|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,790
Legend
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,790 |
Quote:
DA's agents have HAD WAY LONGER than 10 hours to gauge interest .. WAY WAY LONGER .. if U think they waited last night till midnight to start gauging interest I gotta talk to u about some land I own in the everglades .. or if bridges interest U more I have in NY and one in Frisco that may catch your fancy ...
I guess then the Browns did also. It's being reported now that it is 14 mil in guaranteed. Why would we up it so much if we had no reason to? You think that maybe he figures 14 mil guaranteed is a great deal for a three year contract? If he proves himself this year he would get a huge extentsion. He is comfortable here and is in a good situation to succeed. Another team that may have been willing to give him a good offer would probably suck.
I don't believe for a moment that any team would give us a 1st and 3rd. I also don't think he would have gotten a huge contract. I don't think it's out of the relm of possibility that someone would offer him a very good contract. With Savage saying he would not except anything less then a 1st and 3rd maybe they figured it was better to take the 14 mil guaranteed over the tender, or a reduced offer by us. I'm sure in the weeks to come we will know the truth.
Quote:
that amazing part to me is that U dont understand this ..
Don't worry, you will get use to me not knowing things. 
#gmstrong
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,188
Legend
|
|
OP
Legend
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,188 |
Guys if we could have gotten a 1st even for him he would not have signed our 3 year deal .. NO WAY .. well unless he's a MORON ... if someone was that interested in him he would have gotten a 6 or 7 year deal worth ALOT MORE $$$$ both total and gauranteed ..
SO WHY THE HELL WOULD HE HAVE SIGNED OUR DEAL if someone had showed interest in him ..
the stance your upset about makes no sense .. your upset over sumptin that never was going to happen ....
Good move by DA ... he'd have been a MORON not to take it ... and he got some extra gauranteed and total for being patient ...
Like I said above .... My guess is he got no interest .. if he did there is no doubt he would have had to take a look ... thats a no brainer ...
We were basically negotiationg against ourselves in that it was the 3 year deal or risk losing him for nuttin like the Chargers did Brees 2 years ago .. now we have TOTAL CONTROL over where he goes and we will get sumptin in return after BQ buries him ..
and BTW .. witchever one does end up getting traded .. THERE LOSING VALUE NOW ... but thats OK ... IT IS WHAT IT IS and that was still the best option for us seeing as how we weren't going to get ENOUGH for him now and he could have left next year for nuttin ..
now we can all settle in and wait till the THE MASSACRE BEGINS ...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 59
Practice Squad
|
|
Practice Squad
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 59 |
yes no day one pick in a terribly weak draft..... #1 pick here we come!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 11,849
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 11,849 |
Quote:
Quote:
So instead of replenishing our missing first round pick, we now don't have a SINGLE day one pick. Way to drop the ball Phil. I have a feeling this one is going to hang over our heads for a long, long time.
Don't we still have a 3rd?
yes, but that is now day 2...
To all those disappointed that we don't have a day one pick, why so mad? We KNEW we didn't have a first cuz of Quinn, and then we just improved our d-line with our 2nd round pick.
Only thing the draft can really help us get now is another OLB. If someone is there, that Savage really wants... He will do what it takes to get him. Just like he did with Quinn.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,480
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,480 |
Quote:
Don't we still have a 3rd?
Yeah, i think people are going off the fact that a third is no longer technically a first round pick, because they moved back the draft so rounds 3-7 are on sunday.
~Lyuokdea
~Lyuokdea
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 602
All Pro
|
|
All Pro
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 602 |
While I was definately hoping to get at least a day one pick for DA, I don't see this as a bad deal.
I do not think that this rules BQ out of being our opening day starter. It is rumoured to be a very friendly contract. I honestly don't feel that money will determin our starting QB. All this does is "label" DA as the starter the day camp opens. That's all, nothing more.
It IS NOT a bad thing to have two good QB's on a roster. It seems to be getting to be a anomily in the NFL to have a QB play an entire season without missing a game or two. Having a quality back-up is NOT a bad thing, no matter if it's BQ or DA.
If BQ beats out DA in camp and shines this yr., as alot of us are hoping (and praying) he will. We can STILL trade DA after this coming season. Will we get a 1st and 3rd......NOPE.....but we were not going to get that this yr. either, no matter how hard I was hoping.
Finally, did I want to trade DA and get back in the 1st.......yes, I did.......am I upset by this signing.........no, I am not.
Born and breed with OSU, App. State alumni, but bleed orange and brown.
Go ARMY......Beat Navy!!!!!!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 468
All Pro
|
|
All Pro
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 468 |
So Anderson originally turned down the 3yr. $ 20M / 10M Guaranteed offer....Mr. Savage assumes he's gone because our offer was Not going up or being lengthened....Anderson than realizes that(IMHO as most of us already knew) that no team will pay him the $ he wants so he resigns with us  ....As usual who get screwed in this scenario ?....You guessed it....We do !  ....IF we trade for Williams than our first pick is in Rd. 3....I can't imagine Mr. Savage would allow us to get the short end of the stick....Personally , I would have pulled the offer once Anderson turned down the deal originally , went with Quinn as our QB and spent the $ set aside for Anderson on Free Agents who want to be here as their first choice  ....
The Mammal
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 6,160
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 6,160 |
The Browns control what happens..
And if a team wants him, they're not going to go through the agent..who wants 5- 6 years they'll go through the Browns first..it's why I said his contract is trade friendly.
3years isn't a long term deal.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,744
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,744 |
Ummmm...okay...well we can always trade back into the 2nd round..so who knows 
Go Browns!!![[Linked Image]](http://www.dawgtalkers.net/uploads/BrowniePoints/AndersonSnowPic.jpg)
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 8,767
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 8,767 |
Quote:
Punch: From the PD
Savage said Thursday that the Browns could win with either Quinn or Anderson.
The signing does not preclude the Browns from trading Anderson before the
draft. They are still without a No. 1 pick because they used it last season to
move up to select Quinn
obvioulsly someone (besides me) disagrees with you
Might there be a partner out there who's thinking that whatever the Browns sign him for will be cheaper than what they'd negotiate as an FA with him
and now that a contract has been reached a trade of some sort occur?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 13,882
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 13,882 |
Quote:
Punch: From the PD
Savage said Thursday that the Browns could win with either Quinn or Anderson.
The signing does not preclude the Browns from trading Anderson before the
draft. They are still without a No. 1 pick because they used it last season to
move up to select Quinn
obvioulsly someone (besides me) disagrees with you
While it's "possible" a trade can still happen, why would we do it this way? The signing bonus will hit our cap this year if we trade him. And while we don't know what that is yet, I'm sure it's not 25 cents.
![[Linked Image]](http://www.dawgtalkers.net/uploads/Punchsmack/punch.gif) “...Iguodala to Curry, back to Iguodala, up for the layup! Oh! Blocked by James! LeBron James with the rejection!”
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,188
Legend
|
|
OP
Legend
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,188 |
Quote:
So instead of replenishing our missing first round pick, we now don't have a SINGLE day one pick. Way to drop the ball Phil. I have a feeling this one is going to hang over our heads for a long, long time.
*LOL* .. well if no one wanted to give up a 1st rnd pick (and if someone did dont U think DA's agent would have WAITED FOR THEM TO TRY AND WORK THINGS OUT WITH US ... ) ... how in the hell did Opie drop the ball ...
just because u have placed a DELISIONAL VALUE on DA does not mean hes actually worth it .. your blaming Opie when your visions of grandouer don't pan out ..
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,744
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,744 |
and if the guaranteed is 12-14 million there is no way we trade him...that would be half of our cap space
Go Browns!!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,790
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,790 |
Quote:
ALL THINGS considered its VERY SIMPLE why we signed him ... Oh and we do get to see how the QB situation pans out before making a decision ...
I said before in this thread that we have yet to see sbout this. I think DA will continue to be the starter, but in name only. If Quinn does outshine DA there is no way he doesn't start. Like I have said before we want to win now. With the way the cap is nowadays it doesn't seem to me that it is a bad idea to have two starting quality QBs. We obviously feel he is of starting quality or we would have never resigned him for what we did. Quinn very well might be the better of the two next year but DA would be a very good insurance policy in case something bad happens.
I also don't think DA would have resigned if he didn't think he had a chance to be our QB. I can't imagine anyone would be willing to sit on the bench if they felt they could start somewhere else.
I'm very, very happy with how this played out. I think we are much better off with DA then any draft picks we could have recieved.
#gmstrong
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 602
All Pro
|
|
All Pro
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 602 |
I asked in another thread, last week I think? ..........Didn't short term contract make DA MORE tradeable? I asked because I honestly didn't know. The responses I got were pretty much the exact opposite. By signing DA we have pretty much committed to him THIS YR., it may make him more tradeable NEXT yr. if he doesn't win the job in camp. Will we get as much as we possibly could have got this yr., not likely, but we weren't going to get a 1st and 3rd this yr. anyway. This is not a bad deal for us, but I feel that DA is here now to stay.......at least for this yr.
Born and breed with OSU, App. State alumni, but bleed orange and brown.
Go ARMY......Beat Navy!!!!!!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 8,427
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 8,427 |
Yes, with me it's sort of a mixed bag. I mean, I'm upset that we were not able to pick up a 1st and 3rd for DA, but on the other hand we now have two good QB's on the roster ready to compete.
This really fooled me, I thought DA was gone.
Find what you love and let it kill you.
-Charles Bukowski
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,744
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,744 |
Quote:
..it's why I said his contract is trade friendly.
3years isn't a long term deal.
12-14 million guaranteed is not a trade friendly contract...that is a 12-14 million dollar cap hit...in no way is that trade friendly 
Go Browns!!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 509
All Pro
|
|
All Pro
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 509 |
ANDERSON GETS $24 MILLION OVER THREE Posted by Mike Florio on February 29, 2008, 10:56 a.m. A league source tells us that the full value of the contract to be $24 million over three years, along with the opportunity to earn more via incentives. Per the source, the deal has not yet been signed. The reported guarantee of $14 million is based on bonus money and first-year salary, since as a practical matter Anderson will be paid his full base salary in 2008. As a practical matter, Anderson is likely to receive the full $24 million, given the short length of the deal. Barring a serious injury — or a previously unknown penchant for dog fighting — Anderson will get his money. And then he’ll get another contract in 2011, either from the Browns or someone else. http://beta.profootballtalk.com/2008/02/29/anderson-gets-24-million-over-three/
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 509
All Pro
|
|
All Pro
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 509 |
ANDERSON GETS $24 MILLION OVER THREE Posted by Mike Florio on February 29, 2008, 10:56 a.m. A league source tells us that the full value of the contract to be $24 million over three years, along with the opportunity to earn more via incentives. Per the source, the deal has not yet been signed. The reported guarantee of $14 million is based on bonus money and first-year salary, since as a practical matter Anderson will be paid his full base salary in 2008. As a practical matter, Anderson is likely to receive the full $24 million, given the short length of the deal. Barring a serious injury — or a previously unknown penchant for dog fighting — Anderson will get his money. And then he’ll get another contract in 2011, either from the Browns or someone else. http://beta.profootballtalk.com/2008/02/29/anderson-gets-24-million-over-three/
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 5,109
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 5,109 |
Quote:
Quote:
..it's why I said his contract is trade friendly.
3years isn't a long term deal.
12-14 million guaranteed is not a trade friendly contract...that is a 12-14 million dollar cap hit...in no way is that trade friendly
No it isn't. The cap hit is based off of the signing bonus, not the garaunteed money. We don't know what the signing bonus is, but it is definetley a lot less than 12 mil.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 5,950
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 5,950 |
Draft picks are fun to have, but scarey to use, ya never know what your gonna get, or the type of player your goona pick with one, so for us this year are draft picks something the Club needs or just something us fans what the club to have so we can sit infront of our TV in April.
To me with Phil trading away our # 2 pick this year he understabnds were not gonna get anybody with that pick to yhelp us win in 2008. so with that in mind why do we have to get back into a first day pick...yes there talent but were not gonna give up a A. Davis to some GM and he give us a 2nd or even a third round pick for him....
We dont have to move back into the top 1st or 2nd round, and pay kids coming out of college alot of money for something they havent earned, atleast this way were spending money on a known quanity.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,440
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,440 |
J/k
Diam is right on. How is this a bad thing? It's obvious to me that no team was willing to give up what it would take to sign DA. If they would have then he would have talked to them. He would have made more money from another team if they were willing to make the deal. Us signing him doesn't automatically give him the starting job. Brady will still have a chance to win that.
It seems most are upset because they had some false idea of what DA was worth to other teams. That doesn't make any sense to me. It is what it is.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,188
Legend
|
|
OP
Legend
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,188 |
1. lets wait and see what the contract actually is .. then we'll know more ...
2. IT DOESN'T MATTER what the contract is when your talking about 3 years vs 6 or 7 ... U can make points to try and validate your stance ... but just like Toad when he was trying to say a team would wait to see what happend with the BUMS before going after DA ... IT MAKES NO SENSE ...
A. your comparing 3 years worth of money vs 6 or 7 ... DIFFERENT STRATASHEPRES ...
B. a 6 or 7 year contract at that type of $$ GAURANTEES u are the starter for 2 or 3 years ... PERIOD .. they have made a COMMITMENT TO U ... a 3 year deal does not come CLOSE TO THAT ... the Browns have more than likely told DA he will be the started heading and the job is his to lose ... but DA also knows he will have some stiff comp in BQ and this is going to be a tough ass battle ..
ANOTHERWORDS ...
he would have BEEN GARANTEED being a starter for 2 or 3 years if he walked and had prolly 18 - 22 Mill in gauranteed $$$ as opposed to having around 12 mill gauranteed and a BATTLE for his starting job here in year 1 ...
he also would have had LIMITED CONTROL over where he went .. NOW HE HAS NONE .... well unless theres a no trade clause ... *LOL* ...
Dude if someone was interested in him he would have WAITED TO SEE WHAT HAPPEND ...
Sorry dude .. this kite just won't fly .. IT MAKES NO SENSE ...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,227
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,227 |
Quote:
Quote:
So instead of replenishing our missing first round pick, we now don't have a SINGLE day one pick. Way to drop the ball Phil. I have a feeling this one is going to hang over our heads for a long, long time.
*LOL* .. well if no one wanted to give up a 1st rnd pick (and if someone did dont U think DA's agent would have WAITED FOR THEM TO TRY AND WORK THINGS OUT WITH US ... ) ... how in the hell did Opie drop the ball ...
just because u have placed a DELISIONAL VALUE on DA does not mean hes actually worth it .. your blaming Opie when your visions of grandouer don't pan out ..
I've heard otherwise but whatever you say... so DA isn't worth a first round pick but he IS worth $14m in guaranteed money to us? Oooooook. As much as I wanted a QB controversy for the next three years, I wanted draft picks more... I know... what a crazy thought. 
We're... we're good?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 13,882
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 13,882 |
Quinn is probably saying somewhere, "now I'm done" with the Browns.
Ugh, and like the article said, with all that guaranteed money, he's ours for the next three years.
Bad, bad day for Browns fans. We get stuck with DA, no extra picks coming in (what ever they were going to be), Quinn will be on the bench and the fans will all be booing Anderson after every interception wanting the backup in. Welcome a big QB controversy.
Quinn will never get a fair shot at the starting position. This will be like Grossman and Chicago. No matter how poor DA plays, the coach and GM will stand behind him as the starter. Bad.
Last edited by Punchsmack; 02/29/08 12:09 PM.
“...Iguodala to Curry, back to Iguodala, up for the layup! Oh! Blocked by James! LeBron James with the rejection!”
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,790
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,790 |
Quote:
The Browns control what happens..
And if a team wants him, they're not going to go through the agent..who wants 5- 6 years they'll go through the Browns first..it's why I said his contract is trade friendly.
3years isn't a long term deal.
No, it's not. We should have never offered him a long term deal unless we were sure about him. He does have too many holes in his game at this point to even consider a six year deal from us because we do have Quinn. There are many teams out there that are pretty desperate and might have been willing to take a gamble on a long term contract, but not if it meant two high picks on top of it.
We played this perfectly IMO. We took a gamble, but not a huge one. If he were to stud out we are in good position to wrap him up long term. If we just tendered him this year we could have got nothing for him. If he plays poorly we only are giving up a three year deal and 14 or so mil (not sure what kind of salary he will have). That is not all that much considering where the cap is.
#gmstrong
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 5,109
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 5,109 |
Would you rather have a quarterback controversy between two good quarterbacks or no controversy because we have no good quarterbacks. As far as we know Quinn is the next Ryan Leaf or Peyton Manning. We don't know yet and this is a way of making sure we don't make a mistake. It really isn't that complicated.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,440
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,440 |
Quote:
Quinn is probably saying somewhere, "now I'm done" with the Browns.
Why would he be saying that? Are you trying to say Quinn doesn't think he can beat DA out for the starting job?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 11,849
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 11,849 |
Quote:
Quinn is probably saying somewhere, "now I'm done" with the Browns.
Why? If anything, he is going to step it up even more, and try to show the coaches that he won't make the same mistakes Anderson did by turning over the ball.
Quinn HAS to do this:
Show that he can get rid of the ball and not take sacks, while still making sound decisions.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 7
Rookie
|
|
Rookie
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 7 |
$14 million is too much for a back up quarterback. Most believe Quinn is going to be the QB in Cleveland for years to come. I have read alot that Quinn doesn't have a strong arm. It was strong enough to bounce it off KW's number 80 on his jersey in the end zone on his first ever drive. I think $14 guaranteed was too much. I like DA but I don't want $14 mil tied up in a back up.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 4,984
Hall of Famer
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 4,984 |
Quote:
Oh and we do get to see how the QB situation pans out before making a decision ...
Give that man a prize!!!
This contract was about NOT putting all our QB eggs in one basket. 
Joe Thomas #73
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 602
All Pro
|
|
All Pro
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 602 |
Quote:
Quinn is probably saying somewhere, "now I'm done" with the Browns.
That's just crazy. Quinn should never have expected anything to be handed to him, which it would have been if we had traded DA (which I was kinda hoping, by the way). If he is worth half his salt, what he should be saying is........OK, If I want to be the starting QB for the Browns I am going to have to work even harder than I allready have been. I have to show not only my teammates, but the coaching staff that I am the better QB and the one that is going to lead this team to the promised land.
Saying I am done with the Browns would be foolish and assinine. I don't beleive he is saying that AT ALL.
Born and breed with OSU, App. State alumni, but bleed orange and brown.
Go ARMY......Beat Navy!!!!!!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 8,767
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 8,767 |
Quote:
Quote:
Quinn is probably saying somewhere, "now I'm done" with the Browns.
Why would he be saying that? Are you trying to say Quinn doesn't think he can beat DA out for the starting job?
I'm leaning towards Quinn beating him out.
My concern is another controversey in the making. These guys, and this is just an opinion, were not as close as it seemed last year and if they indeed were, probably won't be this year. Too much ego, too much at stake.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 42,855
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 42,855 |
Quote:
WHAT HIT???????????????????????
We need to see the Signing Bonus....
Guaranteed money in a contract DOES NOT hit your cap if the dude's traded...
FInally, someone gets what I was trying to say on another thread....
Thanks
#GMSTRONG
“Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.”
Daniel Patrick Moynahan
"Alternative facts hurt us all. Think before you blindly believe."
Damanshot
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,188
Legend
|
|
OP
Legend
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 15,188 |
Quote:
Quinn is probably saying somewhere, "now I'm done" with the Browns.
*LOL* .... Dude U know nuttin about BQ ... he could CARE LESS about who is comp is .. BQ was going to WORK HIS ASS OFF weather we re-signed, traded, tendered or gave DA away ...
alot of folks are going to say this is added motivation for BQ and he wil work even harder .. well just like with U they only say that cause they don't know him .. HE'D HAVE WORKED AS HARD AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE EITHER WAY ...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 13,882
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 13,882 |
Quote:
Quote:
Quinn is probably saying somewhere, "now I'm done" with the Browns.
Why would he be saying that? Are you trying to say Quinn doesn't think he can beat DA out for the starting job?
Quinn may think he can beat him, but he might not get a fair chance. Someone in the Front Office wanted DA to stay badly. Quinn is essentially a rookie and fighting behind a guy who went to the Pro Bowl....and just got a "big" extension. There's no way its an equal competition.
The Front Office would look like fools if Quinn beat out DA in the preseason after giving DA all that cash. Face it, DA is our QB.
And we know what he can/can't do.
“...Iguodala to Curry, back to Iguodala, up for the layup! Oh! Blocked by James! LeBron James with the rejection!”
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,790
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,790 |
If he doesn't think he could beat out DA I wouldn't want him here. I don't like people with defeatest attitudes. Quinn very may beat out DA. If he does I will be extremely happy. That can only mean we would be even better on offense, and we woud have a security blanket if something bad happens.
#gmstrong
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 13,882
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 13,882 |
Quote:
J/k
Diam is right on. How is this a bad thing? It's obvious to me that no team was willing to give up what it would take to sign DA.
Then why did we have to sign him to an extension?
“...Iguodala to Curry, back to Iguodala, up for the layup! Oh! Blocked by James! LeBron James with the rejection!”
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 8,767
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 8,767 |
Rich Eisen to talk about it on Dan Patrick radio show right now.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,311
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,311 |
Well, suddenly my mood isn't so chipper. Whatever. As I've said from Day One... I don't care who it is as long as they win!! So DA better play his arse off this season beginning with the first day of training camp or else I am going to be one bitter individual. Again, I wouldn't be surprised if we're stuck here next year and still not sure who our franchise QB is. 
|
|
|
DawgTalkers.net
Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Latest from Opie on DA ...
|
|
![[Linked Image from img87.imageshack.us]](http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/2083/brownsfp2.jpg)
![[Linked Image from i.ibb.co]](https://i.ibb.co/6WV79RV/Browns-Coach-Sig.png)
