have been mistaken identity.
It wasn't. Quote:
"At no time that night was I involved in a verbal or physical altercation, nor did I have any interaction with the police," Quinn said in the statement. "I want to be clear that I did not engage in any of the alleged conduct, nor did I make inappropriate comments to anyone.
"Any allegations to the contrary are either untrue or the result of misidentification."
However, Columbus police said when they arrived Quinn was arguing with 32-year-old Jason Thompson.
His story doesn't add up. He's now caught in a bald-faced lie, and if people don't have anything whatsoever to hide, they don't resort to a lie.
I don't care if he's the QB for the Browns or a beggar on the street corner. If he's in a verbal altercation with a guy in this manner, something is wrong. Had he not lied about it, I'd have been inclined to believe he could have been a victim of a deranged Bengals fan. But he lied. That means something was said that he wants to deny.
The only way this goes away in my eyes is with time or an apology from Quinn. Actually, you can add a third: If the police are lying.
So, who should I believe? An over-priveledged football player or a police report?
By the way: Clemens is innocent too. He said he didn't do it, so I believe him.
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OMG i was 2-3 blocks down on Park ST....AHH thts hilarious...
So how often do you hang out at Union Cafe Bar
Funny story...i actually tried to find that bar to go there a long time ago..and couldn't find it cuz i was too drunk...then the next day i found out it was a gay bar LOL...phew good thing i never found it..
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Yah thats what i figure..but that one dude was arrested..so maybe they wrote down the incident exactly how it happened and quinns name was in there? most likely not but who knows..
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His story doesn't add up. He's now caught in a bald-faced lie, and if people don't have anything whatsoever to hide, they don't resort to a lie.
We don't know if QUinn is lying Toad,, what we do know is that there are conflicting accounts of the evenings events and actions.,.
Some guy coming from one bar says Quinn was there and made statements. Quinn said he was with his girlfriend and some other couples having dinner and was never involved in any altercation. Notice, he never stated that he WASN'T there.. just that he wasn't involved in any altercation.
Basically.. two people telling different stories of the same event!...
Which one is lying? I'm sure it will get sorted out at some point.. But at this moment, I don't know.
I suppose that those that don't care for Quinn for whatever reason will probably believe the other guy.. Those that hate Gay Men will most likely believe Quinn.. and yet, for either stance, there isn't solid ground to stand on "AT THE MOMENT"...
It will get sorted out in time.... I'm sure of that.
I'm confused Toad, your not prone to making rash statements like this..
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By the way: Clemens is innocent too. He said he didn't do it, so I believe him. I have a bridge in California that's for sale. You interested?  I find it interesting that this took so long to pop up in the news. Makes me think that perhaps there is nothing here that is really interesting. Or worth arguing about. No one knows what actually happened. Quinn was not held. Not arrested. Not even photographed. You telling me no one had a cell phone with a camera to take pictures of this. Must be the only place in America where no one at a bar took a picture of a celebrity while they were doing something wrong. Move along people. Nothing to see here.
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I'm confused Toad, your not prone to making rash statements like this..
Hehehe....Very astute observation there, D. 
Call it what you will, but over the past several months, I've been surrounded by situations that didn't have actual, physical proof, but were clear-cut none-the-less. Clemens is just the latest. We don't know for sure if those bandages and needles have his DNA on it, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to put 1+1+1+1+1 together. There's so much evidence sitting there that it's sickening.
In this case, Quinn stated quite clearly that he had no verbal altercations and didn't talk to the cops (I believe that's the correct quote. Too tired to go dig it up, hehe). Yet the police report said he was arguing with some idiot who got himself arrested, and that they talked to him.
I get really touchy when one type of person, especially someone who's been handed the keys to a great life since the day they were conceived, bags on another person, whether that's blacks, gay's, Croatians, Portugese, or otherwise. If Quinn wasn't there at all and had nothing to do with it at all, he wouldn't be identified by the cops in the report. The ONLY reason you lie is because you're hiding something, and the only thing I can think of that he'd be hiding is the fact he was involved somehow. Now I don't know if he actually said something, if he egged his buddies on, or did virtually nothing at all, but being the star QB of an NFL franchise puts a huge burden on a guy, which involves responsibilities to be an upstanding person. Whatever happened wasn't cool, and he needs to be better than that. He's a priveleged guy who needs to act like an adult.
To this point, I've seen nothing in Quinn that would lead me to believe he's been a bad guy. I'm totally on the fence with him as a person and a QB, though I've liked what little I saw. I'm sure he's guilty as Hell of doing all the nutty stuff we did in college, hehe. I'm also sure he's got a big ego. However, those aren't crimes. That goes with the territory. This situation goes beyond that, and I believe he overstepped his bounds (which is putting it nicely). It's probably a small deal to most, but not to me. I've said my peace, I hope the police report was wrong, and I hope Quinn wasn't involved.
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I'm confused Toad, your not prone to making rash statements like this..
Daman...slowest time of the year for football and this is the biggest story of the day concerning a Browns player.
No physical altercation...I would say Quinn handled himself well.
I really don't see the news value of the story. Had Quinn not been a pro football player, there would be no story.
The media and hate Quinn crowd are taking advantage of the moment, IMO.
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We don't know for sure if those bandages and needles have his DNA on it, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to put 1+1+1+1+1 together.
Wait, there is another side to the Clemens thing,, McNamee may have all these bandages and such that have his DNA on them, but Clements said that he took Various vitamin shots like the B-12 stuff..
Something is fishy there Toad,, why does a trainer hang on to bandages and such?
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"At no time that night was I involved in a verbal or physical altercation, nor did I have any interaction with the police," Quinn said in the statement. "I want to be clear that I did not engage in any of the alleged conduct, nor did I make inappropriate comments to anyone.
"Any allegations to the contrary are either untrue or the result of misidentification."
Now, he's flat out saying that everything is completly untrue or a result of misidentification..
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"I don't believe there were any punches being thrown -- it was more verbal than anything," said Columbus police spokeswoman Amanda Ford.
"When we got there, he was very cooperative and just stopped," Ford said of Quinn's encounter with police. "I think his friends were like, 'Let's get out of here.' "
So it appears that there is something wrong with Quinns statement that he wasn't involved in the altercation,, at least according to the police statement...
Again, there are two sides saying different things... But are they?
Perhaps it's just a Perception by the police (reported third hand by a police spokesperson I might add) that Quinn was in an verbal argument with this guy... But was that the case.. who was doing the yelling,,. was it Quinn or was it the other guy.. was Quinn just standing there listening or was he an active participant?
Nobody is answering that! Why? You can be sure that someone knows,, and it's probably the police officers that were on the actual scene. But thus far, they aren't saying anything..
Again Toad,, what I see is that there are two differing stories. And I can punch holes in either one. To me, this means we DON'T have the whole story yet,.,
Jumping to conclusions in this case is like those that though RAC should be fired after the first pittsburgh game.. Knee jerk reactions..
Let it play out.. maybe Quinns a liar.. But I'm betting he isn't.. and here's why!
Brady Quinn is a smart kid.. Brady Quinn has a bright future in front of him.. He's wise enough to know that if he actually did the things he's being accused of, it's gonna come out.. there isn't any question about it, it's gonna come out..
And if Quinn isn't smart enough to figure it out, his Agent, and the Browns staff are.. The are NOT gonna let him lie about it...
They would most probably spin in it somehow, but they aren't stupid enough to let him flat out lie.. Remember this one: (I did not have sexual relations with that woman" a world class lie if I ever heard one..
Well, I think that Quinn, his agent and the Browns are smarter than Clinton.. (my dog is smarter than clinton so we aren't exactly talking about a major revelation here)
SO, what am I saying... I'm sayhing that you may be right,, But I haven't seen anything concrete yet,.... I'll wait to pass judgement!
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I don't know how much truth there is to that, but to me the most obvious reason is Graphical Emoticon... from there it would be a simple play on words with gremlin.
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Daman this is all i could find from the police reports. No names but everything else adds up to the story,
Case # 080000868 Title Disorderly Conduct
Report # 080000868.1 Subject 712 - Disorderly Conduct
Location 790 N High St
City Columbus Zone 4
Precinct 1 District 10
Occurred 1/1/2008 2:41:00 AM Between N/A
Report Date 1/1/2008 2:57:33 AM
Reported By Officer SLOMOVITZ Badge N/A
Report Narrative OFF. SLOMOVITZ ARRIVED ON SCENE TO A FIGHT AT THE LISTED LOCATION. OFF. SLOMOVITZ CLEARED THE SCENE AND THE PROBLEM LEFT. WHILE GETTING BACK INTO THE VEHICLE OFF. SLOMOVITZ WAS INFORMED THAT ANOTHER FIGHT BROKE OUT RIGHT OUTSIDE THE LISTED LOCATION. OFF. SLOMOVITZ APPROACHED THE GROUP TO BREAK IT UP. EVERYONE WENT THERE SEPERATE WAYS BUT THE ARRESTEE. THE ARRESTEE WAS TOLD BY OFF. SLOMOVITZ TO BACK OFF AND TO START WALKING AWAY. THE ARRESTEE REFUSED TO COMPLIED AND CONTINUED IN AN AGRESSIVE MANNER TOWARD OFF. SLOMOVITZ. THE ARRESTEE THEN BECAME EXTREMELY COMBATIVE AND TRIED TO WALK THROUGH OFF. SLOMOVITZ. OFF. SLOMOVITZ MOVED THE ARRESTEE BACKWARD AWAY FROM THE CROWD. THE ARRESTEE TRIED TO HOLD HIS GROUND BY APPLING PRESSURE AGAINST OFF. SLOMOVITZ. THE ARRESTEE WAS THEN PLACED IN HANDCUFFS AND ARREST FOR DISORDERLY CONDUCT.
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One of the gay guys prolly came up to him and hit on him or something so he called him a fag.
Whoop de doo..
Why do some people keep bringing this up as a potential reason and excuse? I'm sure one of the guys from the bar is going to go up to a group of rowdy jocks and try to hit on them.
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Since when did this board become full of " SAINTS " ?
My thoughts exactly.
What are those Brady Bashers gonna do when he marches the Browns to the Super Bowl? They're gonna say..."WE LOVE YOU BRADY!" and conveniently forget everything bad they said about him. Typical.
Please show me where all this Brady bashing is on this thread. Oh yeah, one or two people in this whole thread. Why do so many of you make things up to make your point? It's ridiculous.
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One of the gay guys prolly came up to him and hit on him or something so he called him a fag.
Whoop de doo..
Why do some people keep bringing this up as a potential reason and excuse? I'm sure one of the guys from the bar is going to go up to a group of rowdy jocks and try to hit on them.
Are you saying that doesn't happen?
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I'm saying there is NOTHING in this story that even remotely implicates it. I do think it's a certain type of person who always brings this up as an excuse for people behaving badly when it comes to a gay person. You figure that out. 
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