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I wonder who the other scheduled visits are?





Maybe Lance Briggs?
Wouldn't that be a hoot.....(if we could afford him)

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I would be surprised if Stallworth weren't signed by the Browns before the weekend was over.



I believe we will sign a linebacker before we sign a WR.




I smell a sig bet!




No need for the sig bet. He could be right, it could be Laboy, but I doubt Stallworth leaves town without a contract.


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lets not forget Vrabel how many TDs did he have?



Maybe we should have Vrabel as our #2




Vrabel had two catches for two TD's. One less than Stallworth.




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Lance Briggs hopefully




Apparently they're looking for less than 8M a year...

Far cry from the 100M deal with 10 a year previously thought...

SIGN HIM....Bye-Bye Davis!!!!!!!!!


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I just saw on KFFL that the Broncos have released Javon Walker....I would consider asking him to visit , Opinions ? ....


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That would be simply amazing if we got Briggs by tonight or overt he weekend, I'd be stunned.

As to the Andra Davis situation, I agree, I would gladly give him up for Briggs with no questions asked whatsoever.

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Seriously?! I thought he was Cutler's Go-to-Guy this past year ... or was that the year before. I dunno, i didn't like the way he handled the Green Bay thing, i'd question his loyalties.


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that was the year before. last year he was hurt and only played in 8 games.

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Why would the Broncos dump Walker? Money? Character? I'd be more interested in him than Stallworth, based on skill alone.

The only FA WRs I'm going to start monitoring are Bryant Johnson and D.J.Hackett. I'd be excited if we picked one of them up. I'm not one bit excited about Stallworth visiting.

http://fantasyfootball.usatoday.com/content/player.asp?sport=NFL&id=2092

Feb. 29, 2008 - 4:34 p.m. ET

The Bears are working to set up a visit with free agent WR Bryant Johnson.

It'd be Johnson's first visit. He could be in Chicago by early next week. It's no surprise that the overrated wideout isn't being highly sought after.

Source: Chicago Sun Times

Feb. 22, 2008 - 1:05 p.m. ET

The Broncos are reportedly considering free agents Bryant Johnson and Bernard Berrian to pair with Brandon Marshall in 2008.

Johnson will come considerably cheaper than Berrian. Randy Moss is also said to be on Denver's radar, though he's not expected to leave Foxborough.

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http://www.kffl.com/player/9445/nfl

Buccaneers | Team expressing interest in Hackett
Fri, 29 Feb 2008 01:19:34 -0800

Jim Flynn and Scott Reynolds, of PewterReport.com, reports the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have expressed interest in free agent WR D.J. Hackett (Seahawks), but they have not yet scheduled a visit.

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I don't think Stallworth is a #2. I think he's #3.




I wouldn't get too hung up on the #2 or #3 designations.

Everybody is a zero or #1 once the ball is released and in the air.


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Walker has some character issues... and with the emergence of Brandon Marshall, he's been kind of left in the dust.

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wow, i'm surprised Denver gave up on Walker without a trade for at least a low round pick. He was a stud in GreenBay until he got unhappy with his contract. He does have some character issues, if he is not the number 1 he is not happy. Denver was going in another direction and he did not like it. Not exactly a team player.

And Johnson- is he really over-rated. I thought he was a bit under the radar and still think he would be an excellent singing. Berrian is the over-rated one.

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Injuries and bad attitude. Plus Brandon Marshall is the real deal. He's a monster.

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I'm not understanding why everybody likes Johnson so much. He was drafted the same year as Boldin and wasn't the man, and he was the top pick. I believe he had injury problem that year too. Fitzgerald gets drafted, and Johnson gets bumped to #3. I'm sorry but that doesn't entice me too much. Maybe he could use a change of scenery. He was a beast in college...but IMO so was William Green. What do I know?

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Free agent LB Clark Haggans is considered a possibility for the Giants at weak-side linebacker, according to the Newark Star-Ledger.

Haggans has been a right outside linebacker in Pittsburgh's 3-4 since 2000. He's a pressure player, so DC Steve Spagnuolo could probably make him work. The Patriots and Browns are also believed to be pursuing Haggans .

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I don't think Stallworth is a #2. I think he's #3.

I'm surprised Stallworth had such a bad year compared to Moss and Welker. He had only 3 TD's in that offense. You know, the most prolific NFL offense in the history of professional football. And he had 46 catches and 3 TD's as the #2 WR? Jabar Gaffney (5) and Ben Watson (6) had 11 TD's combined.

Do you all really think he's a #2?

I say, "Meh".




I can stop reading now.

I told myself I'd read through this until I came to the first person that hit on the reality of the situation.

Last year, Joe J. was our #2, right?

Wrong.

Kellen Winslow was our #2 receiver, and will continue to be in 2008. That means our #2 receiver is actually our #3, and as a #3, Stallworth makes a TON of sense.

Much is available to Winslow because Edwards can stretch the field, and vice-versa. With another burner opposite of Edwards, that opens up even more room for Winslow, and backs the safeties off even more for the running game and the underneath stuff.

As for Stallworth, he could sign and be called a #2 receiver, whereas he probably isn't getting any play as that anywhere else. He'd certainly earn less than most #2 receivers (in relation to some uber-complicated formula that involves yearly inflation versus production of previous seasons blah blah blah, ehhe) but more than most #3 receivers.........and be considered a success if he "only" matches what he did last year or matches Joe Jurevicius numbers (around 40-50 catches).

Keep in mind that this is a guy who's averaging about 700 yards per season while "only" averaging about 11 starts in three of the last four. Those are pretty good numbers, nevermind adding a guy who can still burn with the best of'em.

I also believe it's smart to consider that if he breaks down and can't finish the year, which has been a problem for him at times, Joe Jurevicius can step right in and our offense really wouldn't miss a beat.

My apologies if this has been laid out by someone allready. Considering there are about 20+ pages of information right now, I'd think people would understand


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I just saw on KFFL that the Broncos have released Javon Walker....I would consider asking him to visit , Opinions ? ....


Just say NO to Javon Walker.

Two blown knees, two organizations that he's shown a bad attitude towards, and has subsequently been shown the door (politely or otherwise). He's a selfish player that is in it far more for the money and the fame, and IMHO isn't the kind of guy I'd want in Cleveland.


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If we are considering a headcase WR such as Walker or Stallworth... Why not go for Moss instead? If we are looking for a team cancer, might as well go for the Ghusto...

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Because Stallworth can come at a cheaper price...

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Lost in my sarcasm, you missed my point... Stallworth is Mediocre though and has been hampered with injuries...

We have a serious amount of Jack still left and only a few players out there worth the big$ day... Aside from Briggs, Moss and Faneca, I do not see too many others that are BONIFIED studs that are still available... If we are going to pay for a cancer, might as well be one of the best players at their respective position...

Forgive me for being one of the few that doesn't want any part of him... I will support him IF he becomes a Brown but until that point, I prefer a different option...

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I mentioned Moss early on Friday and no one picked up on it. I figure that if he's winning he's fine as evidenced in his early years in Minnesota and last year in New England.

Since I think we're gonna be on the winning track for at least the next several years and I doubt Moss plays more than 3 more years he'd be worth the dough. Can you imagine the look on opposing DB's faces if we lined up with Edwards, Moss and Winslow?

It won't happen but man, that would be somethin'......


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I mentioned Moss early on Friday and no one picked up on it. I figure that if he's winning he's fine as evidenced in his early years in Minnesota and last year in New England.

Since I think we're gonna be on the winning track for at least the next several years and I doubt Moss plays more than 3 more years he'd be worth the dough. Can you imagine the look on opposing DB's faces if we lined up with Edwards, Moss and Winslow?

It won't happen but man, that would be somethin'......




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They doubted we could sign Steinbach- Phil did

They doubted he would draft Joe Thomas- Phil did

They doubted he had the stones to trade back into the 1st-- He did that too..

NOTHING would surprise me with him...

And yes, with 2 more defensive pickups and a Randy Moss... I would go on record now and say that we SHOULD be the front runners for the AFCN

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J/C I have not been around since the season ended. I don't spend much time in front of the computer right now.

The Browns seem awfully quiet thus far. I am happy DA and JL are back in the fold. But, there has not been a lot of defensive support added at this point and it doesn't look like the Browns will be getting much immediate help through this year's draft.

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J/C I have not been around since the season ended. I don't spend much time in front of the computer right now.

The Browns seem awfully quiet thus far. I am happy DA and JL are back in the fold. But, there has not been a lot of defensive support added at this point and it doesn't look like the Browns will be getting much immediate help through this year's draft.






I look at yesterday as if it was our draft. We just added to starting defensive line players.

I would say that is defensive support.


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Free agent LB Clark Haggans is considered a possibility for the Giants at weak-side linebacker, according to the Newark Star-Ledger.

Haggans has been a right outside linebacker in Pittsburgh's 3-4 since 2000. He's a pressure player, so DC Steve Spagnuolo could probably make him work. The Patriots and Browns are also believed to be pursuing Haggans .

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Don't have a link but have read that Haggans will be in for a visit by Monday.


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The Browns seem awfully quiet thus far. I am happy DA and JL are back in the fold. But, there has not been a lot of defensive support added at this point and it doesn't look like the Browns will be getting much immediate help through this year's draft.





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Aside from Corey Williams, who are the Browns targeting to help the defense? Stallworth would be a decent addition to the offense.


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Shaun Rogers?
Travis LaBoy?
Clark Haggans?

That's a very nice start, don't you think?


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Aside from Corey Williams, who are the Browns targeting to help the defense? Stallworth would be a decent addition to the offense.






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In the last 24 hours we STUD-OUT this Defensive Line...

LB's are coming in...

I get it...I fell for it...Don't yank me like that...


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Johnson is solid. When Fitz or Boldin get injured, the guy steps in and plays well. I'm not saying he is a number one receiver- but we already have one of those. I think it is not to see his potential as a number two receiver (which in this offense is probably the number three option). He is a better option then Berrian. It looks like the browns like Stallworth- i don't know about him- he seems to miss several games a year as well. Looked good in Philli when healthy, got lost in the WR shuffle in NewEngland. I think its important to see a WR signing in FA- i just don't want it to be Berrian.

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Johnson is solid. When Fitz or Boldin get injured, the guy steps in and plays well. I'm not saying he is a number one receiver- but we already have one of those. I think it is not to see his potential as a number two receiver (which in this offense is probably the number three option). He is a better option then Berrian. It looks like the browns like Stallworth- i don't know about him- he seems to miss several games a year as well. Looked good in Philli when healthy, got lost in the WR shuffle in NewEngland. I think its important to see a WR signing in FA- i just don't want it to be Berrian.



I think it's to get hung up on WR who couldn't beat out a WR drafted after him. I'm not saying Johnson couldn't be a good player for us...but he hasn't proven that he can be worthwhile. Stallworth had good years in NO and Philly. Given NE situation and overstocked talent, it was easy for him to get lost. But at least to me, he has a better resume than Johnson. IMO.

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The Browns seem awfully quiet thus far. I am happy DA and JL are back in the fold. But, there has not been a lot of defensive support added at this point and it doesn't look like the Browns will be getting much immediate help through this year's draft.





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Shaun Rogers?
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Clark Haggans?

That's a very nice start, don't you think?





What about Haggans?? Or is that still a rumor that can't be posted??


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How tall is B Johnson?? He doesnt seem that big, with DA as our QB we need TAAAAAAAALLLLLL WRs

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hey, you're the one that said i was for liking Johnson
-all i said is that he would be a solid player.

I don't get cought up in his position in Arizona- Fitz and Boldin are ahead of him. Those are two stud receivers. When he has had the chance, he has contributed. I am looking for a complimentary receiver, i think Johnson is that guy.

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JC: I think the focus on number one and number two and number three is stupid.

Our offense and basically the whole NFL is based on matchups. We've got Braylon and KW2 who present their matchup issues. Big Joe is a big target, good hands and runs a great route. Stallworth presents his own matchup issues, he has speed, can make moves after the catch as well as catch the deep ball. That's where we need to upgrade.

I got no problem with Stallworth on our team. My buddies are Pats fans and they love him. Wish they utilized him more. Don't look at last year's numbers and hate, remember that with that many weapons the ball can only go to so many places. And Gafney and Brady have a real connection, they actually played with eachother before, he runs a fine route, and he's got good hands.

Something said Drew Carter visiting also. That could be interesting too. He always seemed to have talent, this is a team that's going somewhere. Wouldn't be suprised if he played well for us. Anybody to get Tim Carter off the team, that guy sucks. Bryant Johnson would still be my number 1 guy, but Stallworth and Carter could be good as well.


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What about Lito Sheppard? He's apparently on the block now that Philly acquired Samuel and we'd probably like to add another corner.

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