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Cleveland Browns remain hopeful they can sign QB Anderson
Posted by Mary Kay Cabot, Plain Dealer reporter February 22, 2008 16:54PM

INDIANAPOLIS -- Browns general manager Phil Savage spoke at the NFL Combine this afternoon and said that although he remains optimistic and hopeful that the Browns can sign quarterback Derek Anderson to a three-year contract, he's also prepared for Anderson to hit the restricted free agent market.

"We could still put the tender on him and continue to talk," said Savage.

Savage said that although he's optimistic, Anderson's agents might say they're pessimistic a deal can be reached before the Browns must tender Anderson as a restricted free agent by 4 p.m. Feb. 28.

Savage said the Browns have alternative plans if they don't sign Anderson and that they have other improvements to make to the team in the event he signs elsewhere.

But he stressed it's still his goal to get Anderson locked up before other teams have a crack at him.

In other Browns news:

* Tight end Kellen Winslow underwent a scope on his right knee, but should be fine for the off-season program.

* Savage made it sound as though Orpheus Roye, who's still under contract, might not be back.

* The Browns will probably tender their other restricted free agents, such as Daven Holly and Simon Fraser, before next week.

Browns QB seeks six-year contract

Anderson talks stalled as GM Savage prefers deal for just three years

By Marla Ridenour
Beacon Journal sportswriter

Published on Saturday, Feb 23, 2008

INDIANAPOLIS: In a perfect world, the Browns will sign quarterback Derek Anderson to a multiyear contract before Thursday.

But General Manager Phil Savage knows nirvana is as rare in Cleveland as a sports championship. So he is prepared to offer Anderson the highest tender of $2.562 million for 2008, with hopes of continuing to negotiate.

Anderson becomes a restricted free agent at 12:01 a.m. Friday. A tender offer must be extended by 4 p.m. Thursday.

The state of the talks could change rapidly, but Savage didn't exude positive vibes when he met the media Friday at the NFL Scouting Combine. He said the Browns are offering Anderson a three-year deal, while Anderson's agent, Mark Humenik, is looking for six years.

''Our preference is to get it done before the free-agency period begins. But at this point I'm not sure that's going to happen one way or the other,'' Savage said.

''I'm on the optimistic side of things. They may say they're more pessimistic because any time you're working on something like this, people are going to be on opposite sides of the fence. But for the most part, I think we've made some progress.''

Asked whether it had been an either-or scenario of three or six years, Savage said: ''That seems to be kind of where the talks have been for the most part. You guys can do your research and know the reasons for that.''

The longer demand indicates Anderson's side is seeking the type of deal the Dallas Cowboys gave Tony Romo. After starting for about 11/2 seasons, Romo signed a six-year, $67 million contract with an $11.5 million signing bonus and $38 million guaranteed over the first three years.

Last season, the Atlanta Falcons gave quarterback Matt Schaub the highest tender, then traded him to Houston. The Texans signed Schaub for $48 million over six years with a $7 million bonus.

''There are some quarterbacks out there in recent history that got six-year deals, and we're trying to do something a little bit unique,'' Savage said. ''Because of the makeup of our team, we feel like a three-year agreement is one that would work for both sides because Derek is 24 years old. He could play three years and then potentially hit free agency again, where the money could be $70 or $80 million.''

The Browns don't seem to be willing to make a mega-commitment to Anderson, who went 10-5 in his first year as a starter.

In 2007, Anderson threw 29 touchdown passes, one shy of Brian Sipe's single-season mark, with 19 interceptions. After a three-touchdown, no-pick day in a loss at Pittsburgh on Nov. 11, however, he totaled nine touchdowns and 10 interceptions in the last seven games.

With Cleveland needing only to win at Cincinnati on Dec. 23 to clinch a playoff berth, he tied his career high with four interceptions, two on back-to-back passes in the second quarter as the Bengals took a 19-0 lead and prevailed 19-14.

While Savage could have been using the news conference to pressure the Anderson camp, he seems to be preparing his contingency plan.

''We can still put the tender on him and continue to talk if that's something they want to do,'' he said. ''I think that they would. We've obviously got alternatives planned for a lot of different things.''

Those alternatives would include finding a No. 2 quarterback behind Brady Quinn, who played only one series in his rookie season. If Cleveland extends the highest tender to Anderson, the team could match any offers he would receive and would be compensated with first- and third-round picks if the Browns let him go.

The Browns gave up their first-round pick in the April 26 draft in a trade with Dallas to land Quinn. Their offseason priority is to upgrade the defense's front seven.

Savage implied there is more money available for Anderson now than there will be next weekend, when free agents start to visit.

''We have some improvements to make to our team, depending on what players are available,'' he said. ''Obviously, the budget can change.''

Coach Romeo Crennel said it was important to get the Anderson deal done. ''It's not as important if we didn't have a Brady Quinn-type in house,'' Crennel said. ''But I think it's important because the guy did win 10 games for us, he was productive and to maintain continuity.''

As long as Quinn doesn't reach his incentives, he's costing the Browns $2 million a year. Because he was taken 22nd overall, Crennel thinks he and Savage could sell owner Randy Lerner on waiting another year to decide Quinn's fate.

''It probably makes it easier for the owner to say, 'OK, if he has to sit on the bench for a second year, we'll let him sit,' '' Crennel said. ''If he had been the third pick in the draft, pressures would have been tougher.''

Marla Ridenour can be reached at [Email]mridenour@thebeaconjournal.com.[/Email] Read her Browns blog at http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/browns/.

In terms of signing DA, this is the first time where Savage's message has been a bit negative. I'm hoping they can get it done because I think that is what is best for the Browns.

I gotta say this and I completely understand that 99.5% of you wo}'t agree. However, when thinking about the QB situation and our defensive situation.........it screams: Damn, I wish we wouldn't have traded for Brady Quinn.

We would have had the 36th pick in last year's draft and a first rounder this year. Those two choices could have provided much-needed defensive help and we would be able to make a real commitment to DA. I think we would be much further ahead.


Now.............I understand that 99.5% of you loved the trade and want to send DA packing for draft picks. I got it. I thought the BQ move was a huge gamble at the time....before DA's very good year........and now making that trade looks even worse to me.

We can't change history though, so I still hope we can keep both guys for a few years. But if DA goes to another team, continues to improve, and becomes a legit franchise QB..........and BQ struggles............our franchise is going to be set back quite a distance.

And guys........the success rate of QBs chosen late in round one is putrid.

This is what many of us expected to happen .. Agent wants a Romo contract and Savage isn't going to bite , period. Now can we talk about what we really NEED in the FA. and draft

I think this will prove to be a problem.

Crennel said Quinn will become a great quarterback in the NFL and “for the Browns” at some point.

Article: http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs/con...winds_blow.html

Another QB controversy in Cleveland. Brilliant!!!

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I gotta say this and I completely understand that 99.5% of you won't agree. However, when thinking about the QB situation and our defensive situation.........it screams: Damn, I wish we wouldn't have traded for Brady Quinn.

We would have had the 36th pick in last year's draft and a first rounder this year. Those two choices could have provided much-needed defensive help and we would be able to make a real commitment to DA. I think we would be much further ahead.

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Hindsight dude...There was NO WAY we coulda seen what was gonna transpire...

We HAD to have a QB...

I have absolutely NO DOUBT that Thursday Anderson gets slapped with the Tender...

It makes zero sense for us to give him a 6 year deal...It also makes zero sense to sign him to a 3 year deal and having to UP the Signing Bonus money significantly...

IMO Anderson will either be here on a One Year Tender Contract or GONE via the RFA Offer Sheet we do not match...

At which time any Controversy will have been nipped in the ass...

We just aren't signing this kid to a 5 or 6 year deal...FORGET IT....

Well this kinda spells it out.
Savage has drawn the proverbial line in the sand.
Romeo backs this line up.
Learner is letting them do their jobs, while letting them know he will not let this draw out.


Phil is playing this exactly as he should.
He wants DA back, DA will be the starter for one more year.
BQ will have to throw out the knockout blow in training camp to unseat him.
If DA faulters during the season BQ replaces him.
Phil is only willing to make a mid range commitment to DA.
DA's agents want a long range commitment.

The PS budge factor is minimal, he's more than willing to let DA walk as long as there is a team out there willing to pay the price.
He knows that there isn't going to be a team out there willing to pay Romo money and give up a 1 and 3.

When FA opens DA's agents will find this out.
Then they might be more willing to take the offer.
It would be very risky to play out the restricted offer in hopes of a great season and a big payday as an unrestricted.

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Hindsight dude...There was NO WAY we coulda seen what was gonna transpire...

We HAD to have a QB...

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Dude.........I didn't really like the trade at the time. I just thought it was too risky. The reason? I wasn't sold on BQ. I thought he had inflated numbers at ND. He put up huge numbers against the weak teams. He struggled big time against the top teams. His accuracy problems bothered me and there were concerns about his leadership. You would hear things like his teammates thought he was an arrogant jerk.

I thought this team had too many needs to be trading away draft picks for BQ, who was passed over by several teams that also had a real need for a QB.

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We just aren't signing this kid to a 5 or 6 year deal...FORGET IT....

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Never said we were. Where did you get that from? I have maintained that I wanted DA here on a 3 year deal.

My point is this----------if we don't make that risky trade for BQ.....we then can sign DA to a longer contract and we wouldn't have this controversy to begin with. And I really doubt if we would have made that trade if it wouldn't have been for Junior. Put that into your pipe and smoke it.

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My point is this----------if we don't make that risky trade for BQ.....we then can sign DA to a longer contract and we wouldn't have this controversy to begin with. And I really doubt if we would have made that trade if it wouldn't have been for Junior.

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But we did. (um, they did)

It's a done deal.
Water under the bridge.

It's that pesky hindsight thing again........

since there was more to the stories than BQ and DA...

It was interesting that it sounded like Roye would not be back,but Fraser might be tendered. I thought it might be the other way around. I'm in favor of bringing back Holly as a dime back. Good depth signing. The other statement about finding a #2 QB behind Quinn I found to be interesting too. After reading these two articles I'm left with the impression that Phil would be willing to trade Anderson. Maybe the writers want the reader to get that impression? Things could get real interesting in a few days. I'm excited

A tender and a trade is not out of line to consider......nor even if we do sign him to a long term deal, the concept of a trade is not far-fetched.

Anything can happen..........

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if we don't make that risky trade for BQ.....we then can sign DA to a longer contract and we wouldn't have this controversy to begin with. And I really doubt if we would have made that trade if it wouldn't have been for Junior. Put that into your pipe and smoke it

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IF we don't make that trade...FRYE IS STILL HERE...And Anderson prolly never got a shot...

Stick THAT in YOUR pipe and smoke it...

Oh goody, a QB thread.....

The fact that Phil's tune appears to have changed almost overnight doesn't surprise me at all. I just didn't think that they were as close as he made it seem just yesterday.

Frankly, as I said in another thread, if DA and his agent really think Derek is as good as he appeared to be in the first half of the season there is no reason he'd sign less than a 5 year deal. He'll either get the big bucks that way or wait it out and become an UFA next year and get the big wad of cash then. No need to sign a 3 year deal now.

I've felt all along that we'd (high) tender him. Especially if they think Quinn is the real deal. It just makes sense for the Browns. So both guys will be here this coming year because no one is gonna cough up a first and a third for Anderson. That would be nice, but it ain't gonna happen. JMHO

I can fix this whole Anderson-Quinn controversy...
I'll just buy an Anderson Jersey.

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IF we don't make that trade...FRYE IS STILL HERE...And Anderson prolly never got a shot...

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He never gets his shot?

The thing nobody mentioned is that even if Anderson is tendered he still could be traded for less than a 1st and 3rd.
That is what I expect to happen.
I think he might be traded for a high 2nd and maybe a player or another lower round pick.
Or if a deal with another team can be worked out, sighed to a longer contract and then traded for less than the 1 and 3.
I personally think the Browns are holding all the cards right now on Anderson.
If he is tagged and they put Quinn in to start and Anderson doesn't play this year his value will be zippo.

I wish DA well, but not 6 years worth. He had a solid year given the neglect of QB spot received during the vaunted RAC "mystery starter" competition (which produced zilch) and only gave half reps to all starters, who were marginal at best in their on right. Point is, too much for much too long. DA's agent is pushing Romo type contract for an unproven commodity, especially in light of the end of year play (and I am disallowing the Pro Bowl as evidence, which also didn't measure up well, though I won't say it stunk). I think his offer is over the top; I also think that Savage is fair, and astonishingly generous. This is too crippling to club; I would prefer two draft picks high in the round; and I do not feel a burning need for a QB who has yet to show improvement in some glaring weaknesses. I do not want to chase the DA rainbow for 6 years as a starter, and I would hope the money gets tied to performance stuff.

j/c...think about this...

If DA ends up tendered and on a one year leash, then BQ absolutely MUST be our starting QB next year.

Again...if DA stays only because of the tender...we darn well better find out if BQ is the real deal or not.

If BQ flops, we can try to sign or franchise DA for '09.

We cannot afford to give DA another "developmental year" while not extending that same opoprtunity to BQ...all because DA is either gone after '08...OR...becomes insanely expensive to keep provided he is here on the tender.

Before responding, PLEASE understand that these commenst are all based on the assunption that DA is here on the tender ONLY. If he signs a contract, we go back to a QB competition. If not, BQ better be the starter for HIS "developmental year II"...whle we still control where DA goes.

Side note = I think PS is trying to sign DA to a reasonable 3 year deal to make him easier to trade.

And here is another factor...You would think by now that RAC , Phil and Chud would have a clue what they have in Quinn. Unfortunately they botched the Frye situation so badly it's not easy to trust their judgement on the readiness of Quinn.

screw anderson if he won't sign a 3 year deal...face the music anderson! a QB drafted in the 1st round by any team will the their starter eventually...u won't be stating for 6 years unless u put up 30TDs each and every year..

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Have to correct u here, sir

1) we would have a 1st this year, correct....additionally we paid last years 3rd and 4th for Quinn not the 2nd...how´s that? Savage wanted E. Wright and he would have been the pick at #36, if we didn´t trade up for Wright...so, yes we coudl have drafted D-help in rounds 3 and 4 but we didnt waste a 2nd rounder effectively

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Let's not start that garbage again. The trade was for this year's first and last year's 36th pick. Period.

As for Wright......no one can be certain that we would have taken him at # 36. I would hope not. Sheesh.


And I wasn't bad-mouthing last year's draft class. I never have. I had a problem w/the BQ trade when it happened. I thought it could turn out real good, but I thought it was a big gamble. As it stands now.........it's turning into an even bigger gamble, because if we let a QB----who threw for almost 3800 yds; 29 TDs, and went 10 and 5 as a starter, while overcoming a porous defense----go, and he plays well elsewhere and BQ falters.........it could get real ugly.

Again, I really do understand that most of you are happy that we may move DA this off-season and turn the team over to BQ. I do get that. I am just saying that I am not comfortable w/this move. And it is my opinion.

I know that some of you think that Savage is being more negative than he has in the past on this issue, but I guess maybe I'm not feeling it.

He's been saying all along that he's optimistic, but that if the deal couldn't get a deal done by the start of FA, he'd High Tender DA and keep working on a contract...

Call me crazy, but isn't that what he's still saying? I mean, maybe different words, but it all sounds the same to me.

It might be that Phils just tired of answering the same questions over and over again.. who knows...

If you all are refering to the general tenor of the article,, then maybe I see it, but you have to think that it's possible that the Writer(s) put the slant on it.. I wouldn't put it past any sports writer to do that..

I think we are in the exact same place we probably were a month ago... just a guess...

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It might be that Phils just tired of answering the same questions over and over again..

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If so he best get used to it...Nature of the beast...

And he's reportedly going to get an EXTENSION as soon as the draft is over...

I can't beleive some folks think the Quinn trade was bad. let's not use this seasons results for that decisions. Frye and DA had not shown they were not better than even Dilfer at this point last year. DA could not beat out Frye, whom most hate now. We had no QB.

If Rookies and there agents weren't so damn greedy and Quinn did not hold out, he very well could have won the starting job last season. ( I hope all rookies learn a lesson ).



As for tendering and trading DA, what about something along the lines of Detroit, who I believe needs a young QB, for Rogers & maybe a 2nd or 3rd?

or Atlanta who also needs a QB, for Hall ( would you take that personality on the team?)

I hope we don't have one. This is the most sane place fans talk about Browns football, but it's here. The fire's already been lit, and won't go out until one QB emerges while the other one is shipped off. That unfortunately is how Browns football is right now, past mistakes are still haunting us.

J/C

I see it like this. I think Savage is making the right decision not giving Anderson 6 years ala Tony Romo money. I personally don't think Tony Romo was worth that money...sure Dallas got homefield, but the guy choked.

When Anderson Choked Against Cinci, that sealed his fate in terms of a LT Contract. Had we gotten into the playoffs and maybe even won 1 playoff game, Anderson would have gotten his 6 year deal. He had the opportunity right in front of him to do and he couldn't get the job done.

I personally would like to have Anderson back here next year, Even though i want Quinn as a starter, Quinn acting like a moron and getting himself in trouble with the law outside of that bar in Columbus makes me question if Quinn is gonna behave himself or not. Has Stardom gone to Quinn's head? he has gotten lots of deals to advertise many sports related things, tv commercials, his contract with the Browns. Everyone knows Quinn is a cocky, arrogant, spoiled little punk. That was the one knock on him, he has an attitude simliar to KW2 before KW2 got hurt. This could bode bad for us

That is the reason i want Anderson here one more year even though i don't see Anderson as our Long Term. If Quinn pulls some bonheaded move and gets himself in trouble or what not we will be in trouble without Anderson.

As i said, even though i don't think Anderson is the LT Solution for our QB position, I am more than willing to give the kid the starting job next year to prove me wrong. If Anderson can win 10 games next year, then you sign him to a 6 year deal and deal Quinn away.

Granted if we can get back into the 1st rd with Anderson or Quinn you have to think hard about it.

I personally would sit on them both. We don't need a 1st rd pick this year as much as the media wants you to think, its all politics. not having a 1st rd this year just helps out Cap situation going forward since we drafted 2 1st rders last year. We can fill our Needs Defensivly in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rds along with 2-3 key FA signings....

This Browns team is on the cusp of being division winners, we don't need very much left to get there...i think we can ride without a 1st rder this year that is jmo

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I wasn't sold on BQ. I thought he had inflated numbers at ND. He put up huge numbers against the weak teams. He struggled big time against the top teams. His accuracy problems bothered me...

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That's what a lot are saying bother them about DA.

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...and there were concerns about his leadership. You would hear things like his teammates thought he was an arrogant jerk.

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Those things you never hear about DA.

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My point is this----------if we don't make that risky trade for BQ.....we then can sign DA to a longer contract and we wouldn't have this controversy to begin with.

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Although true at this point we had a very bad QB situation at draft time. No one expect DA to play well. The FO may have wanted DA to win the QB job over Frye, but if they'd seen any prior evidence of DA playing really well the trade for BQ would never have happened.

Now, for whatever reason, Savage doesn't seem thrilled to give DA a long-term commitment. There can be a multitude of reasons for that which I'll not re-hash here. One of the above articles says Romo played a year-and-a-half before signing his deal. Maybe that's what the Browns want to see from DA; more than one season, tailing off at the end of that, before making a franchise-type commitment to him. Gotta be prudent you know.

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And I really doubt if we would have made that trade if it wouldn't have been for Junior. Put that into your pipe and smoke it.

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I must admit I'd thought about that as well. But for me, my thoughts didn't start regarding that issue until DA played so well half-way through the season.


DA upset the applecart when he played so well early on. It makes one want to see more of that. He continued to show more of the same. I think a lot of fans fail to grasp that we'd have won our share of those games we'd lost had only our defense not been bottom of the barrel. That would have made the cincy game a moot point. We'd have already had the wins by then to have won the division.

DA has his holes. They all do, Tom Brady under pressure for one. But I'm thinking Savage wants to see those holes cleared up through improvement and coaching before laying the big money down. It seems he might be willing to to that in three years if DA improves, but not now.

Personally, I'd like to see both QB's here for the three years as well but I'm doubting that will happen.

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He never gets his shot?

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Probably not. If Frye had still been here one of the other three QB's we had on the roster was going to go and that would've likely been DA. I know Dorsey was not on the roster at the time but it looks obvious now that as soon as we moved one we were bringing him back.

DA may have never gotten his shot with any team had RAC not pulled Frye and Savage traded him two days later. I'm thinking that if Frye did alright in the first game that it would have been DA sent packing in order to bring Dorsey back in that same week.

I agree w/your first post. I don't agree w/your second post.

I think that they would have went w/DA after Frye's miserable game against the Steelers just as they did w/BQ here. I don't think that would have changed. The only difference is that they might not have moved Frye after that game. He would have been relegated to the bench.

NRTU

I very rarely post any comments anymore, just read other peoples opinions and view points, but I wanted to get my .02 in.

Derek Anderson is an average NFL quarterback that has not really shown any improvement in his deficiencies since day one. He misses wide open receivers, he struggles with the short passing game, he continues to throw into double and triple coverage (resulting into high interceptions). These were knocks on him coming out of college and these are the same issues he has struggled with in Baltimore, Cleveland, and yes the ProBowl.

I remember watching him in preseason just absolutely missing guys and yelling outloud "Why the hell is he even on the team?"

Derek got the starting job by default last year. Dilfer was gone, Quinn wasn't in camp on time to pick up the offense, Frye absolutely laid an egg on opening day, and the coaches just don't think Dorsey has enough physical talent to be anything more than an emergency QB.

That being said DA played over his head and padded his stats the first half of the year. The second half he regressed and was the same ol' DA. I have seen it noted on here very few times that he was helped by 2 ProBowl players. Edwards made some extremely athletic and acrobatic catches for some big yards and touchdowns. If it wasn't for Edwards ability to go get the bad passes you can remove those touchdowns and yards from DA's statline. Winslow also helped DA by catching overthrown, underthrown, and balls thrown behind him all season long.

I seem to remember more great plays on the receiving end than I do great passes from DA.

Also we need to consider the improved line. They did an excellent job in keeping the pressure off of DA. As shown time and time again, the QB's in the NFL all have talent and when you keep them standing they can usually pick a defense apart. When DA did start to get pressure against some of the better Dlines he made errors and wrong reads. But that's the name of the game, pressure the QB and force him into errors.

Third, we had a 1,300 yard RB who helped control the clock. Alot of those wins were a direct result of Lewis being able to eat up yards and the clock. It has been a long time since we had a back of his caliber. We had Droughns, but he was a system back and never cracked the starting lineup after we traded him.

Finally, we had the addition of Chud this year who brought with him an offensive style that was a variation of a proven system. He created and exploited mismatches in the defense. This was a far cry from the Offense that we had with Davidson and Carthon. In all fairness though the additions to the line definitely helped the new offensive scheme.

I just feel that DA's numbers and success was more of a product of the people around him and not all because of his own physical and mental talent. I would love to sign DA to a fair contract and have him and Quinn compete every year for the starting job. Every position needs good depth especially the QB position. We don't need a 1st round pick this year. We got the 2008 pick in 2007 and he was able to get a years worth of experience because of it. We can take that money and really go after a high price free agent that has already proven he can play in the NFL. Maybe even use some of the money to appease some of our current players who have been rumbling about not being paid fair market value.

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I think that they would have went w/DA after Frye's miserable game against the Steelers just as they did w/BQ here. I don't think that would have changed.

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That game determined it all.

With Frye's miserable game yes. I agree.

But if Frye had not failed so badly and finished the game it would likely have been him staying and DA gone so they could bring back Dorsey. Dorsey was about to sign with someone, I can't remember who. So Savage moved quickly to rid us of one QB in order to bring Dorsey back. We werrn't going to keep four QB's as evidenced by Dorsey being cut before the season started.

All I'm saying is that if Frye was still here as DnD surmised, (i.e. played well enough vs. the Steelers), then DA was the odd man out. Hense, he never gets his shot.

Frye is the kingpin in this whole thing. If he'd have played well enough to have stayed, BQ would possibly have started sooner for better or worse. Instead of being in the QB situation we're in now we'd have been solidly, for better or worse, entrenched with BQ starting and Frye backing up.

But after Frye left, DA became the kingpin by playing so well. It now makes for a difficult decision as we are not solidly entrenched but once again at odds in a QB controversey of sorts.

You got a lot of ifs in there, big man.

Given what I'm hearing about Anderson still pushing for a long term deal with Romo $ , I just don't see it happening....Savage implied that IF Anderson signed a 3 yr. deal at 24 , he could hit the market in 3yrs. still be young and get paid....So is that to say that Savage believes that Anderson IF he signed the 3yr. offer will be our Starter over that period ?....He must be thinking that because, how is Anderson supposed to produce the #s that he will need to cash in at that point if he is not our Starter ?....Both Anderson & Savage are gambling....Anderson is going to have to continue to prove that he deserves that kind of deal $ & Savage is gambling that other teams won't want to take the risk of paying an unproven QB....All this manuevering leaves Quinn in limbo and his trade value drops due to his lack of playing time to prove his worth....IMHO it's time to sell high on Anderson and let any team willing to part with the Draft picks have him , we should be prepared to start Quinn and add a veteran QB who has had success as his Backup ....